That's because Copying is not Theft. Isn't that the argument used by most digital piracy apologists?
Copying is not theft. Copying medical data, however, does violate doctor-patient confidentiality. Copying other personal information can lead to actual theft, such as through fraud (stupidly referred to as "identity theft").
Obama is provably the bitch of the powers-that-be. Sarah Palin is provably a clueless bitch, and the same kind of bitch as Obama. So what we have is a couple of little bitches, but one is ever so much bitchier than the others.
Obama has fallen down on his promises again and again. Palin has proven her idiocy time and again. Anyone supporting either of them at this point, however, wins the absolute clueless bitch award. Palin was chosen for unelectability. Obama was chosen for his palatability. END OF LINE.
"Who is the more clueless. The clueless bitch, or the bitch who follows her?" - Obi-wan Kenobi
This a new low, even for slashdot. I know stories are late here, but 1948???
Next on slashdot, an article about how scientists are developing this interesting electronic device called a "computer" and how it will revolutionize the world.
I'm glad I am in a civilization that acknowledges reasons why government is not at all like a private company.
I take it, then, that you do not live in the United States. There are plenty of politicians here who want to run the government more like a private company.
No, he's correctly pointing out that evolution has nothing to do with math and the other sciences. Evolution is not key to critical thinking, observing facts, or anything else that goes along with the scientific method. You have it backwards. US teachers do a lousy job of teaching all math/science and it's not due to whether or not they are comfortable or not teaching about evolution.
The uncomfortableness about teaching evolution is symptomatic of what is wrong with science teaching in America. It's not just that so many science teachers are unqualified, but that certain topics are trumped by appeals to fundamentalist religious dogma (which is why I made the Saudi Arabian crack above) and popular opinion. If you are not allowed or taught (as a student) to think critically about difficult subjects, you will not be able to understand science at all.
Learning is something that should be considered sacred, at least in the secular sense.
This is why I left academia. Useless spouting of dogma. If you understood learning, you'd know that schools are not the only places learning occurs. Businesses are as well. So are many other activities.
Businesses are where you learn how to be a good slave. I guess to you only consider something to be "education" if it has an immediate, practical benefit. No wonder America is rapidly becoming a third-world country.
If you can't understand that, then it is good that you left academia.
Schools and in particular colleges are supposed to offer a particular form of learning called an education. I heard the myth, how an education is supposed to broaden your horizons, think deeper, etc. But too many "educated" people are of your kind, ostracizers. People who are glad when different-thinkers, who don't believe your dogmas, aren't allowed to taint the holy grounds of academia.
You really do assume a lot, don't you? I'm not an "ostracizer" (whatever you mean by that). I guess by "ostracizer" you mean someone who simply doesn't uncritically accept whatever you say (hey, you're making sweeping, unfounded assertions, so why can't I?).
My view is that dogma should always be questioned.
It's not dogma. Learning should be a noble goal, even if some people do not live up to it. But then, you apparently like to use pejoratives against anything you disagree with.
Further, the "open" environment of the university has a rigid caste system. Tenure-track positions are ruthlessly exploited. And there's great overproduction of graduate students in many fields (particularly the non-science ones, but several science fields as well).
The business world tends to be a lot more open about the shit you have to put up with and the conflicts of interest. But they don't generally claim to treat the job as a sacred duty and then half-ass it.
You're kidding, right? Business bullshits about conflicts of interest all the time. There is also a rigid caste system, especially between the "business" people and the people who do the actual work. The business world tries to sugar-coat the shit you have to put up with to add an additional barrier to you being able to complain about anything, and to justify how they shit on you.
I abandoned academia for seasonal work at Yellowstone National Park and have become much happier for it (well, during the summer half, winter, like now, I'm grumpy without work, though I think it'll change next winter). Sure I'd like steadier work that uses my knowledge better. And as the saying goes, I've been rich and poor, rich is better. But I wouldn't give this up for a post doc or a lecturer in a university.
So, you give up the rigid, ideologically driven academia (at least, according to you) to work for the Federal Government? And you don't see the irony?
Well, true, it has become more of a democratic-republic in the last couple of years. But, it was basically a dictatorship under Musharraf since he seized the country in a coup. And, the time I was thinking of, when we were basically pouring money all over them, was just after 11 Sept 2001 when they were a dictatorship.
"Ahh, the Kenyan Konspiracy. Obama is also a Kook! Therefore, Obama is head of the Kenyan Kook Konspiracy! Oh, my gosh! That has the same acronym as the KKK! PROOF that Obama went back in time to the South during Reconstruction and founded the KKK!" - Glenn Beck
Schools should be places of learning not religious monuments. The almost religious attitude is part of the reason I left academia/education.
Learning is something that should be considered sacred, at least in the secular sense. If you can't understand that, then it is good that you left academia.
I have both Physics and Engineering degrees. I'd be happy to go teach at my local middle-or-high school (I like teaching/tutoring) to replace the non-degreed biology teacher
So would I, but I have a family to support. Teacher pay is shit. Plus, despite having a doctorate and being qualified to teach at a university, I would still need to get a teaching certificate to teach physics or mathematics to a bunch of high school students.
Trust me, I'm all for paying teachers more money, but where does that money come from?
We could try actually investing in education instead of wasting all our money bombing the shit out of so many countries, increasing our financial support of dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, and bailing out large corporations when they fuck up. But hey, what do I know?
So the reason US students fall behind might be because some teachers don't want to teach the theory of evolution?? Yeah, that must be slowing down the US production of Evolutionary Scientists. Let's see the ridiculous straw arguments now that this somehow explains why we are behind in Math and other Sciences.
Critical thinking is a part of being good in any science. By your "rationale", we should only teach chemistry to people who plan to go into a chemistry-related field.
If you teach children that wishful thinking and majority opinion somehow constitutes observable facts, you are going to wind up with a country of people who cannot think logically.
And, in other news, a study from Saudi Arabia shows that a lot of teachers — some 60 percent — are reluctant to teach the theory that women can be as intelligent as men in the classroom either because they fear controversy or they just aren't comfortable with the material.
I had a psych prof (I was a CompSci major / Psych minor) flat out tell us that with very few exceptions, any Bachelor's degree was equivalent to any other once you're out in the real world.
Which is exactly why the engineering research firm I worked for hired all those French Literature majors...
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That's because Copying is not Theft. Isn't that the argument used by most digital piracy apologists?
Copying is not theft. Copying medical data, however, does violate doctor-patient confidentiality. Copying other personal information can lead to actual theft, such as through fraud (stupidly referred to as "identity theft").
So the solution to health care is to give unelected corporate CEO's greater control over health care?
FTFY
I believe in little GREY men in flying saucers. Green men? BAH! Heresy!
What shade of grey? You're not one of those light-grey freaks, are you?
Obama is provably the bitch of the powers-that-be. Sarah Palin is provably a clueless bitch, and the same kind of bitch as Obama. So what we have is a couple of little bitches, but one is ever so much bitchier than the others.
Obama has fallen down on his promises again and again. Palin has proven her idiocy time and again. Anyone supporting either of them at this point, however, wins the absolute clueless bitch award. Palin was chosen for unelectability. Obama was chosen for his palatability. END OF LINE.
"Who is the more clueless. The clueless bitch, or the bitch who follows her?" - Obi-wan Kenobi
In other news, spam out of Egypt almost completely ceased during the internet blackout!
In related news, anti-Mubarak protesters were heard shouting, "We want eggs, baked beans, democracy, and spam!"
RTFA
YMBNH
This a new low, even for slashdot. I know stories are late here, but 1948???
Next on slashdot, an article about how scientists are developing this interesting electronic device called a "computer" and how it will revolutionize the world.
Yes, for instance they can also be found in the northern US.
Pennsylvania is a bit of an anomaly. It's like a little piece of Alabama in the North.
I'm glad I am in a civilization that acknowledges reasons why government is not at all like a private company.
I take it, then, that you do not live in the United States. There are plenty of politicians here who want to run the government more like a private company.
(1) A person in the United States enjoys the right of freedom of speech... but not a right to "freedom of speech without any consequences".
By that definition, even people in the People's Republic of China have freedom of speech.
To the average brain-washed, right-wing american, your definition of 'left' is practically indistinguishable from 'communist.'
FTFY
No, he's correctly pointing out that evolution has nothing to do with math and the other sciences. Evolution is not key to critical thinking, observing facts, or anything else that goes along with the scientific method. You have it backwards. US teachers do a lousy job of teaching all math/science and it's not due to whether or not they are comfortable or not teaching about evolution.
The uncomfortableness about teaching evolution is symptomatic of what is wrong with science teaching in America. It's not just that so many science teachers are unqualified, but that certain topics are trumped by appeals to fundamentalist religious dogma (which is why I made the Saudi Arabian crack above) and popular opinion. If you are not allowed or taught (as a student) to think critically about difficult subjects, you will not be able to understand science at all.
Learning is something that should be considered sacred, at least in the secular sense.
This is why I left academia. Useless spouting of dogma. If you understood learning, you'd know that schools are not the only places learning occurs. Businesses are as well. So are many other activities.
Businesses are where you learn how to be a good slave. I guess to you only consider something to be "education" if it has an immediate, practical benefit. No wonder America is rapidly becoming a third-world country.
If you can't understand that, then it is good that you left academia.
Schools and in particular colleges are supposed to offer a particular form of learning called an education. I heard the myth, how an education is supposed to broaden your horizons, think deeper, etc. But too many "educated" people are of your kind, ostracizers. People who are glad when different-thinkers, who don't believe your dogmas, aren't allowed to taint the holy grounds of academia.
You really do assume a lot, don't you? I'm not an "ostracizer" (whatever you mean by that). I guess by "ostracizer" you mean someone who simply doesn't uncritically accept whatever you say (hey, you're making sweeping, unfounded assertions, so why can't I?).
My view is that dogma should always be questioned.
It's not dogma. Learning should be a noble goal, even if some people do not live up to it. But then, you apparently like to use pejoratives against anything you disagree with.
Further, the "open" environment of the university has a rigid caste system. Tenure-track positions are ruthlessly exploited. And there's great overproduction of graduate students in many fields (particularly the non-science ones, but several science fields as well). The business world tends to be a lot more open about the shit you have to put up with and the conflicts of interest. But they don't generally claim to treat the job as a sacred duty and then half-ass it.
You're kidding, right? Business bullshits about conflicts of interest all the time. There is also a rigid caste system, especially between the "business" people and the people who do the actual work. The business world tries to sugar-coat the shit you have to put up with to add an additional barrier to you being able to complain about anything, and to justify how they shit on you.
I abandoned academia for seasonal work at Yellowstone National Park and have become much happier for it (well, during the summer half, winter, like now, I'm grumpy without work, though I think it'll change next winter). Sure I'd like steadier work that uses my knowledge better. And as the saying goes, I've been rich and poor, rich is better. But I wouldn't give this up for a post doc or a lecturer in a university.
So, you give up the rigid, ideologically driven academia (at least, according to you) to work for the Federal Government? And you don't see the irony?
In what universe is Pakistan a dictatorship?
Well, true, it has become more of a democratic-republic in the last couple of years. But, it was basically a dictatorship under Musharraf since he seized the country in a coup. And, the time I was thinking of, when we were basically pouring money all over them, was just after 11 Sept 2001 when they were a dictatorship.
Kenyan Konspiracy
"Ahh, the Kenyan Konspiracy. Obama is also a Kook! Therefore, Obama is head of the Kenyan Kook Konspiracy! Oh, my gosh! That has the same acronym as the KKK! PROOF that Obama went back in time to the South during Reconstruction and founded the KKK!" - Glenn Beck
This is a public good, like clean water and not being tortured by the police
This is America. Everything is privatized, including the police torture. And we like it that way (well, at least Fox News tells us that we like it).
Schools should be places of learning not religious monuments. The almost religious attitude is part of the reason I left academia/education.
Learning is something that should be considered sacred, at least in the secular sense. If you can't understand that, then it is good that you left academia.
I have both Physics and Engineering degrees. I'd be happy to go teach at my local middle-or-high school (I like teaching/tutoring) to replace the non-degreed biology teacher
So would I, but I have a family to support. Teacher pay is shit. Plus, despite having a doctorate and being qualified to teach at a university, I would still need to get a teaching certificate to teach physics or mathematics to a bunch of high school students.
Trust me, I'm all for paying teachers more money, but where does that money come from?
We could try actually investing in education instead of wasting all our money bombing the shit out of so many countries, increasing our financial support of dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, and bailing out large corporations when they fuck up. But hey, what do I know?
So the reason US students fall behind might be because some teachers don't want to teach the theory of evolution?? Yeah, that must be slowing down the US production of Evolutionary Scientists. Let's see the ridiculous straw arguments now that this somehow explains why we are behind in Math and other Sciences.
Critical thinking is a part of being good in any science. By your "rationale", we should only teach chemistry to people who plan to go into a chemistry-related field.
If you teach children that wishful thinking and majority opinion somehow constitutes observable facts, you are going to wind up with a country of people who cannot think logically.
And, in other news, a study from Saudi Arabia shows that a lot of teachers — some 60 percent — are reluctant to teach the theory that women can be as intelligent as men in the classroom either because they fear controversy or they just aren't comfortable with the material.
Better yet, maybe reduce the prison population in general?
That's a dangerous request without qualifiers ;)
Okay. Release all the non-violent drug offenders. Lock up all the mimes.
Yeah, but I bet the CEO of your company isn't trying to kill you.
You must not work for HP.
if you'll stop splitting up your comments between the title and the comment sections.
Namely, that he's an idiot who went into a lot of debt to get a piece of paper that doesn't matter beyond letting everyone know it ?-)
Yeah, that electrical engineering degree I got was useless. I could have gotten that research job straight out of high school.
I had a psych prof (I was a CompSci major / Psych minor) flat out tell us that with very few exceptions, any Bachelor's degree was equivalent to any other once you're out in the real world.
Which is exactly why the engineering research firm I worked for hired all those French Literature majors...