Code != Copyright
They've assigned the copyrights (not code) over to the FSF. The code has always been available from: http://ecos.sourceware.org/getstart.html
I forgot to mention.. now with the OSDN legal fund this move by Novell might be a bit late.. Some businesses might now see that they have the option of possible OSDN protection or buy a distro with support and protection..
If you have had a hand in development of Unix, now own suse and know probably where most of the source code came from in unix (development history too).. wouldnt you make this move and hopefully cash in on some sales.
People might see that Novell have been part of unix development, add that to the current copyright dispute with SCO and that Novell do have some rights. This could swing it for those companies wanting to use linux but dont want the risk. They might go with suse now, get some legal protection and have the perception that novell knows SCO's claims are utter BS and have now covered you from any lawsuit SCO may or may not file.
I think the SCO exec are misleading investors. You can see it with their FUD releases which claim one thing after another. While we see these for their true value, investors might not have the same perspective. They see one company suing another huge company for a lot of cash and is claiming ownership over parts of a widely used kernel/os.
With the lawsuit and the recent injection of venture capital, plus the latest financial reports saying their licensing drive is making money *but* they spent it on lawyers, I think the investors are keeping the stock until after SCO has to show their cards. If you see a stock jump from $1 to $20 at the high and is now at $10 with more news to come, might you not atleast *consider* paying the $10 per share incase they do have a legitimate claim against Linux which then pushes their stock way above $20.
Unfortunately this, to us, looks like a pump and dump (as shown by sco execs) but the SEC probably wont investigate until after the lawsuit is settled/dismissed/whatever and the outcome of it wont be quick. By that time I assume Darl and friends will be long gone to Soviet Russia/Cuba.
Just a thought, oh and IANAI (I am not an investor)
Wait, their stock is going down and there is some bad press on them plus an addition to the IBM suit...I think its that time, I just cant wait for their next FUD release.
Strange how they still have to hide their little snip of code IF its exactly the same as the Linux one:X Right now that only proves the comment is almost the same.
I thought the Automatic Updating Service in XP Pro already did this. It has the options to download and install, download and let you decide, just tell you there is a patch or of course you can disable it totally... I fail to see how this "new" idea is any different. I thought the XP auto update was set to download and inform by default so perhaps they're just switching the default setting.
Just have a look for yourself. Control Panel > System > Automatic Updates
It works exactly like the email address generator.. It generates random file names which contain the various "copyrighted" titles. Some are mixed around like the package manager. Any clicked link will take you to a file which just has some information for any human that it is the honeypot etc etc. I won't post the url as it logs all the lovely IPs, user agents, dates, times and whether it accessed the files to check. Plus I dont think I could survive the slashdotting.
Actually I pay for my dedicated servers so I don't freeload off Geocities.. Plus I'm also one of those Yahoo Shareholders so I've also paid for that. I also used to be a premium user on Geocities back before Yahoo owned it. Plus I was one of those Community Leaders there... So actually I don't get anything for free from Geocities. Perhaps next time you shouldn't assume so many things.
Oh, I so did not expect that to be offline when I saw it was on geocities. I thought it was 1999 where Geocities is not owned by Yahoo and they don't know what bandwidth throttling is. Oh wait, it's 2003, DANG!
What this means is that government can consider Linux when making purchasing decisions.
I thought they already could and have in most cases. Now they have the extra bit of paper which says its ok to use it though.
Linux got the highest rating possible.
Would you expect anything less?
Slashdot Mirror
I just hope it doesnt hail... *pop* fzzzzzzzzzzzz
Make them eat a can of spam for every email, umm I mean spam, they sent out. Death by Spam, cruel!..
Code != Copyright
They've assigned the copyrights (not code) over to the FSF. The code has always been available from: http://ecos.sourceware.org/getstart.html
I forgot to mention.. now with the OSDN legal fund this move by Novell might be a bit late.. Some businesses might now see that they have the option of possible OSDN protection or buy a distro with support and protection..
If you have had a hand in development of Unix, now own suse and know probably where most of the source code came from in unix (development history too).. wouldnt you make this move and hopefully cash in on some sales.
People might see that Novell have been part of unix development, add that to the current copyright dispute with SCO and that Novell do have some rights. This could swing it for those companies wanting to use linux but dont want the risk. They might go with suse now, get some legal protection and have the perception that novell knows SCO's claims are utter BS and have now covered you from any lawsuit SCO may or may not file.
Just a thought.
I think the SCO exec are misleading investors. You can see it with their FUD releases which claim one thing after another. While we see these for their true value, investors might not have the same perspective. They see one company suing another huge company for a lot of cash and is claiming ownership over parts of a widely used kernel/os.
With the lawsuit and the recent injection of venture capital, plus the latest financial reports saying their licensing drive is making money *but* they spent it on lawyers, I think the investors are keeping the stock until after SCO has to show their cards. If you see a stock jump from $1 to $20 at the high and is now at $10 with more news to come, might you not atleast *consider* paying the $10 per share incase they do have a legitimate claim against Linux which then pushes their stock way above $20.
Unfortunately this, to us, looks like a pump and dump (as shown by sco execs) but the SEC probably wont investigate until after the lawsuit is settled/dismissed/whatever and the outcome of it wont be quick. By that time I assume Darl and friends will be long gone to Soviet Russia/Cuba.
Just a thought, oh and IANAI (I am not an investor)
"Deep dea diver"
yeh, when I grow up I want to dive into deep dea.
Ah crap, I hope he will firewall *.aol.com from the submissions page.
.. what SCO will have to say about this...
... When all you needed was a pencil
I guess Geer should read "The Surprising Benefits of Being Unemployed" from earlier. Perhaps it will help?
Wait, their stock is going down and there is some bad press on them plus an addition to the IBM suit...I think its that time, I just cant wait for their next FUD release.
Spam Filters
Just read that copyright on the top of the kernel.org link (along with the GPL)
Strange how they still have to hide their little snip of code IF its exactly the same as the Linux one :X Right now that only proves the comment is almost the same.
I thought the Automatic Updating Service in XP Pro already did this. It has the options to download and install, download and let you decide, just tell you there is a patch or of course you can disable it totally... I fail to see how this "new" idea is any different. I thought the XP auto update was set to download and inform by default so perhaps they're just switching the default setting.
Just have a look for yourself. Control Panel > System > Automatic Updates
I was bored, so... the honeypot is now up..
It works exactly like the email address generator.. It generates random file names which contain the various "copyrighted" titles. Some are mixed around like the package manager. Any clicked link will take you to a file which just has some information for any human that it is the honeypot etc etc. I won't post the url as it logs all the lovely IPs, user agents, dates, times and whether it accessed the files to check. Plus I dont think I could survive the slashdotting.
Gimme my C&D letter!
VNC go boom
Actually I pay for my dedicated servers so I don't freeload off Geocities.. Plus I'm also one of those Yahoo Shareholders so I've also paid for that. I also used to be a premium user on Geocities back before Yahoo owned it. Plus I was one of those Community Leaders there... So actually I don't get anything for free from Geocities. Perhaps next time you shouldn't assume so many things.
Oh, I so did not expect that to be offline when I saw it was on geocities. I thought it was 1999 where Geocities is not owned by Yahoo and they don't know what bandwidth throttling is. Oh wait, it's 2003, DANG!
Don't you just feel like you're getting value for money... that must be some good toilet paper!
I've always wanted toilet paper worth $699!
Lawsuit costs: $5 million
Stock sale value: $500,000
FUD damage value to linux: $10 million
Right to use SCO IP in a Linux distribution: $699
Having IBM and RedHat's lawyers wipe SCO out in court: PRICELESS
What this means is that government can consider Linux when making purchasing decisions.
I thought they already could and have in most cases. Now they have the extra bit of paper which says its ok to use it though.
Linux got the highest rating possible.
Would you expect anything less?
I hope Stone knows where he can send that nice fat check for the fund.