I think it is a step in the wrong direction to talk so strongly about disallowing the monitoring of anyone. This takes away the rights of people who would have reason and want to monitor them.
Instead, control who gets to see the information. Let it be released to all of the public in raw forms, as we are the employers of these judges. This increases their accountability, which is always good.
We should be asking not to stop the monitoring, but to have easy access to the raw data from the monitoring.
By requesting the cessation of monitoring, you are hurting us all.
Good point.
We need to get binaries off of Usenet and onto some other service that is similar in its distributed archetecture, and yet more optomised for handing large binaries.
Hush, anonymous coward, because a business of any type who saves money is able to pass the savings along to consumers. I don't mean that they will, but often they do. If they didn't have the lower cost of business they absolutely wouldn't pass savings along because there wouldn't be any. All increases in efficiency are good, and this is just one of them.
That has not been my experiance when dealing with bookstores. Where I live there is a local price war going on with books being sold for less than their cover prices. Sometimes much less.
I thoguht the face recognition was a good idea. If nothing else it could have meant lower cost of operation for them and perhaps lower costs to us consumers.
I hate how overreactionary Slashdot is on things like this. It's simply not a problem at all.
I'm not sure I like the project anyway....
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From everything I've heard about the project and the satelite, I simply don't really think it was anything I would consider worthwhile anyway. Even after reading that pro-go article I still come away with a sense that this would be a kind of worthless mission.
Yes, I believe NASA needs more money and more shuttleflights, but at the same time I wish the money would not be spent on this.
But what do I know? Just because noone's proven the worth of the project to me doesn't mean it's not there, right?
It's their computer equipment, their buildings, their officespaces... let them do with their property what they want. Let them monitor all they want.
I don't want anyone telling me what I can do with my computer, so if I want to monitor my computer I will. Same with the employers: if they want to
monitor their computers they should be able to.
I consider it a huge inconsistancy in nerd viewpoints that they want freedom for themselves (let me put whatever OS I want on my computer!) but not for some other groups (don't you DARE monitor what goes on on your computer while your employee is using it!).
If you don't want to be monitored, don't work there. It's that simple.
And then there's the solution that the employees can always insist that the executives of the company are monitored too and everyones' records are made available to both employees and stockholders. After all, I'm sure the stockholders will go for any proposal that would increase productivity from the executives too.
The key is to leave the decision to monitor or not to the company itself, and not the government.
Naw, we should be using a Jabber-like program with a couple of differences. For instance, do away with the XML, it is an unnecessary complication.
I really dislike the Jabber project for many reasons, a couple of which are simply the unexplainable "bad vibe" kind of things. I think much of it is needlessly complicated, using an ineligant solution to a really rather simple problem. The fact that it too so long to become stable is testament to this, I believe. It should have taken about a month from beginning to end with a team of four.
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I simply do not like Jabber. Not one bit.
It hasn't even really hit primetime and it's already, in my oppinion, ruining itself.
I think it is based on a bad idea: basing everything on XML. Yes it is a tradeoff between interoperability and complexity, but I think they chose the wrong one. And yes, I have read all of their explanations, it just doesn't convince me.
This gives me a veyr bad feeling about Jabber, but it's not the only thing. I've been following the Jabber developent since they first went public with their plans to create it years ago. Soon after they started working on it I got a bad vibe from it, and that has only gotten worse.
For one thing, simply looking at the amount of time it took them to release something bodes very badly. What they were seeking to do was NOT that hard and could have reasonably been released in a month of good coding. It was what, over a year and probably closer to two before they released something usable.
They put too much intelligence into the server. They had a basically flawed model, and though it was implemented well it's just a waste of developer time.
It makes me sick to hear about Jabber, and to hear of it as being a great messaging anything. It's a bad project that I wish would have collapsed.
Starwars is a completely different deal based on completely different methods.
People seem to miss this.
They also miss that Bush is not proposing to build this defense system, he is only testing its technology. Deployment of a defense system would be a completely different consideration.
IF the technology proves feasable, deployment will then be up for consideration, but not a guarantee.
Yes, zero tolerance in issuing tickets, but the ability to appeal them. If you get pulled over by a real cop for speeding, no matter when, he can give you a ticket. You can claim you did it to get out or whatever, but you can always get out.
Basically, you did speed and you should get a ticket. But you should have a quick way to appeal the ticket, whether an electronic thing is in place or not. But that is a seperate issue.
Electronic and automatic issuance of tickets is the way to go.
His point was that the article would be about Mozilla or something and it would provide news about the project. At the end the poster would mention something that is completely not news just for no real reason.
It's not a matter of what's good, it's simply kind of an odd thing that has been happening.
That makes NO sense.
Why would they detain you just because they have a mugshot of you? Now THAT would be wrong.
As far as the wife part, you simply sue for more, ya see? Make your wrongful arrest suit be related to the amount of harm caused by their arrest. Not only that, but if something like this happens you can then go to the press and the PR damage would be very real.
As far as the finding evidence, that is the problem in itself and bares no reason to be down on the cameras. I mean "finding" evidence is a problem whether or not arrests happen because of cameras being around.
If you are mistaken for someone else and detained, you go and sue for wrongful arrest. It's not like you're filing a frivilous lawsuit, you're charging them for your time.
If you have to spend a night in a holding cell, you sue them for a couple of thousand. Not bad for a night's work, eh?
I'm in favor of all these cameras. Go look back to the slashdot story from long ago titled "Good riddance privacy" or somehting like that.
My favorite review, and one I agree with completely, called Perl Harbor a great war film stuck inside a three hour soap opera.
Another good one said that "We now have a wonderful story of love placed on a backdrop of a chilling war. It's called The Thin Red Line. Perl Harbor sucked." Or something like that. It might have been a movie other than Thin Red LIne, I've never seen it to be sure.
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I think it is a step in the wrong direction to talk so strongly about disallowing the monitoring of anyone. This takes away the rights of people who would have reason and want to monitor them.
Instead, control who gets to see the information. Let it be released to all of the public in raw forms, as we are the employers of these judges. This increases their accountability, which is always good.
We should be asking not to stop the monitoring, but to have easy access to the raw data from the monitoring.
By requesting the cessation of monitoring, you are hurting us all.
Good point.
We need to get binaries off of Usenet and onto some other service that is similar in its distributed archetecture, and yet more optomised for handing large binaries.
Ooooh, you invoked the evil word "corporation".
Hush, anonymous coward, because a business of any type who saves money is able to pass the savings along to consumers. I don't mean that they will, but often they do. If they didn't have the lower cost of business they absolutely wouldn't pass savings along because there wouldn't be any. All increases in efficiency are good, and this is just one of them.
That has not been my experiance when dealing with bookstores. Where I live there is a local price war going on with books being sold for less than their cover prices. Sometimes much less.
I thoguht the face recognition was a good idea. If nothing else it could have meant lower cost of operation for them and perhaps lower costs to us consumers.
I hate how overreactionary Slashdot is on things like this. It's simply not a problem at all.
So?
From everything I've heard about the project and the satelite, I simply don't really think it was anything I would consider worthwhile anyway. Even after reading that pro-go article I still come away with a sense that this would be a kind of worthless mission.
Yes, I believe NASA needs more money and more shuttleflights, but at the same time I wish the money would not be spent on this.
But what do I know? Just because noone's proven the worth of the project to me doesn't mean it's not there, right?
It's their computer equipment, their buildings, their officespaces... let them do with their property what they want. Let them monitor all they want.
I don't want anyone telling me what I can do with my computer, so if I want to monitor my computer I will. Same with the employers: if they want to
monitor their computers they should be able to.
I consider it a huge inconsistancy in nerd viewpoints that they want freedom for themselves (let me put whatever OS I want on my computer!) but not for some other groups (don't you DARE monitor what goes on on your computer while your employee is using it!).
If you don't want to be monitored, don't work there. It's that simple.
And then there's the solution that the employees can always insist that the executives of the company are monitored too and everyones' records are made available to both employees and stockholders. After all, I'm sure the stockholders will go for any proposal that would increase productivity from the executives too.
The key is to leave the decision to monitor or not to the company itself, and not the government.
Naw, we should be using a Jabber-like program with a couple of differences. For instance, do away with the XML, it is an unnecessary complication.
I really dislike the Jabber project for many reasons, a couple of which are simply the unexplainable "bad vibe" kind of things. I think much of it is needlessly complicated, using an ineligant solution to a really rather simple problem. The fact that it too so long to become stable is testament to this, I believe. It should have taken about a month from beginning to end with a team of four.
Or even better, FreeNet, and where's the key?
I recently heard in an advertisement that with the new version of AOL you can even use email to send pictures to your friends!
I simply do not like Jabber. Not one bit.
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It hasn't even really hit primetime and it's already, in my oppinion, ruining itself.
I think it is based on a bad idea: basing everything on XML. Yes it is a tradeoff between interoperability and complexity, but I think they chose the wrong one. And yes, I have read all of their explanations, it just doesn't convince me.
This gives me a veyr bad feeling about Jabber, but it's not the only thing. I've been following the Jabber developent since they first went public with their plans to create it years ago. Soon after they started working on it I got a bad vibe from it, and that has only gotten worse.
For one thing, simply looking at the amount of time it took them to release something bodes very badly. What they were seeking to do was NOT that hard and could have reasonably been released in a month of good coding. It was what, over a year and probably closer to two before they released something usable.
They put too much intelligence into the server. They had a basically flawed model, and though it was implemented well it's just a waste of developer time.
It makes me sick to hear about Jabber, and to hear of it as being a great messaging anything. It's a bad project that I wish would have collapsed.
That's my rant on that
Yeah, yeah, I know, they can do whatever they want with their software, imposing whatever liscence restrictions on it they want......
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But I'm resisting the urge to download every bit of MS souce I can find and upload it to FreeNet anyway
If HP didn't put up half the funding, it might not ever get developed and they wouldn't get to sell it.
Simple.
I would imagine that in the future tests will be run as you suggest.
This specific test was staged to measure certain aspects of the technology, not the entire system.
You gotta start small, right?
Thanks for the worth reading post on something other than the nukes :)
Starwars is a completely different deal based on completely different methods.
People seem to miss this.
They also miss that Bush is not proposing to build this defense system, he is only testing its technology. Deployment of a defense system would be a completely different consideration.
IF the technology proves feasable, deployment will then be up for consideration, but not a guarantee.
Not if the recording is being broadcasted to a storage device at home....
Yes, zero tolerance in issuing tickets, but the ability to appeal them. If you get pulled over by a real cop for speeding, no matter when, he can give you a ticket. You can claim you did it to get out or whatever, but you can always get out.
Basically, you did speed and you should get a ticket. But you should have a quick way to appeal the ticket, whether an electronic thing is in place or not. But that is a seperate issue.
Electronic and automatic issuance of tickets is the way to go.
FreeNet this. I mean, that's pretty much exactly what FreeNet is for, right? Ther'd be no way to have it taken down.
His point was that the article would be about Mozilla or something and it would provide news about the project. At the end the poster would mention something that is completely not news just for no real reason.
It's not a matter of what's good, it's simply kind of an odd thing that has been happening.
That makes NO sense.
Why would they detain you just because they have a mugshot of you? Now THAT would be wrong.
As far as the wife part, you simply sue for more, ya see? Make your wrongful arrest suit be related to the amount of harm caused by their arrest. Not only that, but if something like this happens you can then go to the press and the PR damage would be very real.
As far as the finding evidence, that is the problem in itself and bares no reason to be down on the cameras. I mean "finding" evidence is a problem whether or not arrests happen because of cameras being around.
If you are mistaken for someone else and detained, you go and sue for wrongful arrest. It's not like you're filing a frivilous lawsuit, you're charging them for your time.
If you have to spend a night in a holding cell, you sue them for a couple of thousand. Not bad for a night's work, eh?
I'm in favor of all these cameras. Go look back to the slashdot story from long ago titled "Good riddance privacy" or somehting like that.
Call me tasteless, but I just don't fine Holy Grail all that funny... Worth watching once, sure, but... it's just not that good a movie.
My favorite review, and one I agree with completely, called Perl Harbor a great war film stuck inside a three hour soap opera. Another good one said that "We now have a wonderful story of love placed on a backdrop of a chilling war. It's called The Thin Red Line. Perl Harbor sucked." Or something like that. It might have been a movie other than Thin Red LIne, I've never seen it to be sure.