As near as anyone can tell the Safari projects goals are perfectly in line with khtml's.
Unless the KHTML people have as a secret goal to make lots of money for Apple, that's clearly not true.
Everything Apple or any other for-profit corporation does has the same goal, which isn't shared by most OSS projects.
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Apple's not required to give the KHTML people anything. All the LGPL requires of them is to make the source to WebCore available to anyone who buys a copy of OS X. Apple has no obligation to KHTML, so how they release the source is completely moot. There's no potential for legal action, and no one who knows what they're talking about has claimed there is.
What bothers the KHTML people is the perception that Apple's supporting them by contributing to KHTML, not the fact that Apple's not doing so.
Sure, they're willing to license it to one company that they had a close business relationship with for years. That's very different than a willingness to license it to anyone who's going to directly compete with the iPod.
Nah... if they were going to start selling movies, we'd be hearing rumors that Apple is buying up some big movie studio, followed by speculation that it's a plot by Jobs to get Pixar a good distribution deal, hundreds of Slashdotters screaming about how Apple will die if it branches out and becomes a media company, followed by disappointment when people find out they're actually just going to be selling movies online.
If you were using iTunes as it's designed to be used (letting it organize your music instead of importing your whole library that you're organizing yourself every time you update it, so you can sync to your iPod), you wouldn't have that problem.
Have you requested the feature/reported it as a bug to Apple? If not, it's unlikely anyone else has, as it works for the way they expect users to be using it.
The icons were there about a year and a half ago. I wouldn't count on actual ogg support being "on the horizon", as it hasn't materialized in that time.
Since when is the goal of any Linux to make money for Apple?
Apple is a corporation. Their only goal is to make profits. They don't see porting iTMS to Linux to be a good business move, the same way most game manufacturers don't see making games for either OS X or Linux to be a good business move.
Revenue growth in the last fiscal year was 14.40%. Earnings were down, but still positive.
I'm not suggesting that MSFT is necessarily a good stock to invest in. Their P/E is probably a bit high, and you can point to all the stats you want to show why their stock price might go down in the near to mid term.
But you're a freakin' idiot if you think this means they're going to go out of business.
Yes, there are materials that, when cooled, demonstrate superconductivity.
Yes, it's possible to use this property to design electronic equipment that performs better than traditional semiconductors do.
Yes, many of the materials in your computer might become superconductive if cooled sufficiently.
But no, you're unlikely to make your computer work better by turning materials that were designed specifically to work when they're not superconducting into superconductors.
In the last 12 months, they've had almost 39 billion dollars in revenue. The fact that no one you personally know is contributing to that revenue proves nothing.
And no, I won't be buying their stock. I don't buy their products either. See, I hate Microsoft and wish they would go away. I'm just not a moron who's going to claim their business is failing based on no facts whatsoever.
Not to be nit-picking, but gold is rarely encountered in anything other than a frozen state, as its melting point is quite a bit higher than most people find comfortable. (~2000 degrees F).
Do you think it's a coincidence that your user ID seems to indicate that you've been on Slashdot for "about a year or two"?
The average person who doesn't self-identify as a nerd doesn't moan about Microsoft sucking. Look at their total market share. Sure it might slip a few percentage points here and there, but it's still huge, which shows that the majority of people still buy their products. Claims that they've "lost their midshare" are ridiculous when you consider that there's no other OS that even comes close in terms of market share.
Bash Microsoft all you want, but don't underestimate them.
Exactly. You might as well claim it's a serious security flaw that I could release a program which asks for your admin password to install and then formats your hard drive.
Except that's not one of Apple's selling points; it's FUD spread by Windows and Linux zealots who like to think their computers are more suitable for expert users.
Do you think including sudo is "unfortunate" because of all the damage you can do to your machine with it?
He can, however, claim to speak for the Catholic Church (much more plausibly than he can claim to speak for God), which was the topic being discussed in this thread.
And no, I don't believe the position of the Pope or of the rest of the Catholic Church is at all relevant to the scientific merits of evolution, the heliocentric model of the universe, or any other scientific theory. In this specific discussion, however, it was pointed out that the Catholic Church accepts that evolution is an acceptable theory (to his credit, the last Pope, not being a scientist, did not attempt to establish whether it's true or not), which doesn't contradict Christian faith or the Church's teachings. Grandparent poster claimed "the Church" did no such thing, but just "some Catholic" might have, which is ridiculous.
Anyone claiming that Congress will never be able to pass a law mandating the broadcast flag because it would prevent Joe Sixpack from recording [insert show here] doesn't understand the broadcast flag at all. It doesn't prevent the recording of anything. It prevents certain types of use of the recordings after they're made, but not in a way that's going to affect the average consumer who just wants to timeshift shows.
I realize that in demonizing a bad policy, a lot of people are going to ignore the facts and go overboard, but please don't assume that the general public is going to share you opinion when you reasoning for why they'd share it is based entirely on lies about what the flag would actually do. The average voter probably doesn't care a bit about fair use of his recorded content, as long as he can watch it, any more than the average iTMS buyer thinks that Fairplay is evil just because it's DRM, as long as he can listen to the music he bought.
The act itself claims that its purpose is to regulate interstate commerce, which Congress is explicitly granted the power to do.
Granted, that might sound like a load of crap (as it does to many people any time Congress does something that it classifies as "regulating interstate commerce"), but you're going to need to convince the Supreme Court of that, not a bunch of people on Slashdot.
What we should be asking is why they're trying to define science in the first place.
Are they teaching science, or are they teaching philosophy? Quite frankly, I'd love to see philosophy of science taught in every high school in the country, but it's never going to happen. We're talking about a country where "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" is considered a bad title because no one wants to hear about philosophers.
Yes, we should teach kids how science works and how to critically evaluate scientific theories. But not without background, as a way to say that evolution is "just" a theory, and that therefore any other theory has equal status. If you suggested that the theory of phlogiston had equal standing with the theory that oxygen is involved in combustion, no one would take you seriously.
It's hard to trust them when they already removed evolution from the curriculum. Of course, they changed their mind when the University of Kansas told them they wouldn't be able to accept any students from public schools in Kansas anymore.
Umm, I'd imagine that the sysadmin of the place running a contest to see if anyone can hack his server is probably aware of the contest, and not dumb enough to help you hack it. It's not like they're asking you to hack some random server whose admins are completely unaware of it.
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Unless the KHTML people have as a secret goal to make lots of money for Apple, that's clearly not true.
Everything Apple or any other for-profit corporation does has the same goal, which isn't shared by most OSS projects.
What bothers the KHTML people is the perception that Apple's supporting them by contributing to KHTML, not the fact that Apple's not doing so.
Sure, they're willing to license it to one company that they had a close business relationship with for years. That's very different than a willingness to license it to anyone who's going to directly compete with the iPod.
An application that does so is broken. Your statement is like saying "an application should save my file when I print."
Nah... if they were going to start selling movies, we'd be hearing rumors that Apple is buying up some big movie studio, followed by speculation that it's a plot by Jobs to get Pixar a good distribution deal, hundreds of Slashdotters screaming about how Apple will die if it branches out and becomes a media company, followed by disappointment when people find out they're actually just going to be selling movies online.
Have you requested the feature/reported it as a bug to Apple? If not, it's unlikely anyone else has, as it works for the way they expect users to be using it.
The icons were there about a year and a half ago. I wouldn't count on actual ogg support being "on the horizon", as it hasn't materialized in that time.
Apple is a corporation. Their only goal is to make profits. They don't see porting iTMS to Linux to be a good business move, the same way most game manufacturers don't see making games for either OS X or Linux to be a good business move.
I'm not suggesting that MSFT is necessarily a good stock to invest in. Their P/E is probably a bit high, and you can point to all the stats you want to show why their stock price might go down in the near to mid term.
But you're a freakin' idiot if you think this means they're going to go out of business.
Yes, there are materials that, when cooled, demonstrate superconductivity.
Yes, it's possible to use this property to design electronic equipment that performs better than traditional semiconductors do. Yes, many of the materials in your computer might become superconductive if cooled sufficiently.
But no, you're unlikely to make your computer work better by turning materials that were designed specifically to work when they're not superconducting into superconductors.
And no, I won't be buying their stock. I don't buy their products either. See, I hate Microsoft and wish they would go away. I'm just not a moron who's going to claim their business is failing based on no facts whatsoever.
Umm, Sam Walton's been dead for years, and he's probably not keeping more than he needs.
Not to be nit-picking, but gold is rarely encountered in anything other than a frozen state, as its melting point is quite a bit higher than most people find comfortable. (~2000 degrees F).
The average person who doesn't self-identify as a nerd doesn't moan about Microsoft sucking. Look at their total market share. Sure it might slip a few percentage points here and there, but it's still huge, which shows that the majority of people still buy their products. Claims that they've "lost their midshare" are ridiculous when you consider that there's no other OS that even comes close in terms of market share.
Bash Microsoft all you want, but don't underestimate them.
Exactly. You might as well claim it's a serious security flaw that I could release a program which asks for your admin password to install and then formats your hard drive.
Do you think including sudo is "unfortunate" because of all the damage you can do to your machine with it?
And no, I don't believe the position of the Pope or of the rest of the Catholic Church is at all relevant to the scientific merits of evolution, the heliocentric model of the universe, or any other scientific theory. In this specific discussion, however, it was pointed out that the Catholic Church accepts that evolution is an acceptable theory (to his credit, the last Pope, not being a scientist, did not attempt to establish whether it's true or not), which doesn't contradict Christian faith or the Church's teachings. Grandparent poster claimed "the Church" did no such thing, but just "some Catholic" might have, which is ridiculous.
Have a nice day.
I realize that in demonizing a bad policy, a lot of people are going to ignore the facts and go overboard, but please don't assume that the general public is going to share you opinion when you reasoning for why they'd share it is based entirely on lies about what the flag would actually do. The average voter probably doesn't care a bit about fair use of his recorded content, as long as he can watch it, any more than the average iTMS buyer thinks that Fairplay is evil just because it's DRM, as long as he can listen to the music he bought.
Granted, that might sound like a load of crap (as it does to many people any time Congress does something that it classifies as "regulating interstate commerce"), but you're going to need to convince the Supreme Court of that, not a bunch of people on Slashdot.
If you're familiar with the doctrine of infallibility, you'll have to admit that the Pope isn't just "someone within the catholic church."
Are they teaching science, or are they teaching philosophy? Quite frankly, I'd love to see philosophy of science taught in every high school in the country, but it's never going to happen. We're talking about a country where "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" is considered a bad title because no one wants to hear about philosophers.
Yes, we should teach kids how science works and how to critically evaluate scientific theories. But not without background, as a way to say that evolution is "just" a theory, and that therefore any other theory has equal status. If you suggested that the theory of phlogiston had equal standing with the theory that oxygen is involved in combustion, no one would take you seriously.
It's hard to trust them when they already removed evolution from the curriculum. Of course, they changed their mind when the University of Kansas told them they wouldn't be able to accept any students from public schools in Kansas anymore.
Do you honestly think Apple sells itself copies of Tiger and iLife at retail to install them on its machines?
They weren't named "french fries" by the Belgians, either, any more than the Chinese named something "noodles" in Marco Polo's time.
Umm, I'd imagine that the sysadmin of the place running a contest to see if anyone can hack his server is probably aware of the contest, and not dumb enough to help you hack it. It's not like they're asking you to hack some random server whose admins are completely unaware of it.