This would have negated any issues that Princeton's networks were seeing. Properly configured, the only impact would've been that offending DHCP clients would not be able to use the network until they get a proper DHCP lease. There'd be no manual banning or need to contact your user. The user would probably contact you.
All of the major networking hardware manufactures have some flavor of it: Cisco, HP, even Juniper claims to. I'd imagine the Princeton network uses something that would support this feature.
*The particular related technology in Cisco world is "IP ARP Inspection".
Did you even rtfa? No one's name was taken. The only mention of that was by you in an attempt to relate to what you thought was going on in tfa you clearly didn't r. While that makes for nice fodder, it really adds nothing worthwhile.
Interesting story though. Maybe they really ARE out to get you.
Re: up with the times... Slackware has never tried to be up with the times. They're just now allowing 2.6 kernel (from the installer). Firefox is still a 1.0.x release so its not as stable as the mozilla suite has been (though its pretty good). I think Pat just lets everyone else work out the bugs before he incorporates it into his release. Stability and Ease of Use.
Kids could not care less about listening to someone talk....especially about the history of something. Why not bring in a big box with the components of a computer...and ask them what each one is. Maybe have the drives in the chassis already or whatever your time will allow. Maybe ask for a few volunteers and guide them in installing a piece or two. Involve them, give them something to look at, show them something they've probably never seen and they'll be eating out of your hands (and most importantly sitting down and listening, as opposed to running around their mother singing loudly while she tells the child that they have til she gets to 3 to sit down or....)
Show them the finished product of a Windows screen or if you're feeling froggy (and have already set up the drive) a cute little Penguin... then you might hear a gasp or two.
I personally feel that ignoring them is a far better approach... Let them waste their time and effort mailing these things out to get no response.
Why not respond to them with registered mail. Address it to Darl McBride so that he personally would have to sign for each piece of mail that is sent in reply to these extortion letters. Maybe we could make it so that he doesn't have time to send out these letters because he's busy signing registered letters from users who are being extorted.
It won't be our generation that is affected by this alteration/deletion
I guess emphasis should've been added to "this" so that you'd note I was referring to this particular instance. I'm sure that Revisionists have worked their way into our history books, and worked to make sure only their ideas were expressed in our anthologies through the years. I think we're trying to correct an instance of this by recognizing the contributions of black americans in the history of the US.
I was simply pointing out that history could possibly be none the wiser if something's not done to correct this situation.
I remember reading 1984 and being simply enthralled by it. I read it with the security of knowing that this could never happen, because information was so available, and redundant that we'd never have to worry about any power "reshaping history." It just couldn't be done.
It won't be our generation that is affected by this alteration/deletion. But if we allow this to continue then our past, as "remembered" by the future, will be skewed to the finaglings of the "powers that be."
A lotta folks are saying they don't understand why theres not some huge network of volunteers that are helping out. I'd also think that this would be beneficial to the entire digitized world, but for the simple fact that I would not want my charity to be used by a company to make their $$. If however someone with more time/programming-skills than I decided they'd lend their time to building a free solution then I'm sure volunteers would pop out of the wood work. (Free as in, the cd's and data distributed by users who aren't searching on the web.)
I think this is a straight-forward approach but there are problems that need to be addressed.
How will they implement the latencies and delays that commonly befall the internet.
Where will the millions of unique traffic-data originate.
How will they mimic the different styles of hacking.
It would be interesting to see how they implement this network.
Are they going to be two seperate networks.
Will they be one network connected over an existing internet link?
If they connect over an existing internet link how will they deal with that connection as its no longer a simulation
I don't think that we have a requirement to see any of the information that I've questioned above but this information could lead/. to be more informed on this situation.
and would be of the most benefit to the users... ---> You thought wrong. New features are the ones that meet a need
It would appear to me that if the features benefit the user then it has met a need, that of the user.
There are currently request mechanisms in place that provide for new feature requests to be made. The developers/programmers weigh the number of requests against each other, along with other tradeoffs and work in what they feel will be the most beneficial to the project. I see no need in having a pay-for-inclusion model when the one being used is satisfactory and provides results on par or better than what I fear the pay-for-inclusion model would render.
Another benefit of the OSS-model is that the code is reviewed and if there is a better, more cost-efficient way of doing things then the codes is reworked/massaged so that the code serves the users as best as it can, and in so doing being "technically best." (see above quote, or parent)
I thought that the push behind open source was that the features that were technically best, and would be of the most benefit to the users were the ones that were added. That may not always be the case if the model of "fund-raising" is adopted, so that the wealthiest are able to control the feature-list of OSS. If you'll adopt a reasonably paranoid outlook then the implications should be obvious. Personally, this is a bit unsettling
...contains only howto's from the LDP. This way you can support the cause as well as having an offline copy of the howto's to browse. In a "paperless world" sometimes having a book is nice still.
now have no footing to stand on. At least not if their argument was "Apple does it and is praised, if M$ does it they get hammered, whats up?" Anyway, I'm glad to see corporate reliability and responsibility in the industry
Yeah, today we know that they are hiding something. I guess tomorrow they hope for us to "know" that this never happened and that we've always been allied with the Iraqi government and people. Doublethink?
Theres is a pretty good attempt at Doublespeak right?
I agree that me having to support a spammer in the "Big House" repulses me. I like the idea of them paying a fine also. Seems like they could work some community service in with it for an extra touch to help expedite the results of any contributions they may make to society.
Since I doubt we'll ever see a lawsuit involving children going around biting stuff and running from ghosts as a result of playing pac-man then I'll assume its not an issue of video games specifically. If that is the case then couldn't frivolous lawsuit seekers also "assist" people who've been afflicted mentally while playing Monopoly? Suppose a property owner decides to tear down a house and build a hotel. Whats it cost, a few thousand dollars? Well after tearing down the house and realizing that hotels cost more than they do in Monopoly, he decides to sue Hasbro for not instilling in him the consequences of tearing down the house?
You might consider this a stretch but that is obviously something that the victims bringing this suit think is reasonable to have a game provide; the instilling of consequences in all who play their games. Thats the job of those who commit to bring a child up.
The people of this entire country are expecting the public services of this nation to raise their children. In Bush's campaigning he called for teacher accountability. I'm all for that. I'm sure there are teachers who sit back and watch movies and failing the students miserably. But what about the teachers who do present their students with learning opportunities? They have to teach them about sex, because their parents will not. They have to teach them manners because the parents aren't going to. They have to teach respect, although often times they won't get the same respect from the parents as the parents are expecting them to teach their children. Who is going to hold the parents accountable? How are we going to put a stop to the laziness and get back to teaching kids right from wrong before they leave the house and go to school? What happened to spending time with your kids so that you know what they're doing, what they like to do, how they behave in public, the state of their mind, how often their mind is alterred through the use of drugs?
I'm not a parent yet, but I have one of the most well-behaved dogs there are. I don't expect anyone else to make her behave. I didn't expect anyone else to teach her that sit means I wanted her butt on the ground. I spent time with her and she learned. She knows whats right and wrong, made evident by her looking around guiltily before she chews on a flower or digs somewhere. Granted labradors are smart, but if I can do that with her shouldn't a parent be able to spend a little time with their kids and make them more well-behaved and realistic in whats right and wrong?
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This would have negated any issues that Princeton's networks were seeing. Properly configured, the only impact would've been that offending DHCP clients would not be able to use the network until they get a proper DHCP lease. There'd be no manual banning or need to contact your user. The user would probably contact you. All of the major networking hardware manufactures have some flavor of it: Cisco, HP, even Juniper claims to. I'd imagine the Princeton network uses something that would support this feature. *The particular related technology in Cisco world is "IP ARP Inspection".
Did you even rtfa? No one's name was taken. The only mention of that was by you in an attempt to relate to what you thought was going on in tfa you clearly didn't r. While that makes for nice fodder, it really adds nothing worthwhile.
Interesting story though. Maybe they really ARE out to get you.
Re: up with the times... Slackware has never tried to be up with the times. They're just now allowing 2.6 kernel (from the installer). Firefox is still a 1.0.x release so its not as stable as the mozilla suite has been (though its pretty good). I think Pat just lets everyone else work out the bugs before he incorporates it into his release. Stability and Ease of Use.
Kids could not care less about listening to someone talk ....especially about the history of something. Why not bring in a big box with the components of a computer...and ask them what each one is. Maybe have the drives in the chassis already or whatever your time will allow. Maybe ask for a few volunteers and guide them in installing a piece or two. Involve them, give them something to look at, show them something they've probably never seen and they'll be eating out of your hands (and most importantly sitting down and listening, as opposed to running around their mother singing loudly while she tells the child that they have til she gets to 3 to sit down or....)
Show them the finished product of a Windows screen or if you're feeling froggy (and have already set up the drive) a cute little Penguin... then you might hear a gasp or two.
It looks like all it took to 0wn about ½ of the replying slashdotters was 11 pages of pdf.
I personally feel that ignoring them is a far better approach... Let them waste their time and effort mailing these things out to get no response.
Why not respond to them with registered mail. Address it to Darl McBride so that he personally would have to sign for each piece of mail that is sent in reply to these extortion letters. Maybe we could make it so that he doesn't have time to send out these letters because he's busy signing registered letters from users who are being extorted.
It's more frustrating that way.
I guess emphasis should've been added to "this" so that you'd note I was referring to this particular instance. I'm sure that Revisionists have worked their way into our history books, and worked to make sure only their ideas were expressed in our anthologies through the years. I think we're trying to correct an instance of this by recognizing the contributions of black americans in the history of the US.
I was simply pointing out that history could possibly be none the wiser if something's not done to correct this situation.
It won't be our generation that is affected by this alteration/deletion. But if we allow this to continue then our past, as "remembered" by the future, will be skewed to the finaglings of the "powers that be."
A lotta folks are saying they don't understand why theres not some huge network of volunteers that are helping out. I'd also think that this would be beneficial to the entire digitized world, but for the simple fact that I would not want my charity to be used by a company to make their $$. If however someone with more time/programming-skills than I decided they'd lend their time to building a free solution then I'm sure volunteers would pop out of the wood work. (Free as in, the cd's and data distributed by users who aren't searching on the web.)
It would be interesting to see how they implement this network.
I don't think that we have a requirement to see any of the information that I've questioned above but this information could lead /. to be more informed on this situation.
You thought wrong. New features are the ones that meet a need
It would appear to me that if the features benefit the user then it has met a need, that of the user.
There are currently request mechanisms in place that provide for new feature requests to be made. The developers/programmers weigh the number of requests against each other, along with other tradeoffs and work in what they feel will be the most beneficial to the project. I see no need in having a pay-for-inclusion model when the one being used is satisfactory and provides results on par or better than what I fear the pay-for-inclusion model would render.
Another benefit of the OSS-model is that the code is reviewed and if there is a better, more cost-efficient way of doing things then the codes is reworked/massaged so that the code serves the users as best as it can, and in so doing being "technically best." (see above quote, or parent)
I thought that the push behind open source was that the features that were technically best, and would be of the most benefit to the users were the ones that were added. That may not always be the case if the model of "fund-raising" is adopted, so that the wealthiest are able to control the feature-list of OSS. If you'll adopt a reasonably paranoid outlook then the implications should be obvious. Personally, this is a bit unsettling
...contains only howto's from the LDP. This way you can support the cause as well as having an offline copy of the howto's to browse. In a "paperless world" sometimes having a book is nice still.
now have no footing to stand on. At least not if their argument was "Apple does it and is praised, if M$ does it they get hammered, whats up?" Anyway, I'm glad to see corporate reliability and responsibility in the industry
Yeah, today we know that they are hiding something. I guess tomorrow they hope for us to "know" that this never happened and that we've always been allied with the Iraqi government and people. Doublethink?
Theres is a pretty good attempt at Doublespeak right?
I agree that me having to support a spammer in the "Big House" repulses me. I like the idea of them paying a fine also. Seems like they could work some community service in with it for an extra touch to help expedite the results of any contributions they may make to society.
Since I doubt we'll ever see a lawsuit involving children going around biting stuff and running from ghosts as a result of playing pac-man then I'll assume its not an issue of video games specifically. If that is the case then couldn't frivolous lawsuit seekers also "assist" people who've been afflicted mentally while playing Monopoly? Suppose a property owner decides to tear down a house and build a hotel. Whats it cost, a few thousand dollars? Well after tearing down the house and realizing that hotels cost more than they do in Monopoly, he decides to sue Hasbro for not instilling in him the consequences of tearing down the house?
You might consider this a stretch but that is obviously something that the victims bringing this suit think is reasonable to have a game provide; the instilling of consequences in all who play their games. Thats the job of those who commit to bring a child up.
The people of this entire country are expecting the public services of this nation to raise their children. In Bush's campaigning he called for teacher accountability. I'm all for that. I'm sure there are teachers who sit back and watch movies and failing the students miserably. But what about the teachers who do present their students with learning opportunities? They have to teach them about sex, because their parents will not. They have to teach them manners because the parents aren't going to. They have to teach respect, although often times they won't get the same respect from the parents as the parents are expecting them to teach their children. Who is going to hold the parents accountable? How are we going to put a stop to the laziness and get back to teaching kids right from wrong before they leave the house and go to school? What happened to spending time with your kids so that you know what they're doing, what they like to do, how they behave in public, the state of their mind, how often their mind is alterred through the use of drugs?
I'm not a parent yet, but I have one of the most well-behaved dogs there are. I don't expect anyone else to make her behave. I didn't expect anyone else to teach her that sit means I wanted her butt on the ground. I spent time with her and she learned. She knows whats right and wrong, made evident by her looking around guiltily before she chews on a flower or digs somewhere. Granted labradors are smart, but if I can do that with her shouldn't a parent be able to spend a little time with their kids and make them more well-behaved and realistic in whats right and wrong?