Are you sure? I run on Ubuntu Feisty. Its in development and every day I do a simple apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade and I get the latest code. It has the latest development kernel, development gnome, and a bunch of other development stuff. AND its going to be released in 6 months of development. Pretty nifty if you ask me.
Maybe the problem is that Windows is too monolithic. Everything is too integrated without proper definition of interfaces between the parts. So you can't update the menu without killing the shell? I don't know. Maybe instead of a tree based code repository they need a package repository with each package having its own small code repository. Then you solidify the interfaces at some point (aka you can't change the interface without the permission of everyone involved and a good reason). Then from that point on each part does its thing and fixes bugs. It works in open source software, Microsoft should take a lesson.
Two things. One, please prove that the Debian patches are of sub-quality. I doubt you will be able to because its simply not true.
Second, the problem Debian is having with it is the fact that they thought they had already dealt with it. A representative of Mozilla already came to them and they thought they had a deal where they could use the name but not the logo and everything would be fine. Now Mozilla is coming along, very close to the release of Etch, and saying that that deal doesn't mean anything and now Debian must change. Thats the hole story.
And saying that Debian is doing a piss-poor job with no proof is really not right at all.
First, I don't see how I'm mocking you at all. I'm just trying to point out that your arguments work in the other direction as well.
As for "God" not being a universally understood concept, I don't think thats entirely true. When you say the word "God" people know what your talking about. Just as when you say the word "1." What I'm getting at is the concept behind the word.
The fact is that a much larger percentage of the people on this planet believe in some form of God. To say that, because they have slightly different definitions of the word, there is no God in the general case is a fallacy. For you, there may be no God, but for me there is a God. Ridiculing people and calling them stupid because they believe differently than you is the root of zelotry and leads only to persecution and evil.
Just to short circuit this discussion, I'm going to plainly state my point. Every belief system requires a set of axioms that cannot be proven from within that system without using circular logic or blind faith. Math and science are no different.
"God" is an axiom, and doesn't need definition, so your attempt at creating a fallacy of relevance fails. You can deny that "God" is what everyone understands it to be, but you're then forcing yourself into a world of non-standard logic and existence.
You skipped a turn, and you still owe us a definition of "1."
A secure version for use on any unix compatible system:
echo "password:hotmail" | md5sum | cut -c1-8
Of course that would be placed into your history file, but my bash is setup so that I just put a space in front and it doesn't get stored. Nifty isn't it?
Actually I would say that many scientists value simplicity. In my
experience, the most simple solutions/answers are usually the right
ones.
Oh, and another thing, a lot of science/liberalism suffers from one
big problem, arrogance. That is why people tend to discount Evolution
and Global Warming. Its never explained properly because people like
you assume that the common person is to stupid(feel free to substitute
"simpleminded") to understand it completely. Its really sad how
embedded arrogance is into the scientific community.
By the way, I'm one of those "simpleminded" people who doesn't believe
that Global Warming is as big a problem as people make it out to be.
Though I do believe in efficiency and responsible use of resources.
But the ends don't justify the means. Let the market take care of
this issue. The main producers of "green house" gasses are
non-renewable resources. So the market will reward those who use less
as those resources become scarce and there for more expensive.
Of the two major parties(the only two with a chance at really affecting things), could you please point me to the one that is not responsible for this? Thank you.
Yeah, thats a common misconception. Ubuntu is not a snapshot of Debian Unstable. Multiverse is a snapshot of packages in Debian Unstable that are not in Universe, Main, or Restricted. Universe contains packages supported by the community, which is encouraged to work closely with Debian. Main and Restricted are both modules that are directly supported by Canonical. These packages are worked on heavily by employees of Canonical and while there is significant collaboration(some would like to see more, but thats a seperate debate) these packages are not just stabalized snapshots. Canonical puts a lot of time into Main and Restricted and you will often see versions of packages(and packages) that are in Ubuntu before they hit Debian. You can see that by the fact that Ubuntu Dapper currently has the prerelease gnome 2.13 while Debian still has 2.12. Please stop spreading this misinformation.
Its called screen. That way when gnome-terminal crashes(does it really crash? I haven't seen it crash in ages) you don't lose any of your terminals. I have two profiles setup in gnome-terminal. The default that starts up screen and NOSCREEN that just gives me bash. I use the NOSCREEN option when I want to start screen on another host. Really, screen is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Ive heard great things about k3b and all the cool things it can do, but just today my boss(who is the one who raves about k3b) was trying to burn a cd on his new laptop with usb cd-rw drive. K3b couldn't do it. It would just choke. Instead I suggested he let nautilus handle it. Draged the file over to the proper window(which was offered to him when he inserted the blank cd-r) and then clicked burn. A few seconds later(small amount of data) the disk was done and burnt perfectly. I doubt the process could have been much simpler. I know it doesn't do everything that k3b does, but I think Gnome(and Ubuntu) are doing all right with the 'Just Works' mentality.
BTW, this is on Ubuntu Breezy, so Gnome 2.12, a few versions back from current and still doing a good job.
As for your cd-player problems, use goobox. Its simple, does a good job as a cdplayer and does the ripping as well in a pretty easy manner. It doesn't do arbitrary media, but I use muine for that cause its so easy to use. Also for video, look into gxine. Takes the xine libs and puts a gnome front end to it that is straigh forward, yet powerful(Yes I am the Master of the Known Universe).
Some of your comments are true(evolution, p2p) but they are being worked on. A good project to study how mail can be done in a small and fast way is tinymail. It uses evolution's backends while being much faster and not using as much memory. Not really ready for production use, its more of a research project from what I can tell.
I have mod points and I was about to mod you into oblivion for that remark. If the goverment doesn't set any standards about how to submit documents how can they ever hope to read those documents. Under your proposed system, I could create my own binary format which is actually created by dding/dev/random to a proper length. I could then submit it claiming it to be my tax return or any other of a myriad of documents. With out some standards of communications there is no communication.
Hydrogen is a better storage mechanism than vegetable oil.
Wrong, the volumetric energy density of hydrogen is far lower than that of biodiesel. That makes biodiesel a far better storage mechanism.
Get hydrogen's energy density(volumetric) to the same order of magnatude, and then youll be right. Until then, it can't be concidered to be a viable energy transport mechanism for vehicles.
One other thing that has been bothering me about hydrogen as a fuel is the fact that it produces water. Isn't water vapor a much greater green house gas than CO2? Does that mean that wide scale use of it would create a greater green house effect?
I think your missing something else. As a rule, B20 can be used in unmodified diesel engines today. Looking at the number of diesel engines in the world today, thats a big deal. Additionally, higher concentraitions of Biodiesel can be used in engines with simple coatings for their injectors. This means to produce new engines, there would be little to no retooling of existing production facilities.
That means that biodiesel does not incur the massive costs of outfiting the world with batteries, electric motors, and solar cells. So if you include those retooling costs and the costs of the material needed to make all that. The efficiency of solar power goes down sharply if you include those facts.
As for the efficiency of diesel engines, its true that they are not really efficient, but if you take those electric motors and add in ultra capacitors and use them to do dynamic breaking and energy recovery(or for that matter use hydrolics to store that energy in larger vehicles). This makes the over all vehicle more efficient. So new vehicles use that plus pure biodiesel, and you have a much greener vehicle that doesn't create as big a problem for production.
So yeah, I think this is a pretty big deal. Combine that with the fact that some of the by-products of biodiesel production are other useful chemicals, biodiesel may be the best hope we(The US where I live) have for relieving relience on foriegn oil. This is also a great thing for the environment as this is a renewable and I'm willing to bet that these crops take in much more CO2 than is expelled by burning the biodiesel that they produce.
As a disclaimer, I'm a Mechanical Engineer working in the area of biodiesel and energy recovery through dynamic breaking.
Well I would say your wrong to say that. Just because there is a new version doesn't mean that the old version had a bunch of major problems that the new one fixed. It could just mean that there is new functionality in the new release. Continuing on your example, Mac OSX is far from perfect, but every new release brings new toys. Such as dashboard and such. The reason you upgrade to 10.4 is not to fix major bugs, its to get new things. Unlike windows where you upgrade to XP from ME because ME is such a mess.
Also, if Microsoft did want to start over from scratch and have an emulation layer they have the Wine project. Its BSD licensed. So if MS was intelegent they would just take that code and improve. Its pretty cool.
Police sobriety check points are perfectly legal for a reason people never think of. Driving in most US states is a privledge that the government grants you. There is no right to drive in the constitution. As such the government may dissallow you from driving on any US road for any whim. In fact in Virginia, simply refusing a sobriety test will get you your license taken away for a year. Also the government generally has a far less burden of proof in traffic cases unless they are giving you jail time. Additionally fines that come from traffic offenses only have to be paid because of a contract you signed to be able to drive on the roads in the first place.
So yes, there is a difference between being stopped at a sobriety check point and being stopped randomly on the street just cause the police officer feels like it.
Still Ubuntu. We run Ubuntu on 50 some servers and with the release of breezy coming soon we have begun discussing porting our environment to breezy. Normally this would be stressful and we would be starting about a month ago, but with Ubuntu, no worries. They will be supporting hoary for atleast the next year, and I believe they will be supporting breezy for 5 years. So, we will be moving forward at our leisure.
IMHO, Ubuntu is perfect for servers. You know the release cycle, you know you have atleast 18 months of support. Its free, but if you want support you can get it. We never even think about it really because its so easy to manage.
The abiword project has a set of command line utilities to convert word documents to various other formats. Its called wv in Ubuntu/Debian. The one you want is called wvHtml.
Back in the 70's they didn't know if it would be laminar or turbulent, so they designed for the worst case. That means that the shuttle is designed for a turbulent flow and more heating. It results in about 2 times the amount of thermal protection than it actually needs.
One of my professors even speculated that this was the reason it too so long to lose a shuttle due to damage to the thermal protection system. Its just been over built.
I know I shouldn't feed the troll that was feeding another troll, but...
Firstly, its NASA, one would think the hardware vendor would make drivers for whatever os they chose...
Secondly, have you used Linux lately? For my desktop, I have not touched a config file. All the hardware in my computer is fully recognized and fully functional. I say for my desktop cause I use Linux at work and the things we make it do could never be done with Microsoft Windows. And, just so you know, I use Ubuntu in both places.
You are wrong wrong wrong. Ubuntu doesn't freeze sid. They work on packages. In fact durring the Hoary dev cycle you could see packages that were in Ubuntu that were no where near in Debian. Ubuntu Main is developed by Ubuntu developers in colaboration with Debian developers. What you are thinking of is the Universe, and even that is becoming less as the Masters of the Universe get up and running.
Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, but they are not mooching off of Debian. Ubuntu is providing value to its users and Debian. If you look at the Debian Gnome 2.10 packages, you see Ubuntu finger prints all over it.
Also Debian is not worsening. Its changing. THe project has become too large for the old, informal ways to work. Debian is evolving and though there are growing pains, its getting better. With the rise of teams and more formalization, Debian is looking healthier and healthier every day. They finally released Sarge, and now it looks as though Etch will be out in a timely manner.
Seriously, Debian isn't sick, its just changing. Ubuntu and Debian also already work very well together. Reference the Gnome 2.10 packages and the upcoming switch of debian to xorg. Both have Ubuntu Developers deeply involved because they are also Debian Developers and as Ubuntu Developers have already gone through it.
What most people are missing is that the every day home user never touches the root dns servers. They use their ISP's dns servers, which for the most part caches the information that the root servers hold.
I forget the timeout on the root entries, but if the US pulled the plug on the root servers, the world would have a few days to replace them. In all honesty, there is nothing from stoping these countries from setting up mirrors of the root servers and using those instead of the actual root servers. Because of the way DNS is designed, this is really a nonissue.
Also, the way I read their "press release" linked above, all Comerce is saying is two things. First, "Its working, if it ain't broke don't fix it." Second, "ICANN really isn't the proper organization to address all the concerns of the internet." I think those are two valid concerns. Often, if you can't find the right solution, doing nothing is the best solution.
In my humble opinion, moving the root dns servers from a single organization's control to another single organization's control is no improvement at all. The DNS root servers need to be DISTRIBUTED. But, I fear that doing that will turn into pissing contests and that will distabalize the internet.
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Are you sure? I run on Ubuntu Feisty. Its in development and every day I do a simple apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade and I get the latest code. It has the latest development kernel, development gnome, and a bunch of other development stuff. AND its going to be released in 6 months of development. Pretty nifty if you ask me.
Maybe the problem is that Windows is too monolithic. Everything is too integrated without proper definition of interfaces between the parts. So you can't update the menu without killing the shell? I don't know. Maybe instead of a tree based code repository they need a package repository with each package having its own small code repository. Then you solidify the interfaces at some point (aka you can't change the interface without the permission of everyone involved and a good reason). Then from that point on each part does its thing and fixes bugs. It works in open source software, Microsoft should take a lesson.
Two things. One, please prove that the Debian patches are of sub-quality. I doubt you will be able to because its simply not true.
Second, the problem Debian is having with it is the fact that they thought they had already dealt with it. A representative of Mozilla already came to them and they thought they had a deal where they could use the name but not the logo and everything would be fine. Now Mozilla is coming along, very close to the release of Etch, and saying that that deal doesn't mean anything and now Debian must change. Thats the hole story.
And saying that Debian is doing a piss-poor job with no proof is really not right at all.
First, I don't see how I'm mocking you at all. I'm just trying to point out that your arguments work in the other direction as well.
As for "God" not being a universally understood concept, I don't think thats entirely true. When you say the word "God" people know what your talking about. Just as when you say the word "1." What I'm getting at is the concept behind the word.
The fact is that a much larger percentage of the people on this planet believe in some form of God. To say that, because they have slightly different definitions of the word, there is no God in the general case is a fallacy. For you, there may be no God, but for me there is a God. Ridiculing people and calling them stupid because they believe differently than you is the root of zelotry and leads only to persecution and evil.
Just to short circuit this discussion, I'm going to plainly state my point. Every belief system requires a set of axioms that cannot be proven from within that system without using circular logic or blind faith. Math and science are no different.
"God" is an axiom, and doesn't need definition, so your attempt at creating a fallacy of relevance fails. You can deny that "God" is what everyone understands it to be, but you're then forcing yourself into a world of non-standard logic and existence.
You skipped a turn, and you still owe us a definition of "1."
Then define "1" without using circular logic or blind faith.
I believe we use celcius to compare room temperature to the IQ of idiots...
A secure version for use on any unix compatible system:
echo "password:hotmail" | md5sum | cut -c1-8
Of course that would be placed into your history file, but my bash is setup so that I just put a space in front and it doesn't get stored. Nifty isn't it?
Actually I would say that many scientists value simplicity. In my experience, the most simple solutions/answers are usually the right ones.
Oh, and another thing, a lot of science/liberalism suffers from one big problem, arrogance. That is why people tend to discount Evolution and Global Warming. Its never explained properly because people like you assume that the common person is to stupid(feel free to substitute "simpleminded") to understand it completely. Its really sad how embedded arrogance is into the scientific community.
By the way, I'm one of those "simpleminded" people who doesn't believe that Global Warming is as big a problem as people make it out to be. Though I do believe in efficiency and responsible use of resources. But the ends don't justify the means. Let the market take care of this issue. The main producers of "green house" gasses are non-renewable resources. So the market will reward those who use less as those resources become scarce and there for more expensive.
Of the two major parties(the only two with a chance at really affecting things), could you please point me to the one that is not responsible for this? Thank you.
You realize you just pissed off a bunch of people in D.C. and Puerto Rico.
Yeah, thats a common misconception. Ubuntu is not a snapshot of Debian Unstable. Multiverse is a snapshot of packages in Debian Unstable that are not in Universe, Main, or Restricted. Universe contains packages supported by the community, which is encouraged to work closely with Debian. Main and Restricted are both modules that are directly supported by Canonical. These packages are worked on heavily by employees of Canonical and while there is significant collaboration(some would like to see more, but thats a seperate debate) these packages are not just stabalized snapshots. Canonical puts a lot of time into Main and Restricted and you will often see versions of packages(and packages) that are in Ubuntu before they hit Debian. You can see that by the fact that Ubuntu Dapper currently has the prerelease gnome 2.13 while Debian still has 2.12. Please stop spreading this misinformation.
Its called screen. That way when gnome-terminal crashes(does it really crash? I haven't seen it crash in ages) you don't lose any of your terminals. I have two profiles setup in gnome-terminal. The default that starts up screen and NOSCREEN that just gives me bash. I use the NOSCREEN option when I want to start screen on another host. Really, screen is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Ive heard great things about k3b and all the cool things it can do, but just today my boss(who is the one who raves about k3b) was trying to burn a cd on his new laptop with usb cd-rw drive. K3b couldn't do it. It would just choke. Instead I suggested he let nautilus handle it. Draged the file over to the proper window(which was offered to him when he inserted the blank cd-r) and then clicked burn. A few seconds later(small amount of data) the disk was done and burnt perfectly. I doubt the process could have been much simpler. I know it doesn't do everything that k3b does, but I think Gnome(and Ubuntu) are doing all right with the 'Just Works' mentality.
BTW, this is on Ubuntu Breezy, so Gnome 2.12, a few versions back from current and still doing a good job.
As for your cd-player problems, use goobox. Its simple, does a good job as a cdplayer and does the ripping as well in a pretty easy manner. It doesn't do arbitrary media, but I use muine for that cause its so easy to use. Also for video, look into gxine. Takes the xine libs and puts a gnome front end to it that is straigh forward, yet powerful(Yes I am the Master of the Known Universe).
Some of your comments are true(evolution, p2p) but they are being worked on. A good project to study how mail can be done in a small and fast way is tinymail. It uses evolution's backends while being much faster and not using as much memory. Not really ready for production use, its more of a research project from what I can tell.
I have mod points and I was about to mod you into oblivion for that remark. If the goverment doesn't set any standards about how to submit documents how can they ever hope to read those documents. Under your proposed system, I could create my own binary format which is actually created by dding /dev/random to a proper length. I could then submit it claiming it to be my tax return or any other of a myriad of documents. With out some standards of communications there is no communication.
Hydrogen is a better storage mechanism than vegetable oil.
Wrong, the volumetric energy density of hydrogen is far lower than that of biodiesel. That makes biodiesel a far better storage mechanism.
Get hydrogen's energy density(volumetric) to the same order of magnatude, and then youll be right. Until then, it can't be concidered to be a viable energy transport mechanism for vehicles.
One other thing that has been bothering me about hydrogen as a fuel is the fact that it produces water. Isn't water vapor a much greater green house gas than CO2? Does that mean that wide scale use of it would create a greater green house effect?
I think your missing something else. As a rule, B20 can be used in unmodified diesel engines today. Looking at the number of diesel engines in the world today, thats a big deal. Additionally, higher concentraitions of Biodiesel can be used in engines with simple coatings for their injectors. This means to produce new engines, there would be little to no retooling of existing production facilities.
That means that biodiesel does not incur the massive costs of outfiting the world with batteries, electric motors, and solar cells. So if you include those retooling costs and the costs of the material needed to make all that. The efficiency of solar power goes down sharply if you include those facts.
As for the efficiency of diesel engines, its true that they are not really efficient, but if you take those electric motors and add in ultra capacitors and use them to do dynamic breaking and energy recovery(or for that matter use hydrolics to store that energy in larger vehicles). This makes the over all vehicle more efficient. So new vehicles use that plus pure biodiesel, and you have a much greener vehicle that doesn't create as big a problem for production.
So yeah, I think this is a pretty big deal. Combine that with the fact that some of the by-products of biodiesel production are other useful chemicals, biodiesel may be the best hope we(The US where I live) have for relieving relience on foriegn oil. This is also a great thing for the environment as this is a renewable and I'm willing to bet that these crops take in much more CO2 than is expelled by burning the biodiesel that they produce.
As a disclaimer, I'm a Mechanical Engineer working in the area of biodiesel and energy recovery through dynamic breaking.
Well I would say your wrong to say that. Just because there is a new version doesn't mean that the old version had a bunch of major problems that the new one fixed. It could just mean that there is new functionality in the new release. Continuing on your example, Mac OSX is far from perfect, but every new release brings new toys. Such as dashboard and such. The reason you upgrade to 10.4 is not to fix major bugs, its to get new things. Unlike windows where you upgrade to XP from ME because ME is such a mess.
Also, if Microsoft did want to start over from scratch and have an emulation layer they have the Wine project. Its BSD licensed. So if MS was intelegent they would just take that code and improve. Its pretty cool.
Police sobriety check points are perfectly legal for a reason people never think of. Driving in most US states is a privledge that the government grants you. There is no right to drive in the constitution. As such the government may dissallow you from driving on any US road for any whim. In fact in Virginia, simply refusing a sobriety test will get you your license taken away for a year. Also the government generally has a far less burden of proof in traffic cases unless they are giving you jail time. Additionally fines that come from traffic offenses only have to be paid because of a contract you signed to be able to drive on the roads in the first place.
So yes, there is a difference between being stopped at a sobriety check point and being stopped randomly on the street just cause the police officer feels like it.
Still Ubuntu. We run Ubuntu on 50 some servers and with the release of breezy coming soon we have begun discussing porting our environment to breezy. Normally this would be stressful and we would be starting about a month ago, but with Ubuntu, no worries. They will be supporting hoary for atleast the next year, and I believe they will be supporting breezy for 5 years. So, we will be moving forward at our leisure.
IMHO, Ubuntu is perfect for servers. You know the release cycle, you know you have atleast 18 months of support. Its free, but if you want support you can get it. We never even think about it really because its so easy to manage.
The abiword project has a set of command line utilities to convert word documents to various other formats. Its called wv in Ubuntu/Debian. The one you want is called wvHtml.
Back in the 70's they didn't know if it would be laminar or turbulent, so they designed for the worst case. That means that the shuttle is designed for a turbulent flow and more heating. It results in about 2 times the amount of thermal protection than it actually needs.
One of my professors even speculated that this was the reason it too so long to lose a shuttle due to damage to the thermal protection system. Its just been over built.
I know I shouldn't feed the troll that was feeding another troll, but...
Firstly, its NASA, one would think the hardware vendor would make drivers for whatever os they chose...
Secondly, have you used Linux lately? For my desktop, I have not touched a config file. All the hardware in my computer is fully recognized and fully functional. I say for my desktop cause I use Linux at work and the things we make it do could never be done with Microsoft Windows. And, just so you know, I use Ubuntu in both places.
You are wrong wrong wrong. Ubuntu doesn't freeze sid. They work on packages. In fact durring the Hoary dev cycle you could see packages that were in Ubuntu that were no where near in Debian. Ubuntu Main is developed by Ubuntu developers in colaboration with Debian developers. What you are thinking of is the Universe, and even that is becoming less as the Masters of the Universe get up and running.
Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, but they are not mooching off of Debian. Ubuntu is providing value to its users and Debian. If you look at the Debian Gnome 2.10 packages, you see Ubuntu finger prints all over it.
Also Debian is not worsening. Its changing. THe project has become too large for the old, informal ways to work. Debian is evolving and though there are growing pains, its getting better. With the rise of teams and more formalization, Debian is looking healthier and healthier every day. They finally released Sarge, and now it looks as though Etch will be out in a timely manner.
Seriously, Debian isn't sick, its just changing. Ubuntu and Debian also already work very well together. Reference the Gnome 2.10 packages and the upcoming switch of debian to xorg. Both have Ubuntu Developers deeply involved because they are also Debian Developers and as Ubuntu Developers have already gone through it.
What most people are missing is that the every day home user never touches the root dns servers. They use their ISP's dns servers, which for the most part caches the information that the root servers hold.
I forget the timeout on the root entries, but if the US pulled the plug on the root servers, the world would have a few days to replace them. In all honesty, there is nothing from stoping these countries from setting up mirrors of the root servers and using those instead of the actual root servers. Because of the way DNS is designed, this is really a nonissue.
Also, the way I read their "press release" linked above, all Comerce is saying is two things. First, "Its working, if it ain't broke don't fix it." Second, "ICANN really isn't the proper organization to address all the concerns of the internet." I think those are two valid concerns. Often, if you can't find the right solution, doing nothing is the best solution.
In my humble opinion, moving the root dns servers from a single organization's control to another single organization's control is no improvement at all. The DNS root servers need to be DISTRIBUTED. But, I fear that doing that will turn into pissing contests and that will distabalize the internet.