Bob The Builder Gets A Personality Transplant
McCarrum writes "Here at 'undisclosed company,' there's been a push to bring a mascot into our IT team. After much discussion and many excellent ideas, the PHB made the executive decision on Bob the Builder. Enter one Bob the Builder talking doll. Talking?! By Crom, that means a chipset! (cue evil laugh) A quick bit of exploratory surgery and a little research later, we purchased the equipment to create EVIL BOB. Want to make your own EVIL BOB? Click the clicky clicky thing!"
And the geocities site linked to slashdot has hit its data transfer cap...who didn't see that coming? Show of hands? Okay, you all can leave now.
Mordor...a magical, mythical land where women are more rare than dragons--but where every man would rather find a dragon
He probably should've hosted it at 'undisclosed company'.com but I guees it would'nt be so 'undisclosed'
i can dig it...just choose not to
Shame the site is down the video of the demo where Bob passed the Turing Test was really impressive.
This is what you get for previewing your submitions -- all that testing your link maxes out the bandwidth cap for the site! See why there are so many bad links/dupes on slahdot? It's because the editors don't want to kill the sites fore everyone :)
My other car is first.
...since not even paying subscribers had the time to read the content on that Geocities cite and we'll forget all about this before it becomes available again...does that mean that we all can post without reading the article, guessing and writing IANAL and IANAEB (I Am Not An Evil Bob) posts?
:-)
I don't think anyone will notice the difference
The clicky clicky thing is bwoken!
A Geocities site slashdotted. Well I never.
yes, we have no bananas
http://members.iinet.net.au/~tomday/
generic
"Bob the IT support guy!"
"Bob the IT support guy!"
"can he fix it?!?"
"No he can't, because that's not his department, it's a software issue and it was raised with management over a month ago"
Be you Admins? nay, we are but lusers!
Mirror
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Bob the builder? As a IT mascot? I'm dumbfuzzled... we are talking of the animated doll who are routinly seen talking to his concrete-mixer, arn't we? Not an obvious choise for a IT-department I feel (even thought his motto of "Can we fix it? Yes, we can" seems appropriate).
Well, the PHB made the executive decision; I guess the blame for Evil Bob resides with him. Still, I feel that maybe Will E. Coyote would be a better pick - can anyone come up with more suggestions?
Everything in the world is controlled by a small, evil group to which, unfortunately, no one you know belongs.
I am a much better mascot.
I already checked google and archive.org wayback machine. Nope sorry.
The GC is by far not as childish as the arguing of non-GC owners why the GC is childish.
Thanx for the mirror.
Keep digging, There's hole here some where!
That image on the upper right is vaguely dissettling. A kid's toy in the "catch" position with a mung rag. Nasty.
Oh, I so did not expect that to be offline when I saw it was on geocities. I thought it was 1999 where Geocities is not owned by Yahoo and they don't know what bandwidth throttling is. Oh wait, it's 2003, DANG!
I bet you're one of those people that always wonders why slashdot doesn't get slashdotted.
(sorry)
Slashdot monitor for your Mozilla sidebar or Active Desktop.
Bob the Builder. A lot of people know him, he is an all round Mr. Fix-it handyman sort of chap. He is the subject of a TV show and videos along with much merchandising. Worshipped by a lot of children gave him confidence, possibly buoyed by these successes he ventured into fresh territory. Hostile territory. Where forces lurked beyond his fixing, forces that warped him into a twisted copy of his former self, made him into something that could change between his former chirpy self and something that looked the same but spoke in many voices most of which are not nice. Here is the tale of how this came to pass.
As a morale boosting exercise, Bob the Builder was brought into our office. The idea being that if someone was having a bad day then Bob could help them through it. The model we received has a story book with it and you can read along with Bob by pressing the numbered patches on his body. Bob's voice is bright and chirpy and, above all, all so British. About five minutes after having Bob quite a few people started muttering about making Bob say something else, this just goes to show the danger of lobbing an electronic toy in amongst a mob IS Professionals - the desire to hack things became strong.
So off to google we went to see if anyone else had managed to do the job already. After a bit of a search around we found no hits on hacking a Bob the Builder toy, someone had hacked a talking fish but that was not what we were after. After failing to find anything on Google we did a bit of exploratory surgery by unpicking the stitching. Pulling out the electronic voice box revealed a bit of a setback, the electronics that controlled the voice were sealed under a blob of black epoxy. Evidently, there was no simple way to modify the existing hardware to bend it to our will. Another method needed to be found.
As it happened, not long before Bob turned up we had been digging into our diesel generator voice notification machine with the view to reprogramming it. The voice recorder part of the machine was the APR9600 made by APlus Inc. This chip can provide up to eight short messages, is programmable on the fly and does not need any MPU to perform these functions. In short, the chip was an ideal fit for what we wanted to do. By paralleling the existing switch points used to trigger the original speech segments and switching the speaker outputs between the original chip and the new one we could give Bob a whole new personality but, more importantly, we could keep the original Bob intact which is something we needed to do. We had a plan...
Sourcing the APR9600 was surprisingly difficult but we managed to locate one place that sold them locally which saved us importing one from overseas. We needed a container of some sort to hold the circuitry, given the APR9600 is a 28 pin DIP, an old film canister made a reasonable sized container to provide protection for the circuitry. A piece of veroboard was cut to fit into the canister, the very few passive components required for the operation of the APR9600 fitted fairly easily into the restricted space. The circuit is almost exactly the same as the example given in the applications notes for a eight segment recorder, the only difference is that the input is fed via an external active source (clamped by a couple of paralleled diodes) instead of an electret microphone. The APR9600 is a wonderful device, it handles all the anti-aliasing filtering, AGC, digitisation, storage and playback of the sound samples by itself, the passive components are only there to set the sample rate and the AGC time constant. Once the circuit was built, it was tested on the bench - interestingly enough, the first segment of the APR9600 appears to be factory programmed someone saying some Taiwanese - probably as a factory test. After a short debug the device was fully operational an
Schlock Mercenary.
does it actually do anything other than link into toys existing switches?
The images show the speaker seperate with their voice recording/playback circutry
I was expecting the actually ROM/RAM to be accessed reprogrammed hacked.
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"Can We Sue them? Yes, We can!"
-B
ok - someone give me a mail message and I will point you at some where that is not /.'ed to hell so you can wget a copy.
No we can't 'cos its on Geocities.
Looks like Spud was the editor who decided to post a story with a link to Geocities
Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
Karma: Chameleon
For the copy-paste impaired...
That geocities webby is mine... they did not mention anything about a cap when I put the stuff there... the swine. Anyway, I do have another copy online but I know that will get /.'ed within seconds. If anyone has space for ~500k of text/pictures I can point you at a site to get the stuff from.
Lemme see... the site is Slashdotted and not cached, so I'll take a guess that 'Evil' Bob is going to express dodgy political opinions and make sexist comments at passing women.
Sounds like a fairly run-of-the-mill builder to me...
For bonus points, pull Bob's trousers down far enough to expose at least 2" of arse cleavage and give him a copy of 'The Sun' (doesn't work if he's meant to be American though...)
"Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
Let's hijack this topic for discussing something more fun, then.
Lord knows we have plenty to choose from.
"Evil" Bob the Builder? GeoCities link? "By Crom?"
Hope this isn't a sign of a slow/dorky news day to come...
Maybe the Undisclosed Company is SCO? I guess they got an Evil Bob because they already had an Evil Darl. (He probably dances around like Ballmer but shouting "LAWYERS! LAWYERS! LAWYERS!")
Second mirror: http://shifted.ca/btb/
He who laughs last is stuck in a time dilation bubble.
Bob didn't need a mod to make him evil, he already was!
Think about it for a moment... when was the last time that you met a builder who was polite, well spoken, efficient, well dressed (no builder's bum), fixed things quickly, didn't have a copy of The Sun in his back pocket, didn't drink tea and talk football (soccer) constantly, didn't whistle at women constantly, answered the question "Can we fix it?" with anything other that "It'll cost you" and actually wore a hard hat?
One you take the talking (possessed) site equipment into consideration Bob seems very much like the Anti-Builder!
If you want to create your own talking screen character, try this: Microsoft Agent (Don't believe it's EVIL? Just look at that URL!) Humourous possibilities abound! (Only runs on MSlave boxes, duh!)
Sorry, no. The chip in the doll was pretty much unusable, so we bypassed it (I prefer the word upgrade) to be able to do the new sounds. The bonus was having it so we retained the original Bob personality for when the PHB wanted it, and making it turn Evil when the rest of us had him.
Robert Anton Wilson
well... close but not quite: 1) "Denied" from Quake 3 2) "Fire in the hole" from Counter-strike 3) "I can't remember asking you a god damn thing" from pulp fiction 4) "I'm going to get medieval on your ass" from pulp fiction 5) "Need Backup" from Counter-Strike 6) "Screw you guys, I'm going home" from South Park Unfortunately, expletives are ruled out coz of some touchy feely crap.
"As a morale boosting exercise, Bob the Builder was brought into our office."
At any of the places I've ever worked, that sort of thing would have killed morale. The more I think about it, the more insulting it seems.
First there is the idea of having a mascot. So the company thinks you're a bunch of high school kids and they're trying to pump you up for the big game?
Then there's the idea of a cartoon figure for 5 year olds as your mascot. I guess they don't even think of you as high school kids.
Thank the gods that I don't own a stake in your company. I would imagine that the owners of your company would prefer you guys to be working on turning a profit, not playing with toys you should have put away in first grade.
. Quit playing Monopoly with Bill. Switch to one of many non-Microsoft products today.
Apparently, Bob the Builder will be called Bob the Construction worker in the US because Americans don't know what a builder is.
Doesn't have the same ring to it does it?
My favorite came from the time that a box was needed to put a prototype board into. One of the engineers made a trip to the hardware store and found a battery operated radio controlled doorbell. The case was just the right size. Afterwards the guts of the thing was still lying around so afterhours the ceiling tiles in a VP's office were lifted and the bell was placed in there. The button went to the bulletin board along with a sign reading "Press Me". So, naturally, it got pressed. A LOT. The VP being your typical PHB type never could figure out where the door bell noise was coming from. And he couldn't put two and two together as he was seen, in the lunch room, vigorously pushing the button and asking "What does this do?"
The piece de resistance was when the engineer in question had a meeting in the VP's office. He took the button off the board and kept it in his pocket, pressing it at appropriate times during the meeting.
Naaah. Just Conan the Barbarian.
Crom was that cute deity Conan believed in. "Don't pray to Cron because if he sees you praying, he will find you weak and you may be punished for your weakness."
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Why does this remind me of the talking bat from Babylon 5 - River of Souls? Starts as a "cheer-you-up" stress reliever saying "I love you!" and "I forgive you!" whenever you hit something with it. Once a hacking tech gets his hands on it, it makes a handsome gift for the annoying lawyer, "I'm an idiot!", "I'm a loser!", "No one likes me!", and "My mommy dresses me funny!"
But why is the rum gone?
I know this is a bit off topic... but interesting all the same.
Actually, Crom was a god who was worshipped by the Celts in what is now Ireland. Here's a link to some additional background:
http://www.folklegend.com/article1072.html
-dj
- dj
I once had a story that William Shatner had his 70th birthday.. REJECTED(!)
That is incredibly relevant, I am appalled! They rejected my story on how shellac is made. Is there no end?
Its sad, it seems that no one has their own imagination these days. Instead of *creating* a mascot of their own, this team could only come up with stealing a character, who's sole purpose is to sell toys.
How about Cary the Coder -- the skinny geek... or Compile Kile a dapper, leather jacket cool-dude? or Jimmy the Bug a vile insect of software-flaws..?
instead they cant break out of the mass conscienceness, and decided that BobTheBuilder is there own... sad. sad. sad.
I say F Bob The Builder, Barney and Pokemon... thiere sole purpose is to convert your children into passive consumers, to sell them stuff, keep that crap out of your lives.
any chance you might put together a couple wiring diagrams?
Who wants to start going to Toys 'R' Us (notice it's spelt Us and not U$) and/or Amazon.com and/or where ever and going to buy a Bob the Builder, mod it...
and return it.
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Interesting read.
I have over 70 freaks, do you?
I once had a story that William Shatner had his 70th birthday.. REJECTED(!)
Try again next year.
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It would be great if you could extend this with a PIC or something, so that Bob would be his normal self, but say something evil every so often to really confuse the PHB...
:)
Or maybe a small RF reciever so he could be remotely triggered to say something evil? Hmmmm... I like that one
Well, Evil Bob can be altered at your whim. All you need to do is flip the record switch to on, plug in the cable from your Audio Out to his input (that's right folks .. Bob does it Matrix style), and press the required trigger (ie his hand, the hammer, his head, whatever) and wait for the beep. Hear the beep, press play on the sound you want recorded.
...
My favourite is his left foot. Currently, it's 'Screw you guys, I'm going home'. But it's a close second with his spanner saying 'I'm going to get medieval on his ass'
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Robert Anton Wilson
"Yup, here's your problem. Someone set this thing to 'Evil.'"
I hope some blue-collar worker kicks your ass. Though, chances are that has happened several times already.
Actually, no. I threatened him with kung-fu like a good nerd/Slashdot-reader and he ran away crying.
"Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
My kid watches this show sometimes and it annoys the heck out of me. I'd love to do this to one of the little creatures. Where can I get one of these things?
MMORPG Fan? Prove your worth!
there is a chance, if there is demand. Really, as I said in the article, the thing is pretty much there in the application notes, only the inverter stuff is missing. Oh, one hint (if anyone ever reads this) the apr9600 is much happier having the m8 (message 8 pin) pulled high even when you are in 8 message mode.
"By Crom"? Do we have a Squaxx dek Thargo in the house?
Crom was the accounting program (played by Peter Jurasik) in Tron.
(Yeah, I know, very geeky. I heard Peter Jurasik was in the film, but couldn't figure out who he was playing... isn't the web useless?)
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if you could divine the chip that lurked under the anonymous black blob...you may have a chance, even then I suspect that the thing is mask programmed (or, at least, fusible link programmed - a one shot process) so pretty much the original guts could not be bent to our will, pity - I did have hopes for that initially.
You gotta get bobs head to spin and shoot pea soop!!
Linux: Helping nerds look smarter since the late 90s.
Is there a mirror out there. /. effect you know.
Set Bob->1
if(!Bob)
{
Bob++
}
I am Bennett Haselton! I am Bennett Haselton!
Nerds who are *really* interested in Bob should go see the Live show. The in-laws took our then-two-year-old, and we went along.
The vehicles are really well done... all sorts of RC servo stuff going on there. (The characters are good, too, as mascot-type suits go, but that's not as cool.) Aside from the fact that it was TWENTY-FIVE BUCKS A TICKET even for the nosebleed section, I'd've liked to have been all the way down behind the controllers' booth.
It's a little unsettling to see/hear them singing "Mambo No. 5" knowing all the original words, but still.
Slashdot's token middle-aged housewife
Puuha-Pete, kaiken korjaa,
Puuha-Pete, tietenkin!
..in finnish..
love slashdot. populate it. use it. abuse it. hate it. kill it. miss it. stop following links, they only kill servers.
(It's the treehouse of Horror 3 episode)
Personally, what I'd like to do is hack the music chips in my baby's toys. She seems to prefer Metallica over Twinkle Twinkle Little Star anyway. Unfortunatley, I'm a programmer, not an EE.
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B5 had totally faded from my consciousness.
I mean, ok, it had it's sins. The acting was sometimes atrocious, the special effects were sometimes laughable, and many of the attempts at creating a Tolkienesque sense of wonder and history and weight failed as a result.
But those sins are more than wiped out -- a dozen times over -- by the moments of pure, unadulterated brilliance. And most of the time, the acting was good, and the directing was top-notch, and the special effects did their job, and more than anything else (and more than any other scifi series), Babylon 5, with it's rich pallette of characters and deeply personal storylines, felt like a real place.
I have every single B5 episode . . . but, you know, I really want them on DVD now. I haven't watched them in the longest time . . .
If it's Evil Bob shouldn't it be saying stuff like
"Through the darkness of future past,
The magician longs to see.
One chance out between two worlds,
Fire, walk with me."
"Information wants to be paid"
From [9F04]
Doll: Guess who, Fat boy!!
Homer: [blinded, bumping around, with the doll strapped to his head]
Marge! Marge! Look!
Marge: [from the kitchen] Oh, my God!
Homer: [staggering into the kitchen] The doll's trying to kill me and the
toaster's been laughin' at me!
Homer and the Killer Doll roll about the floor and Homer has his face dunked
in the dog dish (``Eeeew! Dog water!'') Marge calls the number on the
Krusty doll box (1-900-DON'T-SUE).
Marge: Your doll is trying to kill my husband! [pause] Yes, I'll hold.
Marge lets the Krusty Co. repairman into the kitchen, to see Homer on the
floor, the doll yanking at his tongue. Picking up the doll, the repairman
identifies the problem.
Repairman: [pointing to a Good/Evil switch on the back of the doll]
Yup, here's your problem. Someone set this thing to ``Evil''.
M@
Krispy Cream is people
User: "What do I need to do to get this work request approved?"
Bender: "Kiss my shiny metal ass!"
There is absolutely nothing worse than culture by executive decision.
Healthcare article at Kuro5hin
Isn't Crom a R. E. Howard (Conan the Barbarian) God?
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
better luck next time ;)
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This is a character who can't operate a phone-answering machine and who doesn't think to check the batteries when his PDA goes dead.
Bob the Builder's personality transplants YOU!
Unfortunatley, I'm a programmer, not an EE.
Bah! What's the difference? You have a soldering iron, right?
This isn't any ordinary darkness. It's advanced darkness.
The supplied like to Bob the Builder may not be the official one. Which accoding to my younger friends is Bob the builder. Its actually kept a lot of kids in the hood amused for a good long while, despight being a very unslashdotish flash site.
There are four sorts of people in the world: fools, lunatics, idiots and morons. - Umberto Eco, Foucaut's pendulum.
Oh no, General Disarray. It's no fun if the Simpsons already did it.
and I quote from the final battle... ... Thay say that valor pleases you than grant me this one request ...grant me REVENGE!"
"Crom, I have not prayed to you, I have no tongue for it.
The supplied like to Bob the Builder may not be the official one. Which accoding to my younger friends is Bob the builder. Its actually kept a lot of kids in the hood amused for a good long while, despight being a very unslashdotish flash site.
There are four sorts of people in the world: fools, lunatics, idiots and morons. - Umberto Eco, Foucaut's pendulum.
But next year he'll be 71, and it won't be nearly as interesting...
www.sniggle.net ("the culture jammer's encyclopedia") links to a couple of little hacks like this. In the most famous one, a group switched a bunch of voice chips between Barbie and GI Joe dolls, so Joe was saying things like "Let's go shopping!" Another interesting if less pointed experiment involved filling a bunch of teddy bears with cement and placing them on the shelves of a major toy store ...
I though every one knew that EVIL BOBs (bitmap object) come in the BMP format, they even started off life twisted.
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
Does this mean there's no hope for the future of free music? At least the classic folk melody, popularized by a five-year-old W.A. Mozart, is out of copyright and the decomposed composer doesn't insist upon users buying the CD. Your child needs educating about media industry politics!
Hopefully it's just that your offspring's musical tastes are appropriate for her age group (i.e. seriously infantile - after all, my own kids were heavily into CMTV at that age...).
what kind of Evil bosses do you have, if this was war and you where prisoners of war, then inflicting Bob the builder on you would be a war crime. :-)
in my life God comes first.... but Linux is pretty high after that
Francis Smit
Can't tell a parody apart from a troll.
I'm not familiar with the chip you used, but there are more available alternatives. Digi-Key has the ISDxxx parts from Information Storage Devices(? i think that's their name) that are analog sound recorders and quite easy to use: just add mic and speaker and a few passive components et voila. I haven't played with them in years, but back then they were $10 for 30 seconds of sound. Bandwidth is suitable for speech or very simple music.
Now you've put ideas in my head. My son has some toys with really annoying voices/sounds that should be replaced. And I know I have a few of those ISD chips in my junk box...
Now you just need to make it switch automatically...maybe RFC 3514 support would be useful here.
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I wrote a bit called "Hurt Me Elmo" for Bob & Tom a few years back (on the FunHouse CD). I actually considered the possibility of having someone manufacture the little box to replace Tickle Me Elmo's factory installed laughing/jiggling box. The backlash could have generated some sales, and probably a lawsuit...
Michael
Do you have ESP?
Robert the gay bishop?
Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!
In Robert Howard's "Conan" series Crom was the god of the Cimmerians. Like the rest of the Cimmerian religious iconography Howard based it on scythian and pre-christian celtic sources.
Crom Cruach was the Irish Sun God; I think just before the Milesians finished kicking the collective De Danaan butt, but that's off the top of me head, it could have been in the firbolg era.
Bob's slogan, "Yes, We Can!" (or "Si Se Puede!" in Spanish) was/is the slogan of Cesar Chaves' United Farm Workers union. Plus, Bob has a hammer in his hand. Just add a sickle in his other hand, and he's ready for revolution. Your bosses are telling you to rise up and throw off the shackles of capitalist oppression.
My truck is like a series of tubes.
The only Bob mascot I've ever seen is Microsoft Bob
Massive networking attempt for friends
Something like this has been done before, only with something much more evil, Microsoft Barney. While the hacked Barney doesn't have freeform language, it does have freeform movement and can be remotely controlled.
I bought new sheets for college this semester and it only came with one pillowcase....
I decided to purchase another pillowcase for my other lonely naked pillow.. it was between scoobydoo, spongebob, thomas the tank engine, and bob the builder...
I chose the bob one and now i can make a talking bob to go with it! Hooray!
... or does this picture of original Bob on nickjr.com look like a storyboard for a pr0n video?
Rimshot?
Fnarr, fnarr!
You forgot the best part of that scene, the on-hold music that Marge gets to listen to: "Everybody Loves a Clown, So Why Don't You?"
I've seen one other, in which the FPers got to see around 5 files on the page, then the (Windoze-powered, using IIS, might I add) server....just.................slowed....down..... ..........and.......stopped.
That was before Subscribers saw mysterious future.
This is not the sig you're looking for.
For all those wanting their own evil bob the builder, or evil whatever.. check out these little badboys...
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What the hell kind of IT team has mascot anyways? I wonder if they have pep rallies for upcoming deadlines. And cheerleaders.
Hey... maybe it's not such a bad idea after all.
it's a short, dangerous step from Bob the Builder to one of these gals. Great mascot, bad for productivity.
I'd have a personalized plate on my car, but "toxic bachelor" won't fit into 7 letters.
You shoulda made it say "STOP POKING ME!".
Probably a variation of the "clickety click" that the BOFH uses every time he is victimizing someone.
Dang moderator.
Lamest mascot ever!
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The switch reverting Bob from his evil personality to his normal personality remind me of the switch on the back of the Krusty doll that was turned on evil when Homer bought it for Bart.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
Simpsons fan? Actually no. I have watched one single episode. The good/evil switch was a design requirement since our PHB was worried that HIS PHB may get an evil surprise. Odd how life imitates art, no?
She's four months old as of yesterday. My wife likes to subject her to NPR, Jazz, and Paul Simon. I've been playing various pieces of music for her to see what she responds to. She likes Black Sabbath, Metallica, Rush and most classical music. Dislikes include Iron Maiden, Def Leopard, AC/DC and Led Zepplin. Mostly, though, I get sick of hearing bad MIDI versions of the same 4 songs ad nauseum. Also, I thought Mozart was a teenager when he adapted TTLS.
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If you must play heavy rock to your little girl though then I hope you are aware just how sensitive an infant's inner ear is. Do keep the volume down, or by the time she starts school she will have suffered irreversible hearing loss.
I only mention this because the bands you mentioned are most often enjoyed with the volume turned up near to maximum. Since you are apparently an aficionado yourself, it's quite possible that what is almost deafening to her already registers as barely audible to you. If you can't get your hands on a noise meter to check for yourself then at least get an opinion from a responsible parent who is known to have an intact cochlea (i.e. no history of loud rock music or other headphone use).
I don't know the truth about Mozart's age when he composed the variations on what English speakers refer to as "Twinkle...", but I remember being told he was four - and a quick Google check before I posted turned up a few accounts claiming he was five, so I left it there.
Bob has already revealed a foul mouthed side... In the original release of the episode featuring Bob trying to put wallpaper up: when he gets wallpaper all over his head, you can distinctly hear him using the F-word and a number of other naughty words that we generally pretend children shouldn't hear. I could hardly believe this, but one of my friends has a copy, and we played it, and sure enough - rude words...She hadn't previously noticed. After all, Bob says exactly what you'd expect anyone else to say if they got gluey wallpaper all over their head instead of the wall. Just for completeness...
-- it must be true, it's on the internet.