I'm not. I'm simply pointing out that the original post based its arguments on a lot of "what if..." and "potential sale..." arguments, rather than looking at the fact that a significant portion of people download songs without ever paying a cent. Under that same reasoning, it's easy to play devil's advocate and say "what if there was no piracy, how much more would the RIAA net in the long run? If I compare that number to the 'with piracy' number, is piracy really beneficial?"
It would be similar to MS saying Linux is the worst, but using ideas from Linux in their own products.
Isn't that what often encourages innovative new ideas? Someone doesn't like the way something works, so they build something "similar" that operates under different conditions? Hypocracy, yes, but that's business.
My argument is that, while P2P obviously nets the RIAA some amount of change, it's not that easy to claim that P2P gives them more in their coffers.
Yes, but even if they are monitoring "piracy" as they would inevitably claim, they are profiting from that.
That's flawed logic, at best. By keeping tabs on who is leeching songs, the RIAA is not making a profit, they're simply keeping track of who is taking what. Downloading a song does not equal a sale (Apple's iTunes and similar services excluded), though it should also be pointed out that it may lead to one in certain circumstances. Furthermore, they have to pay for the statistics. I don't see how they're profiting from that.
Because they can use the statistics of piracy to help sell more albums... they'll have a difficult time trying to tell the courts that there is no legitimate use for file-swapping.
Their argument would be more along the lines of "without P2P, there would be no piracy to have to combat in the first place".
You may now begin your "exposure leads to more sales" rant...
If the labels acknowledge a legitimate use for P2P programs, it would undercut their case as well as their zero-tolerance stance.
I'm sure the RIAA will simply put a new spin on it, in a "we're not monitoring demand, we're monitoring privacy" kind of way. A legit use, but one that doesn't support file-sharing.
...a sexual tigress seduces Bond into a Caribbean political crisis, requiring a nighttime scuba-dive into a sunken treasure-wreck, and then a voodoo ceremony that reads like a nightmare acid trip.
Phew! For a moment, I thought I was the only one having this reoccurring dream.
You used to be able to try out entire LPs at the mom 'n pop record store down the street.
Certainly, I never meant to exclude LP-stations. One added benefit of downloading, of course, is that you have the convenience of listening to a particular song/album/artist for an extended period of time, or at a time of your choosing. Case in point: I've downloaded a number of songs that didn't impress me on a first or second listen, but after listening to them a few more times (in other moods), they've grown on me.
According to Reuters, the Association claims an attacker would have to "transmit distinctive data over the air to masquerade as a GSM base station". An attacker would also have to be placed between a caller and a base station to intercept a call, it adds.
So, it's possible to intercept calls by mimicing a base station by placing yourself where a base station could be? Sounds awfully like a game of monkey-in-the-middle to me.
My generalization probably makes this seem more "duh, obvious" than it likely is.
Most folks I talk to are still turned off by the price. While $40/mo for broadband certainly doesn't bankrupt me, it may still not be as attractive as many of the "$15/mo 56K access" deals that compete with it.
I have returned all crippled discs, sans ripping. My beef isn't about my ability to make backups (which is easy to do), but the fact that the discs won't play in perfectly valid hardware. Retaining a copy after returning the original only supports the RIAA's piracy claims. If the music industry wants to pursue their copy-protected agenda, fine. If bands start to suffer from people not buying their music, then maybe they'll speak up and put a little pressure on their contract-makers not to produce the discs.
Ripping-then-returning can't help the cause any. Remember to play fair.
I considered that, but keeping the disc would only send the message that selling these crippled discs is acceptable. My morals may be low, but they surface from time to time.:)
The physical CD itself does not allow it to be read on my Rio Volt CD player...
This is exactly my main source of grief. I've been using my Volt as my main CD player because it handles MP3s. As you have found out, a number of newer CDs don't like it very much.
You're luckier than I was. I contacted EMI Canada about several of their defective discs, only to receive several suggestions to upgrade my CD players and/or operating system. Sorry, no sale there.
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i'm not sure why you're saying the RIAA is right
I'm not. I'm simply pointing out that the original post based its arguments on a lot of "what if..." and "potential sale..." arguments, rather than looking at the fact that a significant portion of people download songs without ever paying a cent. Under that same reasoning, it's easy to play devil's advocate and say "what if there was no piracy, how much more would the RIAA net in the long run? If I compare that number to the 'with piracy' number, is piracy really beneficial?"
It would be similar to MS saying Linux is the worst, but using ideas from Linux in their own products.
Isn't that what often encourages innovative new ideas? Someone doesn't like the way something works, so they build something "similar" that operates under different conditions? Hypocracy, yes, but that's business.
My argument is that, while P2P obviously nets the RIAA some amount of change, it's not that easy to claim that P2P gives them more in their coffers.
Yes, but even if they are monitoring "piracy" as they would inevitably claim, they are profiting from that.
That's flawed logic, at best. By keeping tabs on who is leeching songs, the RIAA is not making a profit, they're simply keeping track of who is taking what. Downloading a song does not equal a sale (Apple's iTunes and similar services excluded), though it should also be pointed out that it may lead to one in certain circumstances. Furthermore, they have to pay for the statistics. I don't see how they're profiting from that.
Because they can use the statistics of piracy to help sell more albums ... they'll have a difficult time trying to tell the courts that there is no legitimate use for file-swapping.
Their argument would be more along the lines of "without P2P, there would be no piracy to have to combat in the first place".
You may now begin your "exposure leads to more sales" rant...
Damn, that's obviously supposed to be "piracy". I need coffee. Or an "edit" button.
If the labels acknowledge a legitimate use for P2P programs, it would undercut their case as well as their zero-tolerance stance.
I'm sure the RIAA will simply put a new spin on it, in a "we're not monitoring demand, we're monitoring privacy" kind of way. A legit use, but one that doesn't support file-sharing.
An RIAA spokesperson said that they expect the piggy-bank to arrive anytime.
As a 12-year old, can she really be prosecuted?
unfortunately, this troll is worthless
I'd say the same about SCO's claims in general.
The SCO lawyers must be foaming at the mouth with glee.
The radio is still free...
Not for long.
261 Major P2P Offenders
So, is that the equivalent of 50 file swappers, downloading really fast?
Great, another opportunity to lose my luggage once I cough up the $20M.
Phew! For a moment, I thought I was the only one having this reoccurring dream.
You used to be able to try out entire LPs at the mom 'n pop record store down the street.
Certainly, I never meant to exclude LP-stations. One added benefit of downloading, of course, is that you have the convenience of listening to a particular song/album/artist for an extended period of time, or at a time of your choosing. Case in point: I've downloaded a number of songs that didn't impress me on a first or second listen, but after listening to them a few more times (in other moods), they've grown on me.
I love alternative music, but lately everything has sounded like Creed, or some crappy form of pop-punk.
Here are some starter sites. I highly recommend checking them out.
New Music Canada
Epitonic
GarageBand
Most people these days are used to the idea of "try before you buy". Take away that ability, and sales will drop.
The people who download without buying would naver have contributed to a sale anyhow. Those that would have bought are being alienated.
Are you following this? No?
Apparently, only slightly better than you follow my humour. And thank you for your comment showing your support.
Sadly, given the major networks' lineups, I'd say that this is likely a feature I'd never use.
57 channels and nothing on...
According to Reuters, the Association claims an attacker would have to "transmit distinctive data over the air to masquerade as a GSM base station". An attacker would also have to be placed between a caller and a base station to intercept a call, it adds.
So, it's possible to intercept calls by mimicing a base station by placing yourself where a base station could be? Sounds awfully like a game of monkey-in-the-middle to me.
My generalization probably makes this seem more "duh, obvious" than it likely is.
Most folks I talk to are still turned off by the price. While $40/mo for broadband certainly doesn't bankrupt me, it may still not be as attractive as many of the "$15/mo 56K access" deals that compete with it.
I have returned all crippled discs, sans ripping. My beef isn't about my ability to make backups (which is easy to do), but the fact that the discs won't play in perfectly valid hardware. Retaining a copy after returning the original only supports the RIAA's piracy claims. If the music industry wants to pursue their copy-protected agenda, fine. If bands start to suffer from people not buying their music, then maybe they'll speak up and put a little pressure on their contract-makers not to produce the discs.
Ripping-then-returning can't help the cause any. Remember to play fair.
I considered that, but keeping the disc would only send the message that selling these crippled discs is acceptable. My morals may be low, but they surface from time to time. :)
The physical CD itself does not allow it to be read on my Rio Volt CD player...
This is exactly my main source of grief. I've been using my Volt as my main CD player because it handles MP3s. As you have found out, a number of newer CDs don't like it very much.
You're luckier than I was. I contacted EMI Canada about several of their defective discs, only to receive several suggestions to upgrade my CD players and/or operating system. Sorry, no sale there.
...you can try to keep abreast with a copy of Total Recall.
(ba dum ching)
Lets be honest - this is getting less and less of an issue. Most people who want a linux box have broadband.
...only it's easier to send faxes with a modem.
One word: PORN!
I don't know about you, but I believe that some things are better not seen blown up 20X.