Okay, first things first, before we can have an actual discussion, you have to be honest.
Claiming the models are excellent shows that you're either utterly ignorant of the topic at hand or you're flat out denying reality.
The models are constantly being adjusted and science is constantly finding reasons to account for their incorrect models that don't explain anything thats happened in the last 20 years. Denying this part of reality just makes it clear you're a 'believer', not someone who is actually thinking for themselves.
We can't even start a discussion until you actually accept reality, the models fucking suck. Its a massive, huge, unbelievably big system that we know pretty much dick about. Pretending the models are excellent is just wrong. They are better this year than they were last year, but excellent they are not.
When you come up with excuses to justify your over reaction, do you ever stop and think 'how many times am I going to have to blow off the 'deniers' before I consider maybe I'm over-reacting'? Do you ever consider that you're doing the same silly shit that the 'deniers' are doing when you utterly ignore any possibility that the world is not going to end next tuesday?
The reason the 'deniers' keep denying is because the 'believers' are so utterly ridiculous about the doom and gloom and any time any one questions the impending total collapse of society you keep espousing you go off the deep end and start the name calling.
Do you ever stop and consider that you don't actually know shit about climatology and that you're just falling right in with the cult as if you were a religious nut job (hint, most people who talking about global warming ARE RELIGIOUS NUT JOBS, just a different religion than most think of).
You haven't reviewed the data, you can't, its not public, so stop acting like you know any better than I do what the truth is. You're blindly believing a bunch of guys who spend their lives making money by claiming the climate is going to change and we're all going to die. You seem to be unaware that science is not free of politics any more than the presidential election is free from politics.
Improvements made to the system to increase server performance usually also wind up being good for desktop users.
Not really, and this is widely known and has been discussed repeatedly in many different forums including the kernel dev list.
Servers and desktops have largely different requirements and require different tunings. A task scheduler thats awesome for a server will generally suck for workstations and the same is true in the opposite direction. Some things are specific to the types of work loads involved. Desktops run a few threads and need them to respond in a specific way. Servers run tons of threads (as a general rule) and need them to respond in a different way.
The only way its 'good for the desktop' is because your desktop requirements are non-existent and aren't putting any stress on the system. In these cases, you're not going to notice any improvements anyway most likely.
Linux is and always had been tuned for the server side. You don't use Linux as an audio editing workstation for instance. Theres a reason.
Doesn't it? I don't have flash installed so it doesn't happen to me, but I seem to remember it beginning to occur recently if I visited slashdot with chrome
And I was making 1 million trillion billion dollars a year until September 1st as well. Because once something is posted to slashdot, it must be true... and nothing posted to slashdot never gets thoroughly debunked... ever...
... because using a password that anyone can guess means it was guessed by brute force? Thats what you're saying, right?
Show the proof it was brute force, not silly speculation. The account lockout procedure has been in place for several years across the board. Its not something they just added last week.
... After 3 to 6 attempts, your account requires additional authentication to login. You automatically get sent to Iforgot.apple.com for all new requests.
It wasn't a brute force attack nor was it recently patched unless you think 'years ago' is recent.
I would expect someone who reads the Democratic Party Newsletter to know who the majority whip is, but not really anyone else. Pretty much just like anyone on slashdot who isn't new should have hard of llvm and clang. Its a fairly common talking point for slashdot stories and comments.
If you don't know what LLVM and clang are, slashdot really isn't someplace you should visit frequently unless you willing to learn what they are.
Just because you're unfamiliar with networking administration doesn't mean this needs to blown up into "hire a network guy". That's just ignorance and
As someone who's been a network admin for a few years, I'm fairly confident in my statements. Do you do even minor surgery on yourself if you're not a surgeon? If you come to slashdot to ask how to do something for your business, you already fucked up and the only valid responses you should be getting from slashdot are help on finding someone who can help you. If he asked 'how do I find someone, like a consultant for a short term project, like this' that would be one thing. He didn't, he came here expecting a solution which illustrates his complete lack of understanding of the problem, THAT IS WHY he needs to hire a network guy.
He is, by definition, ignorant, which is why he is asking for help... clearly you are as well as your choice of words indicates. I suggest you learn what the word ignorant means before you brandish it about like an insult as you just end up insulting yourself through your own ignorance.
(I suspect) trying to make yourself sound important on an anonymous message board.
I have no need to make myself sound important, I certainly don't need your approval... and if you bother to google for my nick, you'll find its not even a little difficult to link to a real name, address, and everything else. I'm not in the least bit anonymous. People have been able to recognize that nick and its association with me for 20+ years. On the other hand... your post... is from... anonymous coward. Do you know the meaning of the word ironic?
As my granddaddy used to say, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to not open your mouth and prove it. So no need to apologize, just take the advice and consider it a lesson learned. Best of luck.
Your grand daddy said that too you a lot, didn't he? Did you ever wonder WHY he said it too you so much? Maybe he was trying to get some sort of point across to you... Go look in the mirror and repeat those words until you get the point of them and who he was talking about. Hint: Its the guy in the mirror.
You're an absolutely shitty troll. You just suck at it. Nothing you've said did anything other than show how stupid YOU are, not me.
The reverse-SSH tunnel is the correct way to "phone home". Maintaining a VPN is a shit show.
A blanket statement like this shows your cluelessness and shear ignorance.
Without considerably more information neither you nor I nor anyone else can make such a statement.
Pure Storage does it this way, and they are quite the experts.
Oh well, since a company thats barely 5 years old does it this way, and since their primary business line is selling flash drive arrays... not network administration and monitoring... they must be the most qualified and perfect example to follow.
IS IT the right way for THEM? Maybe. Maybe not. To pretend that just because they do it that way, they are experts again just shows your ignorance. Let me guess, you work for them on their monitoring team, don't you?
Or, do the right thing and hire a network admin so someone with a clue is involved.
If you have to ask this question on slashdot, you need to change the question to something appropriate. Based on exactly what was posted, he doesn't have any idea what his requirements are. He knows the conceptual goals, but not the actual goals or requirements. Unless he is trying to change careers from whatever he is to a full time network infrastructure person he is going to be wasting a lot of time getting a clue. That means time he won't be spending doing whatever his actual job is.
He needs someone who can look at his actual setup, figure what what actually needs monitored, and knows the appropriate ways to do it.
Short of multiple Bennett hasleton length posts, and many discussions in depth, no answer coming from slashdot or all of them combined is going to be useful.
Everyone here posting solutions has their own, certainly incorrect idea of what he wants but no one actually knows. No one so far has even started by asking the right questions. It's the blind leading the blind at best.
As hard as you're trying to be funny, these aren't rockets and it really isn't rocket science.
Orbital mechanics... maybe, rocket science, not even a little. The rocket science ended long ago before the 'cannon' was even installed on the station.
I have unfortunately. There is a reason they are 'friends'.
The police, DA, judge ARE buddy buddy, they see and work with each other every day, its dumb to expect them not to trust each other... but as soon as there is evidence rather than heresy they tend to back off and hang the cop out to dry. They protect the cop by default because 99 times out of 90, the 'victim' isn't a victim and is lying to deflect blame, get out of trouble or get some sort of money out of the police. Ferguson is a prime example of this. Multiple witnesses claiming the kid was shot in the back while running away with his hands up... yet all the bullet wounds show that to be complete and utter bullshit... all the wounds entered from the front, and the wounds in his arm made it clear they were not in the air when he was shot. This came from an autopsy done by someone hired by the victims mother, NOT the local government. THAT SHIT is why the judge/da believe the cop by default, and THAT is why cops get by with being thugs in some instances. That sort of shit is also why MANY of them ARE thugs, because they deal with the trashiest of trashy people most of the time. Thats their job, by definition.
These cameras will stop both sides from being such open and obvious racists. Well, no, it won't stop them, but it'll make it obvious for everyone else so we don't have riots in towns because a bunch of people wanted to cover each others asses and start shit because one guy was a different color than the other.
Dude, just fucking quit. You're idea is retarded. Everything you can come up with short of a MASSIVE EMP would leave obvious evidence of the tamper. The EMP size required would leave evidence as well in other ways that would be fairly easy to spot. You'd need a truly large EMP to destroy the recording of you trying to disable the device, and thats just not something thats going to go unnoticed... destroying flash memory for instance, is non-trivial without begin obvious.
Thats the point of a recording device like these, even if you cover your tracks by disabling it, you've still shown that you intentionally disabled it. You seem to live in some hollywood style world where all these cheese movie ploys work in the real world.
You weren't making a joke, you were being a dumbass, stop trying to pretend otherwise. Stop with the 'putting tape over the camera' ITS GOING TO RECORD YOUR HAND PUTTING TAPE OVER THE LENSE DUMBASS. It doesn't matter where you pull the tape from, its going to be easy to spot when the recording goes from working fine to suddenly having a black object slide over it and it goes dark... hmmm... I wonder what that could be?!?!?!? Just stop mentioning it. Its a stupid idea.
At no point in history did having a badge number have any meaning what so ever. This isn't Starsky and Hutch. Badge numbers are public information, now days you can find them on a website. Spewing one out of your mouth is as easy as spewing a random name you find on a police department roster. Its meaningless.
Records getting 'lost' is called 'spoliation of evidence'. When it happens in any trial, the police/DA are almost always assumed to be completely wrong/guilty from that point on as a matter of standard procedure... BY LAW. The problem you're trying to claim exist was solved years ago by making mysteriously disappearing evidence essentially an admission of guilt... BY LAW. Any 2 bit lawyer on the planet would have a field day with it.
... which is why they said 'IT costs are expected to quickly outstrip that amount'.
However, with that said, this really isn't any different than all the other evidence handling. Storage space is cheap and small. Throwing a few SD cards (or something with better lifetimes) into a box with the rest of the case information and keeping online copies for recent cases isn't really that big of a deal. They already do all this for photos, videos are hardly any more difficult to manage. Just another item in an existing process.
Realistically, once the kinks are worked out, this really shouldn't cost much extra at all.
step 4: When challenged by the victim as to police misconduct, assume the office is guilty in court and proceed with prejudice since you have a video of the officer disabling his camera.
Do you really think your idea is THAT clever? Do you REALLY think its not going to be obvious when there is video showing the officer putting tape over the camera?
Are you really that stupid? That question is directed at all the people that think 'putting black tape over the lens' is a way out. For fucks sake, how dumb do you think people are?
Hint: You aren't nearly as bright as you think and probably less so than the rest of the public who would watch the video of the cop putting tape over his camera and lying about why it was happening and convict him on the spot to prove the point.
Not being able to communicate with people you are hired to support is most certainly your problem. If she had no viable method to do the job, why did she accept it? That makes her pretty stupid from the start.
If you want to talk about practical, it started long before someone mentioned learning the language.
Do you think its okay for someone to claim they are a Java developer without knowing a single bit of Java?
So do mine, but I'm prepared for providing them service during holidays by having SLAs across my vendors that ensure they will be supported during those holidays.
I also test on random occasions my vendors ability to support these times by intentionally 'breaking' something or at least simulating a break.
What I don't do is act surprised that Joe's no name 'data center in my closet at home' isn't around to support my servers in his closet because its that time of year when he goes and does something else... at the same time... every year... for the past several hundred years... without any backup or any expectation of backup... which is essentially what this story is about.
If you need to provide 24/7 support, you plan for it. The story author apparently didn't plan for a well known (around the world) holiday and then got caught with his pants down. I've been there myself, made that mistake... I learned from it.
I did not, however come to slashdot and whine about it, in fact I tried not to tell a bunch of people about it, I get embarrassed when I make mistakes due to my own ignorance and lack of training.
The problem is the person complaining isn't very good at his job or prepared for situations that should be expected.
He seems to think getting something done during Carnival is supposed to be easier than getting anything done in France during August or over Christmas weekend in Spain or the USA.
There is very title in racing that is sexier than the silver and red Audi diesel LMP cars where the turbo blow off and transmission noise is louder than the engine noise, or at least it seems that way from trackside.
I was never a fan of Audi... but watching those cars at Petit Le Mons is a treat. It never bothers me when one of them beat out the guy I'm cheering for. Its okay to come in second (or third, since there are generally 2 Audi's in first and second) when the Audi's are who you're following. Sexy sexy sounding rides.
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And this is different than stocks how?
Okay, first things first, before we can have an actual discussion, you have to be honest.
Claiming the models are excellent shows that you're either utterly ignorant of the topic at hand or you're flat out denying reality.
The models are constantly being adjusted and science is constantly finding reasons to account for their incorrect models that don't explain anything thats happened in the last 20 years. Denying this part of reality just makes it clear you're a 'believer', not someone who is actually thinking for themselves.
We can't even start a discussion until you actually accept reality, the models fucking suck. Its a massive, huge, unbelievably big system that we know pretty much dick about. Pretending the models are excellent is just wrong. They are better this year than they were last year, but excellent they are not.
When you come up with excuses to justify your over reaction, do you ever stop and think 'how many times am I going to have to blow off the 'deniers' before I consider maybe I'm over-reacting'? Do you ever consider that you're doing the same silly shit that the 'deniers' are doing when you utterly ignore any possibility that the world is not going to end next tuesday?
The reason the 'deniers' keep denying is because the 'believers' are so utterly ridiculous about the doom and gloom and any time any one questions the impending total collapse of society you keep espousing you go off the deep end and start the name calling.
Do you ever stop and consider that you don't actually know shit about climatology and that you're just falling right in with the cult as if you were a religious nut job (hint, most people who talking about global warming ARE RELIGIOUS NUT JOBS, just a different religion than most think of).
You haven't reviewed the data, you can't, its not public, so stop acting like you know any better than I do what the truth is. You're blindly believing a bunch of guys who spend their lives making money by claiming the climate is going to change and we're all going to die. You seem to be unaware that science is not free of politics any more than the presidential election is free from politics.
Improvements made to the system to increase server performance usually also wind up being good for desktop users.
Not really, and this is widely known and has been discussed repeatedly in many different forums including the kernel dev list.
Servers and desktops have largely different requirements and require different tunings. A task scheduler thats awesome for a server will generally suck for workstations and the same is true in the opposite direction. Some things are specific to the types of work loads involved. Desktops run a few threads and need them to respond in a specific way. Servers run tons of threads (as a general rule) and need them to respond in a different way.
The only way its 'good for the desktop' is because your desktop requirements are non-existent and aren't putting any stress on the system. In these cases, you're not going to notice any improvements anyway most likely.
Linux is and always had been tuned for the server side. You don't use Linux as an audio editing workstation for instance. Theres a reason.
If slashdot ever decided to pull this shit
Doesn't it? I don't have flash installed so it doesn't happen to me, but I seem to remember it beginning to occur recently if I visited slashdot with chrome
And I was making 1 million trillion billion dollars a year until September 1st as well. Because once something is posted to slashdot, it must be true ... and nothing posted to slashdot never gets thoroughly debunked ... ever ...
... because using a password that anyone can guess means it was guessed by brute force? Thats what you're saying, right?
Show the proof it was brute force, not silly speculation. The account lockout procedure has been in place for several years across the board. Its not something they just added last week.
... After 3 to 6 attempts, your account requires additional authentication to login. You automatically get sent to Iforgot.apple.com for all new requests.
It wasn't a brute force attack nor was it recently patched unless you think 'years ago' is recent.
His analogy holds up pretty much perfectly.
I would expect someone who reads the Democratic Party Newsletter to know who the majority whip is, but not really anyone else. Pretty much just like anyone on slashdot who isn't new should have hard of llvm and clang. Its a fairly common talking point for slashdot stories and comments.
If you don't know what LLVM and clang are, slashdot really isn't someplace you should visit frequently unless you willing to learn what they are.
though I doubt it'll ever support my platform of choice
Really? What platform would you be referring too, I'm genuinely curious.
Just because you're unfamiliar with networking administration doesn't mean this needs to blown up into "hire a network guy". That's just ignorance and
As someone who's been a network admin for a few years, I'm fairly confident in my statements. Do you do even minor surgery on yourself if you're not a surgeon? If you come to slashdot to ask how to do something for your business, you already fucked up and the only valid responses you should be getting from slashdot are help on finding someone who can help you. If he asked 'how do I find someone, like a consultant for a short term project, like this' that would be one thing. He didn't, he came here expecting a solution which illustrates his complete lack of understanding of the problem, THAT IS WHY he needs to hire a network guy.
He is, by definition, ignorant, which is why he is asking for help ... clearly you are as well as your choice of words indicates. I suggest you learn what the word ignorant means before you brandish it about like an insult as you just end up insulting yourself through your own ignorance.
(I suspect) trying to make yourself sound important on an anonymous message board.
I have no need to make myself sound important, I certainly don't need your approval ... and if you bother to google for my nick, you'll find its not even a little difficult to link to a real name, address, and everything else. I'm not in the least bit anonymous. People have been able to recognize that nick and its association with me for 20+ years. On the other hand ... your post ... is from ... anonymous coward. Do you know the meaning of the word ironic?
As my granddaddy used to say, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to not open your mouth and prove it. So no need to apologize, just take the advice and consider it a lesson learned. Best of luck.
Your grand daddy said that too you a lot, didn't he? Did you ever wonder WHY he said it too you so much? Maybe he was trying to get some sort of point across to you ... Go look in the mirror and repeat those words until you get the point of them and who he was talking about. Hint: Its the guy in the mirror.
You're an absolutely shitty troll. You just suck at it. Nothing you've said did anything other than show how stupid YOU are, not me.
The reverse-SSH tunnel is the correct way to "phone home". Maintaining a VPN is a shit show.
A blanket statement like this shows your cluelessness and shear ignorance.
Without considerably more information neither you nor I nor anyone else can make such a statement.
Pure Storage does it this way, and they are quite the experts.
Oh well, since a company thats barely 5 years old does it this way, and since their primary business line is selling flash drive arrays ... not network administration and monitoring ... they must be the most qualified and perfect example to follow.
IS IT the right way for THEM? Maybe. Maybe not. To pretend that just because they do it that way, they are experts again just shows your ignorance. Let me guess, you work for them on their monitoring team, don't you?
Or, do the right thing and hire a network admin so someone with a clue is involved.
If you have to ask this question on slashdot, you need to change the question to something appropriate. Based on exactly what was posted, he doesn't have any idea what his requirements are. He knows the conceptual goals, but not the actual goals or requirements. Unless he is trying to change careers from whatever he is to a full time network infrastructure person he is going to be wasting a lot of time getting a clue. That means time he won't be spending doing whatever his actual job is.
He needs someone who can look at his actual setup, figure what what actually needs monitored, and knows the appropriate ways to do it.
Short of multiple Bennett hasleton length posts, and many discussions in depth, no answer coming from slashdot or all of them combined is going to be useful.
Everyone here posting solutions has their own, certainly incorrect idea of what he wants but no one actually knows. No one so far has even started by asking the right questions. It's the blind leading the blind at best.
No, infrared filters are standard now on cameras that aren't meant to be easily fooled.
That hasn't worked in years.
As hard as you're trying to be funny, these aren't rockets and it really isn't rocket science.
Orbital mechanics ... maybe, rocket science, not even a little. The rocket science ended long ago before the 'cannon' was even installed on the station.
No, you just do it when he's not on duty ... kind of like they do now. Perhaps its time to lay off the smoke man
I have unfortunately. There is a reason they are 'friends'.
The police, DA, judge ARE buddy buddy, they see and work with each other every day, its dumb to expect them not to trust each other ... but as soon as there is evidence rather than heresy they tend to back off and hang the cop out to dry. They protect the cop by default because 99 times out of 90, the 'victim' isn't a victim and is lying to deflect blame, get out of trouble or get some sort of money out of the police. Ferguson is a prime example of this. Multiple witnesses claiming the kid was shot in the back while running away with his hands up ... yet all the bullet wounds show that to be complete and utter bullshit ... all the wounds entered from the front, and the wounds in his arm made it clear they were not in the air when he was shot. This came from an autopsy done by someone hired by the victims mother, NOT the local government. THAT SHIT is why the judge/da believe the cop by default, and THAT is why cops get by with being thugs in some instances. That sort of shit is also why MANY of them ARE thugs, because they deal with the trashiest of trashy people most of the time. Thats their job, by definition.
These cameras will stop both sides from being such open and obvious racists. Well, no, it won't stop them, but it'll make it obvious for everyone else so we don't have riots in towns because a bunch of people wanted to cover each others asses and start shit because one guy was a different color than the other.
Dude, just fucking quit. You're idea is retarded. Everything you can come up with short of a MASSIVE EMP would leave obvious evidence of the tamper. The EMP size required would leave evidence as well in other ways that would be fairly easy to spot. You'd need a truly large EMP to destroy the recording of you trying to disable the device, and thats just not something thats going to go unnoticed ... destroying flash memory for instance, is non-trivial without begin obvious.
Thats the point of a recording device like these, even if you cover your tracks by disabling it, you've still shown that you intentionally disabled it. You seem to live in some hollywood style world where all these cheese movie ploys work in the real world.
You weren't making a joke, you were being a dumbass, stop trying to pretend otherwise. Stop with the 'putting tape over the camera' ITS GOING TO RECORD YOUR HAND PUTTING TAPE OVER THE LENSE DUMBASS. It doesn't matter where you pull the tape from, its going to be easy to spot when the recording goes from working fine to suddenly having a black object slide over it and it goes dark ... hmmm ... I wonder what that could be?!?!?!? Just stop mentioning it. Its a stupid idea.
At no point in history did having a badge number have any meaning what so ever. This isn't Starsky and Hutch. Badge numbers are public information, now days you can find them on a website. Spewing one out of your mouth is as easy as spewing a random name you find on a police department roster. Its meaningless.
Records getting 'lost' is called 'spoliation of evidence'. When it happens in any trial, the police/DA are almost always assumed to be completely wrong/guilty from that point on as a matter of standard procedure ... BY LAW. The problem you're trying to claim exist was solved years ago by making mysteriously disappearing evidence essentially an admission of guilt ... BY LAW. Any 2 bit lawyer on the planet would have a field day with it.
Can't see it going very far with 60K
... which is why they said 'IT costs are expected to quickly outstrip that amount'.
However, with that said, this really isn't any different than all the other evidence handling. Storage space is cheap and small. Throwing a few SD cards (or something with better lifetimes) into a box with the rest of the case information and keeping online copies for recent cases isn't really that big of a deal. They already do all this for photos, videos are hardly any more difficult to manage. Just another item in an existing process.
Realistically, once the kinks are worked out, this really shouldn't cost much extra at all.
step 4: When challenged by the victim as to police misconduct, assume the office is guilty in court and proceed with prejudice since you have a video of the officer disabling his camera.
Do you really think your idea is THAT clever? Do you REALLY think its not going to be obvious when there is video showing the officer putting tape over the camera?
Are you really that stupid? That question is directed at all the people that think 'putting black tape over the lens' is a way out. For fucks sake, how dumb do you think people are?
Hint: You aren't nearly as bright as you think and probably less so than the rest of the public who would watch the video of the cop putting tape over his camera and lying about why it was happening and convict him on the spot to prove the point.
Not being able to communicate with people you are hired to support is most certainly your problem. If she had no viable method to do the job, why did she accept it? That makes her pretty stupid from the start.
If you want to talk about practical, it started long before someone mentioned learning the language.
Do you think its okay for someone to claim they are a Java developer without knowing a single bit of Java?
***woooooosh
If you're sitting on the phone, you probably can't hear whats being said or talk to the person on the other end.
It was a joke.
So do mine, but I'm prepared for providing them service during holidays by having SLAs across my vendors that ensure they will be supported during those holidays.
I also test on random occasions my vendors ability to support these times by intentionally 'breaking' something or at least simulating a break.
What I don't do is act surprised that Joe's no name 'data center in my closet at home' isn't around to support my servers in his closet because its that time of year when he goes and does something else ... at the same time ... every year ... for the past several hundred years ... without any backup or any expectation of backup ... which is essentially what this story is about.
If you need to provide 24/7 support, you plan for it. The story author apparently didn't plan for a well known (around the world) holiday and then got caught with his pants down. I've been there myself, made that mistake ... I learned from it.
I did not, however come to slashdot and whine about it, in fact I tried not to tell a bunch of people about it, I get embarrassed when I make mistakes due to my own ignorance and lack of training.
The problem is the person complaining isn't very good at his job or prepared for situations that should be expected.
He seems to think getting something done during Carnival is supposed to be easier than getting anything done in France during August or over Christmas weekend in Spain or the USA.
There is very title in racing that is sexier than the silver and red Audi diesel LMP cars where the turbo blow off and transmission noise is louder than the engine noise, or at least it seems that way from trackside.
I was never a fan of Audi ... but watching those cars at Petit Le Mons is a treat. It never bothers me when one of them beat out the guy I'm cheering for. Its okay to come in second (or third, since there are generally 2 Audi's in first and second) when the Audi's are who you're following. Sexy sexy sounding rides.