It happened before back in 1776. The Vietnamese also kicked the arse of the US Military. Now, you assume that the citizen soldiers of the US Military would actually turn on their own citizens, which is a bit of a stretch.
I'm not advocating revolution, I'd rather vote as right now I don't feel like my rights are threatened.
... why all of us supposed "gun-nuts" etc. keep firearms because we don't trust the government to preserve our natural rights...
I'm really just disgusted, because if this was a story about someone's "arsenal" being confiscated by the government, the slashdot crowd would be all against the person, denigrating his/her character and intentions.
Freedom isn't free, and if you're not willing to back up your freedoms with the threat of deadly force, you _will_ eventually have them taken away from you.
I chose North Korea because it's the only "true" Communist country left (out of the old-style insular statist countries). Even Cuba is opening up to tourism and foreign industry now. It seems that the scourge of capitalism has taken root in nearly every other place, leving me no choice but to pick North Korea as my example.
Besides, I am making my country a better place. I'm starting a business with a friend. Maybe, we'll provide jobs & healthcare to some deserving people someday (all while the founders make obscene profits).
You are free to go to a part of the world like North Korea and "unplug yourself" from this evil "Matrix" of capitalistic greed anytime you want to. You just have to leave your computer at home:^)
Does that include all of the inefficiencies introduced by the power grid, step-up, and step-down tranformers, etc.?
Nuclear power really seems to be the way to go here. The "elephant in the room" with electric power right now is the pollution produced by it and the crumbing infrastructure used to conduct it from the generator to the load.
In my experience, ACE is really nice, just stay away from TAO as it has little to no _good_ documentation (except for the doxygen stuff and the tutorials). I must say that I've been impressed with ACE though. Perfect for _real cross-platform coding_.
Nope, wrong. 9/11 was a byproduct of the U.S. showing weakness throughout the 1990's by having an inconsistent foreign policy that was ready to turn and run every time it had it's nose bloodied. Showing weakness to guys like UBL gave them the "green light". Peace through strength, baby.
Hmmm, I won't even haul in the fact that the UK, Russia, etc. all had contradictory intelligence to this and that Hussein had sheltered such nasties as Abu Nidal...
9/11 was a symptom of our failed Mid-East policies. Iraq was only the first step of correcting those failures.
Now, you know, a lot of the "rest of the world" isn't quite as paranoid about other people wanting to steal their stuff.
I don't know which world you live in, the world I live in is filled with people worried about having their "stuff" stolen. Maybe in Canada, due to your relative lack of population pressure and reliance on the United States for economic and military security, you can sit in an ivory tower and pretend this ain't so. Please remove your blinders.
No one else would talk about the current election with two parties, leaving out the name of the country and other details, and assume to be understood- but an American.
Bzzt, wrong! This person could just as easily be a Brit. The rest of the world has a _strong_ interest in what goes on in the last remaining superpower. Again, you're out of touch with reality.
Now, this is a crucial point: the US has been in decline now for some 30 years as an economic power. Your GDP goes up, but you people aren't any happier.
How does one benchmark "happiness"? Maybe the American citizens are unhappy at having to civilly deal with their snotty and patronising "neighbors" to the North.
People obviously ARE willing to contribute to things like wikipedia, distributed proofreaders, open source projects, peace brigades international, etc, etc... These things WORK.
Yeah, it's amazing that when people aren't straving or living hand to mouth, they have leisure time available to work on such things. But you're also forgetting the contributions that companies like IBM have made in time, money, and testing to large OSS projects like the linux kernel, in order to reap purely commercial benefits.
Ah, there you have it: as far as IP goes, we do have nearly unlimited production capacity.
Yes, except for the small problem of durability. The products we create, being ideas, are always being improved upon to the point of rapid obsolesence. This eats up large amounts of time in revising and updating said ideas (software, books, etc.) to keep up with latest and greatest tecnology.
Please tell me that this was a troll and not a serious attempt at argumentation. I'm awfully tired, so if it is a troll, have a hearty laugh at me.
Maybe not, but the things that are commoditized are no longer scarce. Operating system kernels, C compilers, web browsers, and word processors are no longer scarce because we have linux, gcc, mozilla, and open office.
Bzzt, wrong! Over 90% of the world still uses MS Office/Windows for their wordprocessing and operating system needs and is willing to pay for it. Therefore your point doesn't stand. Another thing which is forgotten about free software is that the time you spend setting it up, tweaking it, compiling your own kernel, etc. isn't free and that's why folks like RedHat, Suse, et. al. make _money_ by packaging up an "easy to use" system for the masses.
Free software is part of the free market, if one accepts that "time is money and money is time." The time you spend working with a relatively unpolished product like Gentoo Linux or the money you spend on a finished product like Suse are both investments of equivalent resources into a product from which you hope to improve your life or extract some gain.
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Only when you kindly do me the courtesy of reading my full reply...
How the hell do you know (without using hindsight like with the Marshall Plan) how the current and future expenditures will be allocated?
Please address this point. It still stands. Would you mind reading it this time?
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The American role in promoting Europe's recovery during these years extended far beyond the disbursement of aid. The ECA oversaw numerous projects, from the rebuilding of the Corinth canal by American contractors under the supervision of the Army Corps of Engineers to the modernization of mines in Turkey. In Trieste American technicians helped install U.S. equipment in an oil refinery.
I also find it interesting that in the middle of the effort to rebuild Iraq, you cry "We are giving too much money to corporations!" How the hell do you know (without using hindsight like with the Marshall Plan) how the current and future expenditures will be allocated?
What disturbs me is that you are not only out of touch with reality, but willing to attempt to warp your entire worldview, contrary to what evidence and reason might say, to accomodate your personal feelings about the value of corporate help in the rebuilding of Iraq.
I might respect you when you begin to think.
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Yeah, because without the Marshall Plan or the efforts of the Army of Occupation, Europe would be so well off today...
Ewww, Vonage... It just doesn't seem to work very well when downloading large files (even with traffic shaping). I returned mine because it seemed really half-baked.
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The parent post was one of the most insightful statements I've ever seen on
It happened before back in 1776. The Vietnamese also kicked the arse of the US Military. Now, you assume that the citizen soldiers of the US Military would actually turn on their own citizens, which is a bit of a stretch.
I'm not advocating revolution, I'd rather vote as right now I don't feel like my rights are threatened.
I am a programmer and I welcome this. I think that globalization will be the death knell of modern socialism and keep the reins on govt. regulation.
As an overtaxed citizen of these United States, I welcome this, even at the cost of my profession.
... why all of us supposed "gun-nuts" etc. keep firearms because we don't trust the government to preserve our natural rights...
I'm really just disgusted, because if this was a story about someone's "arsenal" being confiscated by the government, the slashdot crowd would be all against the person, denigrating his/her character and intentions.
Freedom isn't free, and if you're not willing to back up your freedoms with the threat of deadly force, you _will_ eventually have them taken away from you.
Go ahead, be the first to try. Just remember that you probably live in a country under the umbrella of defense funded by the US taxpayer.
I chose North Korea because it's the only "true" Communist country left (out of the old-style insular statist countries). Even Cuba is opening up to tourism and foreign industry now. It seems that the scourge of capitalism has taken root in nearly every other place, leving me no choice but to pick North Korea as my example.
Besides, I am making my country a better place. I'm starting a business with a friend. Maybe, we'll provide jobs & healthcare to some deserving people someday (all while the founders make obscene profits).
Peace and love to you.
You are free to go to a part of the world like North Korea and "unplug yourself" from this evil "Matrix" of capitalistic greed anytime you want to. You just have to leave your computer at home :^)
Does this mean that the Navy will go back to creating a.out binaries and libraries? I thought they only ran Window$ on their ships....
Does that include all of the inefficiencies introduced by the power grid, step-up, and step-down tranformers, etc.?
Nuclear power really seems to be the way to go here. The "elephant in the room" with electric power right now is the pollution produced by it and the crumbing infrastructure used to conduct it from the generator to the load.
In my experience, ACE is really nice, just stay away from TAO as it has little to no _good_ documentation (except for the doxygen stuff and the tutorials). I must say that I've been impressed with ACE though. Perfect for _real cross-platform coding_.
Nope, wrong. 9/11 was a byproduct of the U.S. showing weakness throughout the 1990's by having an inconsistent foreign policy that was ready to turn and run every time it had it's nose bloodied. Showing weakness to guys like UBL gave them the "green light". Peace through strength, baby.
Hmmm, I won't even haul in the fact that the UK, Russia, etc. all had contradictory intelligence to this and that Hussein had sheltered such nasties as Abu Nidal...
9/11 was a symptom of our failed Mid-East policies. Iraq was only the first step of correcting those failures.
*Reality Check*
Hey dickhead, the war was already fought in someone's hometown (NYC). I usually try to limit my ad hominem attacks, but this was flagrant.
Hopefully, you stay rooted to your terminal on election day. This will help you to avoid contamination by reality (i.e. "meatspace").
I don't know which world you live in, the world I live in is filled with people worried about having their "stuff" stolen. Maybe in Canada, due to your relative lack of population pressure and reliance on the United States for economic and military security, you can sit in an ivory tower and pretend this ain't so. Please remove your blinders.
No one else would talk about the current election with two parties, leaving out the name of the country and other details, and assume to be understood- but an American.Bzzt, wrong! This person could just as easily be a Brit. The rest of the world has a _strong_ interest in what goes on in the last remaining superpower. Again, you're out of touch with reality.
Now, this is a crucial point: the US has been in decline now for some 30 years as an economic power. Your GDP goes up, but you people aren't any happier.How does one benchmark "happiness"? Maybe the American citizens are unhappy at having to civilly deal with their snotty and patronising "neighbors" to the North.
People obviously ARE willing to contribute to things like wikipedia, distributed proofreaders, open source projects, peace brigades international, etc, etc... These things WORK.Yeah, it's amazing that when people aren't straving or living hand to mouth, they have leisure time available to work on such things. But you're also forgetting the contributions that companies like IBM have made in time, money, and testing to large OSS projects like the linux kernel, in order to reap purely commercial benefits.
Ah, there you have it: as far as IP goes, we do have nearly unlimited production capacity.Yes, except for the small problem of durability. The products we create, being ideas, are always being improved upon to the point of rapid obsolesence. This eats up large amounts of time in revising and updating said ideas (software, books, etc.) to keep up with latest and greatest tecnology.
Please tell me that this was a troll and not a serious attempt at argumentation. I'm awfully tired, so if it is a troll, have a hearty laugh at me.
Bzzt, wrong! Over 90% of the world still uses MS Office/Windows for their wordprocessing and operating system needs and is willing to pay for it. Therefore your point doesn't stand. Another thing which is forgotten about free software is that the time you spend setting it up, tweaking it, compiling your own kernel, etc. isn't free and that's why folks like RedHat, Suse, et. al. make _money_ by packaging up an "easy to use" system for the masses.
Free software is part of the free market, if one accepts that "time is money and money is time." The time you spend working with a relatively unpolished product like Gentoo Linux or the money you spend on a finished product like Suse are both investments of equivalent resources into a product from which you hope to improve your life or extract some gain.
Which is fine with me as most idiots don't know how to correctly setup an SMTP server correctly.
Think of it as raising the bar for providing this oft-abused service.
... or in their socks!
+(inifinity) thinks I'm an insufferable wanker.
I think that would be the one I'd use most.
Only when you kindly do me the courtesy of reading my full reply...
How the hell do you know (without using hindsight like with the Marshall Plan) how the current and future expenditures will be allocated?
Please address this point. It still stands. Would you mind reading it this time?
The American role in promoting Europe's recovery during these years extended far beyond the disbursement of aid. The ECA oversaw numerous projects, from the rebuilding of the Corinth canal by American contractors under the supervision of the Army Corps of Engineers to the modernization of mines in Turkey. In Trieste American technicians helped install U.S. equipment in an oil refinery.
SourceI also find it interesting that in the middle of the effort to rebuild Iraq, you cry "We are giving too much money to corporations!" How the hell do you know (without using hindsight like with the Marshall Plan) how the current and future expenditures will be allocated?
What disturbs me is that you are not only out of touch with reality, but willing to attempt to warp your entire worldview, contrary to what evidence and reason might say, to accomodate your personal feelings about the value of corporate help in the rebuilding of Iraq.
I might respect you when you begin to think.
Yeah, because without the Marshall Plan or the efforts of the Army of Occupation, Europe would be so well off today...
Wake up to reality.
Ewww, Vonage... It just doesn't seem to work very well when downloading large files (even with traffic shaping). I returned mine because it seemed really half-baked.
Oh no! Flashback to the Village People!!! "In the Navy...."
I've personally seen the look in a kid's eyes when they get up close to something enormous ...
I think we just found Michael Jackson's Slashdot ID!!! *rimshot*