It's called GNUstep. And yes, there are applications that build cleanly on both platforms. GNUMail.app, for example. There's also a project called Renaissance that allows you to craft your interface with XML, avoiding even issues with Apple's proprietary.NIB files.
There are also clones of NeXT/Apple's InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder and a host of end user applications. GNUstep builds on Linux and other UNIX systems. The Foundation classes work fine on Windows and there's serious work to perfect the GUI classes on Windows as well.
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...would be complete without links to the Brunching Shuttlecocks' interviews with the planet Pluto?
People read Forbes to help them make strategic decisions about their investment portfolios. You can't invest in people developing software in their free time, ergo it's not important for the Forbes readership.
Think about it this way: you don't hire an exercise trainer to tell you how to fly a plane. If I were you, I'd ignore anything Forbes has to say on technical issues. They're not evil, they just aren't examining things from the same viewpoint we are.
That's OK. It's always revealing to see what the other side thinks, anyway. But after screaming at the TV for a while, you need some relief. You probably have the same response listening to Rush Limbaugh, I suppose. <grin>
Just kidding. I don't know if there are any good moderate or right-leaning TV stations in the US. CNN is pretty good if you just watch the headline loop. Fox is more right-leaning, but they tend to get mired in the sensationalist stuff as well.
Exactly! That's why I cringe when I hear somebody calling them conservative. They do have one or two shows with serious debate. I think Brit Hume is a fine interviewer and I like the panel discussions. But then Shepard Smith comes on and starts sounding like one of those overly dramatic narrators in some '40s radio serial.
And local news is right out, its nothing but sensationalist stuff.
Yep. Although I live in a rural area, so we get stories about a farmer's cows, Black and Gus, getting loose from their pen. Then the other anchor nervously butts in to say, "Um. I think that's 'Black Angus.'" Dead silence. "Oh...Oh, maybe you're right." True story.:-)
There is, of course, always Google News.
Yeah, I find that I'm getting more and more of my information on the web. I still listen to the Hugh Hewitt show (streamed), since he's serious, calm, and collected. And you can often find some good idea-based discussion here, if you filter heavily enough.:-)
The Simple Life had a bigger audience than the interview with President Bush (first one after the capturing of Saddam Hussein) broadcast at the same time.
Wow, that's pretty scary. Our nation has given up on ideas, it seems, to spend their time following fashions and trends. No wonder you never hear Presidential candidates being asked questions about their fundamental philosophical beliefs in debates.
Everyone is more affected when something happens to someone they know, either personally or publically.
I still think it's silly. But even that explanation doesn't deal with the Scott Peterson craze. I don't think hardly anyone knows the man. The immediate family and friends care; the judge, jury, and lawyers need to care; nobody else should even be hearing about it.
In fact, I find it kind of offensive. It's none of our business, and I consider it very bad manners to be prying into the life of someone with whom you aren't intimately acquainted. That's why I so rarely watch TV news, I suppose.
PS> If you think the US media spends too much time covering things *you* don't care about, try the BBC. It's pretty good in my experience.
BBC World Service is too far to the left for my taste, though I enjoy watching the British comedy programs occasionally.
I don't know. But I ask the same question about our American media. Why the hell does our media latch on to stories like the Laci Peterson murder, Kobe Bryant, or Michael Jackson? Plenty of people are murdered or raped every day, but they don't get media coverage. I'm not on the jury, so the details of these cases are completely useless to me. Yet that's about all you can find on major media outlets. For the last time, we don't give a damn about Jackson, Bryant, Peterson, Limbaugh, or anybody else. Just shut up about it already and report some REAL news.
Sorry, no cigar. Any form of centralization in government is the parallel of centralization in economic markets: monopoly. I don't want one source for law any more than I want one source for telephone service or bicycles. In addition to leaving no place of haven, it destroys local culture and control. I don't want people from the other side of the *country* deciding what's best for me; much less do I want people from the other side of the world making decisions. They don't share my cultural or religious beliefs, and they quite possibly don't have my best interests at heart.
I don't know about that. They had great FP performance and I would have been glad to have one to use for realtime audio synthesis and processing or raytracing stuff. And I know a lot of other "non-scientific" hobbyists who would have wanted one too. But alas, DEC didn't want to sell to us, and wouldn't go with some loss leader action.
they continue to pound on an architecture which hasnt been able to scale in a cost effective manner.
Pound on it? As far as I could tell, it seemed more like they were trying to "hide it under a bushel." It looked like they didn't want anybody to know that it existed.
That's pretty much because DEC couldn't market or manage their way out of a brown paper bag, though. I talked to a guy who used to work for them; he told me that the people running the show were complete idiots.
Well if the gubamint would stop taking 30% of my income, and instead let me give it to my state and local governments, you know, those places where I consume the most services, and send my 10% to the Army, Navy and Airforce, things would be a little bit saner, don't you think?
Definitely. But it won't happen because too many important voting blocks depend on social services and pork projects. And don't forget the most important jobs program in the country: bureaucracy.:-)
But I thought you were implying wasting money was a bad thing? Why would we want all that useless crap?
Because defense (along with maintaining law and order) is the PURPOSE of government. Social spending is outside the scope of government, as is almost everything else our government does.
The alert system was put in place when idiots in the mainstream press began screaming about how the government refused to warn anyone about the 9/11 attacks. It's a great example of how stupid questions (or problems) lead to stupid answers (or solutions).
This is true throughout politics. People complain about not having enough benefits or high enough pay, so the government raises the minimum wage or unions lobby for better benefits. The result? Businesses can't afford to pay workers anymore and the jobs move overseas. Then people complain that the jobs are moving overseas.:-)
Then again, people complain about not enough funding for schools. The national legislature steps in and funds schools and--naturally, since they're paying for it--takes some administrative control as well. Then people complain about the national government interfering with local affairs. The list goes on and on.
It's also generally regarded that Microsoft has superior usability/UI.
Windows can't even claim to be the victor in that department. The Windows GUI is a mish-mash of Mac and NeXTSTEP, plus other interfaces, in all likelyhood. It's disunified and irritating to use.
If this new MS team can improve the core to the point where it's as good or better than Linux, then the only reason anyone would use Linux would be cost.
And the fact that it's more UNIX-like. And that the sense of community is stronger. And that you can dig into the guts. Actually, I guess cost isn't the only reason at all.
I'm not a Blender user, so I can't give any personal experience on this. But I've heard people who have used both Blender and other modellers say that while Blender's UI is not intuitive at first, in the long run it's much faster and easier to use than anything else available.
Not only all of that, but in the spirit of UNIX ("Do one thing well"), I think raytracing should remain separate. Pov-Ray was pretty mature last time I looked at it.
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There are also clones of NeXT/Apple's InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder and a host of end user applications. GNUstep builds on Linux and other UNIX systems. The Foundation classes work fine on Windows and there's serious work to perfect the GUI classes on Windows as well.
...would be complete without links to the Brunching Shuttlecocks' interviews with the planet Pluto?
GNUstep isn't a window manager. It's an API (an implementation of OpenStep/Cocoa). But the screenshot doesn't look very NeXT-ish to me anyway.
Think about it this way: you don't hire an exercise trainer to tell you how to fly a plane. If I were you, I'd ignore anything Forbes has to say on technical issues. They're not evil, they just aren't examining things from the same viewpoint we are.
(Ask me how.)
So, umm.....how?
That's OK. It's always revealing to see what the other side thinks, anyway. But after screaming at the TV for a while, you need some relief. You probably have the same response listening to Rush Limbaugh, I suppose. <grin>
Just kidding. I don't know if there are any good moderate or right-leaning TV stations in the US. CNN is pretty good if you just watch the headline loop. Fox is more right-leaning, but they tend to get mired in the sensationalist stuff as well.
Exactly! That's why I cringe when I hear somebody calling them conservative. They do have one or two shows with serious debate. I think Brit Hume is a fine interviewer and I like the panel discussions. But then Shepard Smith comes on and starts sounding like one of those overly dramatic narrators in some '40s radio serial.
And local news is right out, its nothing but sensationalist stuff.
Yep. Although I live in a rural area, so we get stories about a farmer's cows, Black and Gus, getting loose from their pen. Then the other anchor nervously butts in to say, "Um. I think that's 'Black Angus.'" Dead silence. "Oh...Oh, maybe you're right." True story. :-)
There is, of course, always Google News.
Yeah, I find that I'm getting more and more of my information on the web. I still listen to the Hugh Hewitt show (streamed), since he's serious, calm, and collected. And you can often find some good idea-based discussion here, if you filter heavily enough. :-)
He knows much that is hidden.
Wow, that's pretty scary. Our nation has given up on ideas, it seems, to spend their time following fashions and trends. No wonder you never hear Presidential candidates being asked questions about their fundamental philosophical beliefs in debates.
I still think it's silly. But even that explanation doesn't deal with the Scott Peterson craze. I don't think hardly anyone knows the man. The immediate family and friends care; the judge, jury, and lawyers need to care; nobody else should even be hearing about it.
In fact, I find it kind of offensive. It's none of our business, and I consider it very bad manners to be prying into the life of someone with whom you aren't intimately acquainted. That's why I so rarely watch TV news, I suppose.
PS> If you think the US media spends too much time covering things *you* don't care about, try the BBC. It's pretty good in my experience.
BBC World Service is too far to the left for my taste, though I enjoy watching the British comedy programs occasionally.
I don't know. But I ask the same question about our American media. Why the hell does our media latch on to stories like the Laci Peterson murder, Kobe Bryant, or Michael Jackson? Plenty of people are murdered or raped every day, but they don't get media coverage. I'm not on the jury, so the details of these cases are completely useless to me. Yet that's about all you can find on major media outlets. For the last time, we don't give a damn about Jackson, Bryant, Peterson, Limbaugh, or anybody else. Just shut up about it already and report some REAL news.
Sorry, no cigar. Any form of centralization in government is the parallel of centralization in economic markets: monopoly. I don't want one source for law any more than I want one source for telephone service or bicycles. In addition to leaving no place of haven, it destroys local culture and control. I don't want people from the other side of the *country* deciding what's best for me; much less do I want people from the other side of the world making decisions. They don't share my cultural or religious beliefs, and they quite possibly don't have my best interests at heart.
Yeah, but then I wouldn't be able to make useless but mildly humorous posts on Slashdot. And where would I be then?
Sure. William Shatner was the inaugural recipient. It's been a really popular category ever since.
Please for God's sake people, DO NOT CLICK ON THAT LINK! I was barfing for an hour afterword. We have a new rival to goatse.cx here, folks.
I don't know about that. They had great FP performance and I would have been glad to have one to use for realtime audio synthesis and processing or raytracing stuff. And I know a lot of other "non-scientific" hobbyists who would have wanted one too. But alas, DEC didn't want to sell to us, and wouldn't go with some loss leader action.
they continue to pound on an architecture which hasnt been able to scale in a cost effective manner.
Pound on it? As far as I could tell, it seemed more like they were trying to "hide it under a bushel." It looked like they didn't want anybody to know that it existed.
That's pretty much because DEC couldn't market or manage their way out of a brown paper bag, though. I talked to a guy who used to work for them; he told me that the people running the show were complete idiots.
No, you've got it all wrong. You get more funding when things are borked. How else is it going to be fixed? :-)
Well if the gubamint would stop taking 30% of my income, and instead let me give it to my state and local governments, you know, those places where I consume the most services, and send my 10% to the Army, Navy and Airforce, things would be a little bit saner, don't you think?
Definitely. But it won't happen because too many important voting blocks depend on social services and pork projects. And don't forget the most important jobs program in the country: bureaucracy. :-)
Because defense (along with maintaining law and order) is the PURPOSE of government. Social spending is outside the scope of government, as is almost everything else our government does.
This is true throughout politics. People complain about not having enough benefits or high enough pay, so the government raises the minimum wage or unions lobby for better benefits. The result? Businesses can't afford to pay workers anymore and the jobs move overseas. Then people complain that the jobs are moving overseas. :-)
Then again, people complain about not enough funding for schools. The national legislature steps in and funds schools and--naturally, since they're paying for it--takes some administrative control as well. Then people complain about the national government interfering with local affairs. The list goes on and on.
If you're still using UnixWare, you're already in trouble. :-)
Wasn't NeXTSTEP also big in the financial industry for a long time?
Windows can't even claim to be the victor in that department. The Windows GUI is a mish-mash of Mac and NeXTSTEP, plus other interfaces, in all likelyhood. It's disunified and irritating to use.
If this new MS team can improve the core to the point where it's as good or better than Linux, then the only reason anyone would use Linux would be cost.
And the fact that it's more UNIX-like. And that the sense of community is stronger. And that you can dig into the guts. Actually, I guess cost isn't the only reason at all.
I'm not a Blender user, so I can't give any personal experience on this. But I've heard people who have used both Blender and other modellers say that while Blender's UI is not intuitive at first, in the long run it's much faster and easier to use than anything else available.
Not only all of that, but in the spirit of UNIX ("Do one thing well"), I think raytracing should remain separate. Pov-Ray was pretty mature last time I looked at it.