I also wouldn't be too surprised to hear that genetics is a significant factor; having been raised in a family of technologists (had my own computer from the time I was 8, and had been using them extensively since 5 or 6), I probably logged no less than 40-50% of the screen time of modern kids. I'm 30, and my vision hasn't substantially deteriorated (roughly 20/20, 20/30, and has been since my adolescence), even though my mother had become completely dependent on corrective lenses by this age (actually in her mid-20s, I think).
Also makes me wonder if display technologies themselves are relevant to this; I grew up with CRTs, and didn't do a majority of my computing on flat screens of any sort until I was effectively an adult.
Expository history of my monitor usage:
My main monitor was a 20" cylindrically curved screen from ~2000 until 2005 (prior to that it was usually crusty old 14" bubble screens discarded from my dad's office, but in those days, I rarely need more than 640x480), when I obtained a few decent flat CRTs. Didn't start using LCDs aside from laptops (which probably represent ~30% of my screen time) until 2011. Recently obtained an old Sun (Sony, really) monitor similar to the 20" previously mentioned as I really miss being able to run stuff at 240 Hz (640x480, though it could do over 120 at 1024x768, and even ~68 @1920x1440) without sinking a bunch of money on a modern gaming LCD.
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Probably for the same reason that nuclear power stations aren't staffed with scientists. They want people to read gauges, push buttons, pull levers, etc. rather than attempting to solve every (seemingly) trivial issue that comes their way. Also (probably) costs less.
80186 was definitely well into microcontroller territory; haven't seen too many, but I do have an old security system control card, and previously had a hard drive duplicator/diagnostic station that ran on one. I *think* a storage oscilloscope I picked up ages ago might have had one as well, but I can't quite remember.
There are some DosBox forks/patches out there that enable things like parallel port passthrough... that'd be a nice one to have official support for. Seems they have a fair number of interesting builds at:
http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/SVN...
Among other things, it can run Windows 3.1 (or 3.11, the workgroups forms, or whatever).. I'm sure that was fun to get working in the first place... but it appears to have been capable of this for ~10 years (Dosbox.70); also can run Windows 95 since version.74 (latest, 7 ya), and can at least run the Windows 98 setup program. I mention them as Windows tends to be broken in all sorts of weird and subtle ways, which is why i use them as something of a benchmark (not entirely unlike WINE being able to run Office). So if you haven't used it in the last 10 years, definitely give it another peek. 7 years, however, nothing much has changed aside from people's collective knowledge regarding working around issues.
Rather than just taking a shit on another seemingly useful feature, why not make it opt-in instead? The weenies that will complain about its mere existence can be ignored with extreme prejudice.
I wonder how much of this is related to Intel's ~7 competition-free years in the desktop processor market. I, for one, have not yet felt compelled to upgrade beyond Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Still not quite there yet, as I just don't need more than 6 cores at 4GHz+; the power consumption improvements are looking pretty enticing though.
Does anyone out there keep statistics specific to 'enthusiast' platform (LGA2011, TR4) sales? I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that those have spiked a bit.
Last time I encountered a large deployment of NT in the wild (probably close to ten years ago now), it was a bunch of self-service game card machines at an entertainment venue. One of them had crashed to desktop, so I navigated to osk.exe and dropped a (polite, of course) net send * message advising them of their oops. Good times.
Something something irrefutable proof! No not enough data! But but questionably funded study! I want to believe! I will stand firm in the face of all facts!
I lied, it's more like this:
A: My position is clearly the correct one, and all who do not hold it are imbeciles.
B: My position is clearly the correct one, and all who do not hold it are imbeciles.
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Reading the article I linked in the other comment now, it does seem to point strongly towards genetics. We'll get there eventually, I'm sure.
I also wouldn't be too surprised to hear that genetics is a significant factor; having been raised in a family of technologists (had my own computer from the time I was 8, and had been using them extensively since 5 or 6), I probably logged no less than 40-50% of the screen time of modern kids. I'm 30, and my vision hasn't substantially deteriorated (roughly 20/20, 20/30, and has been since my adolescence), even though my mother had become completely dependent on corrective lenses by this age (actually in her mid-20s, I think).
Also makes me wonder if display technologies themselves are relevant to this; I grew up with CRTs, and didn't do a majority of my computing on flat screens of any sort until I was effectively an adult.
Expository history of my monitor usage:
My main monitor was a 20" cylindrically curved screen from ~2000 until 2005 (prior to that it was usually crusty old 14" bubble screens discarded from my dad's office, but in those days, I rarely need more than 640x480), when I obtained a few decent flat CRTs. Didn't start using LCDs aside from laptops (which probably represent ~30% of my screen time) until 2011. Recently obtained an old Sun (Sony, really) monitor similar to the 20" previously mentioned as I really miss being able to run stuff at 240 Hz (640x480, though it could do over 120 at 1024x768, and even ~68 @1920x1440) without sinking a bunch of money on a modern gaming LCD.
Agree with AC to a degree, but I also feel that AC could have done a google instead of being an unhelpful twit: https://www.nature.com/news/th...
Do I take the red tablet or the blue tablet to get the hell out of here?
I am a squeezable tube of mayonnaise; if you stomp on me, i become an egg-spurt.
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tag.
Probably for the same reason that nuclear power stations aren't staffed with scientists. They want people to read gauges, push buttons, pull levers, etc. rather than attempting to solve every (seemingly) trivial issue that comes their way. Also (probably) costs less.
I'm curious to know where this (mis)information originates.
80186 was definitely well into microcontroller territory; haven't seen too many, but I do have an old security system control card, and previously had a hard drive duplicator/diagnostic station that ran on one. I *think* a storage oscilloscope I picked up ages ago might have had one as well, but I can't quite remember.
Mission accomplished. Good work, team.
There are some DosBox forks/patches out there that enable things like parallel port passthrough... that'd be a nice one to have official support for. Seems they have a fair number of interesting builds at: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/SVN...
Among other things, it can run Windows 3.1 (or 3.11, the workgroups forms, or whatever).. I'm sure that was fun to get working in the first place... but it appears to have been capable of this for ~10 years (Dosbox .70); also can run Windows 95 since version .74 (latest, 7 ya), and can at least run the Windows 98 setup program. I mention them as Windows tends to be broken in all sorts of weird and subtle ways, which is why i use them as something of a benchmark (not entirely unlike WINE being able to run Office). So if you haven't used it in the last 10 years, definitely give it another peek. 7 years, however, nothing much has changed aside from people's collective knowledge regarding working around issues.
I want to believe I didn't first read that as 'SJW paywall', and I'll see myself out.
I don't think they're going to be moved by your exposition of facts, unfortunately. These types never are.
I'm sure others will note... Google almost certainly just wanted the data. Why would they need/want anything else out of the arrangement?
But I was using those as ballast for my crash cart!
Rather than just taking a shit on another seemingly useful feature, why not make it opt-in instead? The weenies that will complain about its mere existence can be ignored with extreme prejudice.
I wonder how much of this is related to Intel's ~7 competition-free years in the desktop processor market. I, for one, have not yet felt compelled to upgrade beyond Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Still not quite there yet, as I just don't need more than 6 cores at 4GHz+; the power consumption improvements are looking pretty enticing though.
Does anyone out there keep statistics specific to 'enthusiast' platform (LGA2011, TR4) sales? I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that those have spiked a bit.
Last time I encountered a large deployment of NT in the wild (probably close to ten years ago now), it was a bunch of self-service game card machines at an entertainment venue. One of them had crashed to desktop, so I navigated to osk.exe and dropped a (polite, of course) net send * message advising them of their oops. Good times.
I'm actually kind of disappointed that more copy-pasta/otherwise spammy anti-OSS ("open sores") anecdotal type posts haven't been made here yet.
to snoop you with, my dear...
Something something irrefutable proof! No not enough data! But but questionably funded study! I want to believe! I will stand firm in the face of all facts!
I lied, it's more like this:
A: My position is clearly the correct one, and all who do not hold it are imbeciles.
B: My position is clearly the correct one, and all who do not hold it are imbeciles.
At least they can agree on something.
You're leaking smartquotes, bro.
Now we only need it to emit a satisfied sigh whenever it has completed its task.
... you still have made a choice!
(And the right one, IMO, but then again, i'm a complete Luddite when it comes to these things)