Call me picky if you like but for me this immediately fails "the living room test"
Why? Because of all those crappy little Intel/Microsoft/Godknowswho stickers on the front.
I know it's small thing but if I want something in my AV system or under my telly at home I want it to look, you know, like a piece of AV kit and not some grey slab of plastic with funny little colourful stickers on the front.
Not only did you not RTFA, you didnt even LATFP (look at the f*cking pictures)!
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Unless there is a radical change in monitor design (or some other method), the paperless office will never work for me.
Im quite the enviromentalist and Im all for the paperless office in theory, but if Im proof reading, making changes to documents, reading a manual etc. etc. I just have to have it printed out and infront of me. It never looks the same on screen as printed out, and my eyes tend to go "snow blind" after staring at a screen of text after a while.
Of course people can disagree, and indeed they should, healthy debate never got anywhere without it;-)
But, to take you up on one issue, Im speaking from example about my dad. His machine was built by myself, and was NOT a preinstalled windows box. But, my dad did install windows XP on it himself without any hitches at all (funny, considering how he usually struggles to even programme the VCR recorder!), so cudos to him.
But, I know that Ive experienced hiccups when trying to install Linux, so I'd bet next months wage slip that my dad would be on the phone to me within 5 minutes if he tried a Linux install.
The other points you make are very valid, maybe I am being sounding trollish, and of course I wouldnt expect EVERY piece of hardware to be recognised by a Linux install (relatively small userbase still means catch 22 for drivers eh?!) but Ive hit too many stumbling blocks whilst trying to setup Linux to make me a convert, yet anyway;)
One final point, my original post has now been modded offtopic. Well maybe Im wrong, but if we are considering the usability of KDE/Linux over Windows, surely (well in my books anyway) if Im struggling to get the damned thing configured so I can use it then that scores -1 in usability ?!?
Thank you:) If I had mod points I'd throw em all at you!
The usual response I get from anyone Linux related when I tell them of my woes is often "Haha, Windoze sucks, get Linux now!" or "You loser, cant even setup Linux, how lame!"
I think you have hit the nail on the head there for my case. Im fiddling with computers all day at work as a technician, and when I get home, I barely use mine, except for a bit of web surfing, email, playing the odd game, etc. etc. The last things I can be bothered to do are: a) Buy new hardware just to support Linux c) Spend hours searching for a compatible Linux driver for my obscure hardware.
My computer works for me, not the other way around. And as I said before, that includes Windows working for me. Maybe one day I'll move over to Linux, indeed I'd like to and free up my computer from the corporate Microsoft patching hell that XP has become. But not I dont think, just for now.
Well thats the sort of response I was hoping I wouldnt get.
If Linux is going to gain the ground in the OS market place, more importantly the HOME market place, the questions that I asked (albeit maybe Slashdot is not the place to ever say a word agains Linux lest I be modded and flamed to a firey death) shouldnt have to be asked.
Imagine this, Ive learnt to love Linux, so I tell my dad to try the switch (he's only ever used Windows and wouldnt know how to tinker with an OS if his life depended on it).
Me:"Dad, try out Linux, its faster, more stable, not full of spyware and Im sure you'll prefer it over Windows. Oh, and dad, its free too!"
Dad:"Hey son, Ive looked at getting this Linux, which one do I choose"
Me:"Just pick one at random!"
Dad:"Erm, Ok, I chose RedHat, it installed, I chose KDE (what is that by the way son?), but it doesnt recognize my old graphics card, printer or modem, Windows did, whats going on?"
Dad:"Oh, and there was a great piece of software I wanted to use, but it says I need Gnome now, how to I get back to Gnome from KDE then?"
Me:"Ermm..."
*clank* *bang* *whirr* - sound of redhat CD's going in the bin and Windows being reinstalled.
Im an IT Technician, and Im certainly not Microshaft biggot, but my experiences of Linux have only been difficult to say the least.
Flame me if you will and bring out the troll beating sticks, but I would love to use Linux, I love the free software and open source ethos, hell, apart from Windows XP itself, all of my software is freeware/open source/whatever (Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc. etc.) but I have tried, and failed.
I want an OS that works, out of the box, with MY system. Windows does this for me. Linux (so far as I have tried) does not.
Suse, RedHat, Debian, Slackware, FreeBSD, Gnoppix??? Which one, and why should I use it? Ive seen enough flame wars out there to simply confuse me for life.
KDE or Gnome? I dont know?! Bluecurve? What the hell?
I tried RedHat on a recommendation. After installation, did it work with my ADSL modem? No. Did Windows XP work with it, yes. And at the moment, its little things like that that make the choice clear cut for me.
Ok, Im not going to go on and make myself look like a troll. As Ive said, Id love to use Linux, but Im all for an easy life, and my computer is a tool that I use to get my work done, and as such I want to switch it on and it just plain work. Currently only Windows is doing this for me.
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I think you've just described the decades old concept of The Wheel Of Reincarnation
But his parrot is dead you insensitive clod!
Country you say? Yee ha!
You certainly can in England, the double jeopardy rule was dropped quite a few years ago now.
So, don't buy the crappy and buggy ones then.
Problem solved.
IPHONE, BITCH!
Last night I dreamt I'd written Lord of the Rings, when I woke up it turns out that I'd just been Tolkien in my sleep.
Call me picky if you like but for me this immediately fails "the living room test"
Why? Because of all those crappy little Intel/Microsoft/Godknowswho stickers on the front.
I know it's small thing but if I want something in my AV system or under my telly at home I want it to look, you know, like a piece of AV kit and not some grey slab of plastic with funny little colourful stickers on the front.
I don't know, maybe it's just me.
*shrugs*
pff, damned typo's due to keyboard covered in cola...
ahhrggghhh! my fingers! they are eating my fingers!
I for one welcome out sugar eating overlords.
My god! Slashdotters are getting worse!
Not only did you not RTFA, you didnt even LATFP (look at the f*cking pictures)!
Unless there is a radical change in monitor design (or some other method), the paperless office will never work for me.
Im quite the enviromentalist and Im all for the paperless office in theory, but if Im proof reading, making changes to documents, reading a manual etc. etc. I just have to have it printed out and infront of me. It never looks the same on screen as printed out, and my eyes tend to go "snow blind" after staring at a screen of text after a while.
I hear Hogwarts will be selling these once the last book is finished and they run out of money.
Get around the old piano for a good old knees up, just like we did during the Blitz...
All together now! "Knees up Mother Brown!... My old mans a dustman!" etc... etc...
If Uri gets involved there will be plenty of claims on damanged cutlery.
Of course people can disagree, and indeed they should, healthy debate never got anywhere without it ;-)
;)
But, to take you up on one issue, Im speaking from example about my dad. His machine was built by myself, and was NOT a preinstalled windows box. But, my dad did install windows XP on it himself without any hitches at all (funny, considering how he usually struggles to even programme the VCR recorder!), so cudos to him.
But, I know that Ive experienced hiccups when trying to install Linux, so I'd bet next months wage slip that my dad would be on the phone to me within 5 minutes if he tried a Linux install.
The other points you make are very valid, maybe I am being sounding trollish, and of course I wouldnt expect EVERY piece of hardware to be recognised by a Linux install (relatively small userbase still means catch 22 for drivers eh?!) but Ive hit too many stumbling blocks whilst trying to setup Linux to make me a convert, yet anyway
One final point, my original post has now been modded offtopic. Well maybe Im wrong, but if we are considering the usability of KDE/Linux over Windows, surely (well in my books anyway) if Im struggling to get the damned thing configured so I can use it then that scores -1 in usability ?!?
Thank you :) If I had mod points I'd throw em all at you!
The usual response I get from anyone Linux related when I tell them of my woes is often "Haha, Windoze sucks, get Linux now!" or "You loser, cant even setup Linux, how lame!"
I think you have hit the nail on the head there for my case. Im fiddling with computers all day at work as a technician, and when I get home, I barely use mine, except for a bit of web surfing, email, playing the odd game, etc. etc. The last things I can be bothered to do are:
a) Buy new hardware just to support Linux
c) Spend hours searching for a compatible Linux driver for my obscure hardware.
My computer works for me, not the other way around. And as I said before, that includes Windows working for me. Maybe one day I'll move over to Linux, indeed I'd like to and free up my computer from the corporate Microsoft patching hell that XP has become. But not I dont think, just for now.
Well thats the sort of response I was hoping I wouldnt get. If Linux is going to gain the ground in the OS market place, more importantly the HOME market place, the questions that I asked (albeit maybe Slashdot is not the place to ever say a word agains Linux lest I be modded and flamed to a firey death) shouldnt have to be asked. Imagine this, Ive learnt to love Linux, so I tell my dad to try the switch (he's only ever used Windows and wouldnt know how to tinker with an OS if his life depended on it). Me:"Dad, try out Linux, its faster, more stable, not full of spyware and Im sure you'll prefer it over Windows. Oh, and dad, its free too!" Dad:"Hey son, Ive looked at getting this Linux, which one do I choose" Me:"Just pick one at random!" Dad:"Erm, Ok, I chose RedHat, it installed, I chose KDE (what is that by the way son?), but it doesnt recognize my old graphics card, printer or modem, Windows did, whats going on?" Dad:"Oh, and there was a great piece of software I wanted to use, but it says I need Gnome now, how to I get back to Gnome from KDE then?" Me:"Ermm..." *clank* *bang* *whirr* - sound of redhat CD's going in the bin and Windows being reinstalled.
Im an IT Technician, and Im certainly not Microshaft biggot, but my experiences of Linux have only been difficult to say the least.
Flame me if you will and bring out the troll beating sticks, but I would love to use Linux, I love the free software and open source ethos, hell, apart from Windows XP itself, all of my software is freeware/open source/whatever (Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc. etc.) but I have tried, and failed.
I want an OS that works, out of the box, with MY system. Windows does this for me. Linux (so far as I have tried) does not.
Suse, RedHat, Debian, Slackware, FreeBSD, Gnoppix??? Which one, and why should I use it? Ive seen enough flame wars out there to simply confuse me for life.
KDE or Gnome? I dont know?! Bluecurve? What the hell?
I tried RedHat on a recommendation. After installation, did it work with my ADSL modem? No. Did Windows XP work with it, yes. And at the moment, its little things like that that make the choice clear cut for me.
Ok, Im not going to go on and make myself look like a troll. As Ive said, Id love to use Linux, but Im all for an easy life, and my computer is a tool that I use to get my work done, and as such I want to switch it on and it just plain work. Currently only Windows is doing this for me.