It is sad, but I have to agree with you. There was time when Olympics really mattered. Now...they simply don't. Because greed kills any kind of human emotions.
I really doubt that they have ANY legal basis to do that. Ok, they can't show five olympic circles, it is trademarked. But my pick is that Olympics as word is not trademarked. So, I call it bullshit. Trademark your necesary trademarks and get done with it. Any other legal threats is just bullshiting.
I just tired from these doomsayers. Firefox is GAINING and various stats shows that. I just tired also from such "reporting" which easily can be called "I justify my point of view that FF won't gain more than this". Like we have to prove something to each other at any cost.
Get this - Firefox will be here as most popular alternative browser. There will be Opera. And there will be more and more people which will use them. Yes, IE will be still most popular, but not monopoly. So that is ALL what matters to ME and I think to most FF/Opera/Another Alternative Browser users.
Why we just can't avoid articles which causes religious vs. wars, touches sensitive topics without any kind of proof.
If anyone will read this, for example, I have some low non-tech company site, and guess what - 20% of this year traffic comes from Firefox. Yes, it is isolated case, but it still shows that Firefox matters.
In any case to avoid flamewars - I don't believe in total domination of one browser. So I would like to see at least three very good browsers. We have two for now - FF (well, Mozilla counts here too) and Opera. IE still have to grow to be good (not good enough) and I have to see what Microsoft will achieve with new version, however, I remain sceptical so far. Yes, they try new things, but they are *pushed* to do this, so... I just don't like their attitude torwards all this, that's all.
About Firefox - sure, it has lot of things to do right, yet, I believe that they *will* do it. I can't say about Microsoft the same.
I thought of modding this up as Insightful, seriously. This question pops up in my head all the time I hear words 'programming patents'. Seriously, get a grip, companies. 'Maximise on profit'? 'Protect your investment'? For hell what? You have product, you trademark it, copyright it, hell, you can use trademark and copyright laws to protect it.
Apple makes money from selling iPods, period. Why the hell they need patent on it? For look? They already prooved that they can use trademark/copyright laws to shut down any copycat which will come near them. So what's the deal?
I completely second this. Bush and co blew it. I have never said that US shouldn't protect it from the threat - but in in so obious stupid and shortsighted ways that sometimes I ever wondered what Bush administration have really in mind:)
You are really full with "winner writes history", aren't you?
History is not that simple like that. US done NOTHING for some time until it was dragged in war. And please read definition of "War Crime". When you have something wrong, for example, killed civilians, it IS war crime don't matter what side you on.
What was done WAS war crime. It is very moral rights to Japan to say so - altough they attitude is much more favorable than yours - they want nukes off this planet and peace in future. And they believe in that.
It is wonder how IT industry hypes things and technologies - ok, it's mabye for cash in from clients, but hey, let's be honest here.
AJAX is NOTHING particilary new. New is a TREND of creating stylish, clever, user friendly apps in Web. And it is where AJAX comes into play nicely.
I have a PLEASURE (yeah, for apps there is such word too) to use Gmail or Google Maps. Why? Because it is "user friendly, working app". I don't care how beatiful looks NiceMail (big crap which usually points out user's bad taste to big shiny things), I need functionality and elegance.
I thing it is more new trend in thinking. Technology have been there for very long time.
About threating Windows desktop - I don't know. It will change app landscape for sure, giving Web Services and Web based apps second breath. For example, I use Evolution exensivly, but for common crowd Gmail it is what they want. And it works and looks elegant.
It certanly gives food of thought to Microsoft because this time, they have to figure out what people actually wants - not only claiming that "our way is also your way".
I have to second this. Claiming that A-bomb stopped everything is ridiculous - overhyped historical reality. Most of victims was common crowd - I would say that if Germany had done something like this over for example Seatle, US would be claimed it biggest war crime in the history.
Nukes are NOT usable even in modern warfare, PERIOD. It is just useful for someone who sees everything like chess board (not alive people) like military in every country. They don't see people.
I know, i know...emotional rant and all that stuff. But I really can't see how normal human beings can accept this as usable strategy to end war. We can end usage of drugs - kill all junkies and all like that stuff. Go ahead, do it.
What I care more about, that people can't accept that something could begin accidentaly. They can't accept that it is simple random reason why we are here. You know why?
Then we should accept that there can come some random reason which will end our existence.
It is more psihological phenomenal. It is clear that nature is nature - there could be NO reason behind it. And there could be. Why just not accept it and move on with our lifes?
See, Feral, I guess problem is that we all shouting about choices and lack of them.
Emmmm, actually people nowadays HATE choice. And you know why? When they choose for example Windows, they don't blame themselves. No, they assume that computers must have viruses, worms, spam, everything. It should be reinstalled. It is just the way it has to be. It is like looser who made wrong choice and now blames life for it, not himself.
People hate to be embarased. To comfronted with freedom of choice. Because it makes them responsible.
You see, Microsoft gives them wholy one thought - to be with it, forever.
It is actually how fanboyism (for ANY thing) arises.
Interesting, why then those who has gold insist on continuing this big lie about democracy and 'possibilities for everyone'? Does it makes them proud or something?
It is tired argument. You don't OWN a copy of OS X. You own rights as licensee to USE it on your box according to license. Don't like it? Don't use it.
Repeat after me - when you buy Windows or OS X, you don't OWN it. It is quite difference with Linux, where you really own it. (Just to point out differences between EULA and GPL).
I don't get it - Apple's hardware has always been close system as you can get from PC type computer. So of course they can be 'accidentaly' early addopters of Palladium. Don't like it? Choose another vendor.
IBM have been far less destructive to using it's money/power/money sources to drive out competition out of market. Yes, they are no saints, but Microsoft eats and breaths by laws of war.
Hmmmm, trolling and flaming is nothing bad these days, hey, you can get even modded Interesting.
"Default applications" works. It works on mine Gentoo with GNOME 2.10, It have worked on Debian/Ubuntu with GNOME 2.6 and 2.8. And what a heck 'Sourcebase size' have to do with usability of GNOME? There are only few features which have been removed in GNOME 2 series - I even don't remember, if any.
It seems that you haven't used GNOME not at all. "New desktop theme" Cleanlooks is the best in the market for GNOME/GTK and for that reason it will be included in GNOME 2.12. It really pushes Windows XP default theme out of the window.
Cool rendering approach - when someone hypes Windows Vista, they mentions cool new looks, transparent windows, etc. Cairo, which is base for all such features in GNOME/KDE, will be supported in GTK 2.8 and it IS BIG thing.
You are flaming. And honestly, I don't see any point to have you Interesting modding.
That smart people predict what I will do and market their products/services according to it?
I guess I have lot of other things to worry about - some level of privacy what I need, tolerance, etc. But not from this. It is pure paranoa from competition.
I second that. Make alarms only for _IMPORTANT_ things, which you really don't want to miss. Other email, phone, sms - as much as presence as you can get. Because it won't create haos in your communications and you can answer all incoming messages accordingly.
Many people have frequently raised doubts about metrics used in data which says "that and that OS have so much market share". First of all, it is nearly impossible to say it about whole world - as it messures only North America (I guess), second, it mostly uses OEM data as it's main parameter, and third my pick is that it totally ignores Apple/Linux market share. Actually, IMHO, Microsoft is quite happy about such unsertaintity...
This is looks really cool and useful. Both ideas are very welcome. And for those who asks why Linux doesn't have one desktop - this is the reason - Innovation.
I second that. Of course, CEO have to do almost everything to appeal shareholders. And messing with loyal user base won't appeal shareholders when income will start to drop instantly. It is some logic - and some people miss this, thinking companies are some kind of God creatures. They are mortal as everyone else, if they don't stick with the rules.
Something like that I really have in mind. My pick is that open source already has many very motivated advocates, which are not only smart, clever, but also good speaking/writing too. I guess some of them should pick up the stones and start to something with plan. I guess Novell/Mandrake/RedHat/Ubuntu would be very happy to support those guys.
Linux Desktop already is sexy. It has lot of things which can be marketed out of hell:) So let's do it - don't be shy about good product!
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It is sad, but I have to agree with you. There was time when Olympics really mattered. Now...they simply don't. Because greed kills any kind of human emotions.
No, it is actually called abuse of power. I wonder why they insist to call it 'democracy'. So they can claim they really care about us?
I really doubt that they have ANY legal basis to do that. Ok, they can't show five olympic circles, it is trademarked. But my pick is that Olympics as word is not trademarked. So, I call it bullshit.
Trademark your necesary trademarks and get done with it. Any other legal threats is just bullshiting.
Gosh....
I just tired from these doomsayers. Firefox is GAINING and various stats shows that. I just tired also from such "reporting" which easily can be called "I justify my point of view that FF won't gain more than this". Like we have to prove something to each other at any cost.
Get this - Firefox will be here as most popular alternative browser. There will be Opera. And there will be more and more people which will use them. Yes, IE will be still most popular, but not monopoly. So that is ALL what matters to ME and I think to most FF/Opera/Another Alternative Browser users.
Why we just can't avoid articles which causes religious vs. wars, touches sensitive topics without any kind of proof.
Just don't do this.
If anyone will read this, for example, I have some low non-tech company site, and guess what - 20% of this year traffic comes from Firefox. Yes, it is isolated case, but it still shows that Firefox matters.
In any case to avoid flamewars - I don't believe in total domination of one browser. So I would like to see at least three very good browsers. We have two for now - FF (well, Mozilla counts here too) and Opera. IE still have to grow to be good (not good enough) and I have to see what Microsoft will achieve with new version, however, I remain sceptical so far. Yes, they try new things, but they are *pushed* to do this, so... I just don't like their attitude torwards all this, that's all.
About Firefox - sure, it has lot of things to do right, yet, I believe that they *will* do it. I can't say about Microsoft the same.
So, suddenly it makes sense why Apple switched, doesn't it?
:)
Yes, it is funny to see some serious competition in processors field. Finally
I thought of modding this up as Insightful, seriously. This question pops up in my head all the time I hear words 'programming patents'. Seriously, get a grip, companies. 'Maximise on profit'? 'Protect your investment'? For hell what? You have product, you trademark it, copyright it, hell, you can use trademark and copyright laws to protect it.
Apple makes money from selling iPods, period. Why the hell they need patent on it? For look? They already prooved that they can use trademark/copyright laws to shut down any copycat which will come near them. So what's the deal?
I completely second this. Bush and co blew it. I have never said that US shouldn't protect it from the threat - but in in so obious stupid and shortsighted ways that sometimes I ever wondered what Bush administration have really in mind :)
You are really full with "winner writes history", aren't you?
History is not that simple like that. US done NOTHING for some time until it was dragged in war. And please read definition of "War Crime". When you have something wrong, for example, killed civilians, it IS war crime don't matter what side you on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime
What was done WAS war crime. It is very moral rights to Japan to say so - altough they attitude is much more favorable than yours - they want nukes off this planet and peace in future. And they believe in that.
I too.
It is wonder how IT industry hypes things and technologies - ok, it's mabye for cash in from clients, but hey, let's be honest here.
AJAX is NOTHING particilary new. New is a TREND of creating stylish, clever, user friendly apps in Web. And it is where AJAX comes into play nicely.
I have a PLEASURE (yeah, for apps there is such word too) to use Gmail or Google Maps. Why? Because it is "user friendly, working app". I don't care how beatiful looks NiceMail (big crap which usually points out user's bad taste to big shiny things), I need functionality and elegance.
I thing it is more new trend in thinking. Technology have been there for very long time.
About threating Windows desktop - I don't know. It will change app landscape for sure, giving Web Services and Web based apps second breath. For example, I use Evolution exensivly, but for common crowd Gmail it is what they want. And it works and looks elegant.
It certanly gives food of thought to Microsoft because this time, they have to figure out what people actually wants - not only claiming that "our way is also your way".
I have to second this. Claiming that A-bomb stopped everything is ridiculous - overhyped historical reality. Most of victims was common crowd - I would say that if Germany had done something like this over for example Seatle, US would be claimed it biggest war crime in the history.
Nukes are NOT usable even in modern warfare, PERIOD. It is just useful for someone who sees everything like chess board (not alive people) like military in every country. They don't see people.
I know, i know...emotional rant and all that stuff. But I really can't see how normal human beings can accept this as usable strategy to end war. We can end usage of drugs - kill all junkies and all like that stuff. Go ahead, do it.
What I care more about, that people can't accept that something could begin accidentaly. They can't accept that it is simple random reason why we are here. You know why?
Then we should accept that there can come some random reason which will end our existence.
It is more psihological phenomenal. It is clear that nature is nature - there could be NO reason behind it. And there could be. Why just not accept it and move on with our lifes?
See, Feral, I guess problem is that we all shouting about choices and lack of them.
Emmmm, actually people nowadays HATE choice. And you know why? When they choose for example Windows, they don't blame themselves. No, they assume that computers must have viruses, worms, spam, everything. It should be reinstalled. It is just the way it has to be. It is like looser who made wrong choice and now blames life for it, not himself.
People hate to be embarased. To comfronted with freedom of choice. Because it makes them responsible.
You see, Microsoft gives them wholy one thought - to be with it, forever.
It is actually how fanboyism (for ANY thing) arises.
Interesting, why then those who has gold insist on continuing this big lie about democracy and 'possibilities for everyone'? Does it makes them proud or something?
Just curious...
It is tired argument. You don't OWN a copy of OS X. You own rights as licensee to USE it on your box according to license. Don't like it? Don't use it.
Repeat after me - when you buy Windows or OS X, you don't OWN it. It is quite difference with Linux, where you really own it. (Just to point out differences between EULA and GPL).
I don't get it - Apple's hardware has always been close system as you can get from PC type computer. So of course they can be 'accidentaly' early addopters of Palladium. Don't like it? Choose another vendor.
IBM have been far less destructive to using it's money/power/money sources to drive out competition out of market. Yes, they are no saints, but Microsoft eats and breaths by laws of war.
Hmmmm, trolling and flaming is nothing bad these days, hey, you can get even modded Interesting.
"Default applications" works. It works on mine Gentoo with GNOME 2.10, It have worked on Debian/Ubuntu with GNOME 2.6 and 2.8. And what a heck 'Sourcebase size' have to do with usability of GNOME?
There are only few features which have been removed in GNOME 2 series - I even don't remember, if any.
It seems that you haven't used GNOME not at all. "New desktop theme" Cleanlooks is the best in the market for GNOME/GTK and for that reason it will be included in GNOME 2.12. It really pushes Windows XP default theme out of the window.
Cool rendering approach - when someone hypes Windows Vista, they mentions cool new looks, transparent windows, etc. Cairo, which is base for all such features in GNOME/KDE, will be supported in GTK 2.8 and it IS BIG thing.
You are flaming. And honestly, I don't see any point to have you Interesting modding.
Hmmmm, and why I should be afraid of?
That smart people predict what I will do and market their products/services according to it?
I guess I have lot of other things to worry about - some level of privacy what I need, tolerance, etc. But not from this. It is pure paranoa from competition.
I second that. Make alarms only for _IMPORTANT_ things, which you really don't want to miss. Other email, phone, sms - as much as presence as you can get. Because it won't create haos in your communications and you can answer all incoming messages accordingly.
Many people have frequently raised doubts about metrics used in data which says "that and that OS have so much market share". First of all, it is nearly impossible to say it about whole world - as it messures only North America (I guess), second, it mostly uses OEM data as it's main parameter, and third my pick is that it totally ignores Apple/Linux market share.
Actually, IMHO, Microsoft is quite happy about such unsertaintity...
(Disclaimer: I'm GNOME fanboy)
This is looks really cool and useful. Both ideas are very welcome. And for those who asks why Linux doesn't have one desktop - this is the reason - Innovation.
I second that. Of course, CEO have to do almost everything to appeal shareholders. And messing with loyal user base won't appeal shareholders when income will start to drop instantly. It is some logic - and some people miss this, thinking companies are some kind of God creatures. They are mortal as everyone else, if they don't stick with the rules.
Something like that I really have in mind. My pick is that open source already has many very motivated advocates, which are not only smart, clever, but also good speaking/writing too. I guess some of them should pick up the stones and start to something with plan. I guess Novell/Mandrake/RedHat/Ubuntu would be very happy to support those guys.
:) So let's do it - don't be shy about good product!
Linux Desktop already is sexy. It has lot of things which can be marketed out of hell
Which is worse - get a thousand spam emails or get slashdotted. Ohhh, well...I think for now we won't get answer from 419eater.com guys. :)