That has nothing to do with the comments posted above. In the tablet, he claimed some were stronger in some aspects (storage, camera, bluetooth). I posted a device that met those criteria. I even said later that I think it's inferior to the iPad.
The phones I listed are cheaper, have bigger screens and have changeable batteries, and lots of the criteria for a phone you asked us to name.
As far as battery life on a phone, I couldn't care less. My phone goes on a charger every night and it probably lasts 3x as long as an iPhones battery And I'm really not interested in getting involved in your iPhone vs Android holy wars - I have a blackberry.
First of all - sure it does, there's lots of ways to make phone calls on an iPad. Everything from Skype to just SIP softphones. It actually works pretty darn well too! How much longer do you really think before all cellphones are just using SIP services? The majority of the phone calls we make today are converted to IP at some. It's just far cheaper than using traditional TDM circuits.
But honestly, it seems like you just can't seem to see the forest for the trees. The devices are identical except one "can make phone calls" (your words, not mine) and the other one is bigger. The run the same software. The UI is the same, they have the same single home button.
I think the iPod Touch is in a space all by itself, I really dont think apple has a competitor there. Amazing device, great price. Not that I think the Archos tablet is as good as an iPad, although I would argue that I prefer several Android phones over the iPhone.
I think it's because steve jobs isn't a technical wiz like some of them, he's a lot closer to the average consumer (closer! not a luddite, just closer than say, bill gates). he wants devices that are beautiful and easy to use. i really think that has got to be the driving philosophy. turns out his model is exceptionally popular, and for good reason. it brought technology to people who would have never embraced it under the wintel model like they have with iDevices.
(Disclaimer: I own a 16GB wifi ipad, I really love it)
Please explain to me why an iPad isn't a big cellphone. The software is the same software from the iphone. The hardware is the same hardware as the iphone, except with a larger screen. So the hardware and software are the same. How is it not a big cellphone? I don't get it. Realize that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MERITS OF THE DEVICE. It's a fantastic device, I _love_ mine, especially for reading, but it's 99% an iphone as far as I can tell.
Why do you assume when anyone calls the iPad a big phone they're android fans attacking apple? It _was_ a big iPhone, and still is. You do remember when iOS was called "iPhone OS" right? It ran the exact same software as a phone. Now, I own an iPad, and I think it's a great device, but it is essentially a big iphone. There's nothing wrong with that, it's not an insult.
With that said, I had an iPad and a Galaxy tab at the same time, and the galaxy tab is SERIOUSLY just a big phone, everyone who picked it up looked at it for 5 seconds, then put it against their ear and pretended to talk on it like a phone and laughed. I think it has to do with the fact that you can hold the galaxy tab in one hand like a phone.
Anyway, I ended up with an iPad and sent the galaxy back. iOS (iPhoneOS) just translated a lot better to the tablet form factor.
I think people focus too much on the hardware. They say, "oh we've had tablets for years and they never caught on". We also had smartphones for years and they never caught on (massively, outside of the business world) - until Apple created software for them that was usable by anyone. The whole point of the iPad is that it just disappears, you forget it's even there. It is the minimum physical device require to use your applications. If Apple taught us anything it's that the hardware is a very small part of the equation to a successful tablet.
Tablets have been around for years yet have not found an actual purpose outside of niche applications.
Two reasons for that, 1) they all ran Windows and required a stylus 2) fast, universal, wireless connectivity didn't exist like it does today. Apple sold 14.79 million by Dec 25th. I think we've moved beyond "niche applications".
I've heard that it's illegal to use the word "Engineer" in your job title unless you've somehow been accredited as an engineer. Presumably by obtaining a bachelor's degree and maybe passing some board exam? I have no idea, honestly. I did some googling once and turned up some state specific legislation (Texas, Professional Engineers Act? Something like that) but no federal law that I could find.
Anyone know the real story on the use of the term? I know some guys who claim to be "Systems Engineers" that are most definitely not legitimate engineers and it bugs me to no end.
iPad. Sorry. It will usher in an entire new era of computing. I don't like that it's an Apple device any more than anyone else, but it's opened the floodgates. In 10 years we'll look back on the Kinect as a really awesome toy and the iPad as the first true beginning of the mass adoption of a new form factor for computing. Now let's just hope Android can steal the lead with Honeycomb.
I don't know about you, but my outbound proxy requires authentication and uses content group based filtering. But anyway, among other things, a firewall filters outbound traffic. It also can be used to create a screened subnet that makes compromising hosts on a private network VASTLY more difficult. These days they also provide other features like vpn tunnel end points and intrusion detection.
This is pretty much spot on. Installed by default and easy to manage centrally. If I could manage Firefox as easily as I can manage IE (WSUS updates, group policies to force proxies and homepages, etc) then we'd already be using it. Compatibility isn't a terrible concern these days, and if I had an ADM for it I could force IE tab for sites that weren't compatible.
So when anyone elses posts benchmarks they aren't real world tests but when you post benchmarks they are? And even though there are literally dozens of other benchmarks that show sequential reads for SATA 6G drives over 300MB/s, you'd believe that every other benchmark is incorrect and that the link you posted is the one true, accurate benchmark instead of the anomaly? Okie dokie.
Just curious, why is MLC not an option? Is it just a matter of sheer IOPS requirements or do you have longevity concerns? Can I ask what the workload is?
Today, yes, and Fusion I/O total throughput isn't that impressive, just look at the OCZ RevoDrive X2 for comparison. The Crucial RealSSD ($2.18/GB) drives are SATA 6G and are currently pushing over 350MB/s. And we're talking current generation controllers. You really think we'll see SATA 12G before we completely saturate SATA 6G? All we need to do is take a Crucial RealSSD, add in a second controller and internal raid and we're looking at nearly 700MB/s of non-sequential peak read throughput. We could overshoot SATA 6G that fast!
The reason drive manufacturers aren't pushing new controllers and more exotic controller designs is because the VAST majority of computers still don't support SATA 6G.
We use large multifunction devices for scanning and for 99% of hardware on the desktop you just use usb redirection. We don't use CDs for _anything_. It's 2010, we use thumb drives when we need portable media. The bottom line is managing thin clients is easier than full blown desktops, anyone that does it know's it's true. You have to image desktops, I can flash a thin client in about 2 minutes. Thin clients are easier, no reasonable person would even debate that. How much money do you save with desktops? You still need all the same licensing. You just add the additional cost of the PC. Makes no sense.
We pay $199 for HP Thin Clients, TS licenses are $80 and CONCURRENT Citrix licenses are ~$350. We operate at about a 40% concurrency rate.
$199 + ($350 * 0.4) + $80 = $419
We've got thin clients that are 8+ years old and still humming along, along with all the advantages of running a Citrix (remote access, security, easy of management, etc). I'm glad your organization is so small that you can use old desktops running Debian -- but that doesn't scale.
Google's size is the reason they CAN do it, not an obstacle. The immense amount of engineering resources within the organization makes overcoming any technical challenge easily surmountable.
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That has nothing to do with the comments posted above. In the tablet, he claimed some were stronger in some aspects (storage, camera, bluetooth). I posted a device that met those criteria. I even said later that I think it's inferior to the iPad.
The phones I listed are cheaper, have bigger screens and have changeable batteries, and lots of the criteria for a phone you asked us to name.
As far as battery life on a phone, I couldn't care less. My phone goes on a charger every night and it probably lasts 3x as long as an iPhones battery And I'm really not interested in getting involved in your iPhone vs Android holy wars - I have a blackberry.
First of all - sure it does, there's lots of ways to make phone calls on an iPad. Everything from Skype to just SIP softphones. It actually works pretty darn well too! How much longer do you really think before all cellphones are just using SIP services? The majority of the phone calls we make today are converted to IP at some. It's just far cheaper than using traditional TDM circuits.
But honestly, it seems like you just can't seem to see the forest for the trees. The devices are identical except one "can make phone calls" (your words, not mine) and the other one is bigger. The run the same software. The UI is the same, they have the same single home button.
Tablet - Archos 101
Phone - Fascinate? Incredible? Evo? Epic? Droid X?
I think the iPod Touch is in a space all by itself, I really dont think apple has a competitor there. Amazing device, great price. Not that I think the Archos tablet is as good as an iPad, although I would argue that I prefer several Android phones over the iPhone.
I think it's because steve jobs isn't a technical wiz like some of them, he's a lot closer to the average consumer (closer! not a luddite, just closer than say, bill gates). he wants devices that are beautiful and easy to use. i really think that has got to be the driving philosophy. turns out his model is exceptionally popular, and for good reason. it brought technology to people who would have never embraced it under the wintel model like they have with iDevices.
worst analogy ever. yes an imac is as similar to a laptop as an ipad is to an iphone. very astute observation.
(Disclaimer: I own a 16GB wifi ipad, I really love it)
Please explain to me why an iPad isn't a big cellphone. The software is the same software from the iphone. The hardware is the same hardware as the iphone, except with a larger screen. So the hardware and software are the same. How is it not a big cellphone? I don't get it. Realize that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MERITS OF THE DEVICE. It's a fantastic device, I _love_ mine, especially for reading, but it's 99% an iphone as far as I can tell.
Why do you assume when anyone calls the iPad a big phone they're android fans attacking apple? It _was_ a big iPhone, and still is. You do remember when iOS was called "iPhone OS" right? It ran the exact same software as a phone. Now, I own an iPad, and I think it's a great device, but it is essentially a big iphone. There's nothing wrong with that, it's not an insult.
With that said, I had an iPad and a Galaxy tab at the same time, and the galaxy tab is SERIOUSLY just a big phone, everyone who picked it up looked at it for 5 seconds, then put it against their ear and pretended to talk on it like a phone and laughed. I think it has to do with the fact that you can hold the galaxy tab in one hand like a phone.
Anyway, I ended up with an iPad and sent the galaxy back. iOS (iPhoneOS) just translated a lot better to the tablet form factor.
I'm sorry ... what? 15 million units in one year isn't impressive? You realize the iPad is now the fastest selling consumer electronic device in HISTORY. Outselling the everything from the iPhone to DVD players?
I think people focus too much on the hardware. They say, "oh we've had tablets for years and they never caught on". We also had smartphones for years and they never caught on (massively, outside of the business world) - until Apple created software for them that was usable by anyone. The whole point of the iPad is that it just disappears, you forget it's even there. It is the minimum physical device require to use your applications. If Apple taught us anything it's that the hardware is a very small part of the equation to a successful tablet.
Tablets have been around for years yet have not found an actual purpose outside of niche applications.
Two reasons for that, 1) they all ran Windows and required a stylus 2) fast, universal, wireless connectivity didn't exist like it does today. Apple sold 14.79 million by Dec 25th. I think we've moved beyond "niche applications".
I've heard that it's illegal to use the word "Engineer" in your job title unless you've somehow been accredited as an engineer. Presumably by obtaining a bachelor's degree and maybe passing some board exam? I have no idea, honestly. I did some googling once and turned up some state specific legislation (Texas, Professional Engineers Act? Something like that) but no federal law that I could find.
Anyone know the real story on the use of the term? I know some guys who claim to be "Systems Engineers" that are most definitely not legitimate engineers and it bugs me to no end.
Woah! Awesome! I use google for simple math and things like temperature and speed conversions, but that's really slick! Mod this guy up!
iPad. Sorry. It will usher in an entire new era of computing. I don't like that it's an Apple device any more than anyone else, but it's opened the floodgates. In 10 years we'll look back on the Kinect as a really awesome toy and the iPad as the first true beginning of the mass adoption of a new form factor for computing. Now let's just hope Android can steal the lead with Honeycomb.
I don't know about you, but my outbound proxy requires authentication and uses content group based filtering. But anyway, among other things, a firewall filters outbound traffic. It also can be used to create a screened subnet that makes compromising hosts on a private network VASTLY more difficult. These days they also provide other features like vpn tunnel end points and intrusion detection.
Nope, just the same joke about half a dozen times (out of about 10 posts)
This is pretty much spot on. Installed by default and easy to manage centrally. If I could manage Firefox as easily as I can manage IE (WSUS updates, group policies to force proxies and homepages, etc) then we'd already be using it. Compatibility isn't a terrible concern these days, and if I had an ADM for it I could force IE tab for sites that weren't compatible.
So when anyone elses posts benchmarks they aren't real world tests but when you post benchmarks they are? And even though there are literally dozens of other benchmarks that show sequential reads for SATA 6G drives over 300MB/s, you'd believe that every other benchmark is incorrect and that the link you posted is the one true, accurate benchmark instead of the anomaly? Okie dokie.
Wow that's some pretty heavy writing. Is this after factoring in wear leveling?
Really? Because here's a SATA 6G drive reading over 350MB/s.
Just curious, why is MLC not an option? Is it just a matter of sheer IOPS requirements or do you have longevity concerns? Can I ask what the workload is?
Today, yes, and Fusion I/O total throughput isn't that impressive, just look at the OCZ RevoDrive X2 for comparison. The Crucial RealSSD ($2.18/GB) drives are SATA 6G and are currently pushing over 350MB/s. And we're talking current generation controllers. You really think we'll see SATA 12G before we completely saturate SATA 6G? All we need to do is take a Crucial RealSSD, add in a second controller and internal raid and we're looking at nearly 700MB/s of non-sequential peak read throughput. We could overshoot SATA 6G that fast!
The reason drive manufacturers aren't pushing new controllers and more exotic controller designs is because the VAST majority of computers still don't support SATA 6G.
We use large multifunction devices for scanning and for 99% of hardware on the desktop you just use usb redirection. We don't use CDs for _anything_. It's 2010, we use thumb drives when we need portable media. The bottom line is managing thin clients is easier than full blown desktops, anyone that does it know's it's true. You have to image desktops, I can flash a thin client in about 2 minutes. Thin clients are easier, no reasonable person would even debate that. How much money do you save with desktops? You still need all the same licensing. You just add the additional cost of the PC. Makes no sense.
We pay $199 for HP Thin Clients, TS licenses are $80 and CONCURRENT Citrix licenses are ~$350. We operate at about a 40% concurrency rate.
$199 + ($350 * 0.4) + $80 = $419
We've got thin clients that are 8+ years old and still humming along, along with all the advantages of running a Citrix (remote access, security, easy of management, etc). I'm glad your organization is so small that you can use old desktops running Debian -- but that doesn't scale.
So you've used a horrible implementation several years ago? Anecdotal evidence is ... anecdotal.
Google's size is the reason they CAN do it, not an obstacle. The immense amount of engineering resources within the organization makes overcoming any technical challenge easily surmountable.