Whats better is if you take a look at his history of 'inventions', you find one or two things that eventually, with the help of others, turned into something that other people use.
His personal list of inventions looks like a list of 'things no one gives a shit about'.
His list of Wikipedia quotes are golden. I think there was one on the list that didn't make him look like a total douche.
He's one of those guys that thinks everything sucks except what he's made... unfortunately, the entire rest of the world feels pretty much the exact opposite.
Looking at his history, I don't think he'll ever say anything bad about Go, he'll just continue thinking it was perfect and that it failed because everyone else wasn't up to the task of using it.
Should have RTFA I guess, I now realize Mr Pike just talks in circles and really didn't have anything of value to say other than 'programming is hard'.
On what they mean for the language to do, and want the compiler to provide as much help as possible while allowing for as much flexibility as possible.
I'm sure Google will now tell us the javascript is the only way of the future, with embedded python for shits and giggles.
I'm sorry to say, Google is now officially my new Microsoft. Too big for their own good, to concerned with controlling the computing world for me to trust anything they say or do.
Shrug, I guess Google will go back to using VB and I'll become irrelevant as a programmer. I'm not going to lose any sleep over my concern for it happening.
No, we don't know what they are, but the guess is pretty confident.
The fact that we make new discoveries about things that we 'know' on a daily basis should tell you not to make such bold statements.
What was detected could be something completely unrelated that simple appears like something else to our instruments because we haven't learned to detect its differences.
Yep, gotta start somewhere, it'll grow I'm sure as it already has. The key is that it (well, all combined renewable energy sources) needs to grow faster than our consumption does.
I'm sure eventually that will happen as we'll run out of non-renewable fuels at which point our consumption and renewable fuel supplies will match perfectly!
Freedom to do the best job you can and the sheer desire to create a product that's good enough that you would use is a very strong motivating factor.
I'm sorry, have you actually USED any OSS software?
Yes, thats true for a few things, but the 'quality' and 'movtivation' of OSS devs is just as shitty as closed source devs. For ever good OSS project there are roughly 1000 shitty ones, and the same is true for closed source software.
The people who write open source software are VERY OFTEN the EXACT SAME ONES writing closed source software. Most of the time its because one is so they can eat and the other is so they can relax and enjoy themselves.
I'm not saying this is necessarily the "rationale" you asked for, but maybe. Maybe the open source developers didn't have to waste their time going to "team building" workshops, or Monday breakfast meetings or have to keep their mouth shut while their boss screws something up or takes credit for the developers' work.
So instead of having real motivation like 'fix the fucking bugs or your fired and don't get paid' or we have OSS motivation 'I'll feel special if I fix a bug!'... And you think thats going to make OSS safer? Let me tell you how developers work. They write some code that they are proud off and think is bug free, and then... someone finds and exploits thier pretty code because only about 1 out of 10,000 even care about finding bugs rather than pushing out new features, and only one in 10k of those actually have the skills to examine code and applications to find bugs, even fewer still have the ability to figure out ways around security mechanisms.
Wait a minute now. We're talking about four browsers. The ones from Apple and Microsoft have security vulnerabilities and the ones from Google and Mozilla do not. Is it just coincidence?
Wait, what? Are you blind or just born yesterday and don't have any clue wtf you're talking about? Let me quote what the person who found the bug said on the page linked since no one bothers to read it...
@Anonymous, Tom: I believe this may be a WebKit issue and not just Safari. While it is difficult to confirm now, I suspect this technique did in fact affect Chrome. Had some discussions with Google a while back surrounding this topic and recall them finding/fixing something, but I don't really get all the details straight. Will have to find an older Chrome version somewhere to confirm...
I've written my own kernels for microcontrollers and I've done a fair amount of embedding Gecko and now Webkit.
Embedding Gecko pretty much means you have to become a browser dev because mozilla is full of idiots but I digress.
I would, without any doubt in my mind, write kernel code over browser code.
Kernel code is freaking EASY compared to a browser. I'm more confident in fake 'memory protection' I can create without an MMU than I am of anything in a browser, and I know the fake memory protection is trivial to blow right past.
Hardware is really easy to deal with because there aren't 300 layers inbetween you and the real hardware. Way too much redirection and other code in a browser, not only do you have the browser code but you also have all the code under it that makes it useful, including the kernel.
Give me a SGI onyx with 64 processors and tell me to make a kernel and I'll do it.
Tell me to write a rendering engine for a markup language and my first question will be 'whats the pay rate and whats the signing bonus for even considering taking the project'.
The vulnerability does not exist in Webkit (the open source component of Safari), so no one but Apple can fix this issue.
Really? Because there is discussion between developers (not just fanboys like yourself) about it existing and being fixed in chome because its likely a webkit issue, not Safari.
Of course, I don't know that for a fact because its too soon to tell, but that didn't stop you from spouting some ignorant bullshit so why should it stop me?
Its a bug in the javascript and dom code... which... guess where that code comes from... Its not like Safari does it different than every other WebKit based browser.
They'd be an awesome life. Knowing the device in your chest is buggy and will have 'updates' released every time the developer makes a commit to the revision control system. Knowing that your entire life depends on a guy who is doing it because he can shout 'OMG FOSS FOR LIFE FUCK THE MAN I'M SAVING THE WORLD'.
Knowing your life depends on developers who only care about the code they write and how it fits their needs.
You'll have 45 buttons on your pacemaker that let you control all the different ways you can stimulate and control your heart. Most of them will return 'not yet implemented', 3 of them will result in a core dump of pacemakerd, 10 of them a PANIC reboot, another 2 cause it to just go silent and halt, and the developer threw in an Easter egg that makes you piss your pants if you hear a penguin.
If you're lucky, you'll get a group of devs that doesn't have 2 or 3 in it that throw temper tantrums on semi-regular basis and threaten to fork it while not putting any effort into the project.
And to top it ALL off, If you complain to anyone about it, the response you'll get is:
You have the source, fix it yourself.
Let me tell you how quick I would be to jump on that train. To tie my life to someone who really doesn't get affected in anyway when his/her software kills me and has no real reason to put any effort into ensuring it doesn't.
The OSS world still doesn't get why companies avoid OSS software, what the fuck makes you think anyone with a 3rd of a brain wants their life to depend on OSS.
I use OSS constantly, there are some great accomplishments. Large portions of my life depend on OSS, but you will probably never find OSS in controlling any thing that my actual life depends on.
I prefer to live, not prove how awesome OSS isn't for every situation.
OPEN SOURCE IS NOT INHERENTLY BETTER, STOP PRETENDING IT IS. You guys REALLY need some perspective. Or just stop letting timothy have access to post to the front page.
You do realize, that in order for a fake tower to work, it actually has to be part of the network right?
How do you intend to connect to the phone network with your fake tower?
Putting up a fake tower and getting phones to connect isn't hard, but its just about only useful for stop calls.
If you want to listen in on calls with a 'fake tower' it actually has to function as a tower and connect you to a phone network so you can have a conversation. Not much to record otherwise.
Still not impossible, but its not something you can do without someone else knowing about it.
I'm pretty sure they've all had better careers because of WoW, and of course the majority of the WoW team HAS a career because of it, so its certainly made their careers better.
I would like to point out however, the rest of us have know that 'games boost your career' for years.
Why do you think people play golf? Its not about liking golf, its a awesome way to get someone drunk and talk about business while in a relaxed setting. You get far more accomplished in this setting than you do in a conference room or office. People let their guard down and feel they can trust someone more in that environment, makes deals far more likely to happen.
Real business happens on the golf course. WoW is just another golf course.
And which standard would you like to use as a official C reference point? I can think of four that are considered 'official' right now.
But, either way, reading comprehension is hard:
It may not crash, but yes, its broken and buggy by my standards.
So...being that I just told you the standard to use (mine) and that it was wrong... well, not sure what my point was, but go read my previous post and try again.
Is there something unique about this game that makes it truely unique or impressive compared to the other few thousand that came out today, or yesterday?
The summary and title make it seem like localization is something impressive?
I got a bridge over the ocean in Arizona, right on the beach... I'll sell it to you for $1 since you seem like such a nice guy. Its right next to the nice guys at Zynga.
What does stock dilution have to do with this? Apparently you have no idea what dilution actually is. Maybe you should read the link you posted.
He had 84% ownership before, you can split it 150000000 times, and he'll still own 84%, he'll just own 150000000 more shares too.
The only way he can loss is by selling part of his ownership. Stock dilution isn't just some loophole that lets you selectively rip people off, in fact it has no effect on anyone who doesn't let it.
I'm going to ignore the fact that you actually have to be publicly traded for it to matter anyway.
Now we have lawyers on slashdot... because they read it on Wikipedia.
Do you guys go to real lawyers and tell them about how you read wikipedia and know how you want to handle your court case?
I'm just curious how long it takes for them to clean out your bank account or laugh you out of the room, and which one happens most often in your case.
I doubt Ceglia will take less than 50%, but I won't be surprised if he takes that if he's offered it, and let the production delays slide.
Why would he do that? If they start making offers for 50%, he knows he's whipped their ass and will hold out for it in its entirety. I would at least, just to spank the ever living fuck out of Zuckerdouche.
God, I hate ignorant fucks who try to 'educate' about drugs.
Just stop talking, you make the rest of us look stupid.
you can not die from an overdose
You most certainly can, its not something that happens due to the impracticality of it. You'll die from oxygen deprivation first if you're trying to smoke it. Stop talking out your ass with some bullshit you read on the Internet or your little stone friend told you.
you can not get addicted to it
This is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. Only a completely idiot would make such a statement. The withdrawl symptoms from the physical addiction are rather lax and are far less to deal with than nicotine withdrawl but they are most certainly there. Second, ANY SUBSTANCE can be mental addictive, which is FAR worse than ANY physical addiction.
Please don't talk about pot like you know anything about it, go hit your bong and shut up. Ignorance such as yours won't help get it legalized, it'll just give those against it more fire power to stop it.
Next time you have a thought on the subject, just let it go. We'll all be better off because of it.
These are drugs that have had ruinous effects on parts of our society
This claim is bunk.
The drugs have no effect. The addicts using them do.
In my experience, the addicts have issues regardless of which drug they happen to be using. I've never seen an addict who was a normal contributing member of society before they became an addict.
Take away every drug control law on the planet and the next year or two would result in a lot of deaths and accidents by morons that couldn't keep it together without the law to curb their habits.
After that, we'd be right back to where we are now, sans the drug crimes.
The people who have problems with drugs have problems on their own, the drug may make it obvious, but it doesn't create a problem from nothing.
If by informal blind eye, you mean the DEA and FBI are regularly going after people, arresting them and sentencing them to very long jail terms, then yea, they are turning an informal blind eye to it.
I prefer to think of it as they are prosecuting to the fullest extent of their resources, but hey, I supposed thats just my perspective.
California's drug laws (as you said) don't matter, its illegal from a federal perspective and the first industrial grower that opens will either be a CIA funding operation or will promptly be closed by the DEA.
Zuckerberg probably never disclosed this old contract
And thats yet another reason Zuckerfuck needs to be put in jail. Not disclosing the contract most certainly makes every move the Z douche has made illegal, he's commited SO much fraud I doubt he can tell where it starts and where it ends. He's been selling bits of a company that he doesn't even own a controlling interest in thanks to how he was attempting to rip someone else off.
When Facebook got money, the concept of DD for an Internet company was something along the lines of 'is the site up right now? Yea? Good enough for me!' Or 'No? Ehh, its a website no big deal we can fix it tomorrow, thats Good enough for me!
If this turns out to be legit, there are going to be several VC companies that will rape him over this, rightly so.
Can we please just put a bullet in his head and save everyone a lot of money and time?
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, even though it ran 'Linux', it is entirely possible, that no one really wanted it.
Maybe, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but MAYBE the general population of the world doesn't want a fanboy phone, they want a good phone.
While you can rant all day long about why you think Android is Gods gift to the world, most people don't feel that way. Android is not something that gives the general public any warm tingly feelings.
I know its hard to talk about, but MAYBE its that the product wasn't what the market wanted. Crazy thought I know, but consider it for a minute.
Whats better is if you take a look at his history of 'inventions', you find one or two things that eventually, with the help of others, turned into something that other people use.
His personal list of inventions looks like a list of 'things no one gives a shit about'.
His list of Wikipedia quotes are golden. I think there was one on the list that didn't make him look like a total douche.
He's one of those guys that thinks everything sucks except what he's made ... unfortunately, the entire rest of the world feels pretty much the exact opposite.
Looking at his history, I don't think he'll ever say anything bad about Go, he'll just continue thinking it was perfect and that it failed because everyone else wasn't up to the task of using it.
Should have RTFA I guess, I now realize Mr Pike just talks in circles and really didn't have anything of value to say other than 'programming is hard'.
On what they mean for the language to do, and want the compiler to provide as much help as possible while allowing for as much flexibility as possible.
I'm sure Google will now tell us the javascript is the only way of the future, with embedded python for shits and giggles.
I'm sorry to say, Google is now officially my new Microsoft. Too big for their own good, to concerned with controlling the computing world for me to trust anything they say or do.
Shrug, I guess Google will go back to using VB and I'll become irrelevant as a programmer. I'm not going to lose any sleep over my concern for it happening.
Wow, the arrogance.
No, we don't know what they are, but the guess is pretty confident.
The fact that we make new discoveries about things that we 'know' on a daily basis should tell you not to make such bold statements.
What was detected could be something completely unrelated that simple appears like something else to our instruments because we haven't learned to detect its differences.
Yep, gotta start somewhere, it'll grow I'm sure as it already has. The key is that it (well, all combined renewable energy sources) needs to grow faster than our consumption does.
I'm sure eventually that will happen as we'll run out of non-renewable fuels at which point our consumption and renewable fuel supplies will match perfectly!
I'm sorry, have you actually USED any OSS software?
Yes, thats true for a few things, but the 'quality' and 'movtivation' of OSS devs is just as shitty as closed source devs. For ever good OSS project there are roughly 1000 shitty ones, and the same is true for closed source software.
The people who write open source software are VERY OFTEN the EXACT SAME ONES writing closed source software. Most of the time its because one is so they can eat and the other is so they can relax and enjoy themselves.
So instead of having real motivation like 'fix the fucking bugs or your fired and don't get paid' or we have OSS motivation 'I'll feel special if I fix a bug!' ... And you think thats going to make OSS safer? Let me tell you how developers work. They write some code that they are proud off and think is bug free, and then ... someone finds and exploits thier pretty code because only about 1 out of 10,000 even care about finding bugs rather than pushing out new features, and only one in 10k of those actually have the skills to examine code and applications to find bugs, even fewer still have the ability to figure out ways around security mechanisms.
Wait, what? Are you blind or just born yesterday and don't have any clue wtf you're talking about? Let me quote what the person who found the bug said on the page linked since no one bothers to read it ...
I've written my own kernels for microcontrollers and I've done a fair amount of embedding Gecko and now Webkit.
Embedding Gecko pretty much means you have to become a browser dev because mozilla is full of idiots but I digress.
I would, without any doubt in my mind, write kernel code over browser code.
Kernel code is freaking EASY compared to a browser. I'm more confident in fake 'memory protection' I can create without an MMU than I am of anything in a browser, and I know the fake memory protection is trivial to blow right past.
Hardware is really easy to deal with because there aren't 300 layers inbetween you and the real hardware. Way too much redirection and other code in a browser, not only do you have the browser code but you also have all the code under it that makes it useful, including the kernel.
Give me a SGI onyx with 64 processors and tell me to make a kernel and I'll do it.
Tell me to write a rendering engine for a markup language and my first question will be 'whats the pay rate and whats the signing bonus for even considering taking the project'.
Browser programming fucking sucks.
Really? Because there is discussion between developers (not just fanboys like yourself) about it existing and being fixed in chome because its likely a webkit issue, not Safari.
Of course, I don't know that for a fact because its too soon to tell, but that didn't stop you from spouting some ignorant bullshit so why should it stop me?
Its a bug in the javascript and dom code ... which ... guess where that code comes from ... Its not like Safari does it different than every other WebKit based browser.
Sure, go ahead, implant one in your chest.
They'd be an awesome life. Knowing the device in your chest is buggy and will have 'updates' released every time the developer makes a commit to the revision control system. Knowing that your entire life depends on a guy who is doing it because he can shout 'OMG FOSS FOR LIFE FUCK THE MAN I'M SAVING THE WORLD'.
Knowing your life depends on developers who only care about the code they write and how it fits their needs.
You'll have 45 buttons on your pacemaker that let you control all the different ways you can stimulate and control your heart. Most of them will return 'not yet implemented', 3 of them will result in a core dump of pacemakerd, 10 of them a PANIC reboot, another 2 cause it to just go silent and halt, and the developer threw in an Easter egg that makes you piss your pants if you hear a penguin.
If you're lucky, you'll get a group of devs that doesn't have 2 or 3 in it that throw temper tantrums on semi-regular basis and threaten to fork it while not putting any effort into the project.
And to top it ALL off, If you complain to anyone about it, the response you'll get is:
You have the source, fix it yourself.
Let me tell you how quick I would be to jump on that train. To tie my life to someone who really doesn't get affected in anyway when his/her software kills me and has no real reason to put any effort into ensuring it doesn't.
The OSS world still doesn't get why companies avoid OSS software, what the fuck makes you think anyone with a 3rd of a brain wants their life to depend on OSS.
I use OSS constantly, there are some great accomplishments. Large portions of my life depend on OSS, but you will probably never find OSS in controlling any thing that my actual life depends on.
I prefer to live, not prove how awesome OSS isn't for every situation.
OPEN SOURCE IS NOT INHERENTLY BETTER, STOP PRETENDING IT IS. You guys REALLY need some perspective. Or just stop letting timothy have access to post to the front page.
Except your completely ignore what happens everywhere else as if this is unique and different.
What happens is they give you ads AND charge you for the software after everyone starts doing it.
Ever used cable TV? Guess how that started out ...
You do realize, that in order for a fake tower to work, it actually has to be part of the network right?
How do you intend to connect to the phone network with your fake tower?
Putting up a fake tower and getting phones to connect isn't hard, but its just about only useful for stop calls.
If you want to listen in on calls with a 'fake tower' it actually has to function as a tower and connect you to a phone network so you can have a conversation. Not much to record otherwise.
Still not impossible, but its not something you can do without someone else knowing about it.
Sorry, didn't realize it wasn't tentacle porn.
I'm pretty sure they've all had better careers because of WoW, and of course the majority of the WoW team HAS a career because of it, so its certainly made their careers better.
I would like to point out however, the rest of us have know that 'games boost your career' for years.
Why do you think people play golf? Its not about liking golf, its a awesome way to get someone drunk and talk about business while in a relaxed setting. You get far more accomplished in this setting than you do in a conference room or office. People let their guard down and feel they can trust someone more in that environment, makes deals far more likely to happen.
Real business happens on the golf course. WoW is just another golf course.
And which standard would you like to use as a official C reference point? I can think of four that are considered 'official' right now.
But, either way, reading comprehension is hard:
So ...being that I just told you the standard to use (mine) and that it was wrong ... well, not sure what my point was, but go read my previous post and try again.
Is there something unique about this game that makes it truely unique or impressive compared to the other few thousand that came out today, or yesterday?
The summary and title make it seem like localization is something impressive?
Wow ...
I got a bridge over the ocean in Arizona, right on the beach ... I'll sell it to you for $1 since you seem like such a nice guy. Its right next to the nice guys at Zynga.
What does stock dilution have to do with this? Apparently you have no idea what dilution actually is. Maybe you should read the link you posted.
He had 84% ownership before, you can split it 150000000 times, and he'll still own 84%, he'll just own 150000000 more shares too.
The only way he can loss is by selling part of his ownership. Stock dilution isn't just some loophole that lets you selectively rip people off, in fact it has no effect on anyone who doesn't let it.
I'm going to ignore the fact that you actually have to be publicly traded for it to matter anyway.
Freaking awesome.
Now we have lawyers on slashdot ... because they read it on Wikipedia.
Do you guys go to real lawyers and tell them about how you read wikipedia and know how you want to handle your court case?
I'm just curious how long it takes for them to clean out your bank account or laugh you out of the room, and which one happens most often in your case.
Why would he do that? If they start making offers for 50%, he knows he's whipped their ass and will hold out for it in its entirety. I would at least, just to spank the ever living fuck out of Zuckerdouche.
God, I hate ignorant fucks who try to 'educate' about drugs.
Just stop talking, you make the rest of us look stupid.
You most certainly can, its not something that happens due to the impracticality of it. You'll die from oxygen deprivation first if you're trying to smoke it. Stop talking out your ass with some bullshit you read on the Internet or your little stone friend told you.
This is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. Only a completely idiot would make such a statement. The withdrawl symptoms from the physical addiction are rather lax and are far less to deal with than nicotine withdrawl but they are most certainly there. Second, ANY SUBSTANCE can be mental addictive, which is FAR worse than ANY physical addiction.
Please don't talk about pot like you know anything about it, go hit your bong and shut up. Ignorance such as yours won't help get it legalized, it'll just give those against it more fire power to stop it.
Next time you have a thought on the subject, just let it go. We'll all be better off because of it.
This claim is bunk.
The drugs have no effect. The addicts using them do.
In my experience, the addicts have issues regardless of which drug they happen to be using. I've never seen an addict who was a normal contributing member of society before they became an addict.
Take away every drug control law on the planet and the next year or two would result in a lot of deaths and accidents by morons that couldn't keep it together without the law to curb their habits.
After that, we'd be right back to where we are now, sans the drug crimes.
The people who have problems with drugs have problems on their own, the drug may make it obvious, but it doesn't create a problem from nothing.
If by informal blind eye, you mean the DEA and FBI are regularly going after people, arresting them and sentencing them to very long jail terms, then yea, they are turning an informal blind eye to it.
I prefer to think of it as they are prosecuting to the fullest extent of their resources, but hey, I supposed thats just my perspective.
California's drug laws (as you said) don't matter, its illegal from a federal perspective and the first industrial grower that opens will either be a CIA funding operation or will promptly be closed by the DEA.
And thats yet another reason Zuckerfuck needs to be put in jail. Not disclosing the contract most certainly makes every move the Z douche has made illegal, he's commited SO much fraud I doubt he can tell where it starts and where it ends. He's been selling bits of a company that he doesn't even own a controlling interest in thanks to how he was attempting to rip someone else off.
When Facebook got money, the concept of DD for an Internet company was something along the lines of 'is the site up right now? Yea? Good enough for me!' Or 'No? Ehh, its a website no big deal we can fix it tomorrow, thats Good enough for me!
If this turns out to be legit, there are going to be several VC companies that will rape him over this, rightly so.
Can we please just put a bullet in his head and save everyone a lot of money and time?
Awe, is your pussy hurting because some people said some mean things that don't even apply to you?
Do you need to have someone rub it for you?
Maybe the problem is easier than you realize.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, even though it ran 'Linux', it is entirely possible, that no one really wanted it.
Maybe, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but MAYBE the general population of the world doesn't want a fanboy phone, they want a good phone.
While you can rant all day long about why you think Android is Gods gift to the world, most people don't feel that way. Android is not something that gives the general public any warm tingly feelings.
I know its hard to talk about, but MAYBE its that the product wasn't what the market wanted. Crazy thought I know, but consider it for a minute.
Could be worse, they could ship with Linux.