x86 refers to a processor family. Apple has switched processor families before.
Did people expect that when Apple switched from the (Motorola) 680x0 to the PPC that they would suddenly be able to run MacOS 7.x on a shiny new AIX box? I don't suspect...
It's just one component. One piece of the puzzle.
Apple has choosen to use a more available component in their restricted architecture systems.
My last words on the subject: Larger corporations have an easier time justifying "warm backup" sites. Streaming data (using rsync or similar) that has changed is simple enough, and usually they can afford bigger pipes.
In the smaller business market, ISP's often charge based on capacity of pipeline utilized / duration of time / or some other "Penalize the greatest users" scheme (I don't think that is 100% evil, but it's not a friendly business model).
While I am a strong believer in a combination of services (I'm very paranoid about losing someone else's data), if you can only afford one service, I would still recommend Tape/Disk based archival.
As for how to get the tapes / disk / pieces of ivory offsite? I would recommend using a data storage company for storing your backups. Most will come to your business, bring an older set of tapes, pick up a new set of tapes, and place your tapes in a fireproof vault off of your site.
I am a firm believer in the power of data transmission, but I wouldn't bet my business on it.
- Avron
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Good rebuttal arete - some very valid points.
My last words on the subject:
Larger corporations have an easier time justifying "warm backup" sites. Streaming data (using rsync or similar) that has changed is simple enough, and usually they can afford bigger pipes.
In the smaller business market, ISP's often charge based on capacity of pipeline utilized / duration of time / or some other "Penalize the greatest users" scheme (I don't think that is 100% evil, but it's not a friendly business model).
While I am a strong believer in a combination of services (I'm very paranoid about losing someone else's data), if you can only afford one service, I would still recommend Tape/Disk based archival.
As for how to get the tapes / disk / pieces of ivory offsite? I would recommend using a data storage company for storing your backups. Most will come to your business, bring an older set of tapes, pick up a new set of tapes, and place your tapes in a fireproof vault off of your site.
I am a firm believer in the power of data transmission, but I wouldn't bet my business on it.
- Avron
If the time required to restore ALL of your data using 10% of your currently available bandwidth exceeds the amount of time to drive in a copy of your data from the next city/town/state, a physical backup solution remains your best option.
if ($timeToMoveDataOverWire * 10) > ($timeToShipDataOverLand) {use removable backup media}
I use 10% as a number, as if there is a weather related reason that your business is offline, there is a good chance that other businesses in the area are suffering from the same problem, and may be attempting to use the same method for data recovery at the same time. You might reduce that number further depending on QoS issues, etc.
Be it LTO, DVD/RW, or scribbling bits onto pieces of ivory, there is a greater chance of recovering your data in a reasonable amount of time, when using local removable media.
You must, however, be diligent in retaining a COMPLETE copy of your data off-site. It only takes one week of lollygagging to cause you to lose two weeks (or more) of data.
Wind / Solar / alternate power sources may never fully replace more traditional sources of power, but they can sure augment the hell out of them.
If I can power my house for between 9 and 11 months of the year on wind, while only relying on the more conventional power sources for the remaining 1-3 months, the environment will thank me for it. Even if nobody else does;)
Software costs only account for a small percentage of "initial" costs.
At some point, when your organization becomes larger than a single linux server handling all tasks, you might consider investing in infrastrucutre. Some components that you would probably include:
1. nim server (makes installs on new systems less painful) 2. mame service (Likely LDAP) 3. name service (replicas) 4. print server of some variety (maybe cups) 5. DMZ, screened network, etc. 6. web server / secure ftp server, etc. 7. Add specialized components until the penguins come home...
Each piece, in and of itself, requires a substantial investment in time to configure, and to get all of the pieces working together, you can kiss a few more hours goodbye.
Add to that problems with basic services, like automounter, etc., and there is more time that you have lost.
In the case of OSS deployment, the biggest dollar expenditure is in the labour for deployment, which includes researching various implementations, dealing with library issues, bug fixes, etc.
Thanks a boatload for the tip. Sadly, as it turns out, the account 'Avron' is not my original account. This I discovered by the url associated with the current account. Definitely not me nor my style.
The only other possible account name that I might have used is A.Gray. It's quite possible that this isn't me either, as it was about 7 years ago. I vasilated between off-the-wall and formality in those days...
Cheers,
I really don't thinkt this would've been for a moment of fame.
Fair enough. It would be more accurate to say "trading it for credibility with the 'online publishers' site(s)". It's a slightly different type of fame, and I should have been more specific.
Each company that hires me requests that I sign a non-disclosure agreement (standard for IT consulting here in Canada).
If I 'leak' confidential data, I am breaking that contract, and subject to various penalties, including, but not limited to, termination of employment, legal action, etc.
Apple employees in California are likely in the same boat. They (likely) sign non-disclosure agreements at the time of hiring. I can't imagine this being waived, as secrecy is quite important for Apple.
If I were in charge of anything at Apple, I'd want to know which of my employees had broken their word, their contract, and the law, for a moment of fame. I may not agree with the way that they are going about it, but if they worked for me, I'd want to know who it was too.
They'd be out on the street before the ink was dry on the pink slips...
Each location has it's own 'contest', with the computer providing a results display of each of the 3 seperate matches. Some form of bar chart could be kept 'live' showing the results for each pub.
You could 'film' 30-second interviews of the contestants, between questions, and play them back during "intermission" periods.
This way each of the pubs is competeing for an ultimate score, highest scoring pub/player = 1st place, etc.
This eliminates the majority of the concerns around latency, and provides a more effective use of the equipment at hand.
Sybase appears to be getting 'squeezed' out of datacentres, and their 'free' release doesn't appear to have made the impact that they were expecting, either...
It may well be the proverbial 'hot potato' in the database game. There are a small handful of contenders in the pay-for space, and a small handful in the free-to-good-home space.
I hope that Sybase finds it's niche again, but it's a fickle market. Who knows, if enough corporations have leadership changes next year, Sybase may regain leverage in the market.
I used to share your viewpoint. Until I had a house built.
The difference between building a 'standard' home and an R2000 variety (the energy efficient label of the early 90's) was an additional 30%. The cost to build my home was 150k (not including land), and 50k for R2000 took the cost of that home outside what I could justify.
I could have selected a smaller home I guess, or downgraded everything to pine with indoor/outdoor carpeting, but then it wouldn't have felt like home. And that's ultimately what it's all about.
I use this expression a great deal. Typically when describing variations of linux. Red Hat's Linux vs. (insert flavour here). Much like saying "This is Avron's car". It does not suggest that all cars are mine, rather that *this* one is.
It is amazing the way that people take a contextually accurate statement, and skew it to blow something out of proportion.
The fact that a very small but vocal group has the ability to sway the censorship of television in general should scare you. At first it starts with obscure arguments about "it's for our children", then it twists and becomes something uglier with more control than is safe.
But, it is a system that seems to be embraced by the American people. As such, you will soon lose the option to view what you choose, as other small but vocal groups bend the ear of those that will listen in yet another direction.
For what it's worth, I am not supporting 'smutty television'. I, apparently unlike the PTC, have the self control to switch my television to a channel that I find less offensive.
Rather than allowing you to retain responsibility for your own viewing habits, these people are slowly making the decisions for you.
To the PTC I say: "If something offends, change the channel. "If it is unsuitable for your children, change the channel. "If you think that it might offend me, it is not your right to infringe upon mine."
The decision to watch or not watch should be left up to the audience, not determined by a 'morally questionable' group, and filtered for the safety of an unintended audience.
By morally questionable, I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with the PTC or it's members. However, having never met them, I cannot vouch for their ability to judge what should or should not be censored. Anyone who stands before me to tell me what my choices are allowed to be is questionable in this fashion.
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x86 refers to a processor family. Apple has switched processor families before.
Did people expect that when Apple switched from the (Motorola) 680x0 to the PPC that they would suddenly be able to run MacOS 7.x on a shiny new AIX box? I don't suspect...
It's just one component. One piece of the puzzle.
Apple has choosen to use a more available component in their restricted architecture systems.
Not sure why this previous poast was moderated as "redundant", when I clearly indicated the reason for the repost...
*duplicate - fixed formatting*
Good rebuttal arete - some very valid points.
My last words on the subject:
Larger corporations have an easier time justifying "warm backup" sites. Streaming data (using rsync or similar) that has changed is simple enough, and usually they can afford bigger pipes.
In the smaller business market, ISP's often charge based on capacity of pipeline utilized / duration of time / or some other "Penalize the greatest users" scheme (I don't think that is 100% evil, but it's not a friendly business model).
While I am a strong believer in a combination of services (I'm very paranoid about losing someone else's data), if you can only afford one service, I would still recommend Tape/Disk based archival.
As for how to get the tapes / disk / pieces of ivory offsite? I would recommend using a data storage company for storing your backups. Most will come to your business, bring an older set of tapes, pick up a new set of tapes, and place your tapes in a fireproof vault off of your site.
I am a firm believer in the power of data transmission, but I wouldn't bet my business on it.
- Avron
Good rebuttal arete - some very valid points. My last words on the subject: Larger corporations have an easier time justifying "warm backup" sites. Streaming data (using rsync or similar) that has changed is simple enough, and usually they can afford bigger pipes. In the smaller business market, ISP's often charge based on capacity of pipeline utilized / duration of time / or some other "Penalize the greatest users" scheme (I don't think that is 100% evil, but it's not a friendly business model). While I am a strong believer in a combination of services (I'm very paranoid about losing someone else's data), if you can only afford one service, I would still recommend Tape/Disk based archival. As for how to get the tapes / disk / pieces of ivory offsite? I would recommend using a data storage company for storing your backups. Most will come to your business, bring an older set of tapes, pick up a new set of tapes, and place your tapes in a fireproof vault off of your site. I am a firm believer in the power of data transmission, but I wouldn't bet my business on it. - Avron
If the time required to restore ALL of your data using 10% of your currently available bandwidth exceeds the amount of time to drive in a copy of your data from the next city/town/state, a physical backup solution remains your best option.
if ($timeToMoveDataOverWire * 10) > ($timeToShipDataOverLand) {use removable backup media}
I use 10% as a number, as if there is a weather related reason that your business is offline, there is a good chance that other businesses in the area are suffering from the same problem, and may be attempting to use the same method for data recovery at the same time. You might reduce that number further depending on QoS issues, etc.
Be it LTO, DVD/RW, or scribbling bits onto pieces of ivory, there is a greater chance of recovering your data in a reasonable amount of time, when using local removable media.
You must, however, be diligent in retaining a COMPLETE copy of your data off-site. It only takes one week of lollygagging to cause you to lose two weeks (or more) of data.
*sucks
You think maybe your sister can loan me some of her contacts?
I re-activated my account this morning and it ucks to be at 0...
Wind / Solar / alternate power sources may never fully replace more traditional sources of power, but they can sure augment the hell out of them.
;)
If I can power my house for between 9 and 11 months of the year on wind, while only relying on the more conventional power sources for the remaining 1-3 months, the environment will thank me for it. Even if nobody else does
- Yet another Calgarian swayed by the wind...
Software costs only account for a small percentage of "initial" costs.
At some point, when your organization becomes larger than a single linux server handling all tasks, you might consider investing in infrastrucutre. Some components that you would probably include:
1. nim server (makes installs on new systems less painful)
2. mame service (Likely LDAP)
3. name service (replicas)
4. print server of some variety (maybe cups)
5. DMZ, screened network, etc.
6. web server / secure ftp server, etc.
7. Add specialized components until the penguins come home...
Each piece, in and of itself, requires a substantial investment in time to configure, and to get all of the pieces working together, you can kiss a few more hours goodbye.
Add to that problems with basic services, like automounter, etc., and there is more time that you have lost.
In the case of OSS deployment, the biggest dollar expenditure is in the labour for deployment, which includes researching various implementations, dealing with library issues, bug fixes, etc.
Free is a misnomer in the enterprise space
Thanks a boatload for the tip. Sadly, as it turns out, the account 'Avron' is not my original account. This I discovered by the url associated with the current account. Definitely not me nor my style. The only other possible account name that I might have used is A.Gray. It's quite possible that this isn't me either, as it was about 7 years ago. I vasilated between off-the-wall and formality in those days... Cheers,
Actually, unless I'm mistaken, it would have been avron (lower case a) - not Avron (upper case A). How were you able to search for a username?
D'oh! You weren't supposed to check... ;)
That's, like, 52 cats a year... The folks from PETA, Greenpeace, and the SPCA must have files a foot thick with your name on them!
If only I could remember the password to my original account... "Avron"
Then we'd see... Oh yes, then we'd see...
I'll take "Can I play with madness" for $100 please Alex.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see a restrained and balanced response in this thread.
Perhaps you are not aware that you have negated everything that you said by that addition of your last line in your post.
You say "Don't touch it, it's all good"
Then you say "Except this, I don't like it, get rid of it".
You preach non-intervention, and then allow your personal bias to dictate exceptions to the rule.
I'm not surprised to see this as an AC post.
Each company that hires me requests that I sign a non-disclosure agreement (standard for IT consulting here in Canada).
If I 'leak' confidential data, I am breaking that contract, and subject to various penalties, including, but not limited to, termination of employment, legal action, etc.
Apple employees in California are likely in the same boat. They (likely) sign non-disclosure agreements at the time of hiring. I can't imagine this being waived, as secrecy is quite important for Apple.
If I were in charge of anything at Apple, I'd want to know which of my employees had broken their word, their contract, and the law, for a moment of fame. I may not agree with the way that they are going about it, but if they worked for me, I'd want to know who it was too.
They'd be out on the street before the ink was dry on the pink slips...
I don't read slashdot for the sigs, I read it for the articles.
I recommend a slight change in overall scope:
Each location has it's own 'contest', with the computer providing a results display of each of the 3 seperate matches. Some form of bar chart could be kept 'live' showing the results for each pub.
You could 'film' 30-second interviews of the contestants, between questions, and play them back during "intermission" periods.
This way each of the pubs is competeing for an ultimate score, highest scoring pub/player = 1st place, etc.
This eliminates the majority of the concerns around latency, and provides a more effective use of the equipment at hand.
Sybase appears to be getting 'squeezed' out of datacentres, and their 'free' release doesn't appear to have made the impact that they were expecting, either...
It may well be the proverbial 'hot potato' in the database game. There are a small handful of contenders in the pay-for space, and a small handful in the free-to-good-home space.
I hope that Sybase finds it's niche again, but it's a fickle market. Who knows, if enough corporations have leadership changes next year, Sybase may regain leverage in the market.
I used to share your viewpoint. Until I had a house built.
/*sniff*
The difference between building a 'standard' home and an R2000 variety (the energy efficient label of the early 90's) was an additional 30%. The cost to build my home was 150k (not including land), and 50k for R2000 took the cost of that home outside what I could justify.
I could have selected a smaller home I guess, or downgraded everything to pine with indoor/outdoor carpeting, but then it wouldn't have felt like home. And that's ultimately what it's all about.
*sniff* I miss my house
I use this expression a great deal. Typically when describing variations of linux. Red Hat's Linux vs. (insert flavour here). Much like saying "This is Avron's car". It does not suggest that all cars are mine, rather that *this* one is.
It is amazing the way that people take a contextually accurate statement, and skew it to blow something out of proportion.
The fact that a very small but vocal group has the ability to sway the censorship of television in general should scare you. At first it starts with obscure arguments about "it's for our children", then it twists and becomes something uglier with more control than is safe.
But, it is a system that seems to be embraced by the American people. As such, you will soon lose the option to view what you choose, as other small but vocal groups bend the ear of those that will listen in yet another direction.
For what it's worth, I am not supporting 'smutty television'. I, apparently unlike the PTC, have the self control to switch my television to a channel that I find less offensive.
Rather than allowing you to retain responsibility for your own viewing habits, these people are slowly making the decisions for you.
To the PTC I say:
"If something offends, change the channel.
"If it is unsuitable for your children, change the channel.
"If you think that it might offend me, it is not your right to infringe upon mine."
The decision to watch or not watch should be left up to the audience, not determined by a 'morally questionable' group, and filtered for the safety of an unintended audience.
By morally questionable, I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with the PTC or it's members. However, having never met them, I cannot vouch for their ability to judge what should or should not be censored. Anyone who stands before me to tell me what my choices are allowed to be is questionable in this fashion.