One of the problems that Wikipedia has is accessing information. To write a thorough entry, quite a bit of research must be done. If you don't go to a University that has paid for access, it's often impossible to research a particular field. With open journals, this would assist in writing thoroughly researched articles.
Yep, it was a Sunday! I don't use IRC anymore (life is too busy!), but I appreciate that a good mod might be on the board. I'm sorry that a few bad apples are causing #debian problems:(
... personally, if this happened in Australia I would have taken them to the Fair Trading tribunal and demanded a refund. However, I might have some more time than you do (and you don't live in Australia:P).
Did you want me to put every single active participant on/ignore? Exactly what would the point of that been? No, I just left the channel alone. Haven't been back either. I guess that was the equivalent solution to your/ignore suggestion.
I got told, repeatedly, that I was a troll when I asked for some specific information about CUPS (I forget what I asked now). When I protested, I got told to read the manual about that information - ever tried to read CUPS documentation? It can be extremely difficult! I might note, also, that I had read up on the doco extensively to write that article. Then I got told that debian people didn't deal with CUPS issues - fair enough I suppose, however there was no need to call me a troll to start with and so much for the "niceness" of people there.
I had the same issue! I once went to #debian on freenode, foolishly thinking that Debian people might want to help me double-check my CUPS article on Wikipedia. Instead, I got a lot of abuse, and after watching the channel members abuse some other guy (for who knows what), I decided this wasn't the channel for me and to leave.
That's interesting, because I found the same thing - but not through college. I got much better at writing because I wrote articles on Kuro5hin and submitted them for peer review for voting. I got feedback and my writing style got better and better because of the feedback.
If they are licensing via the GPL, and they are using Linux (which runs on open standards and doesn't play well on proprietary standards), then I very much doubt this. The code will remain open.
Then they would have to justify their methodology, to show how they are worthwhile. They would most definitely remain in business.
There is a method. See the citation guide.
One of the problems that Wikipedia has is accessing information. To write a thorough entry, quite a bit of research must be done. If you don't go to a University that has paid for access, it's often impossible to research a particular field. With open journals, this would assist in writing thoroughly researched articles.
That Open Source Movement article doesn't exist.
Yep, it was a Sunday! I don't use IRC anymore (life is too busy!), but I appreciate that a good mod might be on the board. I'm sorry that a few bad apples are causing #debian problems :(
... personally, if this happened in Australia I would have taken them to the Fair Trading tribunal and demanded a refund. However, I might have some more time than you do (and you don't live in Australia :P).
Did you want me to put every single active participant on /ignore? Exactly what would the point of that been? No, I just left the channel alone. Haven't been back either. I guess that was the equivalent solution to your /ignore suggestion.
...only allow a maximum of 3 windows at one time. Looks like Starter Edition is immune to the GNAA's Last Measure script.
... but did you get your refund? Or an explanation of what happened in the first place?
I've seen it myself! Obviously, others have also.
I got told, repeatedly, that I was a troll when I asked for some specific information about CUPS (I forget what I asked now). When I protested, I got told to read the manual about that information - ever tried to read CUPS documentation? It can be extremely difficult! I might note, also, that I had read up on the doco extensively to write that article. Then I got told that debian people didn't deal with CUPS issues - fair enough I suppose, however there was no need to call me a troll to start with and so much for the "niceness" of people there.
I had the same issue! I once went to #debian on freenode, foolishly thinking that Debian people might want to help me double-check my CUPS article on Wikipedia. Instead, I got a lot of abuse, and after watching the channel members abuse some other guy (for who knows what), I decided this wasn't the channel for me and to leave.
Having seen the quality of University students lately, I think that's been happening for a while now.
That's interesting, because I found the same thing - but not through college. I got much better at writing because I wrote articles on Kuro5hin and submitted them for peer review for voting. I got feedback and my writing style got better and better because of the feedback.
From here, I got even more detailed feedback when I started writing articles for Wikipedia (for instance, see Exploding whale) and when I submitted them to featured article candidates and peer review.
Rip-off merchant.
Lazy bastard.
... John Howard is not really in charge of Telstra either.
We couldn't possibly have that. Cheaper products and better service - how dreadful!
Too funny!
... what bribes?!?
If they are licensing via the GPL, and they are using Linux (which runs on open standards and doesn't play well on proprietary standards), then I very much doubt this. The code will remain open.
I never thought I'd see this. I wonder if Bill Gates will fly in and offer massive discounting for govt depts, like he did for Telstra?
What, there was that much outrage about the whole stupid thing? Surely not...
Nope, just not a regular.
I'm sure I've heard of other BT sites being taken out by other organisations.