My 'swipe' was at Microsoft Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Word taking in a clean 'hand editable' HTML document that can be easily edited (i.e. to clip out the text content from a web page cleanly) and outputting an XML monstrosity that buries the text content in layers of dreck.
You can take a simple HTML page that someone edited using vi or what-not, read it with IE, and 'save' it to a hell of a mess.
As far as the comment about 'code for the visually-impaired'... ummm, if I produce a 'page' of HTML that is readable with lynx, I've not done (b) ignored them. Thanks for the accusation of political incorrectness, however.
I don't rightly know what we are talking about.
I know it has nothing to do with 'hearing the sound of my own voice.' Wherever the hell that came from...
Increasingly, there are a whole lot of new 'folks' along for the ride in OSS, as it becomes more and more accessable to regular folks.
There are quite a number of people hawking their 'customized' versions of OpenOffice (search for Luxuriousity Office') and The Gimp these days on eBay. If you're looking into the price that MS Office is selling for with common search terms, you're SPAMMED with those bid items.
I recently installed Open Office 1.1 and noticed a little graphical 'help' window with a picture of a little 'character fellow' popped up in the lower right corner of my document when I turned on 'help.'
Yep. There's a little imitation of 'Clippy' in the new Open Office.
I have decided to sell my copy of Office 2000 (it's a retail-box upgrade copy, so I CAN sell it) on Ebay since I don't 'fully use' it's 'power' anymore. So I decided I'd better stick a replacement on my Windows machine. I have a copy of Office 97 that someone I bought a SCSI drive from on eBay had thrown in for free- apparently he assumed I was buying the SCSI drive as an 'excuse' for an OEM copy of Office... anyway...
The Word included in Office 97 produces pretty damn clean HTML. I've used it to convert most of the.doc files on my hard drive into.html files. It doesn't do the XML bullshit that the Office 2000 Word spews out.
I am not sure if most people do or don't know this, but I find it pretty cool. I think Microsoft wasn't buying into and/or hadn't yet extend-embracing XML back at that point in history. And from my point of view, it's the perfect reason to downgrade my Office version.
That, and Office 2000 still has a little value I can wring out of it when I sell it to some poor fool on eBay...
Yeah, but the people ragging are the folks who used to extort^W^W earn money producing said Cgi scripts. No self-respecting geek wants to be replaced by a turnkey application that regular folks can use...
Microsoft has a long history of 'defensive' patents. They patent things and then don't 'enforce' the patents against other entities. They've done this a lot, so your suppostion just makes you look like a zealot without a basis for your comment.
Do you run your own particular psuedo-random number generator and store the results? Do you go out with a digital camcorder and record tons and tons of images of the world? Do you write that much prose or poetry in a year?
Or are you just talking about 500 CDs of data that you or somebody else 'ripped' from exisiting media and are shuffling around?
It's drifting off topic to say, but I haven't forgotten that Dmitry works for Elcomsoft, a company that produces tools that spammers use to harvest email addresses from webspace and online forums.
Yes. Backups. Those are what people run on computers to back up older, less important data, correct? Between backup cycles, of course, the really important data is being generated, and is vulnerable.
Part of the reason there's only One Linux version to download is that those are huge monolithic products with big self-contained libraries and functionality. They soak up a huge memory footprint because of those features of their design.
Plus, the reason there is only the need for one OpenOffice and one Mozilla build for 'all of Linux' is that OpenOffice and Mozilla just won't run at all in any reasonable sense (without swap thrashing and glacial UI response) on the typical hardware/software that was in common use for Linux in the recent past. So there's no need for a build to run on those older Linux versons and platforms.
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Does anybody know what they made the gypsies wear?
I'm not sure I would call it a 'logo.'
Maybe a 'tag' or what-not.
I'm assuming you meant 'Heinlein' and not mere generic sci-fi...
Best.
ESR.
Slam.
Ever.
Hey. It looks fine in Lynx, logged in on my VT-220 on serial port A on my SparcStation 10....
It's not necessarily incompetence to not care what something looks like on a fancy bitmapped display...
....and quit posturing like he speaks for 'The Hackers.'
Good god, that guy has ego.
My 'swipe' was at Microsoft Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Word taking in a clean 'hand editable' HTML document that can be easily edited (i.e. to clip out the text content from a web page cleanly) and outputting an XML monstrosity that buries the text content in layers of dreck.
You can take a simple HTML page that someone edited using vi or what-not, read it with IE, and 'save' it to a hell of a mess.
As far as the comment about 'code for the visually-impaired'... ummm, if I produce a 'page' of HTML that is readable with lynx, I've not done (b) ignored them. Thanks for the accusation of political incorrectness, however.
I don't rightly know what we are talking about.
I know it has nothing to do with 'hearing the sound of my own voice.' Wherever the hell that came from...
Umm, I was commenting about the way the parent (granparent) entered the big mess of HTML markup for the one-line HTML page.
XML is 'worthless' for simple exposition and communications, because the written word is being presented, not a 'layout.'
And, gee. I never thought I'd get flamed on Slashdot for not liking Office 2000.
I must have fallen off the bandwagon or something.
I was going to say something harping and snide about how Assembly Language isn't real code, but you did it better. Sorta.
Increasingly, there are a whole lot of new 'folks' along for the ride in OSS, as it becomes more and more accessable to regular folks.
There are quite a number of people hawking their 'customized' versions of OpenOffice (search for Luxuriousity Office') and The Gimp these days on eBay. If you're looking into the price that MS Office is selling for with common search terms, you're SPAMMED with those bid items.
I recently installed Open Office 1.1 and noticed a little graphical 'help' window with a picture of a little 'character fellow' popped up in the lower right corner of my document when I turned on 'help.'
Yep. There's a little imitation of 'Clippy' in the new Open Office.
I discovered something cool the other day.
.doc files on my hard drive into .html files. It doesn't do the XML bullshit that the Office 2000 Word spews out.
I have decided to sell my copy of Office 2000 (it's a retail-box upgrade copy, so I CAN sell it) on Ebay since I don't 'fully use' it's 'power' anymore. So I decided I'd better stick a replacement on my Windows machine. I have a copy of Office 97 that someone I bought a SCSI drive from on eBay had thrown in for free- apparently he assumed I was buying the SCSI drive as an 'excuse' for an OEM copy of Office... anyway...
The Word included in Office 97 produces pretty damn clean HTML. I've used it to convert most of the
I am not sure if most people do or don't know this, but I find it pretty cool. I think Microsoft wasn't buying into and/or hadn't yet extend-embracing XML back at that point in history. And from my point of view, it's the perfect reason to downgrade my Office version.
That, and Office 2000 still has a little value I can wring out of it when I sell it to some poor fool on eBay...
Yeah, but the people ragging are the folks who used to extort^W^W earn money producing said Cgi scripts. No self-respecting geek wants to be replaced by a turnkey application that regular folks can use...
The sarcasm is so layered and the syntax is so awkward that I'm not sure what we're supposed to be upset with regarding this.
What does the Submitter mean. Can somebody translate it for me?
Microsoft has a long history of 'defensive' patents. They patent things and then don't 'enforce' the patents against other entities. They've done this a lot, so your suppostion just makes you look like a zealot without a basis for your comment.
Yea, but elle rulez.
What did you burn on those 500 CDs?
Do you run your own particular psuedo-random number generator and store the results? Do you go out with a digital camcorder and record tons and tons of images of the world? Do you write that much prose or poetry in a year?
Or are you just talking about 500 CDs of data that you or somebody else 'ripped' from exisiting media and are shuffling around?
I've always viewed Lottery Tickets as being Tax Recipts where they taxing body offers a 'chance' at a tax refund.
Do you mean Patrick Volkerding?
Not just Mac OS X.
Blizzard is still supporting old MacOS.
I play Diablo 2 on OS 9.2 on an ancient beige G3 box. Because it's fun.
It's drifting off topic to say, but I haven't forgotten that Dmitry works for Elcomsoft, a company that produces tools that spammers use to harvest email addresses from webspace and online forums.
When was alcohol or tobbacco patented?
You use 'they' too much in your arguement, without ever using a proper pronoun so we'd know who the 'they' you refer to is...
Yes. Backups. Those are what people run on computers to back up older, less important data, correct? Between backup cycles, of course, the really important data is being generated, and is vulnerable.
I touched the Liberty Bell, in Philadelphia, in 1975.
There are a lot of things one could get away with back then in Federal government facilities that would be impossible today.
Part of the reason there's only One Linux version to download is that those are huge monolithic products with big self-contained libraries and functionality. They soak up a huge memory footprint because of those features of their design.
Plus, the reason there is only the need for one OpenOffice and one Mozilla build for 'all of Linux' is that OpenOffice and Mozilla just won't run at all in any reasonable sense (without swap thrashing and glacial UI response) on the typical hardware/software that was in common use for Linux in the recent past. So there's no need for a build to run on those older Linux versons and platforms.