What will the industry learn? That it can't stop a few pirates who weren't buying the games anyway, but they can scare the general public into not breaking the law?
You guys always act like this sort of shit kills companies but you utterly miss the fact that 99.9999% of the population doesn't give a flying fuck about nerd rage against the machine.
From your perspective, Sony lost. From their perspective, they won.
As long as it stays a relatively low occurrence crime committed by a tiny select few of the population that weren't going to give them money anyway, they've won by getting exactly what they wanted, and you've lost because your self righteousness causes you to limit your available options so you can 'show them'.
Either way, I doubt Sony will notice the slashdot rage.
As a general rule, Google lowers the rank of less reputable sites on its own.
Its rare that you'll find a pirate site in front of the real download on Google unless you specifically search for something like 'crack' or 'torrent' since Googles algorithms tend to take notice of who links where and such.
If a pirated version shows up before you on google, you must not have a website.
Okays, so its not free, you have to pay them for the effort to put into it like you have to pay the farmers you get your food from.
Like wise, they aren't giving you the original method to their madness so you can't recreate it... just like a farmer doesn't give you their process either when you eat a potato.
So being that pretty much EVERYTHING in the world works this way, what exactly are you saying? You treat software different than the way you do everything else in your life, and we're supposed to be impressed because you're a self righteous idiot that practically defines the word hypocrite?
Yes, I think it is entirely possible that something related to teaching may have the word book in its domain name.
It is infact pretty common for teachers to use books.
It honestly took me a second to realize the problem was 'book' in the name. teachbook seems to make complete sense for teachers, regardless of facebook.com.
Yes, I think its pretty likely there would be a teachbook without a facebook. Just like cookbook, yearbook, textbook, rulebook and every other common way to combine book with something else that existed long before facebook started ripping off other peoples ideas. You know whats even crazier... FACEBOOK IS ANOTHER NAME FOR YEARBOOK THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR 50 YEARS.
Facebook isn't an original name in the least, when you pick your name using an existing generic term for something, you have to 'protection' rights because you're stupid.
I doubt $100k worth of computing power is nearly enough for what they need. The bullshit they do while 'calculating' mortgages and deciding which ones to buy this week so they can sell them next week requires a lot of CPU time.
The computer doesn't handle just calculating simple interest and billing, it has to figure out how to manage to scam you and everyone else out of as much money as possible without providing anything of value, and that is hard work.
Yes, except they know what change to look for that means 'you've been activated' that pretty much everyone else will ignore or not notice.
Just because it appears to be the same message broadcasting over and over again doesn't mean it is, it just means you haven't noticed a change. That doesn't mean the intended recipient didn't notice the signal, just that you didn't.
Perhaps you should smoke a little bit of some good green nuggets of history.
Helicopters were not invented in the last 100 years, only made practical and viable. da Vinci is a well know example of an engineer who attempted to build helicopters. And yes, they even got some of them in the air, even if not for long enough to actually matter.
Also you might disguise your young age a bit better if you didn't swear every paragraph.
Or he is Irish, or he just likes to cuss.
I'm 33 and cuss in writing all the time, does that make me immature for doing it... or you immature for focusing on the cussing and missing the point of the message?
Seems to me if you were so mature you could simply ignore the cussing and move on.
Ironic isn't it... most of your post telling him what to do is advice you should take yourself. You guys would make a cute couple.
So its fairly clear you have no fucking clue what Terry Childs did.
He started his egotistical bullshit because he was being transferred to another department. If you bothered to find out any details of his case rather than warshiping him blindly like the son of god, you'd know that there was never a point where he was doing the right thing, and it becomes clear that everything he did was a power play where he was trying to show everyone else he was in control and they couldn't do anything to him.
It in no way sounded like he was being fired, he was in fact going to be responsible for a lot of the exact same equipment. The fact that he was ignoring city policy (by not putting the information in the cities configuration and password management system) is what got him fucked when he was asked to actually do so.
Either stop talking about Childs or get a fucking clue about what actually happened, you'll look like far less of a moron that way.
The app can verify the signer is the original author and not load it. You make some sort of general localized signer that will pass the 'trust' test for every binary so the user can override it as needed, like to replace a DLL with their own hacked version.
Give some sort of way to disable the signing check on a per app basis, that has to be done by the user, probably via UAC. Don't give any way to disable it globally or any way that it can be automated.
People will still be able to do all they need to do, but apps will have to be signed or they'll be too much of a pain in the ass for users to waste their time on them, and in a pinch you CAN still get around it.
Of course, all of this is just to protect users from themselves essentially since by the time you've got someone loading EXEs from untrusted sources, there are probably easier ways to have you're way with them.
The real problem is that you can't easily modify the library search path at run time, so including the current working directory is a convenent way to deal with that problem on a limited scale. I know I've written plenty of applications that do just that.
On OSX its far worse out of the box with XCode, which has a tendency to use linker flags that specify EXACTLY where a library will be, which is a retarded thing considering the way that OSX application bundles work out of the box. You have to physically modify libraries in order to get them to load from someplace other than where they were compiled to end up (by default, this can be changed).
Other OSes are less relevant to the discussion since you build most of your apps from source, which is a far bigger issue than DLL Hell.
If Windows or OSX both let you modify the search path, in the application, at runtime, the use of cwd at load time on Windows could be replaced with something like @loader_path from OS X 10.5. by default, and applications could update their search path as needed at runtime.
An app can specify where to look when using LoadLibrary/dlopen, why is there no easy way to modify the damn search path at runtime.
So you're running code from a compromised share... and you're worrying about DLL's you load from that share as well?
Look, reality check... they'll just fuck with the EXE directly instead of waiting for something to load the DLL. Why go in through the back door when the front door is open first and otherwise offers no differences.
You do realize that people wouldn't intentionally set off the alert... right, and that your test was just blowing smoke...
I've I'm writing something to attack your SELinux box, I'm going to do everything in my power to not trigger any sort of detection software.
Its retarded to say 'I know I'm safe, I TESTED IT!' when talking about security and/or viruses. You tested a known attack vector, which pretty much everyone handles. Its the UNKNOWN ones that you can neither test for nor ensure you are secure against.
A proper virus or malware would ensure you didn't get notified, the only ones you get notified about are the ones that failed.
I'm trolling but... how sad is it that you missed the experience with OpenSolaris, that no doubt would have been useful to you just from learning about a different way of doing things... and the only reason was because the license wasn't GPL compatible.
Thats pretty sad.
You probably are better off for not trying OpenSolaris at this point, it sucks, but still, you completely ignore things because your license is so restrictive? CDDL doesn't prevent you from using their code, GPL prevents you from using CDDL code. I just can understand how you can be such a tool and not realize it, let me guess, you're a goth too, right?
If this was modded funny, I'd let it go but um, ZFS in FreeBSD has been considered production ready by most for a while now, and officially so since 8.0 was released.
Ports are used by at least 4 BSD based releases that I know of, it works, of course, theres also packages too if you don't want to build the apps.
You do realize there have been 4 releases since 7.1 right? 7.1 was released in Jan 09...
FreeBSD has dtrace, jails and I don't know to what level FBSD has support for BrandZ type features, it was just starting out last I looked a few years ago, I don't use jails for much though so I'm probably just out of date.
Uhm, FreeBSD is fully capable of exporting zvols via iSCSI, I don't think dedup is in yet, and if solaris just got differential filesystem snapshots (I'll have to figure out what that is considering how snapshots work in the first place) so you got something there, I want dedup too, I could drop compression in favor of dedup and get far better performance but otherwise ZFS on FreeBSD with sufficient ram works great. RAM is the key though isn't it.
Its a school, not the olympics. If they are building an olympic QUALITY pool for k-12 then its bad because its retarded to put a top of the top of the line pool into a facility thats going to see the public, i.e. average. Its a waste of money.
If its not an olympic quality pool... its a waste of money.
It doesn't even freaking MATTER what the quality is, its a school for average students, not sports training club for the elite athletes of the area... or its not supposed to be anyway.
I frankly don't give a shit how much technology can go into a swimming pool, I'm fairly sure no one at that school could point out the difference between a painted cement hole in the ground and whatever creation you're talking about.
The problem is, you don't realize that there isn't anything in OSS that really competes with MS when it comes to home users.
You may shoehorn your friends and family into running Linux, but you didnt' really do them a favor and just because they don't bitch at you doesn't mean they like it.
Microsoft likes OSS software because it sets the bar incredible low. Its not an insult, its just reality. Most people try something OSS, get tired of having to look all over the Internet just to get it to START working, let alone fix some annoying attribute of it and go back to MS because as much as it suck, it sucks less than the alternatives.
Does msdn.microsoft.com share the same one (I'm too lazy to look) because thats pretty much the only site I visit EVERY day, looking up documentation for various things. I'm betting a lot of techies spend time on MS.com everyday for the same sort of thing.
Though, I doubt it should make that much of an impression compared to all the other non-techies out there.
Considering they only really use the 16x16 icon in the file, its really retarded to say it supports 'better' formats. If you're putting anything other than a 16x16x256 icon in your favicon.ico then you're just wasting bandwidth, all other formats will be ignored anyway.
The.ICO format is while perfectly usable, still out of date and offers no advantage over other icon formats which use more sane image qualities like real transparency.
For a favicon, 16x16x256 is as high as you're ever going to use. No sense using more colors since there are only 256 pixels to work with, you get a custom color for each pixel ANYWAY at 16x16x256.
On the flipside, with png you have support for real transparency which icons do not have, so thats a bonus, but not enough of a bonus to justify using it since... transparency is really a little silly for something that is invariable going to sit on a white background anyway (I don't care about the random nutjobs that with ridiculous color schemes on their machines, they've clearly got no taste or understanding about designing color schemes so theres no help for them anyway)
All in all, its kind of stupid to be arguing over which is 'better' for this particular case since both formats FAR exceed the requirements for the job..ico wins because thats what everyone expects and theres no compelling reason to change it.
Apple wants higher quality because they use the 'icon' in more places than just the title bar and tiny lines on a 'bookmarks menu'. It turns into a much larger home screen icon if you add the bookmark to your home screen for instance.
The choices are: Not die because its not an emergency, which would be the majority of the calls and go bankrupt because you're a fucking moron who cried wolf. OR.... survive and owe a bunch of people for the effort they put into getting you out of somewhere you were too stupid to realize you didn't belong.
Get an alarm number with someone answering the phone who judges how serious the siuation is.
You have no fucking clue how emergency services work. You can't JUDGE OVER THE PHONE, they will almost certainly dispatch someone ANYWAY JUST TO MAKE SURE, just like most 911 calls get a police offices dispatched regardless of what you tell them when you call.
The very first time someone died because the situation didn't seem like a true emergency, they guy who made that choice is going to hate himself for life, everyone is going to bitch about how the NPS should have went anyway.
You can't make emergency numbers optional, when you get an emergency call you treat it like a real emergency, and when it isn't, you punish the fucking retards who called you. Severely, it is entirely possible (there are many recorded cases of this happening) that someone else could die because of the person who cried wolf.
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Because when you bought the gun parts, you didn't agree to use them in a specific way, as the owner dictates.
When you buy a Sony product, you do agree to play be the rules they dictate.
Theres nothing wrong with the planet or the laws, only the people walking on it who keep buying things they don't like.
What will the industry learn? That it can't stop a few pirates who weren't buying the games anyway, but they can scare the general public into not breaking the law?
You guys always act like this sort of shit kills companies but you utterly miss the fact that 99.9999% of the population doesn't give a flying fuck about nerd rage against the machine.
From your perspective, Sony lost. From their perspective, they won.
As long as it stays a relatively low occurrence crime committed by a tiny select few of the population that weren't going to give them money anyway, they've won by getting exactly what they wanted, and you've lost because your self righteousness causes you to limit your available options so you can 'show them'.
Either way, I doubt Sony will notice the slashdot rage.
As a general rule, Google lowers the rank of less reputable sites on its own.
Its rare that you'll find a pirate site in front of the real download on Google unless you specifically search for something like 'crack' or 'torrent' since Googles algorithms tend to take notice of who links where and such.
If a pirated version shows up before you on google, you must not have a website.
Why? Because they benefit from the work they did making it?
OMG SOMEONE IS MAKING MONEY THAT SHIT MUST END NOW!!@$!@$ GPL4LIFE!@$!@$
Do you realize how stupid you make yourself look?
Whats your point exactly?
Okays, so its not free, you have to pay them for the effort to put into it like you have to pay the farmers you get your food from.
Like wise, they aren't giving you the original method to their madness so you can't recreate it ... just like a farmer doesn't give you their process either when you eat a potato.
So being that pretty much EVERYTHING in the world works this way, what exactly are you saying? You treat software different than the way you do everything else in your life, and we're supposed to be impressed because you're a self righteous idiot that practically defines the word hypocrite?
Yes, I think it is entirely possible that something related to teaching may have the word book in its domain name.
It is infact pretty common for teachers to use books.
It honestly took me a second to realize the problem was 'book' in the name. teachbook seems to make complete sense for teachers, regardless of facebook.com.
Yes, I think its pretty likely there would be a teachbook without a facebook. Just like cookbook, yearbook, textbook, rulebook and every other common way to combine book with something else that existed long before facebook started ripping off other peoples ideas. You know whats even crazier ... FACEBOOK IS ANOTHER NAME FOR YEARBOOK THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR 50 YEARS.
Facebook isn't an original name in the least, when you pick your name using an existing generic term for something, you have to 'protection' rights because you're stupid.
I take it you haven't taken out a mortgage.
I doubt $100k worth of computing power is nearly enough for what they need. The bullshit they do while 'calculating' mortgages and deciding which ones to buy this week so they can sell them next week requires a lot of CPU time.
The computer doesn't handle just calculating simple interest and billing, it has to figure out how to manage to scam you and everyone else out of as much money as possible without providing anything of value, and that is hard work.
Yes, except they know what change to look for that means 'you've been activated' that pretty much everyone else will ignore or not notice.
Just because it appears to be the same message broadcasting over and over again doesn't mean it is, it just means you haven't noticed a change. That doesn't mean the intended recipient didn't notice the signal, just that you didn't.
Perhaps you should smoke a little bit of some good green nuggets of history.
Helicopters were not invented in the last 100 years, only made practical and viable. da Vinci is a well know example of an engineer who attempted to build helicopters. And yes, they even got some of them in the air, even if not for long enough to actually matter.
Too bad you don't realize that both Falcons and Eagles are raptors, as are every other bird of pray ... considering raptor means 'bird of pray'.
Stop watching Jurassic Park and thinking it uses proper terminology.
Well, if you believed in making everything too dark as well, then I'd say iD has a opening for you.
Yes, because the fact that no one was actually trying to find a back door back then might have something to do with it.
Hiding something in plain site is only impressive once people realize their supposed to be trying to find it.
It wasn't till after that event that people actually stopped thinking of all code as 'trusted' code and started actually looking at what things did.
Ken Thompsons Sendmail back door wasn't impressive, no one was looking for it.
Or he is Irish, or he just likes to cuss.
I'm 33 and cuss in writing all the time, does that make me immature for doing it ... or you immature for focusing on the cussing and missing the point of the message?
Seems to me if you were so mature you could simply ignore the cussing and move on.
Ironic isn't it ... most of your post telling him what to do is advice you should take yourself. You guys would make a cute couple.
So its fairly clear you have no fucking clue what Terry Childs did.
He started his egotistical bullshit because he was being transferred to another department. If you bothered to find out any details of his case rather than warshiping him blindly like the son of god, you'd know that there was never a point where he was doing the right thing, and it becomes clear that everything he did was a power play where he was trying to show everyone else he was in control and they couldn't do anything to him.
It in no way sounded like he was being fired, he was in fact going to be responsible for a lot of the exact same equipment. The fact that he was ignoring city policy (by not putting the information in the cities configuration and password management system) is what got him fucked when he was asked to actually do so.
Either stop talking about Childs or get a fucking clue about what actually happened, you'll look like far less of a moron that way.
Signed binaries.
The app can verify the signer is the original author and not load it. You make some sort of general localized signer that will pass the 'trust' test for every binary so the user can override it as needed, like to replace a DLL with their own hacked version.
Give some sort of way to disable the signing check on a per app basis, that has to be done by the user, probably via UAC. Don't give any way to disable it globally or any way that it can be automated.
People will still be able to do all they need to do, but apps will have to be signed or they'll be too much of a pain in the ass for users to waste their time on them, and in a pinch you CAN still get around it.
Of course, all of this is just to protect users from themselves essentially since by the time you've got someone loading EXEs from untrusted sources, there are probably easier ways to have you're way with them.
The real problem is that you can't easily modify the library search path at run time, so including the current working directory is a convenent way to deal with that problem on a limited scale. I know I've written plenty of applications that do just that.
On OSX its far worse out of the box with XCode, which has a tendency to use linker flags that specify EXACTLY where a library will be, which is a retarded thing considering the way that OSX application bundles work out of the box. You have to physically modify libraries in order to get them to load from someplace other than where they were compiled to end up (by default, this can be changed).
Other OSes are less relevant to the discussion since you build most of your apps from source, which is a far bigger issue than DLL Hell.
If Windows or OSX both let you modify the search path, in the application, at runtime, the use of cwd at load time on Windows could be replaced with something like @loader_path from OS X 10.5. by default, and applications could update their search path as needed at runtime.
An app can specify where to look when using LoadLibrary/dlopen, why is there no easy way to modify the damn search path at runtime.
So you're running code from a compromised share ... and you're worrying about DLL's you load from that share as well?
Look, reality check ... they'll just fuck with the EXE directly instead of waiting for something to load the DLL. Why go in through the back door when the front door is open first and otherwise offers no differences.
You do realize that people wouldn't intentionally set off the alert ... right, and that your test was just blowing smoke ...
I've I'm writing something to attack your SELinux box, I'm going to do everything in my power to not trigger any sort of detection software.
Its retarded to say 'I know I'm safe, I TESTED IT!' when talking about security and/or viruses. You tested a known attack vector, which pretty much everyone handles. Its the UNKNOWN ones that you can neither test for nor ensure you are secure against.
A proper virus or malware would ensure you didn't get notified, the only ones you get notified about are the ones that failed.
I'm trolling but ... how sad is it that you missed the experience with OpenSolaris, that no doubt would have been useful to you just from learning about a different way of doing things ... and the only reason was because the license wasn't GPL compatible.
Thats pretty sad.
You probably are better off for not trying OpenSolaris at this point, it sucks, but still, you completely ignore things because your license is so restrictive? CDDL doesn't prevent you from using their code, GPL prevents you from using CDDL code. I just can understand how you can be such a tool and not realize it, let me guess, you're a goth too, right?
If this was modded funny, I'd let it go but um, ZFS in FreeBSD has been considered production ready by most for a while now, and officially so since 8.0 was released.
Ports are used by at least 4 BSD based releases that I know of, it works, of course, theres also packages too if you don't want to build the apps.
You do realize there have been 4 releases since 7.1 right? 7.1 was released in Jan 09 ...
FreeBSD has dtrace, jails and I don't know to what level FBSD has support for BrandZ type features, it was just starting out last I looked a few years ago, I don't use jails for much though so I'm probably just out of date.
Uhm, FreeBSD is fully capable of exporting zvols via iSCSI, I don't think dedup is in yet, and if solaris just got differential filesystem snapshots (I'll have to figure out what that is considering how snapshots work in the first place) so you got something there, I want dedup too, I could drop compression in favor of dedup and get far better performance but otherwise ZFS on FreeBSD with sufficient ram works great. RAM is the key though isn't it.
Shit, I just got trolled didn't I?
Its a school, not the olympics. If they are building an olympic QUALITY pool for k-12 then its bad because its retarded to put a top of the top of the line pool into a facility thats going to see the public, i.e. average. Its a waste of money.
If its not an olympic quality pool ... its a waste of money.
It doesn't even freaking MATTER what the quality is, its a school for average students, not sports training club for the elite athletes of the area ... or its not supposed to be anyway.
I frankly don't give a shit how much technology can go into a swimming pool, I'm fairly sure no one at that school could point out the difference between a painted cement hole in the ground and whatever creation you're talking about.
The problem is, you don't realize that there isn't anything in OSS that really competes with MS when it comes to home users.
You may shoehorn your friends and family into running Linux, but you didnt' really do them a favor and just because they don't bitch at you doesn't mean they like it.
Microsoft likes OSS software because it sets the bar incredible low. Its not an insult, its just reality. Most people try something OSS, get tired of having to look all over the Internet just to get it to START working, let alone fix some annoying attribute of it and go back to MS because as much as it suck, it sucks less than the alternatives.
Estimated time till marked as troll: -15 seconds.
Does msdn.microsoft.com share the same one (I'm too lazy to look) because thats pretty much the only site I visit EVERY day, looking up documentation for various things. I'm betting a lot of techies spend time on MS.com everyday for the same sort of thing.
Though, I doubt it should make that much of an impression compared to all the other non-techies out there.
Considering they only really use the 16x16 icon in the file, its really retarded to say it supports 'better' formats. If you're putting anything other than a 16x16x256 icon in your favicon.ico then you're just wasting bandwidth, all other formats will be ignored anyway.
The .ICO format is while perfectly usable, still out of date and offers no advantage over other icon formats which use more sane image qualities like real transparency.
For a favicon, 16x16x256 is as high as you're ever going to use. No sense using more colors since there are only 256 pixels to work with, you get a custom color for each pixel ANYWAY at 16x16x256.
On the flipside, with png you have support for real transparency which icons do not have, so thats a bonus, but not enough of a bonus to justify using it since ... transparency is really a little silly for something that is invariable going to sit on a white background anyway (I don't care about the random nutjobs that with ridiculous color schemes on their machines, they've clearly got no taste or understanding about designing color schemes so theres no help for them anyway)
All in all, its kind of stupid to be arguing over which is 'better' for this particular case since both formats FAR exceed the requirements for the job. .ico wins because thats what everyone expects and theres no compelling reason to change it.
Apple wants higher quality because they use the 'icon' in more places than just the title bar and tiny lines on a 'bookmarks menu'. It turns into a much larger home screen icon if you add the bookmark to your home screen for instance.
Thats a stupid argument.
The choices are not: Die or go bankrupt
The choices are: Not die because its not an emergency, which would be the majority of the calls and go bankrupt because you're a fucking moron who cried wolf. OR .... survive and owe a bunch of people for the effort they put into getting you out of somewhere you were too stupid to realize you didn't belong.
You have no fucking clue how emergency services work. You can't JUDGE OVER THE PHONE, they will almost certainly dispatch someone ANYWAY JUST TO MAKE SURE, just like most 911 calls get a police offices dispatched regardless of what you tell them when you call.
The very first time someone died because the situation didn't seem like a true emergency, they guy who made that choice is going to hate himself for life, everyone is going to bitch about how the NPS should have went anyway.
You can't make emergency numbers optional, when you get an emergency call you treat it like a real emergency, and when it isn't, you punish the fucking retards who called you. Severely, it is entirely possible (there are many recorded cases of this happening) that someone else could die because of the person who cried wolf.