So let me get this straight. You're comparing going for a picnic in a county park where the people can just get in their car and go home in 10 minutes to a bunch of morons hiking several miles into the desert without sufficient water and expertise to do what they are doing?
If the 'insurance' cost is proportional to the rescue cost than there is no problem. A rescue at your local park is going to be roughly the same as a rescue from your home. Its not going to cost 20-30K dollars and involve 5 to 10 other people risking their lives to come find out you don't like the taste of your water... while someone else actually DIEs because the rescue team was dispatched to deal with your retarded ass rather than being available to be dispatched to someone with a REAL emergency.
No one said no, they wouldn't help deal with the sick baby.
They didn't even ask. They did the work and THEN tried to collect payment.
They didn't say 'pay up or we're going to leave and you're on your own'.
What the fuck is wrong with YOU?
What the fuck is wrong with charging someone for services rendered? People die in hospitals, they wouldn't be there otherwise. They didn't refuse treatment because they couldn't pay or wouldn't pay. They rendered treatment, THEN asked to be paid for the work they did, and the only reason for not paying them is 'they couldn't save my child so all the time and resources that went into it should be my responsibility'.
If no one shoulders that responsibility... how many doctors do you think we'd have? If no one paid the EMT, or the nurses, or bought the vans or built the buildings... ALL THESE PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO EAT TOO, regardless of what happens to you.
You want to talk about anti-social attitude... is pushing your expenses off for someone else to pay rather than yourself not pretty fucking anti-social? So I guess the 'social' thing to do is for people to pay for everyone ELSEs medial problems... but no one pays for their own?
Again I ask, what the fuck is wrong with YOU? Are you retarded or something?
But that doesn't mean you don't have to pay the people who tried to help for their time. You would have bitched far louder if they didn't come, or you would rant about how they brought it up if they tried to get your okay before taking your child to the hospital.
They came, they tried to help and then later said 'heres your bill'.
They didn't come and say 'its going to cost you XXX up front, pay it if you want us to try to save your child, pay now or we'll let them die here'.
Its a medical bill, you know what you do? You pay $5/month for the rest of your life and thats the end of it, and the rest of us will pay for the services you got and haven't paid for.
If you were told you were going to get billed, would you have acted differently? If you answer yes, I'm pretty sure I'd put you in jail myself. Your baby needed emergancy help and you're bitching that you got it... because you have to pay for it.
If you don't pay for it, who does? Me?
If no one pays for it, how do you prevent random people from 'calling in an emergency' and using it for a free ride (and yes, it DOES happen) since the liquor store is only a few blocks from the hospital.
The system has no sympathy. Its a system of rules. People have sympathy.
Nothing bad is going to happen to you because you have outstanding medical bills as long as you pay something... you know why? Because we made the laws that way so people can survive as long as they make some half assed effort at paying for the medical services they've used. It won't ruin your credit, they won't come take your house away, you just have to make some sort of attempt, no matter how pathetic, at paying your bill.
The hospital will be happy to work out a payment plan, they will be HAPPY to work with you because unlike other 'credit' where they can come and do something to you to get their moneyback, medical bills are special and you're protected so that having medical issues doesn't ruin every aspect of your life.
We've already given you a way to deal with the situation, but you'll have to let the anger and pain from your loss subside first.
You're arguing that you're upset because you have to pay a bill for services rendered and... YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A CRIMINAL FOR NOT TRYING TO SAVE THE CHILDS LIFE.
Again, I'm sorry for your loss, I can not possible imagine the pain you went through, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give you a free ride because bad things happened to you.
If we gave free treatment to everyone who went to the hospital IF they had a bad experience than the only people paying medical bills would be people having children as there is no other time when you are at the hospital for a 'good' reason. Hospitals are places were bad things are going to happen unless the doctors get lucky and can fix you.
I hope you can move on with your life, and I'm sorry that you'll have this reminder hanging over your head, but would you really have given up the chance to save your childs life just so you wouldn't get a bill later? Personally, I'm pretty sure I would tell them whatever I had to tell them in order to save my childs life, and I'm pretty sure I would authorize any amount they put in my face on the spot if they asked.
Actually, the graphics card was what was supplying the heat in the first place.
I can run high end math on the CPU using OpenCL all day long with no heat, the video card on the other hand is a firecracker.
For instance, theres a n-Body particle simulator as an example for using OpenCL to compute on the various processors included in your computer. If you run it on the CPU only, turns about 6Gflops and never heats up at all. Switch to the high end graphics chip (my laptop has 2, or so it claims, one high end, one low end for secondary displays) and it'll heat up to too hot to touch within a few minutes, but it'll also turn out 40-45Gflops.
Mind you, the Gflops aren't a real benchmark and are only relative to the simulation as far as what the numbers mean, but the graphics card and more importantly, the spot where the graphics chips' heat sink touches the case would roast you before this recent update, now it doesn't.
My guess would be is that its not using the graphics silicon the way it was meant to be used, rather than using some other tricks to accomplish the workarounds for hardware lighting occlusion.
Its worth mentioning that the Apple update was followed on the heels with an update to the Mac EVE client. They may have simply switched to a much more efficient built in hardware method of accomplishing the task.
Its also possible that the two events are entirely unrelated, I don't really know.
You do realize it isn't the same today as it was 7 years ago... RIGHT?
You do realize they've had 2 major graphics rewrites since it started... RIGHT?
I highly doubt you could stand playing EVE with everything turned on with a card 7 years old. Unless you think those cards could handle HDR and the massive Bloom effects it uses.
EVE today is not EVE from 7 years ago. Neat thing about MMOs... they evolve over time. You mean to tell me that WoW has the exact same graphics engine as it did when it was released? If so I feel sorry for the WoW players.
In the true spirit of OSS, they packed up their bags, stuck out their tongues and said 'fuck it, we're done dealing with you guys, we're going home'... and thats perfectly within their rights.
It should be noted however, since they were about the only ones using OpenSolaris, no one is really going to notice they are gone.
Using OpenSolaris is roughly the same as running Darwin instead of OS X. Roughly, not really the same, but both are pretty much pathetic bases of the what the person actually WANTS to run, which is the full version. Anyone who would consider running OpenSolaris will just pay the tiny little fee and run the real deal which has slightly (not much mind you) more spit and polish on it.
OSX has a POSIX subsystem which could be targeted and would make a port to Linux much easier.
That said, the current OS X port of Steam requires a case sensitive filesystem to work because they don't know how to write code for shit.
With that constraint, about the only way you'll get Steam working in Linux is by putting it on a FAT filesystem and making a bunch of symlinks like you have to do on OS X to get it to work on a case-insensitive file system.
So while it might be close, and it might not be a hard port, Valve clearly lacks the quality coders required to work with something as simple as sorting filenames without changing them to all lower case first. With that in mind, its unlikely they'll be able to login to a Linux box to start writing the code, let alone actually producing anything that works.
Server room? Sure. Linux is more popular than Macs since Macs make pretty shitty servers from a cost perspective.
Desktop? Give me a break, the only people who use Linux desktops have businesses selling Linux. Plenty of businesses that don't sell Apple product use Macs.
I know 1 google employee that uses a Linux on his laptop... when it isn't booted into OS X, I know 7 or 8 admins that use Mac laptops to admin unix machines are large companies.
You also see macs all over Hollywood. You see macs all over the media industries like Newspapers (dead tree format and online), television and
Macs common on the desktop in general? Of course not, more common than Linux? Without any doubt what so ever.
You guys need some perspective from outside your basement, something from the real world might be useful. Its fine to want to support your favorite OS, but when you walk into some business with the sort of ignorance you have the only thing you're going to get is laughed at, especially when you walk in and the guys doing the hiring have Macs.
The problem is... Cleveland will still charge its customers $30 a ton and keep the $26 as well.
Perhaps instead of pumping out a bunch of smart trash cans to figure out who's been bad, they put the money into automatic sorting devices so the customer doesn't have to.
Or, give the customer some credit for recycling.
Rather than just figuring out new ways to bill the customer they could do something intelligent that would benefit the customer.
I'm pretty sure judging by your post that your life would bore me to death simply by reading your description of a bar.
For reference, generally when someone is so opposed to a common social construct such as a bar its generally a good indication that the fault lies with the person, not the construct.
As the spy agency for one of the most powerful countries in the world... Yea, I guess you could call it magic powers. They'd just have him disappear or kill him outright though and leave no reference that they were involved. It'd probably call it a lot of things other than magic, but yea, I can see how you'd think it was magic.
When are you guys going to get that 'a regular OS with all of its functionality'... isn't what works well on a phone, which is why people like the iPhone.
Stop trying to treat your phone like a desktop... or even a sub notebook and you'll be a lot happier AND more productive.
Okay, for reference, people with disabilities have... disabilities.
That means they can't do everything so where possible provisions are made to allow them to participate.
That said, they are disabled which means they can not do everything that people without disabilities can. The ADA doesn't require that provisions are made so that a paralyzed person can perform brain surgery or do construction work.
There are reasonable limits on what is expected. You don't have to make the web visible to a blind man because you can't, but since there are viable alternatives that are very cheap to implement you are recommended to implement them or required under certain fed programs.
The ADA simply wants reasonable efforts, not solving the impossible. You are not being reasonable.
Ahhh... idiots suggesting speed bumps... you know what happens when you put down speed bumps?
2 things... people don't want to drive there, so they avoid the area. Means all property values fall, residential or commercial because you've made the area less desirable to everyone.
Second, in between the speed bumps... you'll have a lot of pissed off people gunning it to spit you. They'll end up hitting some little kid because the kid wasn't working and they were blinded by rage because of your retarded speed bumps.
I'm sure you'll tell me how its the drivers fault for not controlling his rage... or the kid's fault for not looking... the end result is STILL a dead or mangled child.
Suggesting speed bumps as a solution to any problem is about like suggesting the cure to lung cancer is to stop breathing.
The one thing about the Linux userbase thats different than Windows and OSX crowds is that they don't usually expect everything to work out of the box.
Thats funny, since the battle cry for Linux is almost invariably 'Windows is broken out of the box' or 'We're better than Windows'.
I know, I'll get marked as a Troll instantly... but really, do you guys hear what you say when you make these comments? Linux users expect their OS to not work right... except when you point this out as a reason for something else, they'll be 100,000 fanboys saying that the statement is wrong, or that its a feature or god knows whatever silly excuse seems to fit the bill.
Always talking about Windows being inferior and never realizing exactly why no one bothers to give Linux the time of day... you even here are saying it like its a good thing that Linux users expect shit to be broken from the start...
I really can't understand why you guys are so fascinated with it. I mean, I get liking Unix, it has its place but its not the only solution out there, yet no matter WHAT happens, you guys seem to keep thinking it is.
Even Windows admins aren't that retarded enough to think its the end all be all solution.
And no, just because you can login and open the ActiveDirectory manager doesn't make you a Windows admin and more than having root makes you a Unix admin.
Yea, but thats only cause the drug companies will bury it for the next 100 years, it'll eventually become public when some high school kid cobbles together enough info and publishes it before someone realizes they need to buy him off.
I'm fully aware of that, I'm also fully aware that CDMA is not WCDMA and vice versus. If there were the same thing they'd not have different names and different pages would they?
You and the original poster seem to think WCDMA and CDMA are the same thing. They aren't, thats why we call them different names.
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So let me get this straight. You're comparing going for a picnic in a county park where the people can just get in their car and go home in 10 minutes to a bunch of morons hiking several miles into the desert without sufficient water and expertise to do what they are doing?
If the 'insurance' cost is proportional to the rescue cost than there is no problem. A rescue at your local park is going to be roughly the same as a rescue from your home. Its not going to cost 20-30K dollars and involve 5 to 10 other people risking their lives to come find out you don't like the taste of your water ... while someone else actually DIEs because the rescue team was dispatched to deal with your retarded ass rather than being available to be dispatched to someone with a REAL emergency.
No one said no, they wouldn't help deal with the sick baby.
They didn't even ask. They did the work and THEN tried to collect payment.
They didn't say 'pay up or we're going to leave and you're on your own'.
What the fuck is wrong with YOU?
What the fuck is wrong with charging someone for services rendered? People die in hospitals, they wouldn't be there otherwise. They didn't refuse treatment because they couldn't pay or wouldn't pay. They rendered treatment, THEN asked to be paid for the work they did, and the only reason for not paying them is 'they couldn't save my child so all the time and resources that went into it should be my responsibility'.
If no one shoulders that responsibility ... how many doctors do you think we'd have? If no one paid the EMT, or the nurses, or bought the vans or built the buildings ... ALL THESE PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO EAT TOO, regardless of what happens to you.
You want to talk about anti-social attitude ... is pushing your expenses off for someone else to pay rather than yourself not pretty fucking anti-social? So I guess the 'social' thing to do is for people to pay for everyone ELSEs medial problems ... but no one pays for their own?
Again I ask, what the fuck is wrong with YOU? Are you retarded or something?
You were angry they did their job?
I'm sorry you lost your child, I really am.
But that doesn't mean you don't have to pay the people who tried to help for their time. You would have bitched far louder if they didn't come, or you would rant about how they brought it up if they tried to get your okay before taking your child to the hospital.
They came, they tried to help and then later said 'heres your bill'.
They didn't come and say 'its going to cost you XXX up front, pay it if you want us to try to save your child, pay now or we'll let them die here'.
Its a medical bill, you know what you do? You pay $5/month for the rest of your life and thats the end of it, and the rest of us will pay for the services you got and haven't paid for.
If you were told you were going to get billed, would you have acted differently? If you answer yes, I'm pretty sure I'd put you in jail myself. Your baby needed emergancy help and you're bitching that you got it ... because you have to pay for it.
If you don't pay for it, who does? Me?
If no one pays for it, how do you prevent random people from 'calling in an emergency' and using it for a free ride (and yes, it DOES happen) since the liquor store is only a few blocks from the hospital.
The system has no sympathy. Its a system of rules. People have sympathy.
Nothing bad is going to happen to you because you have outstanding medical bills as long as you pay something ... you know why? Because we made the laws that way so people can survive as long as they make some half assed effort at paying for the medical services they've used. It won't ruin your credit, they won't come take your house away, you just have to make some sort of attempt, no matter how pathetic, at paying your bill.
The hospital will be happy to work out a payment plan, they will be HAPPY to work with you because unlike other 'credit' where they can come and do something to you to get their moneyback, medical bills are special and you're protected so that having medical issues doesn't ruin every aspect of your life.
We've already given you a way to deal with the situation, but you'll have to let the anger and pain from your loss subside first.
You're arguing that you're upset because you have to pay a bill for services rendered and ... YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A CRIMINAL FOR NOT TRYING TO SAVE THE CHILDS LIFE.
Again, I'm sorry for your loss, I can not possible imagine the pain you went through, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give you a free ride because bad things happened to you.
If we gave free treatment to everyone who went to the hospital IF they had a bad experience than the only people paying medical bills would be people having children as there is no other time when you are at the hospital for a 'good' reason. Hospitals are places were bad things are going to happen unless the doctors get lucky and can fix you.
I hope you can move on with your life, and I'm sorry that you'll have this reminder hanging over your head, but would you really have given up the chance to save your childs life just so you wouldn't get a bill later? Personally, I'm pretty sure I would tell them whatever I had to tell them in order to save my childs life, and I'm pretty sure I would authorize any amount they put in my face on the spot if they asked.
I'd be willing to guess it will continue to be useless/pointless, yet headline grabbing scans.
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Its the same hardware, I dual boot. The hardware is the same, the software isn't.
Actually, the graphics card was what was supplying the heat in the first place.
I can run high end math on the CPU using OpenCL all day long with no heat, the video card on the other hand is a firecracker.
For instance, theres a n-Body particle simulator as an example for using OpenCL to compute on the various processors included in your computer. If you run it on the CPU only, turns about 6Gflops and never heats up at all. Switch to the high end graphics chip (my laptop has 2, or so it claims, one high end, one low end for secondary displays) and it'll heat up to too hot to touch within a few minutes, but it'll also turn out 40-45Gflops.
Mind you, the Gflops aren't a real benchmark and are only relative to the simulation as far as what the numbers mean, but the graphics card and more importantly, the spot where the graphics chips' heat sink touches the case would roast you before this recent update, now it doesn't.
My guess would be is that its not using the graphics silicon the way it was meant to be used, rather than using some other tricks to accomplish the workarounds for hardware lighting occlusion.
Its worth mentioning that the Apple update was followed on the heels with an update to the Mac EVE client. They may have simply switched to a much more efficient built in hardware method of accomplishing the task.
Its also possible that the two events are entirely unrelated, I don't really know.
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You do realize it isn't the same today as it was 7 years ago ... RIGHT?
You do realize they've had 2 major graphics rewrites since it started ... RIGHT?
I highly doubt you could stand playing EVE with everything turned on with a card 7 years old. Unless you think those cards could handle HDR and the massive Bloom effects it uses.
EVE today is not EVE from 7 years ago. Neat thing about MMOs ... they evolve over time. You mean to tell me that WoW has the exact same graphics engine as it did when it was released? If so I feel sorry for the WoW players.
So what? OpenSolaris was a bad joke anyway.
In the true spirit of OSS, they packed up their bags, stuck out their tongues and said 'fuck it, we're done dealing with you guys, we're going home' ... and thats perfectly within their rights.
It should be noted however, since they were about the only ones using OpenSolaris, no one is really going to notice they are gone.
Using OpenSolaris is roughly the same as running Darwin instead of OS X. Roughly, not really the same, but both are pretty much pathetic bases of the what the person actually WANTS to run, which is the full version. Anyone who would consider running OpenSolaris will just pay the tiny little fee and run the real deal which has slightly (not much mind you) more spit and polish on it.
Now if only Audible didn't suck ass. I'm guessing the authors hate Audible with a passion due to how shitty their products are.
You do, because he doesn't.
Really, WHAT skill is required to do what he does? Random people send him shit and he puts it on a website. He doesn't actually check it or anything.
If you have a gmail account you can do what he does.
OSX has a POSIX subsystem which could be targeted and would make a port to Linux much easier.
That said, the current OS X port of Steam requires a case sensitive filesystem to work because they don't know how to write code for shit.
With that constraint, about the only way you'll get Steam working in Linux is by putting it on a FAT filesystem and making a bunch of symlinks like you have to do on OS X to get it to work on a case-insensitive file system.
So while it might be close, and it might not be a hard port, Valve clearly lacks the quality coders required to work with something as simple as sorting filenames without changing them to all lower case first. With that in mind, its unlikely they'll be able to login to a Linux box to start writing the code, let alone actually producing anything that works.
Where?
Server room? Sure. Linux is more popular than Macs since Macs make pretty shitty servers from a cost perspective.
Desktop? Give me a break, the only people who use Linux desktops have businesses selling Linux. Plenty of businesses that don't sell Apple product use Macs.
I know 1 google employee that uses a Linux on his laptop ... when it isn't booted into OS X, I know 7 or 8 admins that use Mac laptops to admin unix machines are large companies.
You also see macs all over Hollywood. You see macs all over the media industries like Newspapers (dead tree format and online), television and
Macs common on the desktop in general? Of course not, more common than Linux? Without any doubt what so ever.
You guys need some perspective from outside your basement, something from the real world might be useful. Its fine to want to support your favorite OS, but when you walk into some business with the sort of ignorance you have the only thing you're going to get is laughed at, especially when you walk in and the guys doing the hiring have Macs.
The problem is ... Cleveland will still charge its customers $30 a ton and keep the $26 as well.
Perhaps instead of pumping out a bunch of smart trash cans to figure out who's been bad, they put the money into automatic sorting devices so the customer doesn't have to.
Or, give the customer some credit for recycling.
Rather than just figuring out new ways to bill the customer they could do something intelligent that would benefit the customer.
Wow, talk about depression.
I'm pretty sure judging by your post that your life would bore me to death simply by reading your description of a bar.
For reference, generally when someone is so opposed to a common social construct such as a bar its generally a good indication that the fault lies with the person, not the construct.
Jealous much?
As the spy agency for one of the most powerful countries in the world ... Yea, I guess you could call it magic powers. They'd just have him disappear or kill him outright though and leave no reference that they were involved. It'd probably call it a lot of things other than magic, but yea, I can see how you'd think it was magic.
... watching the watchers? are you fucking kidding me?
The guy gets data stolen from people and releases it without any effort put into finding out if theres anything of value or wrong actually IN it.
He's a data thief not some fucking super hero.
I don't judge Assange by the accusations against him, I judge him by his actions. He's a pile of shit. How stupid are you?
When they decide to get him, he'll either just disappear or just be dead.
This has nothing to do with anyone 'trying to get him'. If 'they' were 'trying to get him' ... 'they' would have.
When are you guys going to get that 'a regular OS with all of its functionality' ... isn't what works well on a phone, which is why people like the iPhone.
Stop trying to treat your phone like a desktop ... or even a sub notebook and you'll be a lot happier AND more productive.
Okay, for reference, people with disabilities have ... disabilities.
That means they can't do everything so where possible provisions are made to allow them to participate.
That said, they are disabled which means they can not do everything that people without disabilities can. The ADA doesn't require that provisions are made so that a paralyzed person can perform brain surgery or do construction work.
There are reasonable limits on what is expected. You don't have to make the web visible to a blind man because you can't, but since there are viable alternatives that are very cheap to implement you are recommended to implement them or required under certain fed programs.
The ADA simply wants reasonable efforts, not solving the impossible. You are not being reasonable.
Ahhh ... idiots suggesting speed bumps ... you know what happens when you put down speed bumps?
2 things ... people don't want to drive there, so they avoid the area. Means all property values fall, residential or commercial because you've made the area less desirable to everyone.
Second, in between the speed bumps ... you'll have a lot of pissed off people gunning it to spit you. They'll end up hitting some little kid because the kid wasn't working and they were blinded by rage because of your retarded speed bumps.
I'm sure you'll tell me how its the drivers fault for not controlling his rage ... or the kid's fault for not looking ... the end result is STILL a dead or mangled child.
Suggesting speed bumps as a solution to any problem is about like suggesting the cure to lung cancer is to stop breathing.
Thats funny, since the battle cry for Linux is almost invariably 'Windows is broken out of the box' or 'We're better than Windows'.
I know, I'll get marked as a Troll instantly ... but really, do you guys hear what you say when you make these comments? Linux users expect their OS to not work right ... except when you point this out as a reason for something else, they'll be 100,000 fanboys saying that the statement is wrong, or that its a feature or god knows whatever silly excuse seems to fit the bill.
Always talking about Windows being inferior and never realizing exactly why no one bothers to give Linux the time of day ... you even here are saying it like its a good thing that Linux users expect shit to be broken from the start ...
I really can't understand why you guys are so fascinated with it. I mean, I get liking Unix, it has its place but its not the only solution out there, yet no matter WHAT happens, you guys seem to keep thinking it is.
Even Windows admins aren't that retarded enough to think its the end all be all solution.
And no, just because you can login and open the ActiveDirectory manager doesn't make you a Windows admin and more than having root makes you a Unix admin.
Yea, but thats only cause the drug companies will bury it for the next 100 years, it'll eventually become public when some high school kid cobbles together enough info and publishes it before someone realizes they need to buy him off.
patent and then bury so they can keep selling drugs to treat the symptoms rather than curing the person with HIV?
I'm betting it'll be GSK.
I'm fully aware of that, I'm also fully aware that CDMA is not WCDMA and vice versus. If there were the same thing they'd not have different names and different pages would they?
You and the original poster seem to think WCDMA and CDMA are the same thing. They aren't, thats why we call them different names.
So our cell phones will be advertised as:
Up to 100MB/s for data
and
Up to 3 active voice connections at a time!
and what we'll REALLY get is 200-300k speeds for data on a good day, and one active voice connection that works ... sometimes.
No thanks.