If they want to have a team of professionals looking at certain ideas, trying to develop something new, they have to pay for a lab, offices, expensive buys that the scientifics will ask for their lab, the rather high salaries they would have to pay to the scientists, plus the salaries of their assistans, AND, when someone has a great idea, and it's put into practice, they will have to give him a grant WAY, WAY, BIGER than the one they are offering now. This way, they don't spend a cent, and have thousands of people working for free, and each of those persons are paying their own infrastructure. If someone has a good idea, they will just give him a small payment (the payment is small considering what they usually spend in research done in more conventional ways).
Also, there is the press and public image. The NASA needs more money. And they current public image is not really very good. In order to get more money from the government, they need to improve their public image, and they need to get people interested in space exploration./.ers are crazy for space exploration, but most people out there, after all the circus arround the suposed moon trip, and the government constantly telling them that the only important thing they should be spending money in is in paying the fucking army to "protect" them from "terrorists", people just don't trust the NASA, they think that the NASA is a waste of tax dollars, and are not really exited about space exploration at all. This is also a way to try to change that, and get people willing to open their wallets again like they did in the 60s.
I absolutely agree with what you are saying, but let me explain my point of view:
When there are good reasons NOT to do something, and those reasons are evident, and then someone goes on and do it anyway, you can't expect that person to understand that reasons, invariably they will either just neglect those reasons, aknowledge them but ignore them, or just create good excuses. After a few generations, people will beleive the lies, and those reasons will be just impossible for them to understand.
Many nations over time have tried to take over the world. They all received the same advice: "If you are going to opress people, and make a profit out of them, you either kill them all, or you prepare for revolution, because it will happend, and blood will cover the streets". Many understood this, and, while they still conquered, they knew that they shouldn't mess with certain stuff, and they knew when to retire (for example, the UK). The USA didn't care. They think they can rule the world, dominate other nations, get in the middle of anything, try to be the police of the world, and they think nobody would do anything about it. When someone does something about it, they blame everyone else, and try to get the rest of the world to help them.
Yes, they rule the world now, but they won't rule the world forever. Every nation in the world has something against them, because they have in one situation of another fucked every other nation in the world, and even groups inside their country, so, when they finaly loose their power, nobody will be there to help them, and they will have a rather large list of people waiting for revenge.
Look, certain things should be done as good as possible BECAUSE that's good to human kind. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK if someone in your stupid capitalist system can profit from it or not.
People should recieve the best education possible. People should do their work the best they can. Software should be as good as it can get. And this are just examples, the rule is: The human race have had lots of political, economical and social systems, but the objective all the time is to IMPROVE our life quality, to learn, to be better as a society. If your stupid capitalist system gets in the middle of that, FUCK CAPITALISM.
Yes, the people WILL write bad apps, IT WAS A FUCKING HOSTING COMPANY, you can't control what people is going to upload. Let me put it this way:
The Unix case:
- People uploads shitty stuff
- The system is robust and can still handle it.
- The system gives you the tools required to control what your users can and can't do
- Things just works.
The Windows case:
- People uploads shitty stuff
- The system is shitty and falls under the load
- The system doesn't give you any kind of tools to control what your users do, and the 3rd party tools available are expensive and cause even more problems
- Things just DOENS'T work ok, and you have to be keeping an eye constantly on the fucking server, to do manually what the system should do by itself.
THIS particular problem was in ODBC, not in IIS. There are other thousands on IIS itself. But here is the little difference beetween m$ toys and Unix real apps, in Unix, you have different software, clearly delimitated, if a given part doesn't work, you can take THAT part out, and the others will continue running, for example, if MySQL dies, Apache will still run ok. You can download a newer version of a given component, patch it, or whatever, install it, and everything will just continue to operate, without affecting other parts of the system.
In the toys that m$ sells, everything is crammed up, you don't know where IIS beggins, where ODBC begins, and where the different engines ODBC connects are, and where the fuck is ASP itself. It's all the same shit, lots of crappy dlls just sitting there in a given directory, you can't update just a part, you have to update the whole shit,
In Unix, i can just start the httpd from the command line, to see what the fuck is going on, i can just su mysql and start mysqld independently to see what's going on, and i can just run a php script from the command line, or recompile PHP, or whatever. And all of that in parallel instances, why the main webserver/db server/mod_php continues to run and serve pages.
In Windows, you CAN'T. And, for most updates, you have to reboot. It's a toy, an ugly toy, that no smart kid would even want to play with.
This happend arround 3 years ago, anyway, if you read my post, i said i wasn't developing a damn thing. If you are a good coder, you will be able to work arround problems with just about any tool. A guru with a pascal compiler will do better than an asshole with emacs and gcc 3.2. The point is, i was the SYSADMIN for a hosting company. Not the developer. You just provide the space, you have no control over the things that people uploads. So, in Unix, we coudl protect the server from the customers. In Windows, you can't.
And please don't came to me with that "that was in _old_ windows versions", Because i have been listening that for years now, and for every windows version now obsolete. Let me explain something to you: If you forget about security, that needs updates, and take into account just funcionality, i would be just happy with about ANY apache version after 1.0... When IIS 5 came out, all people defended it saying "hey, you are talking about older versions, iis 5 just rocks". Now the same shit for IIS 6... Unix has been stable and secure for 30 years, and you windows guys allways says that those problems were only in "older versions". Thats a pretty lame excuse.
See?, this is why capitalism doesn't work, and this is what i was pointing out... what you are saying, is a HORRIBLE way to think, but you consider it OK.
The purpose of Software development is to DEVELOPE new and better sfotware that is usefull to human kind. But, it's not profitable, so, let's just produce crappy software and earn lots of money, yay for free market!. Hey, public education is not profitable, let's just have a few expensive schools, and make lots of money out of it, so, who cares if only a few can get education, we will be rich, yay for free market!. Hey, you know what?, why don't use start producing weapons and sell them to both the USA and Irak?, that way the war will last forever, and we will be rich!, ok, lots will die, but, you know, let the market decide!.
Yay for free market.
You sir, are really dusgusting.
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Absolutely true. I used to work for a hosting company, we had GNU/Linux and Windows servers. The GNU/Linux servers were the ones with more hits, and the ones that required less atention. The windows servers were a pandora box of problems. IIS just can't hold up by itself, if you just serve static pages you are ok, but when people starts using that asp + odbc shit, you have to restart IIS every 5 fucking minutes. We used to receive a stupid "too many conections" from ODBC in our log, and restarting the stupid services woudln't do a damn thing, all you could do was restart the machine, Yes, restart a SERVER. That's about the worse thing a sysadmin can go through, the panic of not knowing if that crappy windows was going to come back up or not. OTH, our GNU/Linux machines with sites running a variety of CGI apps (PHP, Perl, etc), all using MySQL, supported 5 times the load on the windows machines without complaining, and i'm talking about 300 sites on simple x86 hardware, less powerfull than the one on the windows machines, that died with less than 100 sites...
That's a big problem of software made by companys:
1 - The company's cashflow is based arround selling new versions of the software 2 - They can't sell to it's customers improvements that they customers can't see 3 - There is a fixed time that can go by beetween one release and the next one 4 - Resources are limited
Because of this, a major redesign is something that won't be profitable, because only the advanced users will note the changes, but 99% of their customers won't, so the software won't sell well. Bug fixes also won't sell, because they are also unvisible to the naked eye of the majority of the userbase, and also customers expect those changes to be free. So, some companys only can expect revenue from a given software once a year, and they have to invest into that software, a given set of limited resources over, say, 6 months, when they have to freeze the featureset so they can start debugging. Seeing which things sell, they will obviously focus their atention on: New Features, and a nicer GUI. OTH, a project that doesn't have a company running it, can just get out lots of upgrades, when needed, and focus their time on making the software better, even if some of the changes made to the software won't be seen by most of it's users.
With software prices dropping, and Free Software proving to be a better option, the budget of software companys will be even more limited, and we won't see this situation changing anytime soon.
maybe my english understanding is a little low today, or those vodka shots made effects, but i don't really understand your post... please clarify...
About IE... well, the actual question would be why is people still using windows, but, then again, people still beleive that there is a supreme perfect being... so, it's not suprising that most of the world still uses IE...
Showing religious people how wrong they really are with constructive methods that helps our society grow would be better.
But i must agree that just blaspheming is funnier, more satisfactory, and will achieve as much as the method described above, since people is blind and stupid.
If you consider that you are free to put an MP3 on your PDA, why do you consider that i shoudln't be free to put some marihuana on my system? Who are you to say what i can i do and what i can't?, and, why do you consider that listening some song is different from smoking some pot?
When the RIAA tells you what you can do with music and what you can't, you are being opressed. When the government says what i can do with my body, you consider it ok?
Besides, i pay for my drugs, with my jobs. You are not paying for your MP3.
Regardless of what i think about music, and if i consider that copying is a crime (which is not), the one in a more questionable ethical position is you. I buy what i want, and use it the way i want, without harming anyone.
You take the work of a musician and you don't pay for it.
We can discuss if you have the right to do it or not. I think that you have the right, many people will say the opossite, but, in any case, it's not a clear RIGHT to copy MP3. OTH,it's a clear right that i have to smoke whatever i want.
It was a hard time, and every country involved in the war is responsable for lots of deads, but please consider this photography: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Big_ 3.jpg , and think what each of the people on it did to others and what each did for their country.
Stalin industrialized Russia and positionated it as a world leader, and the only nation that could actually compete with the USA for half a century.
The USA economy and politics are based on something i like to call the "don't even smell that shit" concept. Instead of basing the country structure on more important principles and accepting that there are other political, economical, religious, and social ideas; they base their country on ONE single idea on each category, and convince their people that every other kind of idea in each area is "shit", and "you have to disagree with shit other than owers, and you shouldn't even test the smell of other shit to see how it is". "All Shit, besides owers, smells bad". So, instead of accepting that comunism is just another political system, and that there are and will be comunist countrys out there, they attack the concept itself, and not in a "we prefer capitalism" fashion, but in a more "that shit is evil" fashion. So, here is where they have the "un-american" concept. Everyone in the USA wants to be "american", and the government convinces you that if you do anything they don't like, you are "unamerican". A pretty simple concept, and not very different from Stalinism. The difference is that Stalin was a smart man, that he wanted the best for his country, and that he had just one face. You may disagree with his methods, but he did what he considered best for his people, and a big part of what he had to do was because of the external presure made by the USA. The same that happends in Cuba.
Off course, and not only the GUI, but many functionality built into m$ office is actually part of the OS, while OO is a complete suite, with all the code into the app itself. It's the same that happends with IE. IE loads faster than Firefox, because IE is allready loaded as part of the OS, with the actual explorer being just a frontend, if we preload Gecko, Mozilla would load faster (Konqueror is a good example of this).
Anyway, We use Free Software beacause it's Free (As in Freedom). If a certain app has technicall problems, we should be working to improve it, not write bad reviews about it.
You are a /.er with an Asian GF that reads /.??
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What you need in order to move arround in hour house connecting to an AP is an omnidirectional antena (a pigtail that broadcasts in all directions.) This are directional antenas, that is, while the omnidirectional antenas cover 360 degrees, this only cover an specific range (it differs, it's arround 25 degrees for yagis, for example), but they have to be pointed to the other antena, and they require a line of sight.
People is stupid, they want what is new. It doesn't matter if what you allready have is better. We have had trains for more than a century, it's old, it surely isn't good, regardless of the fact that is the cheapest, cleanest, and more comfortable form of public transportation.
O, a Monorail?, that's good, it was about time we got ride of those stupid trains.
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If they want to have a team of professionals looking at certain ideas, trying to develop something new, they have to pay for a lab, offices, expensive buys that the scientifics will ask for their lab, the rather high salaries they would have to pay to the scientists, plus the salaries of their assistans, AND, when someone has a great idea, and it's put into practice, they will have to give him a grant WAY, WAY, BIGER than the one they are offering now.
/.ers are crazy for space exploration, but most people out there, after all the circus arround the suposed moon trip, and the government constantly telling them that the only important thing they should be spending money in is in paying the fucking army to "protect" them from "terrorists", people just don't trust the NASA, they think that the NASA is a waste of tax dollars, and are not really exited about space exploration at all.
This way, they don't spend a cent, and have thousands of people working for free, and each of those persons are paying their own infrastructure. If someone has a good idea, they will just give him a small payment (the payment is small considering what they usually spend in research done in more conventional ways).
Also, there is the press and public image. The NASA needs more money. And they current public image is not really very good. In order to get more money from the government, they need to improve their public image, and they need to get people interested in space exploration.
This is also a way to try to change that, and get people willing to open their wallets again like they did in the 60s.
>> Is there some utility to drawing lines that don't cross?
How can you be so insensitive!. Do you want your lines to be uncomfortably crammed up?
Please someone think of the lines!
I absolutely agree with what you are saying, but let me explain my point of view:
When there are good reasons NOT to do something, and those reasons are evident, and then someone goes on and do it anyway, you can't expect that person to understand that reasons, invariably they will either just neglect those reasons, aknowledge them but ignore them, or just create good excuses. After a few generations, people will beleive the lies, and those reasons will be just impossible for them to understand.
Many nations over time have tried to take over the world. They all received the same advice: "If you are going to opress people, and make a profit out of them, you either kill them all, or you prepare for revolution, because it will happend, and blood will cover the streets". Many understood this, and, while they still conquered, they knew that they shouldn't mess with certain stuff, and they knew when to retire (for example, the UK).
The USA didn't care. They think they can rule the world, dominate other nations, get in the middle of anything, try to be the police of the world, and they think nobody would do anything about it. When someone does something about it, they blame everyone else, and try to get the rest of the world to help them.
Yes, they rule the world now, but they won't rule the world forever. Every nation in the world has something against them, because they have in one situation of another fucked every other nation in the world, and even groups inside their country, so, when they finaly loose their power, nobody will be there to help them, and they will have a rather large list of people waiting for revenge.
What a stupid capitalist bastard you are ...
Look, certain things should be done as good as possible BECAUSE that's good to human kind. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK if someone in your stupid capitalist system can profit from it or not.
People should recieve the best education possible. People should do their work the best they can. Software should be as good as it can get. And this are just examples, the rule is: The human race have had lots of political, economical and social systems, but the objective all the time is to IMPROVE our life quality, to learn, to be better as a society. If your stupid capitalist system gets in the middle of that, FUCK CAPITALISM.
Oh, sory. I thought you enjoyed freedom. I was obviously wrong.
Yes, the people WILL write bad apps, IT WAS A FUCKING HOSTING COMPANY, you can't control what people is going to upload. Let me put it this way:
The Unix case:
- People uploads shitty stuff
- The system is robust and can still handle it.
- The system gives you the tools required to control what your users can and can't do
- Things just works.
The Windows case:
- People uploads shitty stuff
- The system is shitty and falls under the load
- The system doesn't give you any kind of tools to control what your users do, and the 3rd party tools available are expensive and cause even more problems
- Things just DOENS'T work ok, and you have to be keeping an eye constantly on the fucking server, to do manually what the system should do by itself.
Well, The 3 more important things about Free Software are:
1) Freedom for all the users and developers
2) Quality
3) Old-School.
Besides the first 2 items, which are the ones usually mentioned as arguments in favor of Free Software, the 3rd one is just as important.
Welcome to GNU, have Fun.
THIS particular problem was in ODBC, not in IIS. There are other thousands on IIS itself.
But here is the little difference beetween m$ toys and Unix real apps, in Unix, you have different software, clearly delimitated, if a given part doesn't work, you can take THAT part out, and the others will continue running, for example, if MySQL dies, Apache will still run ok. You can download a newer version of a given component, patch it, or whatever, install it, and everything will just continue to operate, without affecting other parts of the system.
In the toys that m$ sells, everything is crammed up, you don't know where IIS beggins, where ODBC begins, and where the different engines ODBC connects are, and where the fuck is ASP itself. It's all the same shit, lots of crappy dlls just sitting there in a given directory, you can't update just a part, you have to update the whole shit,
For example, let's take 3 parts:
Webserver, Database system, Interpreted programming language.
In Windows:
IIS, ODBC + MDB File, ASP
In Unix:
Apache, MySQL, PHP
In Unix, i can just start the httpd from the command line, to see what the fuck is going on, i can just su mysql and start mysqld independently to see what's going on, and i can just run a php script from the command line, or recompile PHP, or whatever. And all of that in parallel instances, why the main webserver/db server/mod_php continues to run and serve pages.
In Windows, you CAN'T. And, for most updates, you have to reboot.
It's a toy, an ugly toy, that no smart kid would even want to play with.
This happend arround 3 years ago, anyway, if you read my post, i said i wasn't developing a damn thing. If you are a good coder, you will be able to work arround problems with just about any tool. A guru with a pascal compiler will do better than an asshole with emacs and gcc 3.2.
... ...
The point is, i was the SYSADMIN for a hosting company. Not the developer. You just provide the space, you have no control over the things that people uploads. So, in Unix, we coudl protect the server from the customers. In Windows, you can't.
And please don't came to me with that "that was in _old_ windows versions", Because i have been listening that for years now, and for every windows version now obsolete. Let me explain something to you: If you forget about security, that needs updates, and take into account just funcionality, i would be just happy with about ANY apache version after 1.0
When IIS 5 came out, all people defended it saying "hey, you are talking about older versions, iis 5 just rocks". Now the same shit for IIS 6
Unix has been stable and secure for 30 years, and you windows guys allways says that those problems were only in "older versions". Thats a pretty lame excuse.
See?, this is why capitalism doesn't work, and this is what i was pointing out ... what you are saying, is a HORRIBLE way to think, but you consider it OK.
The purpose of Software development is to DEVELOPE new and better sfotware that is usefull to human kind. But, it's not profitable, so, let's just produce crappy software and earn lots of money, yay for free market!. Hey, public education is not profitable, let's just have a few expensive schools, and make lots of money out of it, so, who cares if only a few can get education, we will be rich, yay for free market!. Hey, you know what?, why don't use start producing weapons and sell them to both the USA and Irak?, that way the war will last forever, and we will be rich!, ok, lots will die, but, you know, let the market decide!.
Yay for free market.
You sir, are really dusgusting.
Absolutely true. I used to work for a hosting company, we had GNU/Linux and Windows servers. ...
The GNU/Linux servers were the ones with more hits, and the ones that required less atention. The windows servers were a pandora box of problems. IIS just can't hold up by itself, if you just serve static pages you are ok, but when people starts using that asp + odbc shit, you have to restart IIS every 5 fucking minutes. We used to receive a stupid "too many conections" from ODBC in our log, and restarting the stupid services woudln't do a damn thing, all you could do was restart the machine, Yes, restart a SERVER. That's about the worse thing a sysadmin can go through, the panic of not knowing if that crappy windows was going to come back up or not. OTH, our GNU/Linux machines with sites running a variety of CGI apps (PHP, Perl, etc), all using MySQL, supported 5 times the load on the windows machines without complaining, and i'm talking about 300 sites on simple x86 hardware, less powerfull than the one on the windows machines, that died with less than 100 sites
Those are players, the codecs are still proprietary and binary only.
They should be redesigned.
That's a big problem of software made by companys:
1 - The company's cashflow is based arround selling new versions of the software
2 - They can't sell to it's customers improvements that they customers can't see
3 - There is a fixed time that can go by beetween one release and the next one
4 - Resources are limited
Because of this, a major redesign is something that won't be profitable, because only the advanced users will note the changes, but 99% of their customers won't, so the software won't sell well. Bug fixes also won't sell, because they are also unvisible to the naked eye of the majority of the userbase, and also customers expect those changes to be free.
So, some companys only can expect revenue from a given software once a year, and they have to invest into that software, a given set of limited resources over, say, 6 months, when they have to freeze the featureset so they can start debugging. Seeing which things sell, they will obviously focus their atention on: New Features, and a nicer GUI.
OTH, a project that doesn't have a company running it, can just get out lots of upgrades, when needed, and focus their time on making the software better, even if some of the changes made to the software won't be seen by most of it's users.
With software prices dropping, and Free Software proving to be a better option, the budget of software companys will be even more limited, and we won't see this situation changing anytime soon.
maybe my english understanding is a little low today, or those vodka shots made effects, but i don't really understand your post ... please clarify ...
... well, the actual question would be why is people still using windows, but, then again, people still beleive that there is a supreme perfect being ... so, it's not suprising that most of the world still uses IE ...
About IE
That's something i didn't understand. Why would you put copy protection on a CD nobody would copy?
;-)
On certain things sony has released, i would put burning and massive destruction protection
Amen.
Showing religious people how wrong they really are with constructive methods that helps our society grow would be better.
But i must agree that just blaspheming is funnier, more satisfactory, and will achieve as much as the method described above, since people is blind and stupid.
If you consider that you are free to put an MP3 on your PDA, why do you consider that i shoudln't be free to put some marihuana on my system?
Who are you to say what i can i do and what i can't?, and, why do you consider that listening some song is different from smoking some pot?
When the RIAA tells you what you can do with music and what you can't, you are being opressed.
When the government says what i can do with my body, you consider it ok?
Besides, i pay for my drugs, with my jobs.
You are not paying for your MP3.
Regardless of what i think about music, and if i consider that copying is a crime (which is not), the one in a more questionable ethical position is you.
I buy what i want, and use it the way i want, without harming anyone.
You take the work of a musician and you don't pay for it.
We can discuss if you have the right to do it or not. I think that you have the right, many people will say the opossite, but, in any case, it's not a clear RIGHT to copy MP3.
OTH,it's a clear right that i have to smoke whatever i want.
So, think before you post.
It was a hard time, and every country involved in the war is responsable for lots of deads, but please consider this photography: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Big_ 3.jpg , and think what each of the people on it did to others and what each did for their country.
Stalin industrialized Russia and positionated it as a world leader, and the only nation that could actually compete with the USA for half a century.
The USA economy and politics are based on something i like to call the "don't even smell that shit" concept. Instead of basing the country structure on more important principles and accepting that there are other political, economical, religious, and social ideas; they base their country on ONE single idea on each category, and convince their people that every other kind of idea in each area is "shit", and "you have to disagree with shit other than owers, and you shouldn't even test the smell of other shit to see how it is". "All Shit, besides owers, smells bad".
So, instead of accepting that comunism is just another political system, and that there are and will be comunist countrys out there, they attack the concept itself, and not in a "we prefer capitalism" fashion, but in a more "that shit is evil" fashion.
So, here is where they have the "un-american" concept. Everyone in the USA wants to be "american", and the government convinces you that if you do anything they don't like, you are "unamerican". A pretty simple concept, and not very different from Stalinism. The difference is that Stalin was a smart man, that he wanted the best for his country, and that he had just one face. You may disagree with his methods, but he did what he considered best for his people, and a big part of what he had to do was because of the external presure made by the USA. The same that happends in Cuba.
Off course, and not only the GUI, but many functionality built into m$ office is actually part of the OS, while OO is a complete suite, with all the code into the app itself. It's the same that happends with IE. IE loads faster than Firefox, because IE is allready loaded as part of the OS, with the actual explorer being just a frontend, if we preload Gecko, Mozilla would load faster (Konqueror is a good example of this).
Anyway, We use Free Software beacause it's Free (As in Freedom). If a certain app has technicall problems, we should be working to improve it, not write bad reviews about it.
I call BS! ;-)
What you need in order to move arround in hour house connecting to an AP is an omnidirectional antena (a pigtail that broadcasts in all directions.) This are directional antenas, that is, while the omnidirectional antenas cover 360 degrees, this only cover an specific range (it differs, it's arround 25 degrees for yagis, for example), but they have to be pointed to the other antena, and they require a line of sight.
People is stupid, they want what is new. It doesn't matter if what you allready have is better.
We have had trains for more than a century, it's old, it surely isn't good, regardless of the fact that is the cheapest, cleanest, and more comfortable form of public transportation.
O, a Monorail?, that's good, it was about time we got ride of those stupid trains.
No it's not. If in order to be really free, i must kill you, or make you starve to death, i certainly will.
OTAH, is YOUR food more important than YOUR freedom?, that's sad.
I Don't use proprietary software, so go fuck yourself and you ver shitty software.