So is the GPL - you can't even create derivative works of it as you can for software licensed under it. The Free Software Foundation strongly reserves all its rights to the GPL itself under copyright law, much contrary to the GPL's own philosophy.
the first line of defense is training the employees properly. i used to work at Fry's and it was my turn to work the software returns one day. some guy tried to return Photoshop. i knew already that the package was opened and re-shrink wrapped. the plastic felt and looked weird.. it wasn't the same plastic from the factory. so i went ahead and opened it to check the contents. seemed like everything was there. but when i inspected the cd, it was scratched up to hell. there were circular patterns all over the read-side of the cd. my guess was that he used one of those Disc Doctor scratch removers, but used some sort of solvent or maybe some really scaley tap water.
Maybe it was scratched from the factory and he tried to fix the problem himself to avoid the hassle of having to go back to return a defective product.
I've never understood why, if we "license" software, why such a cheaply-made and easily-damaged object as a CD must be kept in perfect condition to maintain the ability to use the software - if it's a license, rather than a purchase, the companies should make good on it and replace a damaged CD for any software you still have a valid license for.
There are non-english QWERTY layouts with 105 keys. And it's not logical-layout independent. For example, the german 105 key keyboard has 11 keys in the lowest row (above the spacebar), this optimus board has 12 keys there. The german keyboard has 3 keys to the right of the 'l' key, the optimus keyboard has 4 there. The german keyboard has the enter key on the 2nd and 3rd row, not on the 4th and 5th. Etc.
no, YOUR german keyboard does. as do about half of MY us keyboards - the others have it on the 3rd alone.
their enter key is just bizarre no matter where you are - that doesn't make it "US-centric", that just makes it dumb. but look closer, it's on the 3rd and 4th, not the 4th and fifth. and it's a minor difference _anyway_. whenever you buy a new keyboard you have to get used to the different feel, the different pressure on the keys, slight differences in spacing and depth, anyway.
no, instead we have laws that make it illegal to send a letter without paying the USPS, whether you use their service or not.
I think there's an exception that allows other companies to deliver letters as long as they charge at least ten times as much as the USPS does, or something like that.
The USPS is unfair competition, and trying to say it's not only weakens the rest of your argument
sunray does not compete with these machines. On a broader scale it does. People have to ask themselves, is the benefit of zero-administration and the moving around thing worth the cost of making everyone move to solaris? and it rarely is
One of the most popular shows in Japan is Ah My Goddess, and the main character who the Goddess is in love with is a Dork.
That would be the _other_ cliche:P i mean, no offense [I like AMG] but... Love Hina, Tenchi, even to some degree Vandread... K1 is not unique as a "Dork" character?
the fact that they claim that 1082 volumes end-to-end "approaches" the 52-mile mark is your first clue - that is only possible if each individual book "approaches" 250 feet.
Whoa, hold on, you were talking about a lower-than-normal-user privilege level for IE7. Now you're just talking about not running it as Administrator or Power User? Normal user privilege is already WAY too open for IE.
The original poster (not me) said "limited user" - which is the existing windows XP home term for a non-administrator user, so i assumed that was what he meant. I don't know if it's currently possible to run IE as a limited user but it wouldn't surprise me if it does dumb stuff like trying to write to its program directory - many windows programs do that and thus must be run as administrator.
NT doesn't have a concept of chroot, it doesn't do traverse checking, and there's no analog of the "execute" bit so it'd still be able to hide executable code in its writable space.
There is a user right (assigned to administrators and... i believe also backup operators by default) called "bypass traverse checking" so i assume it _does_ normally do traverse checking
I wouldn't say "important". I'd say "possibly useful", even for internet security. The complexity of the Windows API and its complex privilege model makes it hard for me to trust that there's no way to trick it into privilege escalation.
tricking it into privilege escalation is a step that no-one has ever had to do in a compromise before. no longer forcing people to run as root cannot be anything but a good thing.
as for the no-execute stuff - it eliminates traditional buffer overflows, because the stack won't (at least, not if they claim any degree of support for it at all) be executable.
Lower user privileges (IE 7 will run in these on Longhorn)
Fixing the wrong problem. The only reason to run IE in some kind of sandbox is because of its broken active content model. Instead they should fix IE by backing that out and split off a local HTML scripting environment (like Dashboard, but without the stupid UI), and making IE into a normal browser... a purely web aplication that has no ability to download applets and automatically* run them with full local rights.
making limited user accounts feasible for everyday use is important for more reasons than just internet security.
you left out the "no-execute" support from your reply - if this is supported properly, it would absolutely eliminate traditional buffer overflow exploits
I read the original post as saying that a monitoring system was needed to gather evidence - i.e. people were emailing each other about their conspiracy to do whatever it was that was harming the university
not a simple volume-of-personal-email thing, which coincidentally enough is also what is being set up as a strawman for TFA itself.
Fire the people who are causing the most harm to the company. Who would you fire in this case, the adulteress or the pirate?
um... does not compute? is this some sort of math problem based on which one is wasting more time, or am i expected to make some sort of moral judgement? If the latter - neither of the behaviors listed are causing more harm to the company than the other - both are equally things that the company might theoretically become liable for, and neither is causing any real material harm to the company
I looked it up and the phrase is wrong in my second paragraph - but still - willful ignorance gets you less penalty than trying to make sure your program doesn't infringe on any patents
seriously - independent discovery should be fair game. always.
Proposal: Lowering the penalties for willful infringement.
Result: Encourages willful copying without paying inventor.
No, no, no. "willful infringement" doesn't mean you actually meant to - it just means that you saw the patent, thought (or even were told by your lawyers) that your work didn't infringe, and turned out to be wrong.
It's what is in all other fields called "due diligence" and results in _less_ penalty if anything.
I wasn't implying that it was a problem with windows - just that windows (or linux on x86, etc) was provided with no tools with which to do anything but watch helplessly as you corrupt your data.
Making sure the kernel structures themselves (which aren't going anywhere) remain consistent is sufficient to avoid a kernel panic - and to avoid most any problems (except the more-or-less unsolvable one of lost work) with the NFS issue mentioned above (assuming the host at the other end is taking care of its side)
the problem with floppy disks and usb keys is that they allow you to "yank" them. i.e. there is a physical button on the floppy drive that will force the disk out of the drive, and the USB connector can just be pulled out. Some mechanism like a cd-rom tray (which won't eject until the OS is done with the disk) would be nice - something to let the OS lock the disk into place while it's in the middle of writing to it.
The mac had this solved for floppies way back when they used floppies. Dragging it to the trash may have seemed unintuitive, but it had the advantage of being controlled by the OS - all windows could do was keep the little LED lit as it haplessly watched you eject the now-corrupted disk.
This is not on-topic - the issue in this thread is not whether music should be pirated at all, but whether it should be 50 or 100 years or forever before it enters the public domain (after which, for example, other artists can make new works based on it without having to deal with mountains of paperwork)
However, regardless, there is one problem with your proposal
how are you going to identify the pirates? Are you going to require an id card from everyone who buys a cd? what about those not old enough to have a drivers license (16 most places in the US), or even not old enough to have any state-issued id card (14 in my state)
what about people who borrow cds from their friends and rip them?
what about (obviously this is even more illegal than copyright violation, but if you're proposing this as a complete solution to stop the songs from hitting the internet) people who shoplift the CDs and rip them?
what about (the $64M question, that everyone, you included seem to ignore) the real sources - the people within the industry who leak stuff before it's even released?
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Perfectly obvious? it's perfectly obvious why i can't make the "Random832 Public License" using it as a starting point?
So is the GPL - you can't even create derivative works of it as you can for software licensed under it. The Free Software Foundation strongly reserves all its rights to the GPL itself under copyright law, much contrary to the GPL's own philosophy.
In this particular case, where does BB lose? they now are proud owners of your friend's shrink-wrapped games, and can re-sell them for full price
the first line of defense is training the employees properly. i used to work at Fry's and it was my turn to work the software returns one day. some guy tried to return Photoshop. i knew already that the package was opened and re-shrink wrapped. the plastic felt and looked weird.. it wasn't the same plastic from the factory. so i went ahead and opened it to check the contents. seemed like everything was there. but when i inspected the cd, it was scratched up to hell. there were circular patterns all over the read-side of the cd. my guess was that he used one of those Disc Doctor scratch removers, but used some sort of solvent or maybe some really scaley tap water.
Maybe it was scratched from the factory and he tried to fix the problem himself to avoid the hassle of having to go back to return a defective product.
I've never understood why, if we "license" software, why such a cheaply-made and easily-damaged object as a CD must be kept in perfect condition to maintain the ability to use the software - if it's a license, rather than a purchase, the companies should make good on it and replace a damaged CD for any software you still have a valid license for.
but still - 60 amps? what are house circuits rated for? here in the US it's 15 at 120V, i think
it wasn't a joke, it was an invocation of godwin's law
now everyone stop talking.
> > Wrong. It's more like going up a private road
> > which isn't marked as a
> > private road
> Which is illegal.
Is not.
> What's your point? You can't
> possibly have any legitimate reason to go up the
> private road as it only leads to other stuff
> which isn't yours.
Unless it's a through road. Then it leads to public roads on *gasp* the opposite side of your land
> > Don't want people to go driving up your
> > private road? Put some signs up or
> > a gate.
> I have 200 acres of land. How can I put up signs
> or a gate on 200 acres of land?
it's a ROAD. he's not asking you to put a gate in the middle of your fucking cornfield.
> You shouldn't be
> trespassing - you have no legitimate reason to
> go on to my land.
Then mark your land. Try pissing all over it, it works for dogs.
There are non-english QWERTY layouts with 105 keys. And it's not logical-layout independent. For example, the german 105 key keyboard has 11 keys in the lowest row (above the spacebar), this optimus board has 12 keys there. The german keyboard has 3 keys to the right of the 'l' key, the optimus keyboard has 4 there. The german keyboard has the enter key on the 2nd and 3rd row, not on the 4th and 5th. Etc.
no, YOUR german keyboard does. as do about half of MY us keyboards - the others have it on the 3rd alone.
their enter key is just bizarre no matter where you are - that doesn't make it "US-centric", that just makes it dumb. but look closer, it's on the 3rd and 4th, not the 4th and fifth. and it's a minor difference _anyway_. whenever you buy a new keyboard you have to get used to the different feel, the different pressure on the keys, slight differences in spacing and depth, anyway.
Saying that it's justified, or that unfair competition is OK in this instance, is fine, but the post I was replying to was trying to _deny_ it.
no, instead we have laws that make it illegal to send a letter without paying the USPS, whether you use their service or not.
I think there's an exception that allows other companies to deliver letters as long as they charge at least ten times as much as the USPS does, or something like that.
The USPS is unfair competition, and trying to say it's not only weakens the rest of your argument
sunray does not compete with these machines.
On a broader scale it does. People have to ask themselves, is the benefit of zero-administration and the moving around thing worth the cost of making everyone move to solaris? and it rarely is
He means it's a net gain if you include all the CO2 converted to O2 during the tree's lifetime.
One of the most popular shows in Japan is Ah My Goddess, and the main character who the Goddess is in love with is a Dork.
:P i mean, no offense [I like AMG] but... Love Hina, Tenchi, even to some degree Vandread... K1 is not unique as a "Dork" character?
That would be the _other_ cliche
the fact that they claim that 1082 volumes end-to-end "approaches" the 52-mile mark is your first clue - that is only possible if each individual book "approaches" 250 feet.
Whoa, hold on, you were talking about a lower-than-normal-user privilege level for IE7. Now you're just talking about not running it as Administrator or Power User? Normal user privilege is already WAY too open for IE.
The original poster (not me) said "limited user" - which is the existing windows XP home term for a non-administrator user, so i assumed that was what he meant. I don't know if it's currently possible to run IE as a limited user but it wouldn't surprise me if it does dumb stuff like trying to write to its program directory - many windows programs do that and thus must be run as administrator.
NT doesn't have a concept of chroot, it doesn't do traverse checking, and there's no analog of the "execute" bit so it'd still be able to hide executable code in its writable space.
There is a user right (assigned to administrators and... i believe also backup operators by default) called "bypass traverse checking" so i assume it _does_ normally do traverse checking
I wouldn't say "important". I'd say "possibly useful", even for internet security. The complexity of the Windows API and its complex privilege model makes it hard for me to trust that there's no way to trick it into privilege escalation.
tricking it into privilege escalation is a step that no-one has ever had to do in a compromise before. no longer forcing people to run as root cannot be anything but a good thing.
as for the no-execute stuff - it eliminates traditional buffer overflows, because the stack won't (at least, not if they claim any degree of support for it at all) be executable.
Lower user privileges (IE 7 will run in these on Longhorn)
Fixing the wrong problem. The only reason to run IE in some kind of sandbox is because of its broken active content model. Instead they should fix IE by backing that out and split off a local HTML scripting environment (like Dashboard, but without the stupid UI), and making IE into a normal browser... a purely web aplication that has no ability to download applets and automatically* run them with full local rights.
making limited user accounts feasible for everyday use is important for more reasons than just internet security.
you left out the "no-execute" support from your reply - if this is supported properly, it would absolutely eliminate traditional buffer overflow exploits
I read the original post as saying that a monitoring system was needed to gather evidence - i.e. people were emailing each other about their conspiracy to do whatever it was that was harming the university
not a simple volume-of-personal-email thing, which coincidentally enough is also what is being set up as a strawman for TFA itself.
Fire the people who are causing the most harm to the company. Who would you fire in this case, the adulteress or the pirate?
um... does not compute? is this some sort of math problem based on which one is wasting more time, or am i expected to make some sort of moral judgement? If the latter - neither of the behaviors listed are causing more harm to the company than the other - both are equally things that the company might theoretically become liable for, and neither is causing any real material harm to the company
i give up, what's the answer?
I looked it up and the phrase is wrong in my second paragraph - but still - willful ignorance gets you less penalty than trying to make sure your program doesn't infringe on any patents
seriously - independent discovery should be fair game. always.
Proposal: Lowering the penalties for willful infringement.
Result: Encourages willful copying without paying inventor.
No, no, no. "willful infringement" doesn't mean you actually meant to - it just means that you saw the patent, thought (or even were told by your lawyers) that your work didn't infringe, and turned out to be wrong.
It's what is in all other fields called "due diligence" and results in _less_ penalty if anything.
They don't grant me anything that copyright law does not.
Yes, they do. They grant you the right to use the software.
Last I checked, 17USC117(a)(1) was still in effect.
I wasn't implying that it was a problem with windows - just that windows (or linux on x86, etc) was provided with no tools with which to do anything but watch helplessly as you corrupt your data.
Making sure the kernel structures themselves (which aren't going anywhere) remain consistent is sufficient to avoid a kernel panic - and to avoid most any problems (except the more-or-less unsolvable one of lost work) with the NFS issue mentioned above (assuming the host at the other end is taking care of its side)
the problem with floppy disks and usb keys is that they allow you to "yank" them. i.e. there is a physical button on the floppy drive that will force the disk out of the drive, and the USB connector can just be pulled out. Some mechanism like a cd-rom tray (which won't eject until the OS is done with the disk) would be nice - something to let the OS lock the disk into place while it's in the middle of writing to it.
The mac had this solved for floppies way back when they used floppies. Dragging it to the trash may have seemed unintuitive, but it had the advantage of being controlled by the OS - all windows could do was keep the little LED lit as it haplessly watched you eject the now-corrupted disk.
This is not on-topic - the issue in this thread is not whether music should be pirated at all, but whether it should be 50 or 100 years or forever before it enters the public domain (after which, for example, other artists can make new works based on it without having to deal with mountains of paperwork)
However, regardless, there is one problem with your proposal
how are you going to identify the pirates? Are you going to require an id card from everyone who buys a cd? what about those not old enough to have a drivers license (16 most places in the US), or even not old enough to have any state-issued id card (14 in my state)
what about people who borrow cds from their friends and rip them?
what about (obviously this is even more illegal than copyright violation, but if you're proposing this as a complete solution to stop the songs from hitting the internet) people who shoplift the CDs and rip them?
what about (the $64M question, that everyone, you included seem to ignore) the real sources - the people within the industry who leak stuff before it's even released?