You see, I'd love to be playing this, but at 60 for the game and 15 a month, that's just too rich for my tastes.
I think the game itself should be free and downloadable, then charge a monthly fee for the online access. I'm going to wait for the cost of the game to come down:(
Exactly. If marketing material is more and more targeted and all pervasive:
- I would find it really freaking creepy. I don't care if it is relevent or not - I would make a point of NOT shopping at anywhere that targeted me in this manner
Of course stores *may* realise that people don't want this kind of unsolicited hassle and start stating that they don't use this technique. You never know...
Regardless of where the 'beef' lies, and whose fault it is, non-removal apps should not be there. It removes freedom of choice and detracts from the user experience. You want me to buy your phone? Then don't mess it up by adding non-removable nagware and other such junk.
Certainly in all the most populous areas of Canada this is not allowed: BC, Ontario, QB. Sony don't have the choice here, the Supreme court has already ruled in a similar case.
"Canada's highest court ruled Friday that British Columbia consumers can pursue class action lawsuits even after signing contracts that appear to waive that right.
In a 5-4 ruling, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that B.C.'s consumer protection law allows customers to get past clauses in service contracts that say disputes must be resolved by private arbitration." ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/03/18/bc-supreme-ruling-telus-class-action.html
Good luck trying this here Sony, the courts would just kick it out.
'Clueless' - how apt. You really have no clue about OSX / UNIX do you?
"it simply is not OK for a person or computer company to dictate that it can't be changed, what apps are OK or not OK, or how to use YOUR device." You know we are talking about Macs, right? Please stand up and defend your statement.
Of course we have our own BES. So yes, it is secure as we own everything about it and, regarding the BES, know where every packet goes.
No it does not do this "sends everything through Canada BES servers. Or sometimes has the traffic take a side trip through something like a Saudi scanner depending on what country you are in." and if you can list your sources that would be great.
Actual sources though, not an unsubstantiated blog post. Oh you are making random stuff up? OK then, off you go.
This. If you leave your devices set to a 4 digit pin then really you are asking for trouble.
Setting your device to alpha-numeric-symbol and enforcing it through exchange or MDM is the way to go.
Also set your devices to auto-wipe after 10 password attempts to prevent brute force or guessing at poor passwords.
The reason you wouldn't stick your head out for the iPhone yet is you don't know enough, do your own research and don't go on 'news you heard some time ago.'
That's not quite true. The BB is a secure smart-ish-phone which makes it ideal for corporate/government use. It's locked down and encrypted.
Don't get on your platform high horse or anything, something happening too often here (get off my lawn) but...
Android isn't secure at all. Until Android phones start coming with hardware based encryption we can't use them, it basically rules them out at the first stage. People are pushing to use Android but it is a no go right now. Same for Windows Phone 7, no hardware encryption = no use, although no-one is pushing for WP7.
We're slowly moving to the iPhone 4 through Exchange and a MDM, people want to use the iPhone, we can configure it just as strongly as the BB and it has AES 256 hardware encryption. It's a win-win.
The company that sells this kit only sells to governments/military, not joe public. I'm not making assumptions on who wants to listen in, just letting you know how it is done.
Everything you just said. +5 or in eBay language AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA+++++
This isn't Kotaku or The Sun, this is/. How about some thought put in by the editors posting the story? Even if it is just 5 mins of checking, it would help.
"Skype has proprietary encryption that still has not been beaten"
Not beaten? Hate to break it to you (punne) but you can buy, if you are a government/military entity, off the shelf kits that do a wonderful man in the middle attack on Skype.
So get off your common people high horse and learn more.
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Authors are going to get less from this. Even if it works, 600K is not that much, what happens when the pool runs out?
Apple is not alone in this, via Wikipedia:
Foxconn manufactures products for companies including:
(country of headquarters in parentheses)
Acer Inc. (Taiwan) [27]
Amazon.com (United States)[28]
Apple Inc. (United States)[29]
ASRock (Taiwan)[citation needed]
Asus (Taiwan)[citation needed]
Barnes & Noble (United States)[citation needed]
Cisco (United States)[30]
Dell (United States) [31]
EVGA Corporation (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)[32]
Intel (United States)[33]
IBM (United States)[citation needed]
Lenovo (China)[citation needed]
Microsoft (United States)[34]
MSI (Taiwan)[citation needed]
Motorola (United States)[31]
Netgear (United States)[citation needed]
Nintendo (Japan) [35]
Nokia (Finland)[29]
Panasonic (Japan)[citation needed]
Samsung (South Korea)[36]
Sharp (Japan)[citation needed]
Sony (Japan) [37]
Sony Ericsson (Japan/Sweden)[38]
Vizio (United States)[39]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Major_customers
You should stop complaining. He's right, you're a shill. It's nothing to do with pro/anti Microsoft bias, I just read your posting history.
IE saved the web? Really? Wow ...
It also gropes or irradiates.
Personally I'd opt for the groping, embarrassing but safer.
It's unlawful here in Canada too. Seems like they can only apply this in the USA.
Thanks for the info, but 45 for a game that you then keep spending on monthly still just doesn't add up.
Why isn't the game free? Wouldn't they get more subscribers that way? After all, it is the monthly subscription that makes them the money.
They seem to be deliberatly hampering themselves by sticking to the WoW model much to closely.
You see, I'd love to be playing this, but at 60 for the game and 15 a month, that's just too rich for my tastes.
I think the game itself should be free and downloadable, then charge a monthly fee for the online access. I'm going to wait for the cost of the game to come down :(
But damn, it's so tempting to buy ...
Exactly. If marketing material is more and more targeted and all pervasive:
- I would find it really freaking creepy. I don't care if it is relevent or not
- I would make a point of NOT shopping at anywhere that targeted me in this manner
Of course stores *may* realise that people don't want this kind of unsolicited hassle and start stating that they don't use this technique. You never know ...
Not all Senators and Representatives can be technically illiterate, can they?
Does anyone know of any that are more receptive, they could get the word out then among their peers.
The idea seemed doomed from the start, based more out of nostagia than actual practicality.
You'd one one of the team would have said 'Hey guys, when you think about it, this just doesn't add up!'
(Insert Imperial or Metric gag here)
You hear completly wrong. I meant exactly what I said and I stand by it.
"You are right, it needs legalising and regulating. Nothing wrong with the concept of prostitution, it's all in the implementation.
Right now that's what's messed up. Legalise, tax it, regulate and it will be healthier, safer and better for the economy."
This isn't the place for personal stories, but lets just say I have personal experience relating to this.
It's a sad day when you see more trolls on /. than real posters. Someone has to call out the troll BS as it's really messing this site up.
But thanks for admitting you are a troll, you can now be ignored.
You are right, it needs legalising and regulating. Nothing wrong with the concept of prostitution, it's all in the implementation.
Right now that's what's messed up. Legalise, tax it, regulate and it will be healthier, safer and better for the economy.
You're an idiot. You understand that these factories don't just make Apple products, right? They make products for lots of big players.
Copy/Paste from Wikipedia's Foxconn page:
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)[16]
Apple Inc. (United States)[18]
ASRock (Taiwan)
Barnes & Noble (United States)
Intel (United States)
Cisco (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)[19]
Dell (United States)
Nintendo (Japan)
Nokia (Finland)[18]
Microsoft (United States)
MSI (Taiwan)
Motorola (United States)
Sony Ericsson (Japan/Sweden)[20]
Vizio (United States)
I don't think you get it.
Regardless of where the 'beef' lies, and whose fault it is, non-removal apps should not be there. It removes freedom of choice and detracts from the user experience. You want me to buy your phone? Then don't mess it up by adding non-removable nagware and other such junk.
Certainly in all the most populous areas of Canada this is not allowed: BC, Ontario, QB. Sony don't have the choice here, the Supreme court has already ruled in a similar case.
"Canada's highest court ruled Friday that British Columbia consumers can pursue class action lawsuits even after signing contracts that appear to waive that right.
In a 5-4 ruling, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that B.C.'s consumer protection law allows customers to get past clauses in service contracts that say disputes must be resolved by private arbitration." ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/03/18/bc-supreme-ruling-telus-class-action.html
Good luck trying this here Sony, the courts would just kick it out.
'Clueless' - how apt. You really have no clue about OSX / UNIX do you?
"it simply is not OK for a person or computer company to dictate that it can't be changed, what apps are OK or not OK, or how to use YOUR device." You know we are talking about Macs, right? Please stand up and defend your statement.
A lot of governments and corporations block Dropbox and the like as these services are hosted in the USA. Patriot act strikes again.
To do that they'd have to first brute force the full disk encryption we have on our devices. Security in depth, don't rely on one layer alone.
Anyway, if someone has physical access to your device, plus time and/or money, then it's game over.
Of course we have our own BES. So yes, it is secure as we own everything about it and, regarding the BES, know where every packet goes.
No it does not do this "sends everything through Canada BES servers. Or sometimes has the traffic take a side trip through something like a Saudi scanner depending on what country you are in." and if you can list your sources that would be great.
Actual sources though, not an unsubstantiated blog post. Oh you are making random stuff up? OK then, off you go.
This. If you leave your devices set to a 4 digit pin then really you are asking for trouble.
Setting your device to alpha-numeric-symbol and enforcing it through exchange or MDM is the way to go.
Also set your devices to auto-wipe after 10 password attempts to prevent brute force or guessing at poor passwords.
The reason you wouldn't stick your head out for the iPhone yet is you don't know enough, do your own research and don't go on 'news you heard some time ago.'
That's not quite true. The BB is a secure smart-ish-phone which makes it ideal for corporate/government use. It's locked down and encrypted.
Don't get on your platform high horse or anything, something happening too often here (get off my lawn) but ...
Android isn't secure at all. Until Android phones start coming with hardware based encryption we can't use them, it basically rules them out at the first stage. People are pushing to use Android but it is a no go right now. Same for Windows Phone 7, no hardware encryption = no use, although no-one is pushing for WP7.
We're slowly moving to the iPhone 4 through Exchange and a MDM, people want to use the iPhone, we can configure it just as strongly as the BB and it has AES 256 hardware encryption. It's a win-win.
The company that sells this kit only sells to governments/military, not joe public. I'm not making assumptions on who wants to listen in, just letting you know how it is done.
Everything you just said. +5 or in eBay language AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA+++++
This isn't Kotaku or The Sun, this is /. How about some thought put in by the editors posting the story? Even if it is just 5 mins of checking, it would help.
"Skype has proprietary encryption that still has not been beaten"
Not beaten? Hate to break it to you (punne) but you can buy, if you are a government/military entity, off the shelf kits that do a wonderful man in the middle attack on Skype.
So get off your common people high horse and learn more.