Yeah, the orignal post was a little bit on the sensationalist side.. isn't it:). I told the tech that it makes no sense to me why I have to buy an upgrade and I did say it in a stern tone that was a bit louder than my normal conversational voice. I wasn't rolling around throwing a tantrum like a 2 year old:).
I'm not a Mac guy, I've been building my own PCs for the past 15 years. I had been using XP from launch until last August (when my mobo fried and decided to put Win 7 on my new computer). If MS stopped supporting IE for XP as soon as Vista came out, I would have been livid. I understand there comes a point then a company needs to cut ties with an OS.. but not in that short of a time frame.
I think the entire point of me first commenting in this thread was to voice my displease with out Apple does OS updates. A new version every year or two that is basically the equivilent of a service pack from MS, but Apple makes you pay for it. There is already an premium on Apple products to begin with, the small updates should be free.
But that's just my opinion and it's one of the reasons I don't plan on buying a macbook of my own.
That's the one I was following. I did play on their server for about a month, even got 5 old guild mates to come back as well. It was fun, but with us all being about a decade older with more going on in life, it was hard getting more than 2 people online at once. Not sure if they have put the housing back in yet, but that was one thing that was sorely missing last time I was logged in. They did give us speeder bikes, which was a god send.
Not my laptop, it is my fiancee's. She's not a computer person at all and I almost never use Macs. I tried to upgrade safari, install firefox and I think I also tried opera... but nothing would work.
We were willing to pay a fee for them to work on the computer (thinking it was some setting we messed up). When I was told the reason it no longer worked and what the only solution was, I said that it was unacceptable. The tech at the store almost seemed amazed someone was using a laptop that was 6 years old.
I do a lot of negotiating at work... often it requires compromises. My fiancee gave Apple $2000 for her macbook, in turn Apple should make sure it 'just works' for something basic like browsing the internet. I didn't go into the store wanting a new OS, I wanted her laptop to be able to get on the web. I didn't have to do much to convince the manager that all we wanted was for it to work, he's the one that suggested they would go ahead and upgrade the OS and safari for us.
I think it's perfectly resonable to expect a 6 year old OS to be able to handle current browsers. I can understand if they don't want to support 3rd party browsers, but I don't understand why I couldn't upgrade safari.
I still remember how much fun SWG was, but when they implemented the "combat upgrade" they completely ruined the game. I loved the SWG economy and player cities. No other game I ever tried came close to replicating what SWG did (never tried Eve Online). Almost all the best gear is player created, and the best gear requires very rare material spawns that even the newest newbie can aquire if they know which planet the material is on. If you wanted nothing to do with combat, you could still have a very important role in the community. There was something for everyone. A friend of mine had fun being the town mayor and architect.
Before they ruined combat, the only downside to SWG was the lack of end game. Base raids were fun when both sides were somewhat even (almost never happened) and there were just a couple instances to run.
A group has been working on re creating the orignal SWG (haven't check on the project since last spring), but I would play it again in a heartbeat.
Why, because I didn't bend over and take one in the butt from Steve Jobs? I'm sorry but their way of handling their software practically disabled my fiancee's laptop. Can you imagine if Microsoft told XP users that their computers could not use IE7 or IE8 and that their choice was to use IE6 for the rest of time or to buy a copy of Windows 7? We're not talking about a laptop from the 90s, it was bought in the '04-'05 time frame.
I'm old enough to have been screwed over by companies enough for me to learn a lesson. They will continue to take advantage of you until you fight back. Never take anything at face value. Ask questions and if their answers don't clarify the situation, talk to a manager. If you've been a customer for long enough, you deserve something back.
The complaint was "Her laptop can't browse the internet and I can't seem to upgrade the browser (safari) or install a new browser (firefox)".
Their answer "Unfortunately your OS is old and there is no way for it to run the latest version of safari which would allow you to use the internet. The only fix is to upgrade to the newest OS for $40"
Me "There's nothing wrong with the current OS, why do I have to be forced to upgrade to a new OS in order to keep functionality of this laptop?"
About then is when the manager came over and I explained that it seemed pretty stupid that her laptop no longer was able to surf the internet. I wasn't yelling in the store, but I wasn't using my library voice either.
My fiancee has a 6 year old macbook. About 2 years ago a few websites stopped working for her, then a few more, until just about everything didn't work as intended. The OS could not run the latest browsers, including Safari. Only thing that would fix the problem was upgrading to the latest Apple OS... after enough complaints to the manager at the apple store (which I did in a loud manner, on the floor, where it was crowded) I get a free upgrade.
So it seems to me Apple is already doing this sort of thing.
It was never the best player
Actually it was; just not by metrics you choose to deem important.
So what metrics made it the best? I thought my 1st gen nano was a waste of money (not to say all their ipods were garbage, but the one I got should have cost 1/2 of what they sold it for)
Yes, "probably". I'm not an expert on judge/jury relationships so I cannot say, with 100% confidence, what the foreman's correct course of action should have been.
It wasn't cited, the jury foreman was unsure of a specific phrase and used wikipedia to look it up. Honest mistake. Her proper course of action probably would have been to ask the judge to provide some literature about it instead of going out on her own to get it.
I would never cite wikipedia, but it is still an effective tool while doing research.
I'd be more than ok for the government to reduce it's waste and use the tax money already being collected towards basic health care for all. We all know how much waste medicare and medicaid have. Tighten the belt on those and a few other big ticket items (military spending, ahem) and voila, basic care for all. Also do something to reduce the operating costs of doctors. While my copay is $20, I went to the doc the other week basically to make sure my meds were working as intended... $130 cost for 10 minutes with the doctor, a prescription refill, and 20 minutes of staring at the wall in the exam room by myself.
And costs will continue to sky rocket until we, as a society, understand that doctors are humans that occasionally make a mistake. Doctors either have to charge an arm and a leg to cover their own insurance costs of practicing or they just shy away from the higher risk areas.
It was a scare tactic to get the guy to stop calling off work on Fridays when he was obviously not sick. In my office we don't have sick days... if you're sick, you're sick. You stay home and are expected to log in to your laptop and at least be checking email every few hours. The guy was abusing the trust the employer has in us, calling in 1 or 2 Friday's a month so he could drive up to his hometown in a neighboring state for a longer weekend. I'm glad someone said something to him, I don't want them to create a policy with a fixed number of sick days or being forced to not get paid for when I'm out sick. It only takes 1 bad apple to ruin it for everyone else.
If you're out 1 day, they aren't going to send someone after you. But if you make a habit of being out (like always being sick on a Monday or Friday), they have a right to be suspicious. I know someone that would call in sick at least 1 Friday a month. The manager confronted ther person and asked them to bring in a dr. note from then on. Amazingly no more Friday sick days.
If that type of behavior is tolerated, the company will lose much more in lost productivity.
I saw 4 Volts driving south on I-75 in Ohio on Wednesday, they were moving along at a pretty good pace (70-75mph). Far enough from Detroit that they were probably testing the gas engine.
But more on topic, I think the Volt is a good step forward but even if it is selling at a loss, it's too expensive for what the vehicle offers. It's not a big car (smaller than my TSX, which admittedly doesn't have much room in the back for adults), looks like it would be cramped for anyone in the back seat. $40,000 is a big price tag for a car that is designed for city commuting. What happens in 2-3 years when the battery doesn't have the same capacity as it did brand new? Regardless of what they say you can get out of it, we all know batteries almost never live up to expectation. Who is going to be happy about paying $5000 for a new car battery?
Or the teachers give the kids detention... which is what happened to me when I did such things in the 5th-8th grade age range.
Boys will be boys, I don't think those types of activities necessarily reflect poor parenting. Now if they were going around threatening to stab people... yes, that's a real issue.
Take away a recess or make the kids stay late to clean up the class room. Talk to the parent at the next P/T conference. Don't make a big deal about kids acting like kids.
I remember the wadded up paper bullets and rubber bands. We also had kids use a thumb tack and the end of a shoelace to make a dart they would then shoot with a straw. Not to mention many of us would take our pencil and try to imbed it in the ceiling tile (music room with a 40 foot high ceiling had as many as 20 pencils lodged in it at once, funny to look at).
Worst thing that happened to any of us was a Saturday school. And by the time we got to high school, everyone had grown out of that phase.
Making kids come in to school on a Saturday morning is far worse punishment than an out of school suspension. They could have suspended me for a month and I would still make the honor roll.
Speaking of birds, while folding my laundry last night I turned on "America's Funniest Home Videos". One clip showed a bird grab a chunck of bread off the dock. It then crumbled the bread and dropped it into the water. When the fish came up to feed on the bread, it snatched one of the fish.
I was amazed. I've never had a dog or cat pass up a potential snack (the bread) because they knew they could catch a meal (fish) with it. Dogs will eat anything they cross paths with. Cats will either eat it or ignore it if not hungry.
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What about a bullet hole? Reading the news today, seems like a likely event.
Touch screen keyboards will be just as popular as the "touch screen" keyboards.. like the one in the movie 'Big'
Yeah, the orignal post was a little bit on the sensationalist side.. isn't it :). I told the tech that it makes no sense to me why I have to buy an upgrade and I did say it in a stern tone that was a bit louder than my normal conversational voice. I wasn't rolling around throwing a tantrum like a 2 year old :).
I'm not a Mac guy, I've been building my own PCs for the past 15 years. I had been using XP from launch until last August (when my mobo fried and decided to put Win 7 on my new computer). If MS stopped supporting IE for XP as soon as Vista came out, I would have been livid. I understand there comes a point then a company needs to cut ties with an OS.. but not in that short of a time frame.
I think the entire point of me first commenting in this thread was to voice my displease with out Apple does OS updates. A new version every year or two that is basically the equivilent of a service pack from MS, but Apple makes you pay for it. There is already an premium on Apple products to begin with, the small updates should be free.
But that's just my opinion and it's one of the reasons I don't plan on buying a macbook of my own.
That's the one I was following. I did play on their server for about a month, even got 5 old guild mates to come back as well. It was fun, but with us all being about a decade older with more going on in life, it was hard getting more than 2 people online at once. Not sure if they have put the housing back in yet, but that was one thing that was sorely missing last time I was logged in. They did give us speeder bikes, which was a god send.
Not my laptop, it is my fiancee's. She's not a computer person at all and I almost never use Macs. I tried to upgrade safari, install firefox and I think I also tried opera... but nothing would work.
We were willing to pay a fee for them to work on the computer (thinking it was some setting we messed up). When I was told the reason it no longer worked and what the only solution was, I said that it was unacceptable. The tech at the store almost seemed amazed someone was using a laptop that was 6 years old.
I do a lot of negotiating at work... often it requires compromises. My fiancee gave Apple $2000 for her macbook, in turn Apple should make sure it 'just works' for something basic like browsing the internet. I didn't go into the store wanting a new OS, I wanted her laptop to be able to get on the web. I didn't have to do much to convince the manager that all we wanted was for it to work, he's the one that suggested they would go ahead and upgrade the OS and safari for us.
I think it's perfectly resonable to expect a 6 year old OS to be able to handle current browsers. I can understand if they don't want to support 3rd party browsers, but I don't understand why I couldn't upgrade safari.
I still remember how much fun SWG was, but when they implemented the "combat upgrade" they completely ruined the game. I loved the SWG economy and player cities. No other game I ever tried came close to replicating what SWG did (never tried Eve Online). Almost all the best gear is player created, and the best gear requires very rare material spawns that even the newest newbie can aquire if they know which planet the material is on. If you wanted nothing to do with combat, you could still have a very important role in the community. There was something for everyone. A friend of mine had fun being the town mayor and architect.
Before they ruined combat, the only downside to SWG was the lack of end game. Base raids were fun when both sides were somewhat even (almost never happened) and there were just a couple instances to run.
A group has been working on re creating the orignal SWG (haven't check on the project since last spring), but I would play it again in a heartbeat.
Why, because I didn't bend over and take one in the butt from Steve Jobs? I'm sorry but their way of handling their software practically disabled my fiancee's laptop. Can you imagine if Microsoft told XP users that their computers could not use IE7 or IE8 and that their choice was to use IE6 for the rest of time or to buy a copy of Windows 7? We're not talking about a laptop from the 90s, it was bought in the '04-'05 time frame.
I'm old enough to have been screwed over by companies enough for me to learn a lesson. They will continue to take advantage of you until you fight back. Never take anything at face value. Ask questions and if their answers don't clarify the situation, talk to a manager. If you've been a customer for long enough, you deserve something back.
The complaint was "Her laptop can't browse the internet and I can't seem to upgrade the browser (safari) or install a new browser (firefox)".
Their answer "Unfortunately your OS is old and there is no way for it to run the latest version of safari which would allow you to use the internet. The only fix is to upgrade to the newest OS for $40"
Me "There's nothing wrong with the current OS, why do I have to be forced to upgrade to a new OS in order to keep functionality of this laptop?"
About then is when the manager came over and I explained that it seemed pretty stupid that her laptop no longer was able to surf the internet. I wasn't yelling in the store, but I wasn't using my library voice either.
My fiancee has a 6 year old macbook. About 2 years ago a few websites stopped working for her, then a few more, until just about everything didn't work as intended. The OS could not run the latest browsers, including Safari. Only thing that would fix the problem was upgrading to the latest Apple OS... after enough complaints to the manager at the apple store (which I did in a loud manner, on the floor, where it was crowded) I get a free upgrade.
So it seems to me Apple is already doing this sort of thing.
So what metrics made it the best? I thought my 1st gen nano was a waste of money (not to say all their ipods were garbage, but the one I got should have cost 1/2 of what they sold it for)
Yes, "probably". I'm not an expert on judge/jury relationships so I cannot say, with 100% confidence, what the foreman's correct course of action should have been.
It wasn't cited, the jury foreman was unsure of a specific phrase and used wikipedia to look it up. Honest mistake. Her proper course of action probably would have been to ask the judge to provide some literature about it instead of going out on her own to get it.
I would never cite wikipedia, but it is still an effective tool while doing research.
Watched it on tv last week... still shake my head when I see the "editing" that makes it appear he tried to dodge the shot.
I'd be more than ok for the government to reduce it's waste and use the tax money already being collected towards basic health care for all. We all know how much waste medicare and medicaid have. Tighten the belt on those and a few other big ticket items (military spending, ahem) and voila, basic care for all. Also do something to reduce the operating costs of doctors. While my copay is $20, I went to the doc the other week basically to make sure my meds were working as intended... $130 cost for 10 minutes with the doctor, a prescription refill, and 20 minutes of staring at the wall in the exam room by myself.
And costs will continue to sky rocket until we, as a society, understand that doctors are humans that occasionally make a mistake. Doctors either have to charge an arm and a leg to cover their own insurance costs of practicing or they just shy away from the higher risk areas.
We've made our own bed, time to lie in it.
A big part about being a humanoid is having 2 legs. Not sure how they can claim it as the most advanced humanoid robot when it's only half a humanoid.
It was a scare tactic to get the guy to stop calling off work on Fridays when he was obviously not sick. In my office we don't have sick days... if you're sick, you're sick. You stay home and are expected to log in to your laptop and at least be checking email every few hours. The guy was abusing the trust the employer has in us, calling in 1 or 2 Friday's a month so he could drive up to his hometown in a neighboring state for a longer weekend. I'm glad someone said something to him, I don't want them to create a policy with a fixed number of sick days or being forced to not get paid for when I'm out sick. It only takes 1 bad apple to ruin it for everyone else.
If you're out 1 day, they aren't going to send someone after you. But if you make a habit of being out (like always being sick on a Monday or Friday), they have a right to be suspicious. I know someone that would call in sick at least 1 Friday a month. The manager confronted ther person and asked them to bring in a dr. note from then on. Amazingly no more Friday sick days.
If that type of behavior is tolerated, the company will lose much more in lost productivity.
Is it surprising a male (assumption) macbook user had sperm on the mind? ;)
(who needs karma anyway!)
I saw 4 Volts driving south on I-75 in Ohio on Wednesday, they were moving along at a pretty good pace (70-75mph). Far enough from Detroit that they were probably testing the gas engine.
But more on topic, I think the Volt is a good step forward but even if it is selling at a loss, it's too expensive for what the vehicle offers. It's not a big car (smaller than my TSX, which admittedly doesn't have much room in the back for adults), looks like it would be cramped for anyone in the back seat. $40,000 is a big price tag for a car that is designed for city commuting. What happens in 2-3 years when the battery doesn't have the same capacity as it did brand new? Regardless of what they say you can get out of it, we all know batteries almost never live up to expectation. Who is going to be happy about paying $5000 for a new car battery?
Or the teachers give the kids detention... which is what happened to me when I did such things in the 5th-8th grade age range.
Boys will be boys, I don't think those types of activities necessarily reflect poor parenting. Now if they were going around threatening to stab people... yes, that's a real issue.
Take away a recess or make the kids stay late to clean up the class room. Talk to the parent at the next P/T conference. Don't make a big deal about kids acting like kids.
I remember the wadded up paper bullets and rubber bands. We also had kids use a thumb tack and the end of a shoelace to make a dart they would then shoot with a straw. Not to mention many of us would take our pencil and try to imbed it in the ceiling tile (music room with a 40 foot high ceiling had as many as 20 pencils lodged in it at once, funny to look at).
Worst thing that happened to any of us was a Saturday school. And by the time we got to high school, everyone had grown out of that phase.
Making kids come in to school on a Saturday morning is far worse punishment than an out of school suspension. They could have suspended me for a month and I would still make the honor roll.
My mom had to pay someone to put her sewing machine back together after I was left alone with it for about 20 minutes at 3 years of age... twice.
No point in take the leg off a chair, just use the entire chair as a weapon.
Speaking of birds, while folding my laundry last night I turned on "America's Funniest Home Videos". One clip showed a bird grab a chunck of bread off the dock. It then crumbled the bread and dropped it into the water. When the fish came up to feed on the bread, it snatched one of the fish.
I was amazed. I've never had a dog or cat pass up a potential snack (the bread) because they knew they could catch a meal (fish) with it. Dogs will eat anything they cross paths with. Cats will either eat it or ignore it if not hungry.