Not anymore (in the US, at any rate). That rule went away with one of the recent (last 30 years or so) updates of copyright law. Sorry I don't have the reference in front of me. Of course, our copyright laws are completely screwed up anyway, so that doesn't mean much.
Yes. Everybody needs to remember that copyright is about *publishing*. If there is any kind of legal action that could be taken here, it would be by the phone company as the original publishers of those numbers.
Of course, I don't think *that* will happen either, but...
An addendum: OmniWeb *might* be doing something directly in the HTML layout engine. I think that they would probably be using the text and image layout classes in the AppKit, however.
Are you sure it'd be a trivial port? I imagine OmniWeb is probably using Quartz, for which there is no GNUstep counterpart last I checked.
Fairly sure, yes. Both Quartz (OSX) and DPS (NeXTSTEP, GNUstep) are hidden behind the high-level API (The Application Kit). All Cocoa (or OpenStep) applications are supposed to make use of the Application Kit rather than directly dealing with the rendering engine unless they want to do something really funky. OmniWeb shouldn't need to do anything really funky.
Why did I specify Linux? Because most people here have no clue what GNUstep is or what it runs on. Linux is just a convenient placeholder--you could substitute BSD or Solaris (but not Windows!) in there.
Trouble is, I'd have to face the double-humiliation of *buying* an N-Sync CD and of *returning* one. Why couldn't they have picked something that I'm not ashamed to buy--like Bela Fleck or something?
The Solution: Get a good analog card (one that has ADC(s) in a *breakout box*). Get a good CD Player (with a line out). Get Monster Cables. You're set.
My old TB Pinnacle had a S/N ratio of -97 dB and that was *inside* the computer. Much progress has been made since 1996.
Not to mention that it's an OpenStep application written in Objective C. Too bad we can't get Omni to do the (trivial) GNUstep/Linux port. It would mostly just require a recompile since their basic frameworks have been ported.
It really doesn't matter why. All that matters is that the lives of American citizens are in danger and we darn well better get off our cans to defend ourselves.
I'm every bit as aware of our government's folly as you are. I'm also aware of the danger of destroyed freedoms and privacy. My *only* message in this thread is: somebody's gonna get creamed--I'd rather it be Islamic fundamentalists. Sorry, but that's the situation.
Yes. Our government has yet again (witness South Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Argentina, and probably a lot of other situations I'm not aware of) done shady deals with unscrupulous nasties to help achieve some short term goal. This was dumb. But y'know what? That still doesn't alter the fact that bin Laden, Hussein, and a bunch of other people want to kill us all. What are we going to do about this--fail to defend ourselves? I happen to think that FDR was a slimeball who pushed Japan into a position where war was inevitable. That was dumb as well. Does that mean that we shouldn't have defended ourselves in WWII? Get real.
Excellent? It was corny as hell! Especially Counsellor Troi with her sickeningly sweet "Joy! From both of them!" line at the end. Right away, you knew it was going to be a very touchy-feely kind of show.
The huge corporations domination of the government
Well, sort of. Actually, it seems to be less "domination" than it is "free love." Or rather, corporatism. Sadly, many of those who claim to be on my side (Conservatives) seem to be steeped in corporatism far more than they are in Constitutionalism. Perhaps not so strangely, many of these people seem to be businessmen.
Why is this any different than some script kiddie "terrorist"?
I suspect that you already know the answer, which is why you asked the question. I'll oblige with the answer: because you and your lost time and resources are insignificant to the government. Only the resources of corporations that influence the economy are significant. It's not entirely unreasonable from a purely objective and pragmatic standpoint, of course, but it demonstrates how far our government has come from simply keeping law and order. And it demonstrates how seriously they believe that "the business of government is business."
What do you think those books of mugshots are for?
But those are only the faces of wanted criminals. From my understanding, (which might be mistaken, of course,) databases would contain facial features of non-criminals.
The problem here was not with the security people at the airport being unable to recognize terrorists. These guys had already been identified and orders were put out to track them. The paperwork got lost in some kind of bureaucratic snafu.
How is putting face recognition systems in an airport taking away your freedom?
Slippery slope. The distance between a database of everyone's faces paired with constant pervasive monitoring and Big Brother is short. Besides, we must look to the future--we may have to lead a revolution against this government someday. Let's not do anything that would make that goal too terribly difficult.
Don't forget A-10: Tank Killer. I spent way too much time playing that game as a kid. Along with the first four Space Quest games too. Dang, the game industry sucks these days!
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Not anymore (in the US, at any rate). That rule went away with one of the recent (last 30 years or so) updates of copyright law. Sorry I don't have the reference in front of me. Of course, our copyright laws are completely screwed up anyway, so that doesn't mean much.
Of course, I don't think *that* will happen either, but...
And don't forget the much earlier 'Pennsylvania 6-5000' by Glenn Miller's band.
An addendum: OmniWeb *might* be doing something directly in the HTML layout engine. I think that they would probably be using the text and image layout classes in the AppKit, however.
Fairly sure, yes. Both Quartz (OSX) and DPS (NeXTSTEP, GNUstep) are hidden behind the high-level API (The Application Kit). All Cocoa (or OpenStep) applications are supposed to make use of the Application Kit rather than directly dealing with the rendering engine unless they want to do something really funky. OmniWeb shouldn't need to do anything really funky.
Why did I specify Linux? Because most people here have no clue what GNUstep is or what it runs on. Linux is just a convenient placeholder--you could substitute BSD or Solaris (but not Windows!) in there.
I'm very glad to be in on this secret. Now I know where my next vacation will be. ;-)
Trouble is, I'd have to face the double-humiliation of *buying* an N-Sync CD and of *returning* one. Why couldn't they have picked something that I'm not ashamed to buy--like Bela Fleck or something?
My old TB Pinnacle had a S/N ratio of -97 dB and that was *inside* the computer. Much progress has been made since 1996.
Not to mention that it's an OpenStep application written in Objective C. Too bad we can't get Omni to do the (trivial) GNUstep/Linux port. It would mostly just require a recompile since their basic frameworks have been ported.
Could be.
I'm every bit as aware of our government's folly as you are. I'm also aware of the danger of destroyed freedoms and privacy. My *only* message in this thread is: somebody's gonna get creamed--I'd rather it be Islamic fundamentalists. Sorry, but that's the situation.
Me? I didn't do anything.
lot did when your government
That's more accurate.
was giving him money/arms?
Yes. Our government has yet again (witness South Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Argentina, and probably a lot of other situations I'm not aware of) done shady deals with unscrupulous nasties to help achieve some short term goal. This was dumb. But y'know what? That still doesn't alter the fact that bin Laden, Hussein, and a bunch of other people want to kill us all. What are we going to do about this--fail to defend ourselves? I happen to think that FDR was a slimeball who pushed Japan into a position where war was inevitable. That was dumb as well. Does that mean that we shouldn't have defended ourselves in WWII? Get real.
Read the Bible.
Excellent? It was corny as hell! Especially Counsellor Troi with her sickeningly sweet "Joy! From both of them!" line at the end. Right away, you knew it was going to be a very touchy-feely kind of show.
We don't love Osama bin Laden either. What do you want to do about it?
Well, sort of. Actually, it seems to be less "domination" than it is "free love." Or rather, corporatism. Sadly, many of those who claim to be on my side (Conservatives) seem to be steeped in corporatism far more than they are in Constitutionalism. Perhaps not so strangely, many of these people seem to be businessmen.
I suspect that you already know the answer, which is why you asked the question. I'll oblige with the answer: because you and your lost time and resources are insignificant to the government. Only the resources of corporations that influence the economy are significant. It's not entirely unreasonable from a purely objective and pragmatic standpoint, of course, but it demonstrates how far our government has come from simply keeping law and order. And it demonstrates how seriously they believe that "the business of government is business."
But those are only the faces of wanted criminals. From my understanding, (which might be mistaken, of course,) databases would contain facial features of non-criminals.
The problem here was not with the security people at the airport being unable to recognize terrorists. These guys had already been identified and orders were put out to track them. The paperwork got lost in some kind of bureaucratic snafu.
Ah, but a policeman isn't a national database of everyone's facial features.
The british government has no interest in invading citizen's privacy.
I'm glad you trust your government that much. I don't trust mine.
Slippery slope. The distance between a database of everyone's faces paired with constant pervasive monitoring and Big Brother is short. Besides, we must look to the future--we may have to lead a revolution against this government someday. Let's not do anything that would make that goal too terribly difficult.
I think the idea is that we shoot the drunk businessmen when they get uppity.
"Give me Liberty or give me Death."
I was able to buy one on ubid for $260! Of course, it was part of a 200-something shipment, so everybody got them cheap.
Don't forget A-10: Tank Killer. I spent way too much time playing that game as a kid. Along with the first four Space Quest games too. Dang, the game industry sucks these days!