It's not about what you think. It's about what it is. When Netscape came into existence, libwww was everything. And they had to comply. You are not sure Mosaic was compliant? Mosaic was nothing but a framework over libwww, just as lynx and others. libwww was the rendering engine, and it was written BY Berners-Lee, Off course it was standards compliant.
Dude, libwww was written by Berners-lee in 1992. It was used by all browsers at the time. When Netscape came into the market, it was standards compliant and compatible with libwww. After the hoards of windows and AOL users started to use the web with their explorers and their netscapes, the whole web was libwww, which was standards compliant, free and multiplatform.
After IE broke every single standard, and added every single proprietary extension imaginable, causing 50% of the web to be incompatible with Netscape, they had to keep up with m$ both in terms of frequent releases and in terms of proprietary extensions. They just tried to survive, and together, they drove the web into a dark age.
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Remember the Slackware case and the version number inflation on commercial distributions?
Slackware had to inflate 4 major version numbers just to keep up with all the people saying "Oh, you use Linux 3? I use Linux 6!" just because they had redhat 6 and redhat incremented their version number all the time.
Think about wine. After more than a decade trying to reach a stable version, they said fuck it, let's release 1.0, and suddenly people thought wine was ready. It's not, and it'll never be. And it's still 1.0. On the other hand, Phoenix (later Firebird, then Firefox) was completely usable and stable way before it reached 0.5.
Version numbers are only meaningful within a given software where you know their release cycle. You can't compare.
It makes you wonder about all those promises that Microsoft has made to GNOME, Mono, and Linux to not sue. I don't buy any olive branch that Microsoft bares. Microsoft is evil, they will do everything to make it look like they want standards and interoperability, and then do everything in their power to make their product the only product. Seriously, anybody who believes any offer of friendship from MS is seriously gullible.
Agreed. I'm deeply worried about the future of Gnome. Specially since they had that stupid fight with the FSF. I spoke with Richard about it, and told him that it was important to keep Gnome close, since it was in danger. Here's what he had to say: (This is an extract from a very long email exchange)
Lots of fellow hackers and developers condemn the ideals of free software. That has been true for 20 years or more. I wish everyone agreed with the free software movement, but they don't. We can't convert them. We can refuse to let them convert us.
We must, above all, refuse to be a coward like Obama who will make whatever concession is necessary to avoid the appearance of short-term defeat. That road leads to total failure.
So, we are between the FSF (Who, at the time, is more important than ever, but still acts like a zealot and drives people away) and Microsoft (That, as usual, acts like your average pedophile, lurking in kids with candy, and then raping them).
Many projects need a parent organization that protects them and helps them organize. Microsoft and their army of corporate trolls and other puppets is a very dangerous choice.
But maybe the author is right, and evolving betas do fail. Like GMail, Firefox, Chrome, GNU/Linux, they were all public evolving betas, and they all failed. Ah, wait, they didn't They are very successful, and keep gaining market-share every day.
Off course, other software that wasn't ever in public beta state, like Windows, Oracle, Photoshop, was successful. Ah, wait, they were Public betas too, just the companies behind them pretended they weren't. And they failed and succeeded at the same rate as the other more honest approaches.
All software evolves, and all software goes through a very long Beta period. Changing the label doesn't really change anything.
No, you are supposed to use one of the many SDR solutions that have good GNU/Linux support, including many that even release their source code, and are compatible with other Free Software.
i dont love XP but it does the job where linux was failing at it.
NO.
GNU/Linux isn't failing. It's precisely because people like is are willing to just jump and use whatever OS certain hardware/software requires that those providers won't develop their software for other platforms. Hiring windows developers is cheaper. Porting is more expensive. The fact that you and lots of other people are willing to jump boats whenever your privative software overlords tell you to do so is what allows this companies to continue not giving a fuck about anything but microsoft.
Many previous posts said it was unrealistic to expect microsoft to implement proper support in Office 2010. I think what is unrealistic is expecting microsoft to implement any kind of standards.
The only time they will implement anything that is standards compliant is when they have no choice. Think about IE. It took 15 years to get them to implement standards in IE (In IE9) and they only did so because Mozilla, Apple, Opera and Google forced them. Only after they lost significant marketshare against this companies that they implemented HTML5. And, remember, embrace, extend, extinguish. IE9 is only phase1 (Embrace). In a year or so, we'll see IE9 marketshare grow, and the proprietary extensions will start rolling. In a few years, It'll be 2001 all over again. IE15 will be as incompatible as IE6 was.
This is microsoft. That's what they do. They won't change. They are the most hostile company I've ever seen. They blatantly attack the rest of the industry, and as long as people put up with it and buy their products, they have no reason to change their tactics. They've worked well for them for almost 3 decades.
The cheaper Netbooks run on Atoms 230. Any decent netbook runs either Atom 330 or Atom 510.
I use exactly that processor for one of the products I develop (a video surveillance system).
The Atom 330 has 2 Cores at 1.6Ghz, and 2 threads each core. That's 4 motherfucking penguins on my boot.
I run a full Ubuntu install in there, complete with X11 + Compiz (using the onboard Intel GMA). That machine has a PCI card capable of capturing 8 analog video signals at 720x576. The machine, that runs Compiz in full glory, not only shows this 8 video streams at full resolution, it also does motion detection, shape analysis and other feature detection, face recognition on up to 4 channels, and all of this while running 16 ffmpeg processes creating both MJPEG and MPEG4 video for each channel. It also runs a full GNOME desktop and a browser. It also runs apache and serves many concurrent clients.
The load average never goes above 0.6, and the processor usage for all 4 virtual cores is at all times below 60%.
Now, tell me how the cheap ARM processor on the iPad is faster than that?
It's all in the software. With the right software, that netbook can be way more responsive than the iPad.
1) - If you use explorer, you are using windows. The chances of someone exploiting your browser and getting access to all your files is 90%
- You can use Chrome in Mac or GNU/Linux. Both Chrome and your OS keep your data secure
2) - I have the source code for Chrome (Chromium) and I can study it, make sure it's safe, or change whatever I want. Also, I know the community has reviewed it, and the company is not trying to hid anything behind a binary
- I don't have the source of explorer, and microsoft has a huge history of phoning home and spying on users
3 - Chrome is standards compliant, so there's no vendor tie-in. If I find something I don't like, I can move on to another browser
- Explorer is platform specific, and non compliant with standards. That means, if I develop anything for it, it'll probably be incompatible with other browsers and moving away will be hard.
Sorry microsoft, Google published the source code for their browser, it's well developed, multi-platform, they'll take my patches and if they are good implement them on their source, and they are open and transparent about everything the browser does. They are doing all the right things, and I just love this browser.
That's all it is. This guy is a crackpot. He came up with a "theory" dressed up in science, that is nothing but wild speculation. Actually, it's not even speculation. It's Religion. He just decided the earth is a sentient being, without providing any kind of evidence for this ridiculous claim.
He also makes ridiculously close predictions for the "end of the world" and other unscientific predictions.
People need to get this concept through their thick skulls:
Being offended is healthy, normal, and a positive feeling.
Many things will offend you. Deal with it.
The second thing they need to understand is:
The internet is a free place. ANYTHING GOES. There are NO crimes on the internet. If the actions on the internet extend to real life actions, then punish those actions, but you can't control the internet. Example: If some guy sends the blueprints for a bomb over the internet to another guy, and this second guy builds the bomb and deploys it, the crime is setting up a fucking bomb, not sending the blueprints over the web.
Every single other aspect of life is already controlled by some TLA agency. What I do in my own house is my own business. What I say can't be censored. What I do on the internet can't be controlled, censored or restricted in any way.
You have to understand the mindset behind this kind of people.
They use a privative SQL server, but that's not it. They also use a privative OS, CMS, ERP, etc,etc.
You'll find people that use either mostly Free Software, or mostly privative software. 50% / 50% or other rational "whatever fits" scenarios are hard to come by. People either believe that Free Software is a better alternative, or they believe that having a big soulless corporation behind their software means they'll get better software.
Also, many companies have managers and techies that know nothing but windows, ASP and MsSQL and are scared of changing anything.
People usually complain about Free Software zealots using nothing but GPLed software, but there are privative software zealots out there too, and they don't analyze their options either, they just compulsively buy the most expensive option from $VENDOR.
RALEIGH, N.C. — Raleigh City Councilman Bonner Gaylord
Ok, please sit down and think about it. This guy's name is BONNER GAYLORD.
He's just trying to get back at his parents, by giving his kids horrible names. Bonner Gaylord.//Goes to check The Onion, to make sure the story wasn't pulled from there
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It's not about what you think. It's about what it is. When Netscape came into existence, libwww was everything. And they had to comply. You are not sure Mosaic was compliant? Mosaic was nothing but a framework over libwww, just as lynx and others. libwww was the rendering engine, and it was written BY Berners-Lee, Off course it was standards compliant.
Dude, libwww was written by Berners-lee in 1992. It was used by all browsers at the time. When Netscape came into the market, it was standards compliant and compatible with libwww. After the hoards of windows and AOL users started to use the web with their explorers and their netscapes, the whole web was libwww, which was standards compliant, free and multiplatform.
After IE broke every single standard, and added every single proprietary extension imaginable, causing 50% of the web to be incompatible with Netscape, they had to keep up with m$ both in terms of frequent releases and in terms of proprietary extensions. They just tried to survive, and together, they drove the web into a dark age.
Are you crazy?
The first HTML standard was created in 1989. Then, in 1994, the w3c was founded, as well as HTML 2.0.
Post's author speaks more than 3 languages? Check.
English is author's 3rd language? Check.
Reply by a grammar Nazi? Check.
Reply gets moded down into -1 realm? Soon.
What you are missing is WHY ie was the "only" choice back then:
It was because it had already destroyed all the other alternatives.
Remember the Slackware case and the version number inflation on commercial distributions?
Slackware had to inflate 4 major version numbers just to keep up with all the people saying "Oh, you use Linux 3? I use Linux 6!" just because they had redhat 6 and redhat incremented their version number all the time.
Think about wine. After more than a decade trying to reach a stable version, they said fuck it, let's release 1.0, and suddenly people thought wine was ready. It's not, and it'll never be. And it's still 1.0. On the other hand, Phoenix (later Firebird, then Firefox) was completely usable and stable way before it reached 0.5.
Version numbers are only meaningful within a given software where you know their release cycle. You can't compare.
It makes you wonder about all those promises that Microsoft has made to GNOME, Mono, and Linux to not sue. I don't buy any olive branch that Microsoft bares. Microsoft is evil, they will do everything to make it look like they want standards and interoperability, and then do everything in their power to make their product the only product. Seriously, anybody who believes any offer of friendship from MS is seriously gullible.
Agreed. I'm deeply worried about the future of Gnome. Specially since they had that stupid fight with the FSF. I spoke with Richard about it, and told him that it was important to keep Gnome close, since it was in danger. Here's what he had to say: (This is an extract from a very long email exchange)
Lots of fellow hackers and developers condemn the ideals of free
software. That has been true for 20 years or more. I wish
everyone agreed with the free software movement, but they don't.
We can't convert them. We can refuse to let them convert us.
We must, above all, refuse to be a coward like Obama who will make
whatever concession is necessary to avoid the appearance of short-term
defeat. That road leads to total failure.
So, we are between the FSF (Who, at the time, is more important than ever, but still acts like a zealot and drives people away) and Microsoft (That, as usual, acts like your average pedophile, lurking in kids with candy, and then raping them).
Many projects need a parent organization that protects them and helps them organize. Microsoft and their army of corporate trolls and other puppets is a very dangerous choice.
But some companies pretend they are not.
But maybe the author is right, and evolving betas do fail. Like GMail, Firefox, Chrome, GNU/Linux, they were all public evolving betas, and they all failed. Ah, wait, they didn't They are very successful, and keep gaining market-share every day.
Off course, other software that wasn't ever in public beta state, like Windows, Oracle, Photoshop, was successful. Ah, wait, they were Public betas too, just the companies behind them pretended they weren't. And they failed and succeeded at the same rate as the other more honest approaches.
All software evolves, and all software goes through a very long Beta period. Changing the label doesn't really change anything.
You have no understanding of the browser wars.
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_war
No, you are supposed to use one of the many SDR solutions that have good GNU/Linux support, including many that even release their source code, and are compatible with other Free Software.
i dont love XP but it does the job where linux was failing at it.
NO.
GNU/Linux isn't failing. It's precisely because people like is are willing to just jump and use whatever OS certain hardware/software requires that those providers won't develop their software for other platforms. Hiring windows developers is cheaper. Porting is more expensive. The fact that you and lots of other people are willing to jump boats whenever your privative software overlords tell you to do so is what allows this companies to continue not giving a fuck about anything but microsoft.
GNU/Linux didn't fail. YOU failed.
Many previous posts said it was unrealistic to expect microsoft to implement proper support in Office 2010. I think what is unrealistic is expecting microsoft to implement any kind of standards.
The only time they will implement anything that is standards compliant is when they have no choice. Think about IE. It took 15 years to get them to implement standards in IE (In IE9) and they only did so because Mozilla, Apple, Opera and Google forced them. Only after they lost significant marketshare against this companies that they implemented HTML5. And, remember, embrace, extend, extinguish. IE9 is only phase1 (Embrace). In a year or so, we'll see IE9 marketshare grow, and the proprietary extensions will start rolling. In a few years, It'll be 2001 all over again. IE15 will be as incompatible as IE6 was.
This is microsoft. That's what they do. They won't change. They are the most hostile company I've ever seen. They blatantly attack the rest of the industry, and as long as people put up with it and buy their products, they have no reason to change their tactics. They've worked well for them for almost 3 decades.
More responsive?
Atoms are misunderstood and underrated.
The cheaper Netbooks run on Atoms 230. Any decent netbook runs either Atom 330 or Atom 510.
I use exactly that processor for one of the products I develop (a video surveillance system).
The Atom 330 has 2 Cores at 1.6Ghz, and 2 threads each core. That's 4 motherfucking penguins on my boot.
I run a full Ubuntu install in there, complete with X11 + Compiz (using the onboard Intel GMA). That machine has a PCI card capable of capturing 8 analog video signals at 720x576. The machine, that runs Compiz in full glory, not only shows this 8 video streams at full resolution, it also does motion detection, shape analysis and other feature detection, face recognition on up to 4 channels, and all of this while running 16 ffmpeg processes creating both MJPEG and MPEG4 video for each channel. It also runs a full GNOME desktop and a browser. It also runs apache and serves many concurrent clients.
The load average never goes above 0.6, and the processor usage for all 4 virtual cores is at all times below 60%.
Now, tell me how the cheap ARM processor on the iPad is faster than that?
It's all in the software. With the right software, that netbook can be way more responsive than the iPad.
try wget http://google.com/
it creates and iframe and loads the URL in there.
Most of the fun comes finding the available commands in the source code.
There, FTFY
guest@xkcd:/$ cheat
*** FREE SHIPPING ENABLED ***
Awesome. So fucking awesome.
guest@xkcd:/$ sudo rm -rf /
guest@xkcd:/$ ls
Unrecognized command. Type "help" for assistance.
What a lame attempt, microsoft ...
1) - If you use explorer, you are using windows. The chances of someone exploiting your browser and getting access to all your files is 90%
- You can use Chrome in Mac or GNU/Linux. Both Chrome and your OS keep your data secure
2) - I have the source code for Chrome (Chromium) and I can study it, make sure it's safe, or change whatever I want. Also, I know the community has reviewed it, and the company is not trying to hid anything behind a binary
- I don't have the source of explorer, and microsoft has a huge history of phoning home and spying on users
3 - Chrome is standards compliant, so there's no vendor tie-in. If I find something I don't like, I can move on to another browser
- Explorer is platform specific, and non compliant with standards. That means, if I develop anything for it, it'll probably be incompatible with other browsers and moving away will be hard.
Sorry microsoft, Google published the source code for their browser, it's well developed, multi-platform, they'll take my patches and if they are good implement them on their source, and they are open and transparent about everything the browser does. They are doing all the right things, and I just love this browser.
"The planet is going nowhere. We are going!. We are going away. Pack your shit folks!, we are going away!"
George Carlin: Best. Person. Ever.
That's all it is. This guy is a crackpot. He came up with a "theory" dressed up in science, that is nothing but wild speculation. Actually, it's not even speculation. It's Religion. He just decided the earth is a sentient being, without providing any kind of evidence for this ridiculous claim.
He also makes ridiculously close predictions for the "end of the world" and other unscientific predictions.
Now we know he's also against democracy.
What a nice guy.
Please, go ahead and try to measure him here http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html. My crackpot-o-meter went off-scale after trying to measure his theories.
You are right. Improve their life with Euthanasia.
Euthanasia.
People need to get this concept through their thick skulls:
Being offended is healthy, normal, and a positive feeling.
Many things will offend you. Deal with it.
The second thing they need to understand is:
The internet is a free place. ANYTHING GOES. There are NO crimes on the internet. If the actions on the internet extend to real life actions, then punish those actions, but you can't control the internet. Example: If some guy sends the blueprints for a bomb over the internet to another guy, and this second guy builds the bomb and deploys it, the crime is setting up a fucking bomb, not sending the blueprints over the web.
Every single other aspect of life is already controlled by some TLA agency. What I do in my own house is my own business. What I say can't be censored. What I do on the internet can't be controlled, censored or restricted in any way.
You have to understand the mindset behind this kind of people.
They use a privative SQL server, but that's not it. They also use a privative OS, CMS, ERP, etc,etc.
You'll find people that use either mostly Free Software, or mostly privative software. 50% / 50% or other rational "whatever fits" scenarios are hard to come by. People either believe that Free Software is a better alternative, or they believe that having a big soulless corporation behind their software means they'll get better software.
Also, many companies have managers and techies that know nothing but windows, ASP and MsSQL and are scared of changing anything.
People usually complain about Free Software zealots using nothing but GPLed software, but there are privative software zealots out there too, and they don't analyze their options either, they just compulsively buy the most expensive option from $VENDOR.
FTFA:
RALEIGH, N.C. — Raleigh City Councilman Bonner Gaylord
Ok, please sit down and think about it. This guy's name is BONNER GAYLORD.
He's just trying to get back at his parents, by giving his kids horrible names. Bonner Gaylord. //Goes to check The Onion, to make sure the story wasn't pulled from there
Maybe he's internet-starved. You would sell your mother and all your future generations for some sweet bandwidth ;)