Where'd you find a BSD license with just 8 lines? Without the warranty, it comes to 12 lines, and with the warranty, it comes to about 30...
wc -w would provide a slightly better estimate: 222 for BSD and 2968 for GPL-2.
Which is quite beside the point: The GPL has more conditions than BSD, and that's by design. You don't claim that say, the Linux kernel is worse than a Hello World program because it has a bazillion more lines, or that "Happy Birthday" is better than Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor because it has fewer notes...
It could still be a general drop in cancer rates, but a specific rise in the rates for people who use cellphones (in certain conditions, given that pretty much everyone uses them these days?). Looking at simple numbers like that is inconclusive
Before going to monkeys, they could start with in vitro tests: Pulse radiation into a petri dish of cultured brain cells and see if they react. If they do, then go with the simians...
Here in the west USA, we have long droughts. We count on reservoirs having enough water. The problem is that we have also been depending for far too long on aquifers. So, we regularly talk about pipelines. Well, there is ZERO chance that an economical large pipeline can be developed. HOWEVER, this has the ability to put a lot more moisture in the air. When it is known that a cold front is going to hit an area, then we simply bump up the amount of moisture in the air. It will mean LARGE snow dumps, but that is needed. It will allow us to fill the aquifers as well as reservoirs.
You have droughts because you insist on growing things that should not grow in rain-starved regions. Aquifers or otherwise, Las Vegas being in the middle of a desert and having lush, well-watered lawns with water pumped from several hundred kilometers away is bad strategy to begin with.
The west of the US is a desert; as in, "has little to no rainfall". Trying to "tame" nature there was the real mistake...
Thou shalt not touch a big-arsed capacitor without discharching it before, lest ye be smitten down.
Thou shall always remember that woode is only an isolator below a certain voltage, lest it presenteth a path for the electrone and filleth yer room with holy flame and smoke.
Thou shall always use a decent head-sink for yer MOSFETs, lest ye olde magick smoke escapeth.
Sounds like a very hillbilly religion you've got there...
Hint: look up the words thy and thine...
That's because Apple and Microsoft have paid for the licenses for H.264, as have (in all probability) any other large enough companies who develop on those platforms.
Or are you suggesting that Mozilla ignore a possible legal minefield, because "everyone else is doing it"?
Operative point: their work, not mine (though of course, I don't work on video codecs)
That wasn't the point, anyway; I was arguing that even though the copyright of x264 is free, it wouldn't be of any help to free/open developers because the royalties are for the patent.
Science should be defended by peer review and by thesis defence, not by challenging it in a court of law, with the possibility of a legal punishment for being wrong, or for producing a politically inconvenient result.
Though this is becoming a bit of a Godwin by itself, I'll mention Galileo here...
If the investigation had any "merits", could he please find a few decent scientists who know about this stuff (either worked in the field or in allied fields) who might conduct it, instead of doing it as a political witch-hunt?
Mann did invite a lot of criticism by not opening his data when people asked him for it. I'm referring of course to the issues with the bristlecone pine and his convolution of several sets of temperature proxies. I haven't heard of any evidence that Mann is involved in any fraud though, but witch hunts by their very nature never come up empty-handed. This one won't either.
I think you're confusing Michael E. Mann, who conducted some research based on climate data with the CRU which actually publishes some of the data.
The controversy in that case was just this: CRU publishes a compilation of recent near-surface temperature, in association with the Hadley Centre. This is made up of data from various national meteorological agencies, which is processed to remove local noise and variations (urban heat island effect, moving of weather stations, etc), gridded and used to produce global surface temperature records.
The end-product of CRU's record was always available in public. What was controversial was that some of the national weather agencies' records couldn't be released because those agencies had copyright over the data, and were selling it commercially. There's also a possibility that the CRU scientists used copyright as an excuse to spite those who were using FOIA requests to harass them (as they saw it, and I for one don't blame them - requesting data you have no intention of using, for the sole purpose of making a noise about it, whether it's released or not is disingenuous at best).
In any case, pretty much all of the actual data, barring a few stations, was in the public domain long before the FOIA requests - those making the requests just couldn't get as much political mileage out of public domain data. You can still find all that data by going to RealClimate
Michael Mann, on the other hand, is a researcher who worked on the "hockey stick" graph - a consolidation of various paleoclimate data, collected from proxies like tree rings and ice cores. He and his co-authors overlaid several paleoclimate reconstructions over each other, to show how well they correlated, and found that they all correlated pretty well, and showed a marked rise in temperature during the industrial era. One controversy with this data is that they added instrument records (that is, the CRU temperature series) to the end of the chart (which you can see as the black line in the image), which shows more warming in recent times. Another is that one proxy (tree ring data) shows a decline in the proxy measurement (tree ring width) from the 1960s onwards, which on the face of it, should imply that temperatures are declining, but which no other data, including all the various instrument data show. Mann used a statistical trick of stopping the tree ring data with the 60s and tacking on the instrument data, a technique some people disagree with.
Anyway, the point is, none of Michael Mann's data was ever hidden away
The iPhone was released in 2007. I think it's a little premature to make any call on what an entire generation of devs is going to do based on one device released just about one-bachelor's-degree back...
Steve, if it's really you (and even if it's not)...
Several Misconceptions
H.264 is an open standard in that you are free to implement your own version of it for any platform that you see fit. It is also open in that no one company or group retains total control of the standard. While you may have to pay licensing costs to use any version of H.264, as I said, you are free to implement your own version (there is an open source version called x264).
And free to be sued by MPEG-LA if I even try to distribute it? Strange definition of freedom you have going there...
If there were some sort of exception given for non-profit use/distribution, or something of that sort, yes, I'd agree with you...
Also, the app store is the best way for Apple users to obtain quality software that is free of errata, defects or security holes at a reasonable cost. Adobe's Flash platform however, has several defects. One such defect is that it uses more battery life than it should on mobile platforms. Our devices are designed to be efficient and have a good battery life. With Flash, the battery life on our devices would be less than optimal. Flash also has several security holes, as is on the Mac and Windows. We do not intend to let a security ridden framework on our devices. I hope this cleared up any misconceptions you may have had.
Alright, but as the end user, is it not my choice to use it, even if it'd drain my battery in a... Flash?
Right now, I've got an Android device, which also has a market, but it has a small configuration flag: "Unknown sources: Allow install of non-market applications". It's hidden deep enough in the settings that one can't trigger it accidentally, but it's there, just like the option to install Windows or Linux (or my own homebrew OS) on a Mac using Boot Camp is there.
I hope that this helps clear up any misunderstanding of what the community is complaining about right now.
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Well, Fox is Murdoch owned...
Where'd you find a BSD license with just 8 lines? Without the warranty, it comes to 12 lines, and with the warranty, it comes to about 30...
wc -w would provide a slightly better estimate: 222 for BSD and 2968 for GPL-2.
Which is quite beside the point: The GPL has more conditions than BSD, and that's by design. You don't claim that say, the Linux kernel is worse than a Hello World program because it has a bazillion more lines, or that "Happy Birthday" is better than Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor because it has fewer notes...
Well, Java has had JOGL and Java3D for a while now, at least...
Yes, it would be rather difficult to run software that's no longer coupled to the hardware...
Their broom is pretty much the only thing of value they have left...
It could still be a general drop in cancer rates, but a specific rise in the rates for people who use cellphones (in certain conditions, given that pretty much everyone uses them these days?). Looking at simple numbers like that is inconclusive
The "theory" is that that since cellphones operate in the microwave spectrum, with more energy in each pulse, this can cause cancer.
Yeah, ionizing vs non-ionizing and all that, but this is what I've heard about the theory.
Before going to monkeys, they could start with in vitro tests: Pulse radiation into a petri dish of cultured brain cells and see if they react. If they do, then go with the simians...
Not a lawyer, but Indian patent law does not allow software patents per se. Software is only patentable as part of a hardware implementation.
And looking at the patents claimed by MPEG-LA:
I call shenanigans...
Which is to be achieved using... increased evaporation?
Here in the west USA, we have long droughts. We count on reservoirs having enough water. The problem is that we have also been depending for far too long on aquifers. So, we regularly talk about pipelines. Well, there is ZERO chance that an economical large pipeline can be developed. HOWEVER, this has the ability to put a lot more moisture in the air. When it is known that a cold front is going to hit an area, then we simply bump up the amount of moisture in the air. It will mean LARGE snow dumps, but that is needed. It will allow us to fill the aquifers as well as reservoirs.
You have droughts because you insist on growing things that should not grow in rain-starved regions. Aquifers or otherwise, Las Vegas being in the middle of a desert and having lush, well-watered lawns with water pumped from several hundred kilometers away is bad strategy to begin with.
The west of the US is a desert; as in, "has little to no rainfall". Trying to "tame" nature there was the real mistake...
Thou shalt not touch a big-arsed capacitor without discharching it before, lest ye be smitten down. Thou shall always remember that woode is only an isolator below a certain voltage, lest it presenteth a path for the electrone and filleth yer room with holy flame and smoke. Thou shall always use a decent head-sink for yer MOSFETs, lest ye olde magick smoke escapeth.
Sounds like a very hillbilly religion you've got there... Hint: look up the words thy and thine...
Don't worry, we'll just use the oil from your sibling post's companies... ;-)
That's because Apple and Microsoft have paid for the licenses for H.264, as have (in all probability) any other large enough companies who develop on those platforms.
Or are you suggesting that Mozilla ignore a possible legal minefield, because "everyone else is doing it"?
Alright, fair enough... But my fear is that it will still distract from the science, by essentially criminalizing the science if things go wrong...
Since they didn't, apparently that's a legal minefield too...
Operative point: their work, not mine (though of course, I don't work on video codecs)
That wasn't the point, anyway; I was arguing that even though the copyright of x264 is free, it wouldn't be of any help to free/open developers because the royalties are for the patent.
And which was also quite easily dismissed...
Science should be defended by peer review and by thesis defence, not by challenging it in a court of law, with the possibility of a legal punishment for being wrong, or for producing a politically inconvenient result.
Though this is becoming a bit of a Godwin by itself, I'll mention Galileo here...
If the investigation had any "merits", could he please find a few decent scientists who know about this stuff (either worked in the field or in allied fields) who might conduct it, instead of doing it as a political witch-hunt?
If not, the criticism is entirely valid.
Mann did invite a lot of criticism by not opening his data when people asked him for it. I'm referring of course to the issues with the bristlecone pine and his convolution of several sets of temperature proxies. I haven't heard of any evidence that Mann is involved in any fraud though, but witch hunts by their very nature never come up empty-handed. This one won't either.
I think you're confusing Michael E. Mann, who conducted some research based on climate data with the CRU which actually publishes some of the data.
The controversy in that case was just this: CRU publishes a compilation of recent near-surface temperature, in association with the Hadley Centre. This is made up of data from various national meteorological agencies, which is processed to remove local noise and variations (urban heat island effect, moving of weather stations, etc), gridded and used to produce global surface temperature records.
The end-product of CRU's record was always available in public. What was controversial was that some of the national weather agencies' records couldn't be released because those agencies had copyright over the data, and were selling it commercially. There's also a possibility that the CRU scientists used copyright as an excuse to spite those who were using FOIA requests to harass them (as they saw it, and I for one don't blame them - requesting data you have no intention of using, for the sole purpose of making a noise about it, whether it's released or not is disingenuous at best).
In any case, pretty much all of the actual data, barring a few stations, was in the public domain long before the FOIA requests - those making the requests just couldn't get as much political mileage out of public domain data. You can still find all that data by going to RealClimate
Michael Mann, on the other hand, is a researcher who worked on the "hockey stick" graph - a consolidation of various paleoclimate data, collected from proxies like tree rings and ice cores. He and his co-authors overlaid several paleoclimate reconstructions over each other, to show how well they correlated, and found that they all correlated pretty well, and showed a marked rise in temperature during the industrial era. One controversy with this data is that they added instrument records (that is, the CRU temperature series) to the end of the chart (which you can see as the black line in the image), which shows more warming in recent times. Another is that one proxy (tree ring data) shows a decline in the proxy measurement (tree ring width) from the 1960s onwards, which on the face of it, should imply that temperatures are declining, but which no other data, including all the various instrument data show. Mann used a statistical trick of stopping the tree ring data with the 60s and tacking on the instrument data, a technique some people disagree with.
Anyway, the point is, none of Michael Mann's data was ever hidden away
That would be by an audit, not a court case.
A court case, which would require evidence of wrongdoing, which simply has not been shown to date.
The iPhone was released in 2007. I think it's a little premature to make any call on what an entire generation of devs is going to do based on one device released just about one-bachelor's-degree back...
He takes the magnitude and phase values, of course! Simple mathematics... :P
It's like the sphere visiting Flatland...
Steve, if it's really you (and even if it's not)...
Several Misconceptions H.264 is an open standard in that you are free to implement your own version of it for any platform that you see fit. It is also open in that no one company or group retains total control of the standard. While you may have to pay licensing costs to use any version of H.264, as I said, you are free to implement your own version (there is an open source version called x264).
And free to be sued by MPEG-LA if I even try to distribute it? Strange definition of freedom you have going there...
If there were some sort of exception given for non-profit use/distribution, or something of that sort, yes, I'd agree with you...
Also, the app store is the best way for Apple users to obtain quality software that is free of errata, defects or security holes at a reasonable cost. Adobe's Flash platform however, has several defects. One such defect is that it uses more battery life than it should on mobile platforms. Our devices are designed to be efficient and have a good battery life. With Flash, the battery life on our devices would be less than optimal. Flash also has several security holes, as is on the Mac and Windows. We do not intend to let a security ridden framework on our devices. I hope this cleared up any misconceptions you may have had.
Alright, but as the end user, is it not my choice to use it, even if it'd drain my battery in a... Flash?
Right now, I've got an Android device, which also has a market, but it has a small configuration flag: "Unknown sources: Allow install of non-market applications". It's hidden deep enough in the settings that one can't trigger it accidentally, but it's there, just like the option to install Windows or Linux (or my own homebrew OS) on a Mac using Boot Camp is there.
I hope that this helps clear up any misunderstanding of what the community is complaining about right now.