I think the DoD would be interested, they have the biological hazard symbol so they must have biological weapons.. perhaps some connection to Iraq.. Wait, Hillary Rosen is writing the new Iraq copyright laws (story here) so obviously the mpaa would want their "interests" to be included.. There is the iraqi link.. I can see it now:
"RIAA/MPAA Information Minister: 'There are no innocent pirates, they steal from our mothers and children, they will be crushed in their computers'"
As far as I was aware, the majority of the "crew" for the films are paid a flat rate before the movie goes out. Then specific people (mostly the copyright holder.. aka the company aka its shareholders/execs) get a cut of any profits from boxoffice/dvd/vhs.. I know the director and actors usually do get a slice of the profits depending on their contracts etc.
Obviously I do not know the actual payment structure of the whole movie industry and am making some guesses. Downloading the movie and not paying to see it/buy it on dvd is wrong. I believe artists/actors/directors should get paid for their skills, which is why I will pay to see the movies I like the look of and/or will buy the dvd.
I personally don't use Windows Media Player, never had. But like you said, it requires a carefully chosen media file which would exploit it, execute the code and do this without anyone suspecting it. I believe MS said that they had no evidence anyone had exploited it. The bugs probably do exist in other software but whether they will buffer overflow and execute the code you want is another matter. But either way, the virus in any file would probably be crafted for one specific problem in one specific (popular) media player.
Maybe they're using that same ISP that the RIAA uses (Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc), but after further investigation, they are on Ware(z)net, but of course we'll have to put this bit of information in (not that they have learnt from the RIAA but..) Windows 2000 - Microsoft-IIS/5.0 and for those who havent checked netcraft, it's also running on the same ip as mpaa.org
For those of you who *always* wondered what happens When you download movies illegally:
#1. You're cheating yourself.. absolutely, I divorce myself!
#2. You're threatening the livelihood of thousands.. just the MPAA member company shareholders/execs
#3. Your computer is vulnerable.. avi/mpeg/mov can carry a virus? Learn something new everyday!
#4. You're breaking the law.. >:]
The best part of their site was their "Music Games & More" section where they say
"Did you know that you can download the latest songs", I wonder what the RIAA would think.
"Don't cheat yourself (the poor shareholders/execs) out of the magic (new yacht/ferrari). Movies - They're worth it (HONEST!)!"
I don't know about other people, but I know that all of the movies have downloaded in the past I had actually paid to go see them before/after I had downloaded it and/or bought the dvd if I thought it was good. Not even Kazaa can beat Dolby 5.1 and a dvd picture:)
$202mil is pocket change to MS.. sad but relatively true. What happened to the "we're going to split them up"?.. Mow it's we're going to turn them into a foodstamp and software company! Next they'll be putting free coupons out in snailspam or on the side of xp boxes.. "Free mcdonalds kids meal when you buy one copy of windows xp home edition.. subject to terms and conditions, by taking this meal you waive any right to sue microsoft for anything, ever"... the last meal?
Class Members will be eligible to receive a total maximum amount of $202 million in vouchers, worth $5 for each license for Microsoft MS-DOS, Windows versions 1.0 to 3.2, Windows NT Workstation, Windows 2000 Professional, Word, Excel and Office software, and $12 for each license for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Millennium Edition that Class Members indirectly acquired in the United States between November 16, 1996 and December 31, 2002 for use in Florida
Isn't this just yet another slap on the wrist for microsoft. It just makes them use their ill gotten gains from the monopoly, which probably has earned them quite a bit in interest anyway. I have a feeling this is a bit like the previous case, give them some punishment which "looks" big but doesnt actually have any affect on them.
I think there was a linked slashdot article which had a purdy flash animation to explain all the physics involved in sending stuff to mars. Although I don't think the recently launched probes will have arrived there just yet.. I thought it was 9 months or something around that.
I bet that someone from that zetatalk or whatever it was will claim this is the famed Planet-X which was meant to destroy life as we know it back in may/june.
"Quick, get to your safe locations again, we *really* mean it this time, honest!"
Anyway, its always nice to see there is (I use this term lightly) "life" outside of this small planet. Now 34,649,589 miles doesnt seem to far. I'll definately have to have a look.
You would think Sun would be more inclined to push Solaris (v10 now?) as much as possible with their perpetual unix license. I know they're pushing it still saying how it will keep their customers free from any potential lawsuit from SCO, but you have to wonder why they made this move to back linux. Does their "expansion" to linux mean they are seeing that the unix ship is slowly sinking with SCO? I mean, wouldn't SCO see this as the large vendors jumping ship before it goes down?
I'm guessing Sun either are making no direct contributions to SuSE or believe their AT&T/SCO license will cover them and their customers. IBM still ships AIX but also pushes Linux as an alternative (getting that last bit of blood from that stone?). Perhaps IBM's reply to all of SCO's FUD has made Sun see the light (har).
I have to wonder what their *actual* motive was. I thought they wanted to keep the position of "solaris is fully licensed and free of tainted code" but now they're shipping the very product and potential liability they claimed they were protected against. Something in their unix license??
This sounds amazingly like a machine that some Sky subscribers in the UK have. Sky plus allows live pause, recording, playback etc etc etc. I can do all this already, but its nice to see this stuff catching on in Soviet Russia
The same people who got busted for price fixing on CDs are now claiming their profits are being stolen by those darned copyright theives! Of course stealing money through price fixing is not the same:p.. Their margin isn't down because the case forced them to lower their prices thereby lowering that margin. Of course they'll casually ignore the fact that the sales of cds have remained fairly constant but their profits are down.. MUST be due to those file sharers of course!
I dont remember who said it, but the RIAA (and its "member" labels) failed to innovate so they will litigate. Pretty sad.. its like SCO with IBM.. SCO failed with selling linux, IBM does well so we'll sue! I can see it now... Next on slashdot: SCO becomes member of RIAA
RIAA buys SCO linux license and unix ip licenses
THEN CAME FILE SWAPPING ON THE NET and the all-purpose computers attached to it. With the right software, individuals could copy digital content perfectly, quickly, and cheaply--and the presence of a (C) symbol did little to deter them from doing so.
In theory, of course, Title 17 applies to everyone. Even the Sony case of 1984 included a token individual defendant, a VCR owner who was the alleged direct infringer. But no one demanded that he pay damages or change his behavior. More recently the Recording Industry Association of America has sought the identities of individuals who use Internet file-trading services and has brought (and settled) suits against college students alleged to be organizing file-swapping circles within their university intranets.
Of course, they know the REAL pirates now! Those damn girl scouts singing puff the magic dragon without paying! Those poor artists.. oh wait, those poor record company execs/shareholders!
Oh and for those who still think the RIAA are going to sue everyone who ever opened a kazaa client (Hi Mike!)..
The recording industry is not going to sue the tens of thousands of Americans who engage in these practices. But it hopes to make an example of a few users to add teeth to the infringement warnings that file-swapping services send to their customers--and to pressure those services to pressure their customers to stop copying files.
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SCO wants someone to buy them, therefore buying out SCO effectively means they get what they *really* want.
Why thank you!
I am a cocksuckin' newbie with no brains. It's so nice to meet you Mr. oh, anonymous coward
I think the DoD would be interested, they have the biological hazard symbol so they must have biological weapons.. perhaps some connection to Iraq.. Wait, Hillary Rosen is writing the new Iraq copyright laws (story here) so obviously the mpaa would want their "interests" to be included.. There is the iraqi link.. I can see it now:
"RIAA/MPAA Information Minister: 'There are no innocent pirates, they steal from our mothers and children, they will be crushed in their computers'"
I think this strip from Penny Arcade sums up the Jurassic Park movies.
"Like Jurassic Park 4. Dinosaurmageddon."
"There was no Jurassic Park 4. That's not a real movie."
"That's what made it so great."
I think it was offline before we hit 20 posts.. that has to be some kind of record.
As far as I was aware, the majority of the "crew" for the films are paid a flat rate before the movie goes out. Then specific people (mostly the copyright holder.. aka the company aka its shareholders/execs) get a cut of any profits from boxoffice/dvd/vhs.. I know the director and actors usually do get a slice of the profits depending on their contracts etc.
Obviously I do not know the actual payment structure of the whole movie industry and am making some guesses. Downloading the movie and not paying to see it/buy it on dvd is wrong. I believe artists/actors/directors should get paid for their skills, which is why I will pay to see the movies I like the look of and/or will buy the dvd.
I personally don't use Windows Media Player, never had. But like you said, it requires a carefully chosen media file which would exploit it, execute the code and do this without anyone suspecting it. I believe MS said that they had no evidence anyone had exploited it. The bugs probably do exist in other software but whether they will buffer overflow and execute the code you want is another matter. But either way, the virus in any file would probably be crafted for one specific problem in one specific (popular) media player.
Maybe they're using that same ISP that the RIAA uses (Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc), but after further investigation, they are on Ware(z)net, but of course we'll have to put this bit of information in (not that they have learnt from the RIAA but..) Windows 2000 - Microsoft-IIS/5.0 and for those who havent checked netcraft, it's also running on the same ip as mpaa.org
For those of you who *always* wondered what happens When you download movies illegally:
:)
#1. You're cheating yourself.. absolutely, I divorce myself!
#2. You're threatening the livelihood of thousands.. just the MPAA member company shareholders/execs
#3. Your computer is vulnerable.. avi/mpeg/mov can carry a virus? Learn something new everyday!
#4. You're breaking the law.. >:]
The best part of their site was their "Music Games & More" section where they say "Did you know that you can download the latest songs", I wonder what the RIAA would think.
"Don't cheat yourself (the poor shareholders/execs) out of the magic (new yacht/ferrari). Movies - They're worth it (HONEST!)!"
I don't know about other people, but I know that all of the movies have downloaded in the past I had actually paid to go see them before/after I had downloaded it and/or bought the dvd if I thought it was good. Not even Kazaa can beat Dolby 5.1 and a dvd picture
$202mil is pocket change to MS.. sad but relatively true. What happened to the "we're going to split them up"?.. Mow it's we're going to turn them into a foodstamp and software company! Next they'll be putting free coupons out in snailspam or on the side of xp boxes.. "Free mcdonalds kids meal when you buy one copy of windows xp home edition.. subject to terms and conditions, by taking this meal you waive any right to sue microsoft for anything, ever"... the last meal?
Class Members will be eligible to receive a total maximum amount of $202 million in vouchers, worth $5 for each license for Microsoft MS-DOS, Windows versions 1.0 to 3.2, Windows NT Workstation, Windows 2000 Professional, Word, Excel and Office software, and $12 for each license for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Millennium Edition that Class Members indirectly acquired in the United States between November 16, 1996 and December 31, 2002 for use in Florida
Isn't this just yet another slap on the wrist for microsoft. It just makes them use their ill gotten gains from the monopoly, which probably has earned them quite a bit in interest anyway. I have a feeling this is a bit like the previous case, give them some punishment which "looks" big but doesnt actually have any affect on them.
I think there was a linked slashdot article which had a purdy flash animation to explain all the physics involved in sending stuff to mars. Although I don't think the recently launched probes will have arrived there just yet.. I thought it was 9 months or something around that.
How did I know that was coming.. I *must* be psychic
I bet that someone from that zetatalk or whatever it was will claim this is the famed Planet-X which was meant to destroy life as we know it back in may/june.
"Quick, get to your safe locations again, we *really* mean it this time, honest!"
Anyway, its always nice to see there is (I use this term lightly) "life" outside of this small planet. Now 34,649,589 miles doesnt seem to far. I'll definately have to have a look.
I don't know how electronics would respond to having copious amounts of KY on them ;P
You would think Sun would be more inclined to push Solaris (v10 now?) as much as possible with their perpetual unix license. I know they're pushing it still saying how it will keep their customers free from any potential lawsuit from SCO, but you have to wonder why they made this move to back linux. Does their "expansion" to linux mean they are seeing that the unix ship is slowly sinking with SCO? I mean, wouldn't SCO see this as the large vendors jumping ship before it goes down?
I'm guessing Sun either are making no direct contributions to SuSE or believe their AT&T/SCO license will cover them and their customers. IBM still ships AIX but also pushes Linux as an alternative (getting that last bit of blood from that stone?). Perhaps IBM's reply to all of SCO's FUD has made Sun see the light (har).
I have to wonder what their *actual* motive was. I thought they wanted to keep the position of "solaris is fully licensed and free of tainted code" but now they're shipping the very product and potential liability they claimed they were protected against. Something in their unix license??
It was a bad attempt at a joke :p
This sounds amazingly like a machine that some Sky subscribers in the UK have. Sky plus allows live pause, recording, playback etc etc etc. I can do all this already, but its nice to see this stuff catching on in Soviet Russia
I wonder what SCO will have to say.
SCO: "Buy our license!"
Sun: "No, we have our unix license, beyotch!"
SCO: "Awww, ummm... we'll sue"
*click.. brrrrrrrrrrr*
SCO: "hello?"
The same people who got busted for price fixing on CDs are now claiming their profits are being stolen by those darned copyright theives! Of course stealing money through price fixing is not the same :p.. Their margin isn't down because the case forced them to lower their prices thereby lowering that margin. Of course they'll casually ignore the fact that the sales of cds have remained fairly constant but their profits are down.. MUST be due to those file sharers of course!
I dont remember who said it, but the RIAA (and its "member" labels) failed to innovate so they will litigate. Pretty sad.. its like SCO with IBM.. SCO failed with selling linux, IBM does well so we'll sue! I can see it now... Next on slashdot:
SCO becomes member of RIAA
RIAA buys SCO linux license and unix ip licenses
THEN CAME FILE SWAPPING ON THE NET and the all-purpose computers attached to it. With the right software, individuals could copy digital content perfectly, quickly, and cheaply--and the presence of a (C) symbol did little to deter them from doing so.
In theory, of course, Title 17 applies to everyone. Even the Sony case of 1984 included a token individual defendant, a VCR owner who was the alleged direct infringer. But no one demanded that he pay damages or change his behavior. More recently the Recording Industry Association of America has sought the identities of individuals who use Internet file-trading services and has brought (and settled) suits against college students alleged to be organizing file-swapping circles within their university intranets.
Of course, they know the REAL pirates now! Those damn girl scouts singing puff the magic dragon without paying! Those poor artists.. oh wait, those poor record company execs/shareholders! Oh and for those who still think the RIAA are going to sue everyone who ever opened a kazaa client (Hi Mike!)..
The recording industry is not going to sue the tens of thousands of Americans who engage in these practices. But it hopes to make an example of a few users to add teeth to the infringement warnings that file-swapping services send to their customers--and to pressure those services to pressure their customers to stop copying files.
Girl Scouts who sing "Puff, the Magic Dragon" owe royalties
Oh of course, the record label needs all the money they can get to keep suing kazaa users.
1. Expand into already declining areas of the internet.
2. ????
3. PROFIT!
Maybe Bill wants an excuse to browse all the porn? It's for work, HONEST!