Lately I've been really pessimistic about the whole thing, I mean, really, who cares? Even if there were intelligent life on planets that close, we would only be able to exchange communication once every 10 years, not enough to actually learn their language, and we would never be able to travel to visit them, right?
I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Sure, conversations would have multi-year latency, but so what? I mean, I don't communicate with Japan, but I still find their cartoons hilarious. Some people in Japan watch American TV and enjoy it, even if they never contact the producer to tell them as much. Once contact is established between two civilisations, you'd have constant data being sent back and forth. It's impossible to say if we'd figure out a language, but it'd still be interesting just to see what they put out there for the universe to see.
And, honestly, I feel that language would be pretty doable, if you get something like TV established. It might be impossible if all we ever get is radio, so we can never see a context for their words, but if we can get something like "Barney" for aliens, we'd probably be able to sort out some of what they are saying.
Sooo....we'd get to watch alien television.
Some where out there...there's a planet of cat girls working hard to finish a animated series about squishy pink aliens who call themselves geeks.
the Religious people will probably kill Jesus for the second time, not the atheists.
Religious people didn't kill him the first time, they petitioned their secular government to do it for them but feel free to wash your hands of the whole issue.
As true as the outcome may be, that still doesn't validate the necessity of a race to procure a speedier advancement.
You don't think that if the USA And the USSR had worked together that we wouldn't have gotten there just as quick, if not quicker?
No if we had worked together things would still be tied up in a international comittee and at best we would have a non-binding resolution to send a strongly worded letter to the moon stating our intentions to visit it someday.
82,000 years ago I was a cat! In time: solid ball became hollow one – concomitant changes in the correlation structure were mitigated and I forgot what this meant. Never condition on the future.
FUCK
Betwixt me! Against me! Forlorn antipathy, against which a lurgid bee doth protest unkindly.
Pie crust: kneading moist dough causes proteins to entangle (not applicable) = unpleasant mouthfeel. Moisturizing the dough to workability with high proof vodka (and the usual buttering/short) instead of water, thus gives superior results! Just ask Vivaldi and the late lobster-murdering Julia^H^H^H^Hesus Child^H^H^Hrist savour of the tulip factory.
THIS IS WORSE THAN SOMETHING BUT I DON'T REMEMBER YET WHAT IT WAS
Mustard is made from mustard seeds and is more properly called "prepared mustard". It's hard to know when to stop, though.
So "could" a lack of toilet paper, but I'm guessing you wouldn't be advocating laws stating that the toilet must always be fully stocked.
I'd advocate it. It's about time those fat cats in congress did somthing about this tragedy. Won't someone please think of the children!
If we run out of toilet paper the terrorists have already won!
What a bad analogy. If you don't get your lexus, at worst you don't have a car. Your neighbor doesn't get the health care she needs, she dies. I wish people would stop making analogies on slashdot, as they're invariably awful. While I'm at it, an end to world hunger would be nice too.
But it was a car analogy which automatically makes it correct.......right?
If this happened to me, I'd patiently wait until my trial was over. And if ironclad proof wasn't presented at the trial that there was NO OTHER WAY than the crime for the evidence being there, I wouldn't shut up until the Supreme Court had heard the case. I'd also make damned sure that every newspaper in the jurisdiction knew everything about the case, and would work to make sure every public official involved was either investigated themselves or voted out at the next election. And I'd want enough money to be set up for life from the jurisdiction that was stupid enough to let their public officials have search warrants when there was still reasonable doubt as to innocence. There would be no secrets, no way for the public officials to hide. Because I've already made damned sure that I have nothing to hide.
In other words, in my defense, these "excuses" would be nothing more than simple truth, and I'd make sure every official involved would pay in some way very personal to them.
Guess what, no one cares enough about you to create a media frenzy, unless your already famous.
Then those manufacturing jobs can come back to United States.
China has for decades been losing manufacturing jobs to robots faster than the US hase been losing manufacturing jobs to China. Any job that can be easily automated, from manufacturing to paper-pushing, will be. Those jobs are toast. There's no point in whining when they move to someone who's willing to work cheaper than a robot (or shell script) - those simply aren't jobs for humans in the long run.
This is *not* a zero sum game, nor a race to the bottom. If every human in the world were working efficiently (ie.e, not do work robots can do) we would be producing such an amazing amount of goods and services that everyone could have a comfortable lifestyle, despite uneven distribution of wealth. Forcing goods that could be made by robots to be made by humans, or otherwise lowering the efficiency of the total human economic output, only means less stuff to go around.
It doesn't matter if you have an amazing amount of goods if large percentage of the population is unemployed.
Oh, I don't think there's much risk of you or your kind ever "waking up"
Oh I'm awake... had to get to work eventually.
I may have been up all night playing WOW and was a danger to myself and others on the road this morning but I'm awake.
My mighty reserve of Karma laughs at your attempts to mod me down.
Oh, I don't think there's much risk of you or your kind ever "waking up"
Oh I'm awake... had to get to work eventually.
I may have been up all night playing WOW and was a danger to myself and others on the road this morning but I'm awake.
They do believe in natural selection obviously, since you can't make predictions (hence, do any science at all) from ID.
From a strict technical, linguistic-nazi, point of view : they don't *believe in* natural selection, they *believe that natural selection is an useful model they can use*.
Usually the phrase *believe in* implies some form of faith. Whereas scientist *just pick up* a model they consider the best for the situation, based on how much usable it is for making accurate predictions.
Now if only you could convince public schools to teach this simple fact. The only real problem with evolution is all the idiots who believe it to be absolute truth.
on falsification and the bacteria test. they indeed proved on a 40000 generation of bacteria in a 20 yr experiment that bacteria evolved to metabolize one of the constituent of the substrate which where supplemented in large quantity and which the bacteria where not able to digest at the start of the experiment.
it also passed on slashdot some time ago.
.,..and yet it was still a bacteria. Wake me up when they grow legs.
The effects might look cheesy now, but they were much better than anything else on TV at the time. If you really want to see cheesy effects, watch the original Dr. Who sometime, or Blake's 7, for that matter.
The black and white Dr Who wasm't that cheesey.
I think they actually took several steps backward when they first made it in color.
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I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Sure, conversations would have multi-year latency, but so what? I mean, I don't communicate with Japan, but I still find their cartoons hilarious. Some people in Japan watch American TV and enjoy it, even if they never contact the producer to tell them as much. Once contact is established between two civilisations, you'd have constant data being sent back and forth. It's impossible to say if we'd figure out a language, but it'd still be interesting just to see what they put out there for the universe to see.
And, honestly, I feel that language would be pretty doable, if you get something like TV established. It might be impossible if all we ever get is radio, so we can never see a context for their words, but if we can get something like "Barney" for aliens, we'd probably be able to sort out some of what they are saying.
Sooo....we'd get to watch alien television.
Some where out there...there's a planet of cat girls working hard to finish a animated series about squishy pink aliens who call themselves geeks.
What do you do to people who call it the "Jenova particle"?
Pretend I'm not home.
Jenova's Witnesses are annoying, they always show up when I'm eating.
the Religious people will probably kill Jesus for the second time, not the atheists.
Religious people didn't kill him the first time, they petitioned their secular government to do it for them but feel free to wash your hands of the whole issue.
As true as the outcome may be, that still doesn't validate the necessity of a race to procure a speedier advancement.
You don't think that if the USA And the USSR had worked together that we wouldn't have gotten there just as quick, if not quicker?
No if we had worked together things would still be tied up in a international comittee and at best we would have a non-binding resolution to send a strongly worded letter to the moon stating our intentions to visit it someday.
Giving odds for finding a theoretical particle is like giving odds on finding life in the solar system.
So it's one, then?
I think he ment intelligent life.
The odds are dependent on you faith in humanity.
Hmm. That's sad.
And how would you know how a 3 year old asian boy is hung?
Something to think about.
Don't jump to conclusions. He probably saw it in the mirror.
Which one is true? A lost router took out the whole internet, or you have a wife?
Well this is Slashdot......
82,000 years ago I was a cat! In time: solid ball became hollow one – concomitant changes in the correlation structure were mitigated and I forgot what this meant. Never condition on the future.
FUCK
Betwixt me! Against me! Forlorn antipathy, against which a lurgid bee doth protest unkindly.
Pie crust: kneading moist dough causes proteins to entangle (not applicable) = unpleasant mouthfeel. Moisturizing the dough to workability with high proof vodka (and the usual buttering/short) instead of water, thus gives superior results! Just ask Vivaldi and the late lobster-murdering Julia^H^H^H^Hesus Child^H^H^Hrist savour of the tulip factory.
THIS IS WORSE THAN SOMETHING BUT I DON'T REMEMBER YET WHAT IT WAS Mustard is made from mustard seeds and is more properly called "prepared mustard". It's hard to know when to stop, though.
(so see if I don't)
Duh....stop dumming it down. We get it!
Yeah, but do you really want to *talk* to a girl who would judge you based on your computer brand?
Yes!
A million times yes!
Maybe they could sell cheap leather shoes? They could bring in Bill to do his stand-up routine.
That's it!
They'll sell churros and make millions.
Are you so addicted to britney spears and adobe photoshop that you need to torrent them?
The first step is to admit it.
There's 11 more steps after that.
So "could" a lack of toilet paper, but I'm guessing you wouldn't be advocating laws stating that the toilet must always be fully stocked.
I'd advocate it. It's about time those fat cats in congress did somthing about this tragedy. Won't someone please think of the children! If we run out of toilet paper the terrorists have already won!
wouldn't it be easier to let the snakes freeze to death in the wintertime?
No snakes hibernate just like bears.
What a bad analogy. If you don't get your lexus, at worst you don't have a car. Your neighbor doesn't get the health care she needs, she dies. I wish people would stop making analogies on slashdot, as they're invariably awful. While I'm at it, an end to world hunger would be nice too.
But it was a car analogy which automatically makes it correct.......right?
coat it in honey and feed it to a bear.
No good, the bear will follow you around looking for more handouts. In the meantime operatives are tracking the bear.
TFA confirms it, near the end of the second page. It also only currently works at 100 megabits/second.
So my oc4 line is safe!
If this happened to me, I'd patiently wait until my trial was over. And if ironclad proof wasn't presented at the trial that there was NO OTHER WAY than the crime for the evidence being there, I wouldn't shut up until the Supreme Court had heard the case. I'd also make damned sure that every newspaper in the jurisdiction knew everything about the case, and would work to make sure every public official involved was either investigated themselves or voted out at the next election. And I'd want enough money to be set up for life from the jurisdiction that was stupid enough to let their public officials have search warrants when there was still reasonable doubt as to innocence. There would be no secrets, no way for the public officials to hide. Because I've already made damned sure that I have nothing to hide. In other words, in my defense, these "excuses" would be nothing more than simple truth, and I'd make sure every official involved would pay in some way very personal to them.
Guess what, no one cares enough about you to create a media frenzy, unless your already famous.
Then those manufacturing jobs can come back to United States.
China has for decades been losing manufacturing jobs to robots faster than the US hase been losing manufacturing jobs to China. Any job that can be easily automated, from manufacturing to paper-pushing, will be. Those jobs are toast. There's no point in whining when they move to someone who's willing to work cheaper than a robot (or shell script) - those simply aren't jobs for humans in the long run.
This is *not* a zero sum game, nor a race to the bottom. If every human in the world were working efficiently (ie.e, not do work robots can do) we would be producing such an amazing amount of goods and services that everyone could have a comfortable lifestyle, despite uneven distribution of wealth. Forcing goods that could be made by robots to be made by humans, or otherwise lowering the efficiency of the total human economic output, only means less stuff to go around.
It doesn't matter if you have an amazing amount of goods if large percentage of the population is unemployed.
Oh, I don't think there's much risk of you or your kind ever "waking up"
Oh I'm awake... had to get to work eventually. I may have been up all night playing WOW and was a danger to myself and others on the road this morning but I'm awake.
My mighty reserve of Karma laughs at your attempts to mod me down.
Smoked cheddar.
Oh, I don't think there's much risk of you or your kind ever "waking up"
Oh I'm awake... had to get to work eventually. I may have been up all night playing WOW and was a danger to myself and others on the road this morning but I'm awake.
They do believe in natural selection obviously, since you can't make predictions (hence, do any science at all) from ID.
From a strict technical, linguistic-nazi, point of view : they don't *believe in* natural selection, they *believe that natural selection is an useful model they can use*.
Usually the phrase *believe in* implies some form of faith. Whereas scientist *just pick up* a model they consider the best for the situation, based on how much usable it is for making accurate predictions.
Now if only you could convince public schools to teach this simple fact. The only real problem with evolution is all the idiots who believe it to be absolute truth.
That is, as the Brits say, bollocks.
The issue is that this ignorant view may be perpetuated in America. I have never heard anyone in Europe utter such crap.
Let us pray that Obama can wipe public references to deities into oblivion.
Right no religeous idiots in your country.....enjoy your shira law.
on falsification and the bacteria test. they indeed proved on a 40000 generation of bacteria in a 20 yr experiment that bacteria evolved to metabolize one of the constituent of the substrate which where supplemented in large quantity and which the bacteria where not able to digest at the start of the experiment. it also passed on slashdot some time ago.
.,..and yet it was still a bacteria. Wake me up when they grow legs.
TOS and its "cheesy" effects.
The effects might look cheesy now, but they were much better than anything else on TV at the time. If you really want to see cheesy effects, watch the original Dr. Who sometime, or Blake's 7, for that matter.
The black and white Dr Who wasm't that cheesey. I think they actually took several steps backward when they first made it in color.