Stop spreading FUD, you have no clue what you're talking about as the h264 license doesn't do anything like what you describe.
Theora is arguable better/worse, and its an argument that is clearly not clear. There are no known patents and they've went out of their way to try and not be subject to any, thats good, but it doesn't change the fact that their still may be patents that effect it.
You have no proof of either one of your claims. The first (performance) is a highly contested debug and the second is for all practical purposes impossible to prove.
There is a lot of uncertainty and doubt involved... unfortunately you're too blind to see where its at.
Reality check... until the EU actually starts acting like a union rather than a loose coalition of countries that want to combine power but aren't willing to give up any of their own... nothing is going to be impressive about the European economy.
Give it another 100 - 200 years... then the EU might be some sort of powerful state... sadly, China will have long sense conquered the US and EU by then since they don't sit around bickering internally with themselves.
So I see you've never owned a WinMobile device... It had an appstore (a really shitty one mind you) before the iPhone existed, and I can safely say the OS has more apps than android and iPhone OS combined.
That's the key point here. The article is a PR spin to try to make it seem like MS is protecting users. But in reality, it's an artificial limitation. They could quite easily make it a plugin system where it would ship with one or two codecs, and users could "install" others if they choose (in fact, they could make it semi-automatic. When it finds a video with a codec it doesn't have, it tries to find it, sort of how it works in Linux)... But no, they make the choice for us
All true.
It's the same with Apple's rejection of Theora... It's not about providing the best experience for users.
I disagree. Theora is substandard unless you car more about your political ideals than actual value of the item in question. Don't take a couple specific, tuned examples of Theora seeming to compete as an indication that its on the same playing field, its not, sorry.
It's not about providing the best experience for users. It's about binding developers hands and removing choice.
Wrong. It is about providing the best experience for users. 99.999999% of the users in the world don't want or need to make the choice or will ever be in the situation where they will need a different codec, especially if they just force the market towards using a common one. By forcing everyone to use a single standard users WILL have a better experience.
You won't be able to go screw around and use whatever random codec you want to access whatever random new fad website of the week you're visiting... but MS and Apple don't care about you, nor do myself and most of the rest of the Internet. We just want things to work without dicking around with it. Apple and MS using their weight to do so just makes it happen faster, most of us are OK with that and the tradeoffs that come with it.
h264 is so cheap to license that I really don't give a shit about anyone who doesn't want to license it. Its not like someone can't make a closed source library for Linux to allow it to work as long as you can get over your irrational 'OMG MUST BE GPL OR I'LL DIE' bullshit. It is non-discriminitory... they don't care what you do with it or how you implement it.
They tried to do it with ActiveX, but most sites rebelled which launched Flash into the limelight.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. These two technologies are so unrelated that I can't even fathom how you decided to combine them. You're making comparisons between a media plugin (Flash player) and an entire plugin system (ActiveX)... which is pretty much currently identical to the same system Mozilla uses... ActiveX is a specific type of COM object... just like Mozilla XPCOM is just another type of COM object definition. Flash can actually be implemented as both! It however is used for slightly more specific purposes, for which both IE and Mozilla (and other browsers sharing the nsplugin api) have their own special implementations to handle those needs better.
They did it with their Quirks mode.
Meh, if they wanted to make a stand, they could have done quirks mode differently and forced standards compliance out of the box... then you'd have far more users AND developers complaining about all the broken apps they now have to make special work arounds for.
I can see both sides of that argument having perfectly valid points and depending on who and what you have to support, I can easily see the same person ending up on either side of this argument. There wasn't a right answer here, just two bad fixes for something that should have been fixed a long time ago.
They did it in IE8 by cherry picking the CSS 3 features they "thought were useful".
You know, I keep hearing 'abolition patents' said over and over, but considering the current system, for all its problems, does actually function... I've yet to hear any really compelling reason to abolish it.
Everytime a patent troll gets someone the company takes a hit, redesigns the product to not get hit by the patent and moves on. Patent trolls really do actually inspire invention just from trying to get away from the bastards.
It really doesn't matter which side you contain as the end result is the same.
The important part is preventing the cold incoming air from being tainted with hot exhaust air. Which side you do it on is largely irrelevant unless you have a large amount of foot traffic in the server room which may bring in outside air to upset the balance, but even that would require what I would most certainly consider an unacceptable amount of foot traffic to occur in a datacenter.
Just hanging vinyl like Google does takes you to the point that you're wasting time and money by putting any further engineering resources on it.
I have a 17" LED backlist MBP Core2 Duo with 320GB of spinning platters that gives me 6 minimum hours unless I'm playing games or watching flash... Your netbook isn't even impressive compared to a modern laptop. I've easily spent more than 6 doing nothing but web browsing over wifi (without flash enabled of course).
I really fail to see the usefulness of a netbook short of a completely throw away device that you don't give a shit about the fact that it got soaked with water when someone did a cannon ball next to you at the pool. Anything that small is useless as far as being 'big enough' imo, might as well just use my phone. Sure its smaller but it always fits in my pocket and it'll last a good 6 hours doing basic stuff as well, OGL games tend to kill it of course, but thats not something your netbook is even capable of doing.
Perhaps you should realize that your definition of 'open standard' isn't one that anyone outside of the OSS community subscribes to.
It is available to anyone to implement anyway they care to without any discrimination in who gets to buy it for what purpose.
You can fully examine the standard.
Just because it costs money does not mean it isn't open.
OSS people have just gotten retarded and confuse 'open' and 'free' as if they are interchangable, and then have several different definitions of free that are used in various situations to promote the OSS agenda.
You really need to get some perspective if you want OSS to continue to be meaningful, the more you act like irrational jackasses by making retarded statements like you just made, the more every sane person in the world realizes they don't want listen to some fundimentalist nutjob such as yourself.
h264 meets pretty much everyones definition of an open standard outside of the minor collection of GPL zealots out there. Just because you have your own retarded/warped definition of open standard doesn't mean anyone else gives a shit.
Learn the difference between open standard, open source, and free because you clearly don't know the difference which is pretty much standard operating procedure for GPL zealots.
1. The court tends to call bullshit when its obvious you're going out of your way to facilitate breaking the law and using ignorance as an excuse. 2. Thats a simple option for the software of all p2p software, the Internet had ways to deal with flow control before you ever connected to it. 3. So use SSL... already done. 4. Again, already done. 5. This creates a way to figure out who is hosting what, defeating #1 Of course, its kind of a requirement to know who is offering what so that you can figure out where to ask for it.
If you want something public to be useful, its not going to be private or completely anonymous, you're asking for mutually exclusive features.
Only on slashdot do you get modded insightful when you make a statement that starts with 'I thought'
By the time 'I'll give them to the mayor' even came up it was far past unacceptable, and was after several flat out lies, if you'd bother to get any facts.
He claimed: He forgot them He was locked out himself for month, even after working on the systems only a few hours early that day. <Insert five or six more clear lies here/>
All of this before he was fired. They made far too many attempts to let him off the hook before they got pissed off.
They weren't given the definition of authorized persons by the prosecutors OR the defense... those are the people who are responsible for presenting the information to the jurors.
The prosecution/defense didn't do it out of fear that it would be interpreted wrong and they wouldn't lose.
The end result is the same, the jurors figured it out for themselves based on common sense... and guilty he became.
Why? Whats your plan? To run? Please explain how acting out of the ordinary is the right thing to do when you think the police may be involved.
Also please explain what rational reason you have for withdrawing money if you expect to go to deal with the police? The first thing they do when you get there is take your money away from you and put it in a secure location until you get released or transferred.
The common sense reaction would have been to assume that the single individual was acting irrational, not most of the city officials.
You assumed one man was acting sane and doing the right thing, and assumed many others were acting irrational and were ignorant of their job responsibilities.
Apology for being dumb accepted, but your still retarded for defending a apparently guilty Childs who did exist because you were too dumb to use even the slightest amount of common sense.
For the same reason Macs don't come with floppy drives.
At some point you have to move on. If they want to be the driving force behind dumping crap, more power too them. I for one haven't missed flash at all.
If you want to sell your software in App Store, you are not allowed to redistribute the source code or your app outside of it.
Uhm, wrong.
You most certainly CAN. You can't distribute references to the iPhone API. This is nothing new and developers have been dealing with this sort of thing for years. You create a very simple shim between your internal application model and the iPhone SDK bits and you don't distribute the shim. The rest is entirely distributable.
The good side to this is, they'll cram it into a package and force it down everyones throat, meaning more people will use encryption. This will at the very least make encryption more well known and possibly get normal people talking about it. Right now theres really no reason for any normal person to use encryption, regardless of what the paranoid slashdotters say. This will help get people thinking about it even if they don't need it.
The bad side is, it'll be a bloated, slow pile of shit.
The ugly side is, it'll encrypt everything just fine, but the password input mechanism will come with your password already entered for you so all you and visible in clear text, effectively rendering it useless... just like their AV products.
I think you need to take a better look at what happened.
They forked it. Then made it useable (sorry, its sad state beforehand was substandard and hardly worth mentioning). Then gave it back, to which the original team for khtml got all bitchy cause it was a massive patchset. Eventually giving in and working together to merge some changes.
Everything you've mentioned can and has been done without Flash. It just requires someone with more than a basic clue to do it. The only thing flash has going for it is a really good editor that allows even idiots to make things with it.
Their own employees and contractors caused a ton of downtime trying to get control of the network. If they'd left things alone there wouldn't have been any downtime.
For how long? Wait till a real failure occurs and not be able to do anything about it? You've never been an admin, clearly.
Not to mention they violated they guy's constitutional rights over something that could have been resolved amicably within 24 to 72 hours.
Yes, if Childs wouldn't have tried to hold the city hostage it could have been over very quickly. But he didn't, he thought he was in control and the city would cave. He was wrong on so many levels. He got what he brought on himself, you're an idiot if you can't see that. He could have ended it at any instant he wanted to.
Instead, they acted like a totalitarian regime and threw the guy in jail to break his will to resist.
So what you think should have happened is he should have been left to do whatever the hell he wanted, and the city should have just left everything the way it was and not do anything because it was working at the time... I don't know how to respond to such a retarded statement, wow... just... wow.
It's the people in charge of SF that should be prosecuted not this guy.
No, blackmail is illegal, which is what this was, try again.
Anyone in IT should be worried about ending up like this guy if they anger the SF city government in any way, this could be one heck of a bad precedent.
Any moron who goes through what this idiot did rather than just turning over the passwords when they get fired deserves to be treated just like him. Had he actually followed the policy they wouldn't even have had to ASK for the passwords as he would have stored them in the cities password management system.
Everytime I see a post like yours I just laugh at how junior admins with half a clue side with idiots like this. Any halfway competent admin would have never been put in this situation in the first place. Any halfway intelligent human being would have just turned over the passwords and went looking for a new job.
Instead, this idiot will sit in jail and will never work anywhere in the IT industry again. You can act like he's a hero and you should make sure the next time you go look for a job you tell them exactly how great this guy was, save them the trouble of dealing with you and having to find out the hardware that you're worthless.
The reality of it is, the fact that the initial situation happened in the first place means he was a shitty admin. He may just be stupid or (the likely reason) he was just trying to blackmail them, eitherway, he's a waste of oxygen and food supplies.
If you think the jury was wrong, you should probably get the case facts and stop basing your opinions on what some shitty, more than likely unemployed slashdotters who not only think the guy is right, but don't even realize why the situation should have never occured.
He didn't follow proceedure in the first place ( by not storing the passwords in the system the city implemented for this purpose)... Then tried to use some policies that applied to end user passwords ( not system admin passwords ) to justify his bullshit. What's more, he wasn't even following thouse policies properly.
The guy did absolutely nothing right because he was acting like an immature spoiled brat.
No sysadmin with half a clue is bothered by this, or is 'afraid of the ramifications')
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Stop spreading FUD, you have no clue what you're talking about as the h264 license doesn't do anything like what you describe.
Theora is arguable better/worse, and its an argument that is clearly not clear. There are no known patents and they've went out of their way to try and not be subject to any, thats good, but it doesn't change the fact that their still may be patents that effect it.
You have no proof of either one of your claims. The first (performance) is a highly contested debug and the second is for all practical purposes impossible to prove.
There is a lot of uncertainty and doubt involved ... unfortunately you're too blind to see where its at.
Hahahah yea ... that'll happen ...
Reality check ... until the EU actually starts acting like a union rather than a loose coalition of countries that want to combine power but aren't willing to give up any of their own ... nothing is going to be impressive about the European economy.
Give it another 100 - 200 years ... then the EU might be some sort of powerful state ... sadly, China will have long sense conquered the US and EU by then since they don't sit around bickering internally with themselves.
So I see you've never owned a WinMobile device ... It had an appstore (a really shitty one mind you) before the iPhone existed, and I can safely say the OS has more apps than android and iPhone OS combined.
All true.
I disagree. Theora is substandard unless you car more about your political ideals than actual value of the item in question. Don't take a couple specific, tuned examples of Theora seeming to compete as an indication that its on the same playing field, its not, sorry.
Wrong. It is about providing the best experience for users. 99.999999% of the users in the world don't want or need to make the choice or will ever be in the situation where they will need a different codec, especially if they just force the market towards using a common one. By forcing everyone to use a single standard users WILL have a better experience.
You won't be able to go screw around and use whatever random codec you want to access whatever random new fad website of the week you're visiting ... but MS and Apple don't care about you, nor do myself and most of the rest of the Internet. We just want things to work without dicking around with it. Apple and MS using their weight to do so just makes it happen faster, most of us are OK with that and the tradeoffs that come with it.
h264 is so cheap to license that I really don't give a shit about anyone who doesn't want to license it. Its not like someone can't make a closed source library for Linux to allow it to work as long as you can get over your irrational 'OMG MUST BE GPL OR I'LL DIE' bullshit. It is non-discriminitory ... they don't care what you do with it or how you implement it.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. These two technologies are so unrelated that I can't even fathom how you decided to combine them. You're making comparisons between a media plugin (Flash player) and an entire plugin system (ActiveX) ... which is pretty much currently identical to the same system Mozilla uses ... ActiveX is a specific type of COM object ... just like Mozilla XPCOM is just another type of COM object definition. Flash can actually be implemented as both! It however is used for slightly more specific purposes, for which both IE and Mozilla (and other browsers sharing the nsplugin api) have their own special implementations to handle those needs better.
Meh, if they wanted to make a stand, they could have done quirks mode differently and forced standards compliance out of the box ... then you'd have far more users AND developers complaining about all the broken apps they now have to make special work arounds for.
I can see both sides of that argument having perfectly valid points and depending on who and what you have to support, I can easily see the same person ending up on either side of this argument. There wasn't a right answer here, just two bad fixes for something that should have been fixed a long time ago.
True ... but the ones they p
You know, I keep hearing 'abolition patents' said over and over, but considering the current system, for all its problems, does actually function ... I've yet to hear any really compelling reason to abolish it.
Everytime a patent troll gets someone the company takes a hit, redesigns the product to not get hit by the patent and moves on. Patent trolls really do actually inspire invention just from trying to get away from the bastards.
It really doesn't matter which side you contain as the end result is the same.
The important part is preventing the cold incoming air from being tainted with hot exhaust air. Which side you do it on is largely irrelevant unless you have a large amount of foot traffic in the server room which may bring in outside air to upset the balance, but even that would require what I would most certainly consider an unacceptable amount of foot traffic to occur in a datacenter.
Just hanging vinyl like Google does takes you to the point that you're wasting time and money by putting any further engineering resources on it.
I have a 17" LED backlist MBP Core2 Duo with 320GB of spinning platters that gives me 6 minimum hours unless I'm playing games or watching flash ... Your netbook isn't even impressive compared to a modern laptop. I've easily spent more than 6 doing nothing but web browsing over wifi (without flash enabled of course).
I really fail to see the usefulness of a netbook short of a completely throw away device that you don't give a shit about the fact that it got soaked with water when someone did a cannon ball next to you at the pool. Anything that small is useless as far as being 'big enough' imo, might as well just use my phone. Sure its smaller but it always fits in my pocket and it'll last a good 6 hours doing basic stuff as well, OGL games tend to kill it of course, but thats not something your netbook is even capable of doing.
Perhaps you should realize that your definition of 'open standard' isn't one that anyone outside of the OSS community subscribes to.
It is available to anyone to implement anyway they care to without any discrimination in who gets to buy it for what purpose.
You can fully examine the standard.
Just because it costs money does not mean it isn't open.
OSS people have just gotten retarded and confuse 'open' and 'free' as if they are interchangable, and then have several different definitions of free that are used in various situations to promote the OSS agenda.
You really need to get some perspective if you want OSS to continue to be meaningful, the more you act like irrational jackasses by making retarded statements like you just made, the more every sane person in the world realizes they don't want listen to some fundimentalist nutjob such as yourself.
h264 meets pretty much everyones definition of an open standard outside of the minor collection of GPL zealots out there. Just because you have your own retarded/warped definition of open standard doesn't mean anyone else gives a shit.
Learn the difference between open standard, open source, and free because you clearly don't know the difference which is pretty much standard operating procedure for GPL zealots.
1. The court tends to call bullshit when its obvious you're going out of your way to facilitate breaking the law and using ignorance as an excuse. ... already done.
2. Thats a simple option for the software of all p2p software, the Internet had ways to deal with flow control before you ever connected to it.
3. So use SSL
4. Again, already done.
5. This creates a way to figure out who is hosting what, defeating #1 Of course, its kind of a requirement to know who is offering what so that you can figure out where to ask for it.
If you want something public to be useful, its not going to be private or completely anonymous, you're asking for mutually exclusive features.
Wow, you realize at some point it becomes easier to just buy the content you're trying to hide transfering than what you're doing right?
By the time your transfer is complete, the copyright will have expired, even at lifetime + 75 years.
Only on slashdot do you get modded insightful when you make a statement that starts with 'I thought'
By the time 'I'll give them to the mayor' even came up it was far past unacceptable, and was after several flat out lies, if you'd bother to get any facts.
He claimed:
He forgot them
He was locked out himself for month, even after working on the systems only a few hours early that day.
<Insert five or six more clear lies here/>
All of this before he was fired. They made far too many attempts to let him off the hook before they got pissed off.
They weren't given the definition of authorized persons by the prosecutors OR the defense ... those are the people who are responsible for presenting the information to the jurors.
The prosecution/defense didn't do it out of fear that it would be interpreted wrong and they wouldn't lose.
The end result is the same, the jurors figured it out for themselves based on common sense ... and guilty he became.
Awesome, you linked to an article ... which references laws that if interpreted wrongly, mean most people would be committing crimes on a daily basis.
Its always a good idea to use an article that takes anyone with a 3rd of a clue to realize is wrong as your citation.
Only on slashdot do you end up modded informative.
Why? Whats your plan? To run? Please explain how acting out of the ordinary is the right thing to do when you think the police may be involved.
Also please explain what rational reason you have for withdrawing money if you expect to go to deal with the police? The first thing they do when you get there is take your money away from you and put it in a secure location until you get released or transferred.
The common sense reaction would have been to assume that the single individual was acting irrational, not most of the city officials.
You assumed one man was acting sane and doing the right thing, and assumed many others were acting irrational and were ignorant of their job responsibilities.
Apology for being dumb accepted, but your still retarded for defending a apparently guilty Childs who did exist because you were too dumb to use even the slightest amount of common sense.
For the same reason Macs don't come with floppy drives.
At some point you have to move on. If they want to be the driving force behind dumping crap, more power too them. I for one haven't missed flash at all.
Uhm, wrong.
You most certainly CAN. You can't distribute references to the iPhone API. This is nothing new and developers have been dealing with this sort of thing for years. You create a very simple shim between your internal application model and the iPhone SDK bits and you don't distribute the shim. The rest is entirely distributable.
Its not hard really if you have half a clue.
The good side to this is, they'll cram it into a package and force it down everyones throat, meaning more people will use encryption. This will at the very least make encryption more well known and possibly get normal people talking about it. Right now theres really no reason for any normal person to use encryption, regardless of what the paranoid slashdotters say. This will help get people thinking about it even if they don't need it.
The bad side is, it'll be a bloated, slow pile of shit.
The ugly side is, it'll encrypt everything just fine, but the password input mechanism will come with your password already entered for you so all you and visible in clear text, effectively rendering it useless ... just like their AV products.
I think you need to take a better look at what happened.
They forked it. Then made it useable (sorry, its sad state beforehand was substandard and hardly worth mentioning). Then gave it back, to which the original team for khtml got all bitchy cause it was a massive patchset. Eventually giving in and working together to merge some changes.
KHTML wasn't complete, sorry.
Everything you've mentioned can and has been done without Flash. It just requires someone with more than a basic clue to do it. The only thing flash has going for it is a really good editor that allows even idiots to make things with it.
Too bad that isn't what happened to Terry Childs. He knew everyone involved and they were his superiors.
For how long? Wait till a real failure occurs and not be able to do anything about it? You've never been an admin, clearly.
Yes, if Childs wouldn't have tried to hold the city hostage it could have been over very quickly. But he didn't, he thought he was in control and the city would cave. He was wrong on so many levels. He got what he brought on himself, you're an idiot if you can't see that. He could have ended it at any instant he wanted to.
So what you think should have happened is he should have been left to do whatever the hell he wanted, and the city should have just left everything the way it was and not do anything because it was working at the time ... I don't know how to respond to such a retarded statement, wow ... just ... wow.
No, blackmail is illegal, which is what this was, try again.
Any moron who goes through what this idiot did rather than just turning over the passwords when they get fired deserves to be treated just like him. Had he actually followed the policy they wouldn't even have had to ASK for the passwords as he would have stored them in the cities password management system.
Everytime I see a post like yours I just laugh at how junior admins with half a clue side with idiots like this. Any halfway competent admin would have never been put in this situation in the first place. Any halfway intelligent human being would have just turned over the passwords and went looking for a new job.
Instead, this idiot will sit in jail and will never work anywhere in the IT industry again. You can act like he's a hero and you should make sure the next time you go look for a job you tell them exactly how great this guy was, save them the trouble of dealing with you and having to find out the hardware that you're worthless.
The reality of it is, the fact that the initial situation happened in the first place means he was a shitty admin. He may just be stupid or (the likely reason) he was just trying to blackmail them, eitherway, he's a waste of oxygen and food supplies.
Just for reference, the AppStore restrictions have nothing to do with 'proprietary'.
If you don't know the difference between proprietary and closed system you shouldn't be commenting.
The AppStore and everything on it could be entirely open source and still have the same approval process.
Likewise, you could have the anarchy of the Android store with totally proprietary applications.
People need to actually learn the words they are speaking or writing before writing them.
CmdrTaco clearly doesn't know the meaning of either of the words judging by his little jab.
If you think the jury was wrong, you should probably get the case facts and stop basing your opinions on what some shitty, more than likely unemployed slashdotters who not only think the guy is right, but don't even realize why the situation should have never occured.
He didn't follow proceedure in the first place ( by not storing the passwords in the system the city implemented for this purpose) ... Then tried to use some policies that applied to end user passwords ( not system admin passwords ) to justify his bullshit. What's more, he wasn't even following thouse policies properly.
The guy did absolutely nothing right because he was acting like an immature spoiled brat.
No sysadmin with half a clue is bothered by this, or is 'afraid of the ramifications')
So you live in America, the rest of the world is a little different.