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Put like that, they could be renegotiating with a lot of vendors. Getting the cost of Windows down, though, is the logical first step. I doubt anybody would think Dell was going to go so OSS that they'd impact 3rd party software packages. MS, though, has an interest in keeping Windows in the forefront of people's minds.
... that the multi-year OEM contract for Dell and MS is about to come up for renegotiation.
"Why thank you for coming Mr/Mrs Microsoft-Sales-Person. We've had this interesting proposal where we have this free operating system to give out. We only have to pay about half of our prior fees you recieved and we get to customize it so that our product stands out from your other customers... in a way you wouldn't allow before. Tech support will be further outsourced to the internet support as those linux folks do love showing how smart they are (and most decent techs hit google first anyhow). So... what do you have for us today? Besides an unbalanced negotiation not in your favor?".
It'll be interesting to see if Dell sees this through or drops it once MS meets their pricing demands.
They can bribe judges, hire lawyers, buy congress, complain, make commercials and now train dogs. You would think that with all this money they could come up with a working business model other then abusing the legal system.
Strangely enough, the dog training is probably the best ROI they've had. A bit of training, lifetime supply of Alpo and a handler that'll take it home at the end of the day probably worked out cheaper than a week's worth of lawyer fees. Given that they're actually stopping for-profit-piracy, as opposed to just alienating their customers, it seems like they need to look this over and reallocate their funding.
Of all the organizations on the planet, the military should be the first to do something like this. All "real" emails from their servers should get a digital signature that their other servers will use for validations. If a.mil email doesn't have it, then it needs to be dropped immediately.
It certainly won't stop every spam, but it's a good first layer of protection. It will should help with spoofed military email addresses that get harvested. I personally think the emails should be fully encrypted before leaving the servers, but that's more for proper security, not just validation purposes.
Let's just jump to #3. Yes, the US has some of the best toys in the world. It could be better, but then again, it could be worse. Personally, I think most groups don't seriously consider doing a stand up and fight battle with modern military forces anymore. It's just suicidal, so, yeah. I can agree with you on that. Of course, suicidal attackers are harder to defend against, so that's why the tactic is used. Small scale, relatively low tech and harder to predict. While upgraded/new systems are good, I think a lot of time, effort and money needs to be put into curbing recruitment into these organizations. That probably would be of greater benefit to the populations of the world and to the bigger countries.
The quote you gave was good, but you might like "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" too. Or that's at least how the wiki has it quoted.
FYI: I really do like your stances.
1) Even in the military, there is a time and place for using such methods of arbitrary leadership. When I was a supervisor, I basically told my troops to talk to me and let me know their thoughts on things. When the time came, though, they had to jump when I said jump. So, I guess we agree, it's a matter of the circumstance?
2) I'd agree with you about corruption being out of place in a democracy, but that's an ideal. Granted, corruption is not the same as having different goals or ambitions than what you may have voted for. There are cases of out and out corruptions, such as Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's action. The more cynical of us think his mistake was getting caught. There are murmurings of the mayor of my county being backed by large companies to make decisions which are bad for small businesses. That may just be the folks that didn't agree with her, though.
3) The US Military, and it's equipment, being in bad shape is different than being better than the opponents. Older planes take more time, money and people to maintain. Granted, that's not to say battles are going to be lost soley on that matter, but when it gets down to it, the military buyers would like to decide what their budget goes towards.
You really can't prove the negative of a proposition like, "Not (all triangles have three sides)." ?
Sure you can. "Tri" means "3". Thus, if the shape has something other than 3 sides, then, by definition, it's not a triangle.
But a square is a rectangle as it meets all the criteria. There's also the "Which month has 28 days in it?" argument in which every month has 28 days. Every shape, except for circles (I hope), has three sides. Some just have those extra value sides included.
Well, how about this then. Your employer can discipline you for misconduct at work. The military can do so for misconduct done at any time, even if it's not work related (misconduct defined as something against the rules, but not necessarily wrong). The scope of it makes a difference. At least in the civilian world there can be debates regarding whether or not your rights have been violated. That's not always the case under the UCMJ.
Again, not to say that the differences are so huge or noticeable, but they are there. Personally I think adapting things like parents having to show up to parent-teacher conferences would actually be good for the country, but to compel such an act would undoubtedly be seen as interference of a parent's freedom of choice.
It's kinda cool to hear there are Wiccan chaplins now, though. At most there were group leaders from their community on base, but if there are Officers now, interesting. I remember in BMT you could go to s Satanist service, but it was off base.
Nope. Former Sgt. And I know that the porn that WAS available before I enlisted (when I was a dependent) got removed from AAFES in the name of morals. You can look up the 1996 "Military Honor and Decency Act" for that. Mind you, I didn't call it censorship. There might be a nice coffee discussion there (we can even talk about why Playboy is still sold but not Playgirl). I don't call foul for there not being Wiccan or Santanist chaplins (I knew at least one Muslim Chaplin) since there really weren't that many before. I'm not talking about NDAs or things like having a good work ethic.
For me, and this is still off topic of the slightly limited freedoms, it was a minor chaffing that people who didn't like a certain type of music, or train of thought, would show up to a place and complain rather than go elsewhere. They don't agree? Fine. Never once did I picket the Base Church for promoting the idea that I was going to hell and deserved it, or that I found their hymns offensive. If I had, I would have been told "well, just don't go".
Yet there they were, complaining about stuff other people didn't mind or actually enjoyed.
You downplay how much effect your constitutionally guaranteed freedoms are actually curtailed, and it's pretty tolerable, honestly. But was it no less a surprise when you got that first "you can't do that"? I'm not saying it's the end of the world, but it's a difference from the civilian world, that perhaps very minor, should be acknowledged rather than glossed over. Just admit it's there and I'm fine. Everything else can be debated over a beer for fun.
"The next time you or a somebody you know gets injured because they had crap gear, please think of the lawmakers"
Sure that adds quite a lot to your argument. Nah... it adds nothing since it's a strawman.
It's as much of a strawman as your comment about voting before storming a hill, or you missed my point. Maybe we're both bored and like arguing with strangers.
"Why should you be recognized or appreciated for just doing your job?"
Because it's still a job per choice and it's a nasty job that needs to be done. People tend to appreciate that. Just the same that kind of politicians and lawmakers are "recognized" by their jobs too.
You definitely missed or ignored the sarcasm there. Some folks do appreciate the job done, some not so much, and some take it for granted. As for politicians... well. I think most are just expected to be corrupt in favor of their voting populace just enough to get re-elected. I don't know about your country, but the US Military's been wanting new equipment, such as planes, for a long time now. They get forced to buy old stuff they wouldn't have ordered themselves. That's not appreciation.
OK, I accept your arguments. Next time that the need to cut benefits, shrink the force and force pork barrel expenditures over needed upgrades we'll vote.
Fixed that for you. Sounds like you're in the service or at least were. The next time you or a somebody you know gets injured because they had crap gear, please think of the lawmakers who force the Pentagon to buy outdated crap because their constituents rely on making old stuff rather than adapting to the demands of the new markets. The demands on the field do require sacrifice, but that attitude is what allows such disgusting spending requirements to be passed.
If you don't agree with that, then cancel your membership with any of the service related lobby groups. Don't visit your buddy in the hospital. Don't attend a Memorial Day service. Don't console the widows or widowers. Don't expect anybody to show up to your funeral. I mean, it is what you signed up for. Why should you be recognized or appreciated for just doing your job?
I was in the service for my own reasons, not to appease those that would dictate them to me. There are many ways to protect American freedoms, military service is not the sole method available.
I find that kind of attitude insulting to the contributions and sacrifices made by service members and their families. In my mind it's made by people who deliberately make things harder for others just because "it's what they signed up for", but certainly would cry to high heaven about it should karma ever repay the sentiment.
Modest, but still there. Besides, I said it was ironic, not the most important thing in life.
Granted, officers had it worse. They're actually prohibited from making inappropriate comments about the President. If nothing else, they had to refrain from repeating the better jokes about Bill Clinton and the Lewinski incidents.
Just to be an asshat myself, if you have to kill the refugees, kill the officer, but blame the people he had you kill. Life still sucks, but at least now it's slightly poetic.
Not just an asshat, a coward. The prick should have done it himself, but I guess he didn't want the blood on his hands directly. Bad situation for the troop, though. It's easy to say what he should have done, but I don't think a.45 at the cranium helps one think straight in the moment.
Well, yes, but that's true of any law:( What that Commander did is an illegal order and should be court marshaled for it, maybe with the death penalty? I'm hardly a military lawyer. It does show the difference between being moral and being law abiding, though.
The story of Lot is a good one. Biblical proof that a man can be raped by a woman, even when stone blind drunk. I have heard some new translations/interpretations of the bibles have changed things in them, though. Jesus made water in to grape juice, not evil alcoholic wine, for example.
Absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I agree with most of what was said, but when assigning blame there's plenty to go around. I would point out that the only reason some of the chaos erupted in many areas is because the US isn't violent enough compared to Saddam. A google search would pull up that there have been suicide bombers attacking mosques and inflicting NO American/Coalition casualties, only Iraqi.
I personally think that if the people of that country were ready and wanted democracy, they would have rebelled. Of course, civil war isn't that great either, but at least there's a better chance that the populace would embrace the values GWB tried shoving down their throats.
The world could be better in many ways. Half the problem is too many people saying "Do it my way and it'll all be ok". It'd probably be improved if we could all decide on one, no matter how dumb the idea actually was.
Even stateside, unless I understood wrong, you could be denied the bump in allowances that having dependents allows for. That includes housing, food and the like. I'm sure everybody wanted to bring their new spouse into the dorms/barracks. One of my troops was marrying an American from back home, but we were overseas. I never really looked into it as I had no desire to get married and he actually did everything right without needing assistance via the 1st Sgt.
Well, the debate on which moral standard should be upheld is a fun and pointless on here, but I do understand there are practical needs to be met. Not having a "Elect Soandso" sign on your lawn to prevent others from thinking that the military endorses a specific candidate, for example. The only thing I found a bit frustrating about the military system after leaving is I got VERY used to socialized medicine. Just show up, "Doc, I'm sick" and get taken care of. None of this HMO paperwork bullshit.
I found it ironic that as a service member, I had less freedoms available to me. The freedom of speech, needing to ask for permission to get married, etc. Throw in the the base clubs weren't allowed to have "offensive" music (and of course the sensitive types wouldn't have the decency to stay home)./sigh. Buy all the liquor, tobacco and bibles you want, but no porn!
Which video game is it that teaches suicide bombers or their handlers such anti-social activities?
As far as your cousin is concerned, sorry. Maybe he'll smarten up eventually, but it'll probably have to wait until he finds out there's more to life than beer, bullets and bitches. I'd take more issue with the military academy high school than the US military, though. If he doesn't know about LOAC and the Geneva Convention, he may be in for a bit of surprise.
Hopefully he's not so far gone that he doesn't think that, unlike movie bad guys, his opponents can actually think or aim...
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Thus: Beer Goggles leads to lower chance of pregnancy. Perfectly logical.
Don't you have that reversed?
Put like that, they could be renegotiating with a lot of vendors. Getting the cost of Windows down, though, is the logical first step. I doubt anybody would think Dell was going to go so OSS that they'd impact 3rd party software packages. MS, though, has an interest in keeping Windows in the forefront of people's minds.
... that the multi-year OEM contract for Dell and MS is about to come up for renegotiation.
"Why thank you for coming Mr/Mrs Microsoft-Sales-Person. We've had this interesting proposal where we have this free operating system to give out. We only have to pay about half of our prior fees you recieved and we get to customize it so that our product stands out from your other customers... in a way you wouldn't allow before. Tech support will be further outsourced to the internet support as those linux folks do love showing how smart they are (and most decent techs hit google first anyhow). So... what do you have for us today? Besides an unbalanced negotiation not in your favor?".
It'll be interesting to see if Dell sees this through or drops it once MS meets their pricing demands.
They can bribe judges, hire lawyers, buy congress, complain, make commercials and now train dogs. You would think that with all this money they could come up with a working business model other then abusing the legal system.
Strangely enough, the dog training is probably the best ROI they've had. A bit of training, lifetime supply of Alpo and a handler that'll take it home at the end of the day probably worked out cheaper than a week's worth of lawyer fees. Given that they're actually stopping for-profit-piracy, as opposed to just alienating their customers, it seems like they need to look this over and reallocate their funding.
Of all the organizations on the planet, the military should be the first to do something like this. All "real" emails from their servers should get a digital signature that their other servers will use for validations. If a .mil email doesn't have it, then it needs to be dropped immediately.
It certainly won't stop every spam, but it's a good first layer of protection. It will should help with spoofed military email addresses that get harvested. I personally think the emails should be fully encrypted before leaving the servers, but that's more for proper security, not just validation purposes.
Let's just jump to #3. Yes, the US has some of the best toys in the world. It could be better, but then again, it could be worse. Personally, I think most groups don't seriously consider doing a stand up and fight battle with modern military forces anymore. It's just suicidal, so, yeah. I can agree with you on that. Of course, suicidal attackers are harder to defend against, so that's why the tactic is used. Small scale, relatively low tech and harder to predict. While upgraded/new systems are good, I think a lot of time, effort and money needs to be put into curbing recruitment into these organizations. That probably would be of greater benefit to the populations of the world and to the bigger countries.
The quote you gave was good, but you might like "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" too. Or that's at least how the wiki has it quoted.
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FYI: I really do like your stances. 1) Even in the military, there is a time and place for using such methods of arbitrary leadership. When I was a supervisor, I basically told my troops to talk to me and let me know their thoughts on things. When the time came, though, they had to jump when I said jump. So, I guess we agree, it's a matter of the circumstance? 2) I'd agree with you about corruption being out of place in a democracy, but that's an ideal. Granted, corruption is not the same as having different goals or ambitions than what you may have voted for. There are cases of out and out corruptions, such as Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's action. The more cynical of us think his mistake was getting caught. There are murmurings of the mayor of my county being backed by large companies to make decisions which are bad for small businesses. That may just be the folks that didn't agree with her, though. 3) The US Military, and it's equipment, being in bad shape is different than being better than the opponents. Older planes take more time, money and people to maintain. Granted, that's not to say battles are going to be lost soley on that matter, but when it gets down to it, the military buyers would like to decide what their budget goes towards.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,135018,00.html
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123089011
Some links, as requested. I hope they match what we're talking about enough for you.
You really can't prove the negative of a proposition like, "Not (all triangles have three sides)." ?
Sure you can. "Tri" means "3". Thus, if the shape has something other than 3 sides, then, by definition, it's not a triangle.
But a square is a rectangle as it meets all the criteria. There's also the "Which month has 28 days in it?" argument in which every month has 28 days. Every shape, except for circles (I hope), has three sides. Some just have those extra value sides included.
Well, how about this then. Your employer can discipline you for misconduct at work. The military can do so for misconduct done at any time, even if it's not work related (misconduct defined as something against the rules, but not necessarily wrong). The scope of it makes a difference. At least in the civilian world there can be debates regarding whether or not your rights have been violated. That's not always the case under the UCMJ.
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Again, not to say that the differences are so huge or noticeable, but they are there. Personally I think adapting things like parents having to show up to parent-teacher conferences would actually be good for the country, but to compel such an act would undoubtedly be seen as interference of a parent's freedom of choice.
It's kinda cool to hear there are Wiccan chaplins now, though. At most there were group leaders from their community on base, but if there are Officers now, interesting. I remember in BMT you could go to s Satanist service, but it was off base.
Anyways, enjoy
Nope. Former Sgt. And I know that the porn that WAS available before I enlisted (when I was a dependent) got removed from AAFES in the name of morals. You can look up the 1996 "Military Honor and Decency Act" for that. Mind you, I didn't call it censorship. There might be a nice coffee discussion there (we can even talk about why Playboy is still sold but not Playgirl). I don't call foul for there not being Wiccan or Santanist chaplins (I knew at least one Muslim Chaplin) since there really weren't that many before. I'm not talking about NDAs or things like having a good work ethic.
For me, and this is still off topic of the slightly limited freedoms, it was a minor chaffing that people who didn't like a certain type of music, or train of thought, would show up to a place and complain rather than go elsewhere. They don't agree? Fine. Never once did I picket the Base Church for promoting the idea that I was going to hell and deserved it, or that I found their hymns offensive. If I had, I would have been told "well, just don't go".
Yet there they were, complaining about stuff other people didn't mind or actually enjoyed.
You downplay how much effect your constitutionally guaranteed freedoms are actually curtailed, and it's pretty tolerable, honestly. But was it no less a surprise when you got that first "you can't do that"? I'm not saying it's the end of the world, but it's a difference from the civilian world, that perhaps very minor, should be acknowledged rather than glossed over. Just admit it's there and I'm fine. Everything else can be debated over a beer for fun.
"The next time you or a somebody you know gets injured because they had crap gear, please think of the lawmakers"
Sure that adds quite a lot to your argument. Nah... it adds nothing since it's a strawman.
It's as much of a strawman as your comment about voting before storming a hill, or you missed my point. Maybe we're both bored and like arguing with strangers.
"Why should you be recognized or appreciated for just doing your job?"
Because it's still a job per choice and it's a nasty job that needs to be done. People tend to appreciate that. Just the same that kind of politicians and lawmakers are "recognized" by their jobs too.
You definitely missed or ignored the sarcasm there. Some folks do appreciate the job done, some not so much, and some take it for granted. As for politicians... well. I think most are just expected to be corrupt in favor of their voting populace just enough to get re-elected. I don't know about your country, but the US Military's been wanting new equipment, such as planes, for a long time now. They get forced to buy old stuff they wouldn't have ordered themselves. That's not appreciation.
"I find that kind of attitude insulting"
OK, I accept your arguments. Next time that the need to cut benefits, shrink the force and force pork barrel expenditures over needed upgrades we'll vote.
Fixed that for you. Sounds like you're in the service or at least were. The next time you or a somebody you know gets injured because they had crap gear, please think of the lawmakers who force the Pentagon to buy outdated crap because their constituents rely on making old stuff rather than adapting to the demands of the new markets. The demands on the field do require sacrifice, but that attitude is what allows such disgusting spending requirements to be passed.
If you don't agree with that, then cancel your membership with any of the service related lobby groups. Don't visit your buddy in the hospital. Don't attend a Memorial Day service. Don't console the widows or widowers. Don't expect anybody to show up to your funeral. I mean, it is what you signed up for. Why should you be recognized or appreciated for just doing your job?
I was in the service for my own reasons, not to appease those that would dictate them to me. There are many ways to protect American freedoms, military service is not the sole method available.
I find that kind of attitude insulting to the contributions and sacrifices made by service members and their families. In my mind it's made by people who deliberately make things harder for others just because "it's what they signed up for", but certainly would cry to high heaven about it should karma ever repay the sentiment.
:D
Modest, but still there. Besides, I said it was ironic, not the most important thing in life.
Granted, officers had it worse. They're actually prohibited from making inappropriate comments about the President. If nothing else, they had to refrain from repeating the better jokes about Bill Clinton and the Lewinski incidents.
Just to be an asshat myself, if you have to kill the refugees, kill the officer, but blame the people he had you kill. Life still sucks, but at least now it's slightly poetic.
Not just an asshat, a coward. The prick should have done it himself, but I guess he didn't want the blood on his hands directly. Bad situation for the troop, though. It's easy to say what he should have done, but I don't think a .45 at the cranium helps one think straight in the moment.
Well, yes, but that's true of any law :( What that Commander did is an illegal order and should be court marshaled for it, maybe with the death penalty? I'm hardly a military lawyer. It does show the difference between being moral and being law abiding, though.
The story of Lot is a good one. Biblical proof that a man can be raped by a woman, even when stone blind drunk. I have heard some new translations/interpretations of the bibles have changed things in them, though. Jesus made water in to grape juice, not evil alcoholic wine, for example.
Absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I agree with most of what was said, but when assigning blame there's plenty to go around. I would point out that the only reason some of the chaos erupted in many areas is because the US isn't violent enough compared to Saddam. A google search would pull up that there have been suicide bombers attacking mosques and inflicting NO American/Coalition casualties, only Iraqi.
I personally think that if the people of that country were ready and wanted democracy, they would have rebelled. Of course, civil war isn't that great either, but at least there's a better chance that the populace would embrace the values GWB tried shoving down their throats.
The world could be better in many ways. Half the problem is too many people saying "Do it my way and it'll all be ok". It'd probably be improved if we could all decide on one, no matter how dumb the idea actually was.
Even stateside, unless I understood wrong, you could be denied the bump in allowances that having dependents allows for. That includes housing, food and the like. I'm sure everybody wanted to bring their new spouse into the dorms/barracks. One of my troops was marrying an American from back home, but we were overseas. I never really looked into it as I had no desire to get married and he actually did everything right without needing assistance via the 1st Sgt.
Well, the debate on which moral standard should be upheld is a fun and pointless on here, but I do understand there are practical needs to be met. Not having a "Elect Soandso" sign on your lawn to prevent others from thinking that the military endorses a specific candidate, for example. The only thing I found a bit frustrating about the military system after leaving is I got VERY used to socialized medicine. Just show up, "Doc, I'm sick" and get taken care of. None of this HMO paperwork bullshit.
:P
I hate paperwork
I found it ironic that as a service member, I had less freedoms available to me. The freedom of speech, needing to ask for permission to get married, etc. Throw in the the base clubs weren't allowed to have "offensive" music (and of course the sensitive types wouldn't have the decency to stay home). /sigh. Buy all the liquor, tobacco and bibles you want, but no porn!
Which video game is it that teaches suicide bombers or their handlers such anti-social activities?
As far as your cousin is concerned, sorry. Maybe he'll smarten up eventually, but it'll probably have to wait until he finds out there's more to life than beer, bullets and bitches. I'd take more issue with the military academy high school than the US military, though. If he doesn't know about LOAC and the Geneva Convention, he may be in for a bit of surprise.
Hopefully he's not so far gone that he doesn't think that, unlike movie bad guys, his opponents can actually think or aim...