Beautiful. Simply beautiful. Now to take what you said and add my points into it.
I hate reading the slashdot BS, like; "We need good lesson plans adequately thought-out"
Unfortunately, you are speaking to a lot of teachers who don't know much about computers and who already have had their amount of planning time reduced. To them, a lot of the crappy educational computer programs we've seen are fun looking.
The two, essential parts of the educational system are the teachers and the students. A ton and ton of the students don't care about their education. Quite a few like to play the game, get decent grades; they do what they are suppose to do. The smallest group is the group of truely intelligent and motivated people who, by grade 7, are already learning more on their own then in school. Computers help a few of the first two groups really aspire to care about their education..."the honors/AG kids can make powerpoint, but so can I!"
Motivated kids are a Good Thing. But once we motivate these guys, includding the one's already motivated, let em lose.
That is where the teachers come in. Really good teachers are not easy to find. "Nice" teachers are easy to find. Teachers who love you and like you to do well. Don't ever get the two groups confused. Think back to your really good teachers...mine and most of my friens' favorite teachers let the lose, encouraged them to think up things on their own instead of filling out the basic worksheet and understanding the basic concept...they make you apply that concept to something that matters. You could "talk" with your favorite teacher after class about intelligent issues...ah, well enough about teachers.
My favorite high-school computer method is the computer-projector method. The teacher will assign a research project with groups of 2 or 3 and there is a day or two in the library/computer lab to research your topic. In two weeks your project is due with a nice presentation. If you come to class with a 6th-grade level powerpoint with badly researched stuff and without handouts that include your sources, you get a D (or lower). This allows the motivated to stretch out and do something really nice (flash presentation or professional webpage) and teaches the consequence of not using class time wisely.
Just my opinion
I remember my school paid 900 or so dollars for 25 front page licenses. Yea, the school district had site licenses on Windows, but everything else is expensive.
Sometime I get sick of the bitching.
Start your own damn comapny.
There is a reason why tech workers are struggling to find jobs. A slugish economy combined with an increase in supply of tech people and the ability to get cheaper work elsewhere has made them a very cheap employee.
On the other hand, CEO's with good ideas, the ability to find capital, inspire their workers, beat competiton, etc are in shorter supply.
Honestly, it's the free market economy at its worst.
With data/harddrives so cheap now a days, most people don't even take notice to what they are filling up. I can only see this number growing since there is very little reason not to have data for people (since the data is so cheap)
but I'm no expert.
Sorry about this- somewhat new to Linux scene.
Dispite these minor changes in test9, what overall in 2.6 is going to be different? Any good reason to upgrade?
Yes, but the people who do buy stuff from telemarketers are people who just "can't say no". Those people view this list as a gift from God, since they don't have to worry about whether to be "polite" or be smart and hang up on them.
In short, your post simply confirms the original premise: the laptops are useless toys that do nothing education-wise. Sure, they might slightly improve students' understanding of computers. However, learning how to use Word and Powerpoint is something that can be done in just a few hours, and doesn't require students to have laptops.
Do you work better on a good day or a bad day? Most work better when happy. I know this sounds amazing, but learning AND having fun is possible. Don't be a troll and don't try to deny the results. Attendance is up, kids are having fun, teachers are happy, test scores are good, etc. What more do you want?
Don't assume "all anyone wants to do" is word process because that is just wrong. A bunch of kids want to play games, use their AIM (offical one), take their pictures etc. Even if 95% of the time they are using Word and the Internet, they are going to be really mad if someone "forces" them to switch.
Bottom line is Windows was built for the lowest computer idiot, and Linux was built for more advanced tasks. Being a mac user, it's important to let people use what they -want-, not what is best.
That's the way I'm reading it, except maybe number one should be re-worded. I think that they just added code to their distrubution rather then walking up to Linus and saying "This is it".
But I'm pretty uncertain.
Internetweek.com has been pretty good of summing things up for me. It seems like this case is GPL vs SCO. If GPL is correct, and I believe it is, anything released under the GPL is public and will always be public. Also, SCO is trying to claim they own the rest of the Linux code, which is GPL'd and so noone can own it. Maybe it's logic vs stupidity on second thought.
No matter what approach Microsoft takes, I don't see it taking a major blow to Linux. Short of open sourcing Windows, all they are doing is reducing the difference, but the fundamental differences still exisit. Either Linux is NeXT and will take over the world or it is just for us geeks. Only time will tell which of the many theories about linux and how it fits in with the market share are correct.
Unfortantly, you run into kids who don't really want to be at school. Like, a lot of them. Then there are the tests that you have to teach to. Sometimes technology excites them and makes them want to learn. Those smart boards with those projects are "SOOO cool, ya know?".
If you're kids fail the standarized tests, your in danger of definatly losing some funding, likely losing part of your raise, and possibly eventually losing your job. The truth is "teaching to the test" does exactly what it's meant to: increase test scores. I had a teacher in 7th grade who taught to the test and did intense horrible vocabulary work and I hated it. My End of Grade readomg scores jumped up 12 points or something (very very rare to see that much increase). In 8th grade, my teacher taught us to make websites about reading books in frontpage. A lot of kids learned a lot, we did a few presentations including one to a team of governors peoples and that was great. She read to us at the beggining of class and took the vocabulary as a joke. But then she got mad at me when my scores dropped.
Of course it all starts at a younger age level than High School. I really hate doing away with advance classes because I would drop out of school if they didn't exisit. I've been fortunate enough to get into a lot of honors and honors+ classes and spend time with students who care about things. When I go to classes where we are all "mixed"-ie high achieving and low achieving students, I get headaches. There's nothing but trash there. The kids don't want to learn. It's a challenge and while I can overcome it sometimes 7 times a day would be too much and I'd collapse.
Your ideas sound great and theory, but they'd be tough to apply.
Who would run a DoS or a DDoS attack on a bittorrent site? It seems like the people who administer such attacks would go against Microsoft, or Amazon, or eBay. Not only something they ethically disagree with but something that would be a challenge. It makes me kind of sad, just like the whole attacks of EFNet and all the other IRC big boys makes me feel.
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Instead of just returning it?
If you had been keeping up with the story, you would know that only recently has Apple offered AppleCare on iPods-extending the warranty to two years.
Beautiful. Simply beautiful. Now to take what you said and add my points into it.
I hate reading the slashdot BS, like; "We need good lesson plans adequately thought-out"
Unfortunately, you are speaking to a lot of teachers who don't know much about computers and who already have had their amount of planning time reduced. To them, a lot of the crappy educational computer programs we've seen are fun looking.
The two, essential parts of the educational system are the teachers and the students. A ton and ton of the students don't care about their education. Quite a few like to play the game, get decent grades; they do what they are suppose to do. The smallest group is the group of truely intelligent and motivated people who, by grade 7, are already learning more on their own then in school. Computers help a few of the first two groups really aspire to care about their education..."the honors/AG kids can make powerpoint, but so can I!"
Motivated kids are a Good Thing. But once we motivate these guys, includding the one's already motivated, let em lose.
That is where the teachers come in. Really good teachers are not easy to find. "Nice" teachers are easy to find. Teachers who love you and like you to do well. Don't ever get the two groups confused. Think back to your really good teachers...mine and most of my friens' favorite teachers let the lose, encouraged them to think up things on their own instead of filling out the basic worksheet and understanding the basic concept...they make you apply that concept to something that matters. You could "talk" with your favorite teacher after class about intelligent issues...ah, well enough about teachers.
My favorite high-school computer method is the computer-projector method. The teacher will assign a research project with groups of 2 or 3 and there is a day or two in the library/computer lab to research your topic. In two weeks your project is due with a nice presentation. If you come to class with a 6th-grade level powerpoint with badly researched stuff and without handouts that include your sources, you get a D (or lower). This allows the motivated to stretch out and do something really nice (flash presentation or professional webpage) and teaches the consequence of not using class time wisely. Just my opinion
Or not
I remember my school paid 900 or so dollars for 25 front page licenses. Yea, the school district had site licenses on Windows, but everything else is expensive.
Sometime I get sick of the bitching.
Start your own damn comapny.
There is a reason why tech workers are struggling to find jobs. A slugish economy combined with an increase in supply of tech people and the ability to get cheaper work elsewhere has made them a very cheap employee.
On the other hand, CEO's with good ideas, the ability to find capital, inspire their workers, beat competiton, etc are in shorter supply.
Honestly, it's the free market economy at its worst.
With data/harddrives so cheap now a days, most people don't even take notice to what they are filling up. I can only see this number growing since there is very little reason not to have data for people (since the data is so cheap)
but I'm no expert.
Sorry about this- somewhat new to Linux scene. Dispite these minor changes in test9, what overall in 2.6 is going to be different? Any good reason to upgrade?
Yes, but the people who do buy stuff from telemarketers are people who just "can't say no". Those people view this list as a gift from God, since they don't have to worry about whether to be "polite" or be smart and hang up on them.
In short, your post simply confirms the original premise: the laptops are useless toys that do nothing education-wise. Sure, they might slightly improve students' understanding of computers. However, learning how to use Word and Powerpoint is something that can be done in just a few hours, and doesn't require students to have laptops.
Flame bait and ignorant.
Teachers like this one , and studies and newspapers back up my claim.
Do you work better on a good day or a bad day? Most work better when happy. I know this sounds amazing, but learning AND having fun is possible. Don't be a troll and don't try to deny the results. Attendance is up, kids are having fun, teachers are happy, test scores are good, etc. What more do you want?
Don't assume "all anyone wants to do" is word process because that is just wrong. A bunch of kids want to play games, use their AIM (offical one), take their pictures etc. Even if 95% of the time they are using Word and the Internet, they are going to be really mad if someone "forces" them to switch.
Bottom line is Windows was built for the lowest computer idiot, and Linux was built for more advanced tasks. Being a mac user, it's important to let people use what they -want-, not what is best.
That's a great idea. You should write a virus for a living.
Go you for posting that.
That's the way I'm reading it, except maybe number one should be re-worded. I think that they just added code to their distrubution rather then walking up to Linus and saying "This is it".
But I'm pretty uncertain.
Internetweek.com has been pretty good of summing things up for me. It seems like this case is GPL vs SCO. If GPL is correct, and I believe it is, anything released under the GPL is public and will always be public. Also, SCO is trying to claim they own the rest of the Linux code, which is GPL'd and so noone can own it. Maybe it's logic vs stupidity on second thought.
Not a bad idea, but we're techies. We are too lazy.
No matter what approach Microsoft takes, I don't see it taking a major blow to Linux. Short of open sourcing Windows, all they are doing is reducing the difference, but the fundamental differences still exisit. Either Linux is NeXT and will take over the world or it is just for us geeks. Only time will tell which of the many theories about linux and how it fits in with the market share are correct.
Unfortantly, you run into kids who don't really want to be at school. Like, a lot of them. Then there are the tests that you have to teach to. Sometimes technology excites them and makes them want to learn. Those smart boards with those projects are "SOOO cool, ya know?". If you're kids fail the standarized tests, your in danger of definatly losing some funding, likely losing part of your raise, and possibly eventually losing your job. The truth is "teaching to the test" does exactly what it's meant to: increase test scores. I had a teacher in 7th grade who taught to the test and did intense horrible vocabulary work and I hated it. My End of Grade readomg scores jumped up 12 points or something (very very rare to see that much increase). In 8th grade, my teacher taught us to make websites about reading books in frontpage. A lot of kids learned a lot, we did a few presentations including one to a team of governors peoples and that was great. She read to us at the beggining of class and took the vocabulary as a joke. But then she got mad at me when my scores dropped. Of course it all starts at a younger age level than High School. I really hate doing away with advance classes because I would drop out of school if they didn't exisit. I've been fortunate enough to get into a lot of honors and honors+ classes and spend time with students who care about things. When I go to classes where we are all "mixed"-ie high achieving and low achieving students, I get headaches. There's nothing but trash there. The kids don't want to learn. It's a challenge and while I can overcome it sometimes 7 times a day would be too much and I'd collapse. Your ideas sound great and theory, but they'd be tough to apply.
Who would run a DoS or a DDoS attack on a bittorrent site? It seems like the people who administer such attacks would go against Microsoft, or Amazon, or eBay. Not only something they ethically disagree with but something that would be a challenge. It makes me kind of sad, just like the whole attacks of EFNet and all the other IRC big boys makes me feel.