by your definition, ripping a CD is illegal, which I seriously doubt. Has anyone been sued for ripping a CD? If not then I suggest your cited article is about as relevant as some of the oral sex is illegal laws that are on the books in some states.
Regarding peer to peer (and other internet) case law, has anyone been successfully procescuted for downloading music? I've heard of RIAA suing people for sharing (i.e. distributing) but not for downloading.
SIDEBAR: global megacorporations love it when they can fire me and move my job to india or china and pay someone pennies on the dollar to do the same work but the when the shoe of globalism is on the other foot and folks here in the US pay russian prices for music they aren't so thrilled. LOL.
Unless you're a Russian citizen, living in Russia, listening to the music in Russia, allofmp3.com is also not legal. If you're going to violate local copyright laws, at least use a P2P service where they don't take down your name and credit card number.
And what do you base this statement on? Forget proof, has RIAA even ever commented on allofMP3? Last time I searched RIAA was mute on the subject of AllofMP3.com which is strange when you consider how much music US customers download from there. It is inconceivable that RIAA is unaware that US citizens are using AllofMP3 in droves.
Granted, ripping CDs in the US and uploading them to allofMP3 is likely to be illegal but I have seen nothing to suggest that downloading music from allofMP3.com is illegal.
Presumably if it was illegal to download from allofMP3 then RIAA would get an injunction (or some such legal device) against the credit card companies so that VISA and Mastercard would not let US customers do business with AllofMP3.
I've used AllofMP3.com for nearly a year and I'm thrilled with them. They give me MP3s in the format I want (192kbps VBR MP3s) and they have old hard to find music (e.g. King Crimson - Discipline) that I can't get from other online services.
SIDEBAR: it was actually the fact that I couldn't fine old AC/DC and King Crimson albums that I wanted on iTunes that drove me to AllofMP3, not the fact that AllofMP3 is cheaper!
I don't need no stinkin wall paper! I need a real wi-fi encryption standard!
come on folks, 256 bit AES + diffie-helman key exchange or RSA public keys. The technology has been around so that all the relevant patents have expired.
What is your favorite reason for explaining why this hasn't been implemented yet?
The Russians are probably fine -- if they're careful, RIAA won't be able to shut them down. OTOH, Americans using the service could get into significant trouble if they're caught.
yeah right! AllofMP3 has been in business for more than a year, RIAA is obviously aware of them yet RIAA not so much as whispers a threat to US ALLOFMP3 customers.
Go ahead, try googling 'allofmp3 RIAA' and see what you find. Go ahead, try contacting RIAA and ask them to comment on ALLOFMP3. RIAA can't do jack about ALLOFMP3 so their stragegy has been to be silent on the issue and hope nobody notices these websites (although I do expect they are lobbying to fix this problem)
these russian sites are obviously the biggest fish in the ocean with regards to distributing RIAA content. While RIAA may not be able to sue ALLOFMP3 in russia, it should be a trivial matter to get an injunction against VISA, MasterCard and Paypal so that these services won't allow U.S. customers to pay ALLOFMP3, if RIAA had a legal leg to stand on.
Of course if you frighten people away from ALLOFMP3 and that makes it easier for you and me to access the very busy ALLOFMP3 servers I guess that is OK;)
> They can't prosecute the distributers in the > allofmp3 case because the people there are > abiding to the laws in their country. > It's a loophole.
Right. Just like U.S. courts can't procecute Nike for violations of U.S. labor laws that occur in indonesian factories.
Many a corporate fortune is based on so called loophole.
You use the word loophole as if there is some moral component to corporations. Corporations have no morals, just an overriding concern for increasing shareholder value. If a corporation thinks will, in the end, increase share holder value then they will do it.
it is a breath of fresh air to see a loophole that benefits the common man for a change rather than some billion dollar corporation. Don't worry though, I'm sure this situation will be rectified some time in the not too distant future.
allofMP3 has been around for more than a year. It is inconceivable that RIAA in unaware of them...
I challenge you to show me one instance of RIAA successfully procecuting someone for being a customer of allofMP3. Heck, forget the 'successful' part, just show me news of one case where RIAA is beating up on someone for buying and downloading music from allofmp3.com.
I've googled high and low for this and I can't find a thing.
Regarding your claim that "the artist gets squat": allofMP3 claims to be paying their R.O.M. licensing fees (similar to BMI fees paid to artists for radio broadcast). Perhaps they're lying but if not then the artists are being paid.
Sure, artists are getting _less_ but hey, wecome to the wonderful world of offshoring! Offshoring isn't just for saving big companies money on tech job salaries -- it is for RIAA's intellectual property too. Big business loves a 'race to the bottom' when it benefits them but when the globalism shoe gets put on their I.P. foot then you cry 'foul, unfair' eh?
shure makes some of the best sounding ear buds around. Does anyone know where I can find a
sound quality test that includes shure e2, e3 and e5 earphones? Graphs for Etys would be nice too.
I have E2s and love them. I'm curious to see how their accuracy compares.
there are other russian music sites (mp3search.ru) but allofmp3.com is the best!
They have a much larger selection than iTunes + Napster put together (or so it seems to me) and, as previously mentioned, %80 (or more) of the songs allow you to select what format and bitrate you want to download them in.
regarding "sniffing" -- you are missing the point!
What port knocking does is raise the cost of automated scanning of random internet machines.
the script kiddies who run the year 2004 equivalent of SATAN against a "phonebook" of ip addresses (or random ip addresses) will have a much tougher time.
I do! I'm willing to pay a premium for a PC that is silent. A few years back Apple designed a Mac that didn't have any fans... unfortunately it was a flop.
I am so happy I can pay my $5 subscription without using a credit card. I would not have subscribed if I had to use a credit card...
My biggest fear with using a credit card is that given a CC # and some personal information, any merchant in the world can put charges on my card. Of course I can dispute the charges and get them reversed but this wastes my time and stresses me out (I've experienced internet credit card fraud a few times now).
Problems with Paypal not withstanding, their business idea is great:
they will not give a merchant money from my account unless someone with my password authorizes it.
This idea is so simple yet there are so few places I can pay like this. With Paypal I only have to worry about Paypal screwing me. With a credit card or CCBill or online checks or whatever I'm fair game for the whole thieving world!
Until online payment standards emerge that allow an EBay billpoint customer to send money to a Paypal customer (and vice versa) without having to open a Paypal account, Paypal is our best choice for online payment. I don't see standards like this emerging anytime soon. Consequently I think the best course of action is to try and bludgeon Paypal into becoming a better company. Write Paypal constructive letters. Write your newspaper to get them to do critical articles on Paypal's faults. Now that they are a public company they should be more sensitive to bad press.
BTW, I think Slashdot's subscription system is great. I wish Yahoo gave me this option! $5 for 1000 pages is a reasonable price.
> Let me paraphrase: Microsoft has a patent on an
> OS that prevents a computer from booting
> anything but the "right OS" Seems to me this
> would do away with dual boot PCs rather nicely.
yes, because they know that PGP is soon going to be outlawed (no keyescrow backdoor) so it would just be a waste of money to change infrastruture to use PGP simply to have to change this infrastructure in the near future.
> Now we see that the GPL's anti-patent stance appears to be trying to stifle this innovation unless the inventor
> consents to its terms, which would deprive the inventor of profit.
> A clearer example of the anti-innovative tendency of the free software movement could not be imagined.
yeah right. The GPL stifled the development of linux too.
As other folks have said, they could have chosen FreeBSD as their starting point. By your measure BSD should be light years ahead of linux because it has been around much longer and doesn't stifle innovation with an anti-patent license.
>Besides- who says the government CAN"T break them already? It probably just takes a bit more effort...
This posting to a "insightful 4" rating?!
The quoted text above shows you are either
1) a troll
2) don't know jack about crypto
It is generally accepted that no crypto is perfect. The point of crypto is to raise the cost of snooping.
Ignoring your specious reasoning for a moment, if we do assume that the government CAN break my crypo then they don't need outlaw escrowless crypto. (of course this argument has the same flaw as your statement...)
Re:Technology? Low tech solution to hijacking.
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>The only thing that can ultimately defend against
>terrorism is signals intelligence --high tech. We
>have insanely high capabilities in this area and
>use them
How about the low tech solution of having a breach proof door protecting the cockpit?
It wouldn't be hard to have two secure door controlled from within the cockpit to prevent hijackers gaining control of the cockpit.
Combine this with a policy of NEVER opening the cockpit to hostiles NO MATTER WHAT and hijackings would disappear -- a hijacking simply degenerates to a typical hostage situation.
Why take hostages on an airplane (difficult to get past security) when you could take them at a shopping mall?
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by your definition, ripping a CD is illegal, which I seriously doubt. Has anyone been sued for ripping a CD? If not then I suggest your cited article is about as relevant as some of the oral sex is illegal laws that are on the books in some states.
Regarding peer to peer (and other internet) case law, has anyone been successfully procescuted for downloading music? I've heard of RIAA suing people for sharing (i.e. distributing) but not for downloading.
SIDEBAR: global megacorporations love it when they can fire me and move my job to india or china and pay someone pennies on the dollar to do the same work but the when the shoe of globalism is on the other foot and folks here in the US pay russian prices for music they aren't so thrilled. LOL.
And what do you base this statement on? Forget proof, has RIAA even ever commented on allofMP3? Last time I searched RIAA was mute on the subject of AllofMP3.com which is strange when you consider how much music US customers download from there. It is inconceivable that RIAA is unaware that US citizens are using AllofMP3 in droves.
Granted, ripping CDs in the US and uploading them to allofMP3 is likely to be illegal but I have seen nothing to suggest that downloading music from allofMP3.com is illegal.
Presumably if it was illegal to download from allofMP3 then RIAA would get an injunction (or some such legal device) against the credit card companies so that VISA and Mastercard would not let US customers do business with AllofMP3.
I've used AllofMP3.com for nearly a year and I'm thrilled with them. They give me MP3s in the format I want (192kbps VBR MP3s) and they have old hard to find music (e.g. King Crimson - Discipline) that I can't get from other online services.
SIDEBAR: it was actually the fact that I couldn't fine old AC/DC and King Crimson albums that I wanted on iTunes that drove me to AllofMP3, not the fact that AllofMP3 is cheaper!
I don't need no stinkin wall paper! I need a real wi-fi encryption standard!
come on folks, 256 bit AES + diffie-helman key exchange or RSA public keys. The technology has been around so that all the relevant patents have expired.
What is your favorite reason for explaining why this hasn't been implemented yet?
(1) laziness
(2) Government conspiracy?
Internationally respected agency? cough sideways swinging cough
I saw the original AdT slander on yahoo via reuters (I think).
Can ESR or some other evangelist work to get an abridged version of AST's response on a major news wire?
While preaching to the slashdot and other choirs is fun, getting the story into the same channels that the AdT report was in would be more helpful.
yeah right! AllofMP3 has been in business for more than a year, RIAA is obviously aware of them yet RIAA not so much as whispers a threat to US ALLOFMP3 customers.
Go ahead, try googling 'allofmp3 RIAA' and see what you find. Go ahead, try contacting RIAA and ask them to comment on ALLOFMP3. RIAA can't do jack about ALLOFMP3 so their stragegy has been to be silent on the issue and hope nobody notices these websites (although I do expect they are lobbying to fix this problem)
these russian sites are obviously the biggest fish in the ocean with regards to distributing RIAA content. While RIAA may not be able to sue ALLOFMP3 in russia, it should be a trivial matter to get an injunction against VISA, MasterCard and Paypal so that these services won't allow U.S. customers to pay ALLOFMP3, if RIAA had a legal leg to stand on.
Of course if you frighten people away from ALLOFMP3 and that makes it easier for you and me to access the very busy ALLOFMP3 servers I guess that is OK
> They can't prosecute the distributers in the
> allofmp3 case because the people there are
> abiding to the laws in their country.
> It's a loophole.
Right. Just like U.S. courts can't procecute Nike for violations of U.S. labor laws that occur in indonesian factories.
Many a corporate fortune is based on so called loophole.
You use the word loophole as if there is some moral component to corporations. Corporations have no morals, just an overriding concern for increasing shareholder value. If a corporation thinks will, in the end, increase share holder value then they will do it.
it is a breath of fresh air to see a loophole that benefits the common man for a change rather than some billion dollar corporation. Don't worry though, I'm sure this situation will be rectified some time in the not too distant future.
allofMP3 has been around for more than a year. It is inconceivable that RIAA in unaware of them...
I challenge you to show me one instance of RIAA successfully procecuting someone for being a customer of allofMP3. Heck, forget the 'successful' part, just show me news of one case where RIAA is beating up on someone for buying and downloading music from allofmp3.com.
I've googled high and low for this and I can't find a thing.
Regarding your claim that "the artist gets squat": allofMP3 claims to be paying their R.O.M. licensing fees (similar to BMI fees paid to artists for radio broadcast). Perhaps they're lying but if not then the artists are being paid.
Sure, artists are getting _less_ but hey, wecome to the wonderful world of offshoring! Offshoring isn't just for saving big companies money on tech job salaries -- it is for RIAA's intellectual property too. Big business loves a 'race to the bottom' when it benefits them but when the globalism shoe gets put on their I.P. foot then you cry 'foul, unfair' eh?
... and other russian LEGAL services are conspicuously absent.
I have E2s and love them. I'm curious to see how their accuracy compares.
there are other russian music sites (mp3search.ru) but allofmp3.com is the best!
They have a much larger selection than iTunes + Napster put together (or so it seems to me) and, as previously mentioned, %80 (or more) of the songs allow you to select what format and bitrate you want to download them in.
> e.g. if one click shopping is patented, add a second step.
...
Suddenly, thousands of slashdot geniuses rush to file patents for
* 2 click shopping
* 3 click shopping
* 4 click shopping
* n click shopping
hah hah hah hah hah, all your clicks belong to us!
regarding "sniffing" -- you are missing the point!
What port knocking does is raise the cost of automated scanning of random internet machines.
the script kiddies who run the year 2004 equivalent of SATAN against a "phonebook" of ip addresses (or random ip addresses) will have a much tougher time.
sigh
Of course this should be a configurable preference option
My biggest fear with using a credit card is that given a CC # and some personal information, any merchant in the world can put charges on my card. Of course I can dispute the charges and get them reversed but this wastes my time and stresses me out (I've experienced internet credit card fraud a few times now).
Problems with Paypal not withstanding, their business idea is great:
they will not give a merchant money from my account unless someone with my password authorizes it.
This idea is so simple yet there are so few places I can pay like this. With Paypal I only have to worry about Paypal screwing me. With a credit card or CCBill or online checks or whatever I'm fair game for the whole thieving world!
Until online payment standards emerge that allow an EBay billpoint customer to send money to a Paypal customer (and vice versa) without having to open a Paypal account, Paypal is our best choice for online payment. I don't see standards like this emerging anytime soon. Consequently I think the best course of action is to try and bludgeon Paypal into becoming a better company. Write Paypal constructive letters. Write your newspaper to get them to do critical articles on Paypal's faults. Now that they are a public company they should be more sensitive to bad press.
BTW, I think Slashdot's subscription system is great. I wish Yahoo gave me this option! $5 for 1000 pages is a reasonable price.
Cheers,
Jonathan
can anyone find this uce@ftc.gov email documented on the FTC website? I can't ...
> Let me paraphrase: Microsoft has a patent on an
...
> OS that prevents a computer from booting
> anything but the "right OS" Seems to me this
> would do away with dual boot PCs rather nicely.
Hmmm, this sounds a little better
considering how general the patents that seem to be granted these days does Stallmans "The Right to Read" count as prior art?
l
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.htm
BTW, can we look at the "working example" of the DRM OS that must have accompanied the patent application?
yes, because they know that PGP is soon going to be outlawed (no keyescrow backdoor) so it would just be a waste of money to change infrastruture to use PGP simply to have to change this infrastructure in the near future.
> Now we see that the GPL's anti-patent stance appears to be trying to stifle this innovation unless the inventor
> consents to its terms, which would deprive the inventor of profit.
> A clearer example of the anti-innovative tendency of the free software movement could not be imagined.
yeah right. The GPL stifled the development of linux too.
As other folks have said, they could have chosen FreeBSD as their starting point. By your measure BSD should be light years ahead of linux because it has been around much longer and doesn't stifle innovation with an anti-patent license.
>Besides- who says the government CAN"T break them already? It probably just takes a bit more effort...
This posting to a "insightful 4" rating?!
The quoted text above shows you are either
1) a troll
2) don't know jack about crypto
It is generally accepted that no crypto is perfect. The point of crypto is to raise the cost of snooping.
Ignoring your specious reasoning for a moment, if we do assume that the government CAN break my crypo then they don't need outlaw escrowless crypto. (of course this argument has the same flaw as your statement...)
>The only thing that can ultimately defend against
>terrorism is signals intelligence --high tech. We
>have insanely high capabilities in this area and
>use them
How about the low tech solution of having a breach proof door protecting the cockpit?
It wouldn't be hard to have two secure door controlled from within the cockpit to prevent hijackers gaining control of the cockpit.
Combine this with a policy of NEVER opening the cockpit to hostiles NO MATTER WHAT and hijackings would disappear -- a hijacking simply degenerates to a typical hostage situation.
Why take hostages on an airplane (difficult to get past security) when you could take them at a shopping mall?