You rarely do. Honestly go read an international paper or something. Seriously... you really think CNN and FOX are going to tell you what a lot of Australians, Britons and Canadians think of your country?
No, I just don't care what they think. It's their job to take care of their governments, it's our job to take care of ours. However interesting the discussion may be, it's insignificant when it comes to making policy decisions.
I believe in the independence of nations. That's why I don't criticize France, Germany, or Russia for their opposition to the Iraqi war. Those governments and the citizens of those nations made a decision that it was in their best interest to oppose the war, and that's fine. It's really none of our business what they do, beyond analyzing it to determine whether it's a threat to us or not.
To be fair, I'd say it's more US foreign policy and general disregard/disdain for the rest of the world that people dislike so much about the US.
Governments are not charged with the task of making other governments "like them." Their task is to defend their citizens.
The "if they disagree with us, well who cares, we'll bomb the crap out of them anyway" attitude.
I wasn't aware that we had bombed France. And we haven't bombed Germany since 1945. We can and should use the following criteria in determining who to "bomb the crap out of":
The bombee is threatening.
The bombee is implacable.
There you go. Don't combine those two things and you're safe.
And Americans wonder why they have such a rotten reputation worldwide...
No, we don't. Quite frankly, we haven't noticed and wouldn't care if we did. I don't know where people are getting that tired old line, but it's pretty much meaningless.
We already have that: C-Span. What we have to face is the sad fact that a statistically low number of people care what politicians do so long as they get their social spending and handouts.
The theory as I understand it is that TC data is only available to TC programs, so allowing freeware to run isn't a security risk since the unsigned code can't access any DRM's data.
But sooner or later, unsigned code *will* be able to access DRM'd data. It's just going to happen. That's why I don't think they'll allow unsigned code to exist at all. But you never know...we might get lucky.
Yeah, but the original poster implied that Jobs had no involvement with technical operations. That was the real point of my post. My opinion of his mental state was just "for free.":-)
Actually, I've heard that when Jobs was at NeXT, he would actually go around and inspect the code being written, and PULL THE PLUG ON THE MACHINE if he didn't like what he saw! What a nutjob!
Modems unfortunately will become nothing more than a tale that we can tell our grandkids about many years from now.
No, our grandkids will know. Because we'll still be hearing that damn sound on every radio and TV ad having *anything* to do with technology for the next millennium.
IF it's backward compatible, yes. But that's not guaranteed. That's what makes this thing so insidious. If they allow ANY unsigned code on it, they've lost whatever benefit they might have gotten, so there's a strong possibility that they won't allow open source or freeware to run on it at all. Only proprietary packages from large corporations with the money and influence to get their binaries signed will run.
I like computers because they're precise: they do exactly what you tell them, and they tell you exactly what they've done. I already have enough things in my life that don't make sense, computers should not be one of them.
It won't. But once TC is in place, recording and movie publishers will start online distribution services, using formats that won't play on anything that allows untrusted code. A lot of people will want to be able to use these services, so Apple may end up caving in to TC.
Absolutely. But Hollywood and the Business Software Alliance don't represent America. I know it's difficult for some people to realize that, but it's true.
If media companies successfully require all Windows Media and RealMedia files to only play on trusted clients, it may not be realistically possible to avoid Treacherous Computing.
...after the FIRST TIME I had to talk to a tech support person from India. Within 30 seconds, I KNEW this wasn't going to last for long. And for all you typical America-bashers, it's not just because we're intolerant of accents. So long as I can communicate reasonably well, accents cause no problem; and I know that most others feel the same way.
The problem comes when: 1) the accent and grasp of language is so poor that communication is nearly impossible; and 2) the quality of the support itself is wretched. My mom's DVD recorder was on the blink a few months ago, so I called tech support. I got a lady from India who: could not be understood; sounded as if she were falling asleep (her phrases kept trailing off, followed by a long silence); and beyond reading me a standard boilerplate text, was absolutely useless in telling me what was wrong.
Now, I'm sure this woman was just trying to make a living, and I have nothing against her. This kind of "support," while inexpensive, is worthless.
But what about programming jobs? The company my dad works for has been farming out programming to India for 2 years now and it's just not working out. The time difference makes communication difficult, the code they get back is buggy and inefficient (even simple SQL stuff), they often completely ignore the requirements (code doesn't do anything like what it's supposed to do), and they have yet to get anything back in a reasonable amount of time. This kind of thing can't keep going, folks.
I was just in a fender-bender with a lady down the street. Nothing serious. Afterword, she was laughing and telling me it was OK, accidents happen, don't worry about it, she was fine, etc. I've since seen her out doing yardwork and so on. The insurance company called. She's suing for injuries. It's a load of BS.
I thought the DMCA and it's copycats in other countries were actually because of UN/WIPO treaties to "harmonize" and strengthen IP protections world-wide.
Yes, that's what happened. Of course, it's very much in the interest of the U.S. media industry for this to happen. But that's largely irrelevant. Today, it benefits our economy; tomorrow, it might benefit the European economy. Even that is not the most frightening thing about this stuff. Moral issues will begin to be centralized as well. Next thing you know, you have a U.N. body determining what religious beliefs can be held. What's good for the people of a nation, a province, state, or even a city just doesn't matter anymore. All is sacrificed to uniformity and centralization.
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No, I just don't care what they think. It's their job to take care of their governments, it's our job to take care of ours. However interesting the discussion may be, it's insignificant when it comes to making policy decisions.
I believe in the independence of nations. That's why I don't criticize France, Germany, or Russia for their opposition to the Iraqi war. Those governments and the citizens of those nations made a decision that it was in their best interest to oppose the war, and that's fine. It's really none of our business what they do, beyond analyzing it to determine whether it's a threat to us or not.
To be fair, I'd say it's more US foreign policy and general disregard/disdain for the rest of the world that people dislike so much about the US.
Governments are not charged with the task of making other governments "like them." Their task is to defend their citizens.
The "if they disagree with us, well who cares, we'll bomb the crap out of them anyway" attitude.
I wasn't aware that we had bombed France. And we haven't bombed Germany since 1945. We can and should use the following criteria in determining who to "bomb the crap out of":
- The bombee is threatening.
- The bombee is implacable.
There you go. Don't combine those two things and you're safe.No, we don't. Quite frankly, we haven't noticed and wouldn't care if we did. I don't know where people are getting that tired old line, but it's pretty much meaningless.
That's all well and good. But with what are they going to replace the programs? *ducks*
The same way you get deer to cross at the little sign.
We already have that: C-Span. What we have to face is the sad fact that a statistically low number of people care what politicians do so long as they get their social spending and handouts.
But sooner or later, unsigned code *will* be able to access DRM'd data. It's just going to happen. That's why I don't think they'll allow unsigned code to exist at all. But you never know...we might get lucky.
Not to be pedantic or anything, but the weather is quite nice in the EYE of the storm.
Yeah, but the original poster implied that Jobs had no involvement with technical operations. That was the real point of my post. My opinion of his mental state was just "for free." :-)
Actually, I've heard that when Jobs was at NeXT, he would actually go around and inspect the code being written, and PULL THE PLUG ON THE MACHINE if he didn't like what he saw! What a nutjob!
No, our grandkids will know. Because we'll still be hearing that damn sound on every radio and TV ad having *anything* to do with technology for the next millennium.
IF it's backward compatible, yes. But that's not guaranteed. That's what makes this thing so insidious. If they allow ANY unsigned code on it, they've lost whatever benefit they might have gotten, so there's a strong possibility that they won't allow open source or freeware to run on it at all. Only proprietary packages from large corporations with the money and influence to get their binaries signed will run.
I like computers because they're precise: they do exactly what you tell them, and they tell you exactly what they've done. I already have enough things in my life that don't make sense, computers should not be one of them.
It won't. But once TC is in place, recording and movie publishers will start online distribution services, using formats that won't play on anything that allows untrusted code. A lot of people will want to be able to use these services, so Apple may end up caving in to TC.
Absolutely. But Hollywood and the Business Software Alliance don't represent America. I know it's difficult for some people to realize that, but it's true.
Sorry, since they bought NeXT, it can no longer be called Macintrash. It is now known as "OPENSTEP/Mach 5.3, operating system of the Gods." :-)
If media companies successfully require all Windows Media and RealMedia files to only play on trusted clients, it may not be realistically possible to avoid Treacherous Computing.
In other words, "our OS is a leaky boat so we're passing the buck to hardware manufacturers."
I'm disappointed in you, Taco. How could you miss an opportunity to run "the own-a-piece-of-the-rock dept."?
Especially since his user name is 'trotski'. :-)
The problem comes when: 1) the accent and grasp of language is so poor that communication is nearly impossible; and 2) the quality of the support itself is wretched. My mom's DVD recorder was on the blink a few months ago, so I called tech support. I got a lady from India who: could not be understood; sounded as if she were falling asleep (her phrases kept trailing off, followed by a long silence); and beyond reading me a standard boilerplate text, was absolutely useless in telling me what was wrong.
Now, I'm sure this woman was just trying to make a living, and I have nothing against her. This kind of "support," while inexpensive, is worthless.
But what about programming jobs? The company my dad works for has been farming out programming to India for 2 years now and it's just not working out. The time difference makes communication difficult, the code they get back is buggy and inefficient (even simple SQL stuff), they often completely ignore the requirements (code doesn't do anything like what it's supposed to do), and they have yet to get anything back in a reasonable amount of time. This kind of thing can't keep going, folks.
Or NeXT. At least they've gotten redemption for some of their better technologies in Mac OS X and Cocoa.
They want one...million...desktops.
I was just in a fender-bender with a lady down the street. Nothing serious. Afterword, she was laughing and telling me it was OK, accidents happen, don't worry about it, she was fine, etc. I've since seen her out doing yardwork and so on. The insurance company called. She's suing for injuries. It's a load of BS.
Hmmm.
Yes, that's what happened. Of course, it's very much in the interest of the U.S. media industry for this to happen. But that's largely irrelevant. Today, it benefits our economy; tomorrow, it might benefit the European economy. Even that is not the most frightening thing about this stuff. Moral issues will begin to be centralized as well. Next thing you know, you have a U.N. body determining what religious beliefs can be held. What's good for the people of a nation, a province, state, or even a city just doesn't matter anymore. All is sacrificed to uniformity and centralization.