No. Giving students a RECIEPT for their purchases and then, if the parent gives a damn, telling the kid "show me a reciept for your school lunch today" is a parent watching their kid.
If it helps the parents keep track of what their kid ate, then go for the survelance system. A kid will not keep his reciept. Plus, what is to stop the kids from spending $2 bucks on a healthy sandwhich that he throws away, then another $2 on a soda and chips that he eats?
If all kids had the cards, then the parents would know where the money is going.
Plus, with that kind of technology, the parents can have certain foods "off-limits". It would not take much work to flag certain kinds of foods in the database.
And if there was a kid who was willing to cheat, because his parents did not care, and use his card to buy junk food for others, the system could flag his account. There is no reason a kid would buy three bags of chips, or three slices of pie.
Yeah, because fat kids are always the troublemakers and the skinny kids are always quiet, obedient angels
You must be young and uneducated. It is basic biology. Some "skinny" people burn insane amounts of calories, they can eat three big burgers and an extra large milkshake and it all gets burned off before they take their first crap. It is called metabolism. Fat kids can watch what they eat, and the first "seconds" they have goes on the hips.
There is something called the krebs cycle in the body. It takes glucose and breaks it down to ATP. You have too much glucose in the system, and you WILL become nervous and restless. You will become a distraction.
Body size has very little to do with it. But what the school sells in the aggregate does. If everyone ate healthier, then everyone as a whole might be 4% less heavy at the end of the year.
School is a public place. Parents (whose money is being spent) probably do have the right to know how that money is spent, and if it brings to light that a child is being bullied out of lunch-money sooner, that can't be anything other than a good thing.
But I worry about the seeds being sown, and the harvest we will reap. When a child is constantly being placed under surveillance in different circumstances, and knowingly so, it will tend towards the 'norm' of that child's cultural world. It will become accepted rather than questioned - what are the benefits? What are the costs? Is it worth it ? I fear for a future when the question is not 'why are we under surveillance?', but 'why are you not watching out for XXX?'.
"They" (and by 'they', I mean 'we') are sucking the lifeblood out of personal freedom, one pinprick and one drop of blood at a time. More and more freedom is being just handed over, and the responsibility that went with that freedom dies a little too. Without the responsibility for actions taken, there is no choice in life - welcome to the herd mentality, and kiss goodbye to that magnificence of spirit - individuality.
Quite a leap from telling parents about their childrens lunching habits, but as Francis Xavier said "Give me the children until they are seven and anyone may have them afterwards". Young minds are receptive minds, and missionaries tend to understand indoctrination better than most.
School is becomming more of a pressure cooker, and more kids will crack. And it is not because of academics, but because a kid can't be a kid anymore.
What is a parent supposed to do? The parent wants to teach their kid a set of values. The school has lobbyists who change the curriculum so the school is teaching sex education to 6th graders. Then the gay actavists get involved and want to teach tolerance. So much for taking the kid to church and trying to teach them good values.
While I think watching what a kid eats is smart, you don't want them living off funions and cola, I think that other aspects of the school should be relaxed. A friend has a kid brother, and his school is sending home a form everynight, with all the homework listed on it, and the parent must sign the form saying they made their kids do it. If the parent does not sign the form, the kid gets in trouble. If the parent signs the form and the kid did not do the homework, the school labels the parent as irresponsible. Did you hear about the school that is forcing kids to read books over summer vacation?
Why can't schools be what they were meant to be? Teach kids the three r's, reading, writing, and arithmetic. Get rid of all the other BS. Force parents to pay a % of the costs for educating their kid, so they know how much of a burden it is on property tax.
Schools ought to provide lunches for all children. The current situation where some kids get subsidized lunches while others bring their own lunches is one more method of separating children into castes within the school and that, in turn, leads to animosity.
This logic is full of crap. So because your poor and nasty, I should force my kid to eat the same crap instead of making a nice healthy lunch, a healthy sandwhich that has big peices of green pepper sticking out?? That will make my kid cooler.
Pssst... you got the mots? Who's got the mots?
LOL.
There is no caste system based on food. There is a caste system based on coolness. Why not have all the retards placed in honors classes, so the honors kids don't get picked on??
Public schooling is free
Public school is not free. Tell that to land owners when the property tax bill comes.
Why not have parents pay for their kids education. Why should the community pay for all kids, when half will become auto mechanics or learn a trade? Schools from K through 6th grade are just baby sitters. 8th grade to 12th grade teaches academics needed for college, but not everyone needs to go. It would be better to have kids at age 15 enter a trade, work for 2 years, and then start living a life where they make money. And eliminate elementary school. Why do we pay someone with an EdD $80k for 9 months work, to babysit kids.
Do you know how many people go to college, because it is what everyone does?? They get $20k or $30k in debt, and have no trade at age 21. The other way, to teach these kids a trade at 15 or 16, have them start working at 17 making $15 an hour, they will make $30k a year. That is $120k made, plus the $30k tuition saved. The kid would have a $150k house at age 21. Not bad!!
The cost to feed a handful of students is only marginally cheaper than feeding all the students and a school district can fully feed all the children in any school by prioritizing expenses.
You've never met a teachers union? They are the #1 prioroty. They want to make over $100,000 each, and they will go on strike if you don't pay them. Then NO kids get schooling.
The best way to break the teachers union is to make parents pay for their kids education. Then parents will say to the teachers "If 45k a year is not enough, which is what everyone in the neighborhood makes, and you want to go on strike, fine, go on strike and we will vote to fire all of you".
This is a great idea. We all know how well things usually turn out when personal information about underage students is put online by their school district
I am normally the first one to yell MOTHERFUCKER when government takes a right away (like installing 3000 camera's in chicago so the police can watch everyone, all the time, and have it recorded). But this is not government, this is a parent watching what their kid is eating.
Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised if more than 50% of the students' parents don't pay for their lunches and they are on a reduced/free lunch program funded by tax-payers.
This is easy. If MY tax money is feeding the kids they get NO CHOICE. I want to pick what they eat. Nothing but carrots and soy milk. Why should a taxpayer give his money for a kid to eat greasy fries that will make him 50 pounds overweight, so when the kid becomes a 40 year old, taxpayers will once again have to pay for his high blood pressure medicine??
I would go one step further. Fund a study which asks "What kinds of food are good for the brain". Then feed them that. I would bet anyone that a healthy diet can raise the IQ by 10 points. I would bet half the ADD (attention disorders) and behavioral problems are related to diet. You get a kid filled with junk food, no vitamins, and too much sugar, and they act like little monkeys jumping out of their pants.
You have to teach students to eat well before you can expect them to eat well.
This is BS. When I was 10 I knew what was "healthy food", and I would pick McDonalds over it every day of the week and twice on sundays. I was young, but the commercials were really cool, McDonalds was a popular place, and I liked their food. Plus, you could get toys there.
No matter what a parent teaches their kid, it is hard to make the lesson stick when McDonalds has a commercial on TV every half hour telling your kids the exact opposite.
There is so much that can not be done with a PG movie. Everyone spazed because the Star Wars Sith flick was rated PG-13.
Imagine what could be done with an R Indy movie. We could examine more of Indy's character. Instead of the bedroom doors closing, and the next scene being in the morning, we could see how Indy negotiates the night away. Imagine seeing Indy in a hot tub with two big hooters in his face. And he gets the girl because he is a nerd, he gets the girl because he talks to her about archeology.
Or better yet, maybe the next Indy flick will have Indy's busty young daughter, who just turned 18 and went on her first excovation. Imagine the possibilities.
Being a Star Wars fan as well as an Indiana Jones fan, I am of the opinion that Harrison Ford has been one of the best actors recent movies have seen. Though I suppose it could be debated that he's a bit old for the role, I'm still quite happy to see this!
The great thing about the Indy character is his smarts. Half the time he gets out of trouble because he thinks his way out, not because he uses force. Can Sean Connery play James Bond today? I think he could. Can Ford play Indy, I think he can.
I can't wait for Indy 4, the previous movies were awesome.
Indy is like MacGyver on steroids.
Lets just hope they get a good script, a good story, one that gets the intellect and imagination flowing together. Those movies are so rare.
I wonder how many people went into history or archeology because of the Indy movies?
Most people waste their early lives. Genius is genetic. Smart people were born that way. But most smart people now have to live in a society where schools teach sex education, and ever interest group is adding to the curriculum, trying to form a lasting opinion by introducing topics at a young age. We don't teach history, we teach how discrimination is wrong.
Schools should be hammering away the three R's... reading, writing, and arithmatic.
Instead, kids are in college learning what should be taught in highschool. The class names might stay the same, but the curriculum has changed.
And dare I say, class size has something to do with it? If a smart kid is in a class of 15, they will have more time to ask questions than if they are burried in a class of 35.
The smart kids will keep reading later in life. They will spend much effort undoing the teaching society forced on them. And eventually, they will make their great discovories; just later in life.
Greed affects all people the same way. Power will currupt. The 3000 square foot house seems small compared with the new 4500 square foot house next door. Yet, somehow, the people in the 1960's seems to live very comfortably and happily in 1000 square foot homes. Power works much in the same way.
The problem is greed becomes institutionalized within families. A family such as the Bush family, they need power to hide what they have done in the past.
Will the day come when they will decide being president is not enough? The 10000 square foot house is feeling constricting, more is wanted. What about power? Is the presidence not enough?
So if someone exploits a security hole in.NET they can take my identity?
If we have a system where everyone is tracked, through databases, camera's, RFID in cars, fingerprints in libraries, and a future dna database, think about the abuse?
Someone hacks the government servers, and puts in data, data that says you are a terrorist, a dangerous terrorist with knowledge of how to build bombs.
You, of course, are just an avarage joe who is walking to the local park to read Invisible Man. Next thing you know, a van hits you on the sidewalk, and you're dead. The driver is not just some old man who lost control. He is an old man who appears to have lost control.
I can't help but wonder, if Joe Mccarthy was alive, if Bush would nominate him to be Director of Homeland Security? The technology we have today is what he was missing to acomplish his goals. If he had todays technology, he could have killed the people who complained, before they got organized. Just find out who is reading the "banned" books, and execute them. Of course, the USA will never pull a book off a library shelf. They will just monitor who reads it.
They make a system just secure enough to track 90% of the users, the avarage mom and pop. They use that data to figure out how much they can get away with... how much patriotic swell there is in redneck america.
They make the system just insecure enough to let hackers get in, to let disasters strike. They use that as justification for more intrusive forms of government control.
Is it possible that governments aim here is not to make a system that is unhackable? Maybe they want it to fail, as a prelude to enslavement?
This is why computers suck. They will no longer be an aide to your life, no longer making life simpler and easier. Computers will now be used to track you, identify you. You are already probably in some government index with a score of how much of a threat you are. Check out Lenin from the library, your score goes up. Join the wrong chats, your score goes up.
Remember, this is the same government that tapped the phones of the Black Panthers in the 1960's, arrested innocent people, killed innocent people, overthrew the democratically elected president of Chile. Our government stinks with evil.
I just have one question. Did ANYONE read the patriot act?
What if I want to read a book by Lenin, and not let anyone know that I have read his book? It seems that will be more difficult to do in the future. If I read it at the library, they have my fingerprint scan. If I buy it from the downtown borders, the police camera can look inside to see what books I have. If I somehow sneak the book home, and read it, then want to discuss it on the internet, they can find me.
This reminds me of Ray Bradbury, only far more sinister, with a splash of Orwell tossed in. My dear God, how dumb is the american populace? Has the smartest 5%, the ones that run the entertainment industries, the news, the companies, has the smartest 5% of the people sold their souls for more money?
spies are more likely to do industrial espionage compared to spying on gov'ts. it is apparently a lot easier to get info from companies about gov't plans (through contracts, ect) than trying to spy on the NSA or CIA
Israel has employed many methods of espionage, but the worst is using our own politicians to help them. Our politicians turn the back, and look the other way. What would the USA do if Syria stole USA secrets for making missiles? There would be an uproar, calls for sanctions, and planning an attack.
The USA has been selling fighter jets and bombs to Israel for a long time now. But that is not enough for Israel, they steal our secrets too.
I think Israel is the reason for all the problems in the world. All muslims hate them for good reason. And everyone else gets pulled in this war.
these are private monopolies forcing their services on cities.
if the city administered these programs, they would be free. let me repeat that, they would be free.
since republicans started forcing cities to buy services from companies, rather than provide the service themselves, the price has increased.
look at property taxes. they used to include garbage pickup service. now my city requires pre-paid stickers for each bag of garbage to be picked up.
as for internet wireless, the cost is free right now. let me repeat that, free. if a city office needs the internet, they can put the wireless router on so anyone can use it. most cities have multiple city buildings with internet access. in my city, we have the police department on one side, the fire department on the other, the city administraion buildings elsewhere. there is a library in the middle, and a county health building. if all these offices opened up their wi-fi, everyone in my city would be no more than a 10 minute stroll to an access point.
it is the same thing with phones. why do we pay so much money for something that should cost nothing? all the phone lines are established. it does not cost very much to maintain them. where does the money go? how many millions of dollars go to executives? how many millions of dollars go to less than a dozen people?
the anwser is for the people to take control of their city. buisnesses have infultrated city government, and there are more lies than the 2am infomercial promising you wealth through real estate.
i think everyone with over 1 million dollars is a traitor, they stole it from employees. they should all be hanged. i am rooting for the terrorists. they are targeting the centers of power, and i know that will never be me or my kind. we're only good for minimum wage.
Because, of course, little old Grandma is a crack shot - absolutely no chance she'd hit another passenger, no sir - and Joe Sixpack is an expert at dealing with hostage situations.
Your idea is perfect. Just perfect. It will deal wonderfully with the situation where the terrorists have barricaded themselves in the toilet with a bomb, for example. It has no flaws in the situation where the first thing anyone knows is that three terrorists all have guns pressed against kids' temples. And when some paranoid nut goes mad on a plane and starts thinking the stewardesses are terrorists, well, thank God he'll be armed! And their families will all stand up at their funerals to bless John Seminal of Slashdot for his wonderful plan.
You have little faith in people. I trust 90% of the people to be responsible with guns. The other 10% will be taken care of by the 90%.
Let me tell you, that redneck probably can deal with terrorists damn well. It is like trying to square dance with a rattlesnake, I'm tellin ya!
I can just hear the music.
Now grab your partner by the beard
Pull real hard he's just a dear.
Now give him alcohol
he'll like a beer.
And some BBQ pork
Its a jamboree.
Now if that muslim is a bit dirty
Whop his ass so God can see.
Seriously. The point is if 3 terrorists come on an airplane with guns, yet of the other 200 passengers 45 have guns. How the hell will the terrorists know who they are? And if the shooting starts, I am pretty sure it will end with three dead terrorists. Grandma ain't missing with all 6 bullets.
If the law abiding people don't have guns, the terrorists will find ways to bring other weapons on the airplane. Then what does everyone do?
Everyone should be able to have a gun anywhere. The only people who don't carry guns are the ones who obey the law. The ones who carry guns are the criminals. Do you see why this is bad??
Bankruptcy does indeed have the potential to affect federal loans if you apply for it a certain time past the last point in time that the loan was still in good standing (could be anything from 5 years to 10 years, depending where you live). In particular, if the bankruptcy court determines that based on your current economic circumstances, repaying the loan would cause "undue hardship", up to 100% of the loan can be forgiven at that point. Honest. No fooling. Really. If it's been more than 10 years since a loan was last in good standing and a person has no forseeable way to repay this loan, they should see a debt/bankruptcy advisor to discuss their options.
The law was changed a few years back. I think your reffering to the laws in the 1970's and 80's.
Bankrupcy can no longer take off federally gaurneteed loans, like school loans.
The debt stays for life. And what is worse, they can add on outrageous collection fee's.
It can be 30 years later, and they can keep trying to collect. To take all your land. To garnish your wages. To take your property.
If you know of a way to have a student loan that was gaurenteed by the USA government taken off through bankrupcy, many would love to hear it.
Back to the X-Rays. It's like driving. Everyone thinks they should have the RIGHT to drive. It's not a right people, it's a privilege. Flying is the same thing. You don't have to fly. If one of the rules to fly is you get X-rayed, so be it....
Soon, using community oxygen will be a privilege. Don't like it? Don't breath.
The point is, the USA used to be a principled nation. We valued ideas, like "no searches without a warrent", now we have searches without any judiciary approval (look at the patriot act).
Did you know that some sections of the patriot act are not even public? It is illegal to talk about some of the laws passed?
If government can pull someone off the street, throw them in jail, and not charge them with any crime, we have a HUGE problem.
You just don't care about other people. You figure fuck it, government is not after me. You remind me of the Jews in Germany. When hitler went for them, there was nobody left to hear their cries for help.
But you lot will take it lying down just like you do with everything else.
You will get modded down as a troll, even though you have a point.
It is one of the scariest things I see happening in the USA. People are bloodthirsty to do what the republicans want, like the left is filled with treasonous traitors.
Politicians are doing everything they can to associate emotions with a catch pharse. This kind of strategy stops people from thinking. You ever see a big southern redneck get a tear in his eye when showing off how patriotic he is?? You can't tell someone like that how wrong government is with WMD in Iraq or anything. They look at their fellow citizen as the problem, not the lies that were told to us by government.
I wonder if this is what Germany was like when Hitler sold his pack of propaganda? "We're the best country in the world" and "We know what's best for everyone else, we need to remove these dictators".
Presumably this will be called "Debbie Does Dulles"? And terrorists can no longer wear thick clothes to disguise weapons- people will see through that straight away!
You should become a writer for Family Guy. It is exactly the kind of stuff they use. Most people wouldn't get half of what is packed in those 2 sentences. Most won't get what Dulles is (or who he is). Most won't get what he did while working for Eisenhower. If someone does figure out it is an airport in DC, that is about all I would expect. And Debbie, man that was the first porn I saw as a kid. I loved it. And a Texan. LOL. Add in the weapons joke.
Dude, that was one of the most gifted and funniest posts I have seen on Slashdot. It was insightful, and most people will not get it.
The police will never keep all contra ban off airplanes. The good guys will follow the law. The bad guys will keep trying to get stuff on the airplane that is illegal. Look at the supermax prision in California. They had a show on TV about how an inmate made a knife from a tooth brush by shaving the hard plastic against the concrete floor of his cell. He used that tooth brush knife to kill another inmate.
What we should do is open up the airplanes for anyone to fly, without background checks, without any searches (except looking for bombs). Send the dogs through the luggage holding section. I would feel safe, those dogs are good.
Let me take a gun on an airplane. Let Joe Sixpack take his shotgun on an airplane. Let the little old grandmother pack a glock in her purse. Nobody will know who is armed. If some terrorist decides to hijack the airplane, they will get blown away. They won't even know what direction the shot will come from.
I know what most are saying, shoot a gun on an airplane and you could blow out a wall.
There are things that can be done to stop this from happening. Force airplanes to have steel reinforced doors to the cockpit, and to keep sections seperate. What reason does someone from coach have going in first class? Throw up some locked steel doors. If one section gets blown open, the plane can still land. Second, have a good steel skeleton, so even if all the walls come down, the plane can land. And bolt the chairs down.
If the airplane has a steel skeloton, and all the chairs are bolted, nobody will get sucked out. And since the blow out will only affect one section, the other 4 sections of the airplane will be unaffected. The pilot will land as quick as possible. It will be a bit scary, but everyone will survive. And that is the worst case scenereo. If airplanes limit guns to.22's, it will still be enough to kill a person but it won't blow a hole in anything.
Have you seen regular people in society? like 1/3 of people are overweight and many people are OLD..... yeah it would be nice when a euro female soccer team comes thru but UGH I would not want to see the normal 40something soccer MOM (or dad)!
Do you know how many websites there are that are exclusive content for mature women, or grandpa's fucking? You might not like the scooer mom, but check out how many MILF websites there are. Lots of people like these 30-50 year old women in pantyhose.
Don't be suprised if these x-ray naked pictures make it to the web. If someone can steal Star Wars Revenge of the Sith, before it made it to theaters, then someone will get these pics on the web.
Look, there are plenty of other modes of transportation. Trains, cars, boats. If I have to go through an X-ray to make flights safe, so be it. If someone is going to get off on X-rated X-rays. So be it.
The problem is, whatever they implement with airplanes will later be implemented with trains and other forms of transportation.
What if someone wants to get lost? To start over? It will be less possible with the loss of privacy?
I'll give you one example. A person turns 18, and goes off to college. He is not that smart, but family pressure for a good job pushes him into college. He somehow passes some of the easier classes, cheating, copying, buying reports. He gets a C in english, a C in history, a A in a PE activity class, a F in science. That allows him to come back for another year. But the next year, his classes get smaller, he now is getting F's in just about everything. Three years later, he is dismissed from the university, $30,000 in debt to federal loans. During the same time, he runs up his credit cards. He finds out the federal loans stay for life, there is no bankrupcy. To top it off, the credit card debts keep getting sold, and that is reported as activity, so the 7 year limit keeps getting reset.
This guy can't get a good job, his grades are crap, and he realizes that he was born to be a mechanic working for $11 bucks an hour. He is happy that he has something better than working for $7 an hour in McDonalds.
It is not enough to live well, but with a roomate an apartment becomes possible. Food is cheap fare. There is nothing left over. If he gets sick and can't work, he will be thrown on the street.
Now he starts getting letters from the government threatening throwing him in jail, having his paycheck garnished, all sorts of nasty stuff.
So what does he do? He wants to move to a different city, pick a different identity. It should not matter, he is working for little pay. He figures a mechanic is needed everwhere, people need their cars fixed.
These new laws will screw him. What if everytime he wants to take a train they ask for a fingerprint (like a library in naperville is doing)? What if Congress passes a national ID act? He won't be able to live.
The city of boston started with 1000 camera's for the convention, promising it was only for the convention, then deciding to keep them.
The city of chicago followed next, installing 3000 camera's. They can look inside cars. They can tell if you're smoking a joint. They can tell if you're talking to a prostitute.
The city of naperville is installing fingerprint machines in order for people to use the library.
The United States Congress is pushing for a national ID card, with biometrics.
Lets face it, people will soon be tracked, it will be impossible to just slip into a city. The police will know who you are and where you are at all times.
They will soon take your DNA, without your agreement. Anyone hear about DNA dragnets being used in towns? And it is easy for them to get it. They pull you over in your car, they take you down to the station with a bogus charge. They take your picture and fingerprints. They then tell you, we'll we made a mistake, sorry, you're free to go. And as you leave, they vacum up the hair that fell out off your head. Now they have all the information, and there is nothing you can do about it.
So what if they can see you naked? Big deal. That should be the least of your worries, that Officer Friendly can see your wee-wee. What would worry me more is he can keep a tab on what your reading at the library.
Databases are here to stay, and in the future your whole life will exist in a database, somewhere.
It sucks, but that is the preperation for the revolution. If you're not willing to work 50 hours a week just to cover your rent, you will be labled a terrorist. Cuba is waiting for all who complain.
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If it helps the parents keep track of what their kid ate, then go for the survelance system. A kid will not keep his reciept. Plus, what is to stop the kids from spending $2 bucks on a healthy sandwhich that he throws away, then another $2 on a soda and chips that he eats?
If all kids had the cards, then the parents would know where the money is going.
Plus, with that kind of technology, the parents can have certain foods "off-limits". It would not take much work to flag certain kinds of foods in the database.
And if there was a kid who was willing to cheat, because his parents did not care, and use his card to buy junk food for others, the system could flag his account. There is no reason a kid would buy three bags of chips, or three slices of pie.
Yeah, because fat kids are always the troublemakers and the skinny kids are always quiet, obedient angels
You must be young and uneducated. It is basic biology. Some "skinny" people burn insane amounts of calories, they can eat three big burgers and an extra large milkshake and it all gets burned off before they take their first crap. It is called metabolism. Fat kids can watch what they eat, and the first "seconds" they have goes on the hips.
There is something called the krebs cycle in the body. It takes glucose and breaks it down to ATP. You have too much glucose in the system, and you WILL become nervous and restless. You will become a distraction.
Body size has very little to do with it. But what the school sells in the aggregate does. If everyone ate healthier, then everyone as a whole might be 4% less heavy at the end of the year.
But I worry about the seeds being sown, and the harvest we will reap. When a child is constantly being placed under surveillance in different circumstances, and knowingly so, it will tend towards the 'norm' of that child's cultural world. It will become accepted rather than questioned - what are the benefits? What are the costs? Is it worth it ? I fear for a future when the question is not 'why are we under surveillance?', but 'why are you not watching out for XXX?'.
"They" (and by 'they', I mean 'we') are sucking the lifeblood out of personal freedom, one pinprick and one drop of blood at a time. More and more freedom is being just handed over, and the responsibility that went with that freedom dies a little too. Without the responsibility for actions taken, there is no choice in life - welcome to the herd mentality, and kiss goodbye to that magnificence of spirit - individuality.
Quite a leap from telling parents about their childrens lunching habits, but as Francis Xavier said "Give me the children until they are seven and anyone may have them afterwards". Young minds are receptive minds, and missionaries tend to understand indoctrination better than most.
School is becomming more of a pressure cooker, and more kids will crack. And it is not because of academics, but because a kid can't be a kid anymore.
What is a parent supposed to do? The parent wants to teach their kid a set of values. The school has lobbyists who change the curriculum so the school is teaching sex education to 6th graders. Then the gay actavists get involved and want to teach tolerance. So much for taking the kid to church and trying to teach them good values.
While I think watching what a kid eats is smart, you don't want them living off funions and cola, I think that other aspects of the school should be relaxed. A friend has a kid brother, and his school is sending home a form everynight, with all the homework listed on it, and the parent must sign the form saying they made their kids do it. If the parent does not sign the form, the kid gets in trouble. If the parent signs the form and the kid did not do the homework, the school labels the parent as irresponsible. Did you hear about the school that is forcing kids to read books over summer vacation?
What do schools hope to accomplis? Teachers have never been paid more, many get over $100,000 a year for 9 months of work. Check out http://www.thechampion.org/teach2004/avgteachersal .asp
Why can't schools be what they were meant to be? Teach kids the three r's, reading, writing, and arithmetic. Get rid of all the other BS. Force parents to pay a % of the costs for educating their kid, so they know how much of a burden it is on property tax.
This logic is full of crap. So because your poor and nasty, I should force my kid to eat the same crap instead of making a nice healthy lunch, a healthy sandwhich that has big peices of green pepper sticking out?? That will make my kid cooler.
Pssst... you got the mots? Who's got the mots?
LOL.
There is no caste system based on food. There is a caste system based on coolness. Why not have all the retards placed in honors classes, so the honors kids don't get picked on??
Public schooling is free
Public school is not free. Tell that to land owners when the property tax bill comes.
Why not have parents pay for their kids education. Why should the community pay for all kids, when half will become auto mechanics or learn a trade? Schools from K through 6th grade are just baby sitters. 8th grade to 12th grade teaches academics needed for college, but not everyone needs to go. It would be better to have kids at age 15 enter a trade, work for 2 years, and then start living a life where they make money. And eliminate elementary school. Why do we pay someone with an EdD $80k for 9 months work, to babysit kids.
Do you know how many people go to college, because it is what everyone does?? They get $20k or $30k in debt, and have no trade at age 21. The other way, to teach these kids a trade at 15 or 16, have them start working at 17 making $15 an hour, they will make $30k a year. That is $120k made, plus the $30k tuition saved. The kid would have a $150k house at age 21. Not bad!!
The cost to feed a handful of students is only marginally cheaper than feeding all the students and a school district can fully feed all the children in any school by prioritizing expenses.
You've never met a teachers union? They are the #1 prioroty. They want to make over $100,000 each, and they will go on strike if you don't pay them. Then NO kids get schooling.
The best way to break the teachers union is to make parents pay for their kids education. Then parents will say to the teachers "If 45k a year is not enough, which is what everyone in the neighborhood makes, and you want to go on strike, fine, go on strike and we will vote to fire all of you".
I am normally the first one to yell MOTHERFUCKER when government takes a right away (like installing 3000 camera's in chicago so the police can watch everyone, all the time, and have it recorded). But this is not government, this is a parent watching what their kid is eating.
Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised if more than 50% of the students' parents don't pay for their lunches and they are on a reduced/free lunch program funded by tax-payers.
This is easy. If MY tax money is feeding the kids they get NO CHOICE. I want to pick what they eat. Nothing but carrots and soy milk. Why should a taxpayer give his money for a kid to eat greasy fries that will make him 50 pounds overweight, so when the kid becomes a 40 year old, taxpayers will once again have to pay for his high blood pressure medicine??
I would go one step further. Fund a study which asks "What kinds of food are good for the brain". Then feed them that. I would bet anyone that a healthy diet can raise the IQ by 10 points. I would bet half the ADD (attention disorders) and behavioral problems are related to diet. You get a kid filled with junk food, no vitamins, and too much sugar, and they act like little monkeys jumping out of their pants.
You have to teach students to eat well before you can expect them to eat well.
This is BS. When I was 10 I knew what was "healthy food", and I would pick McDonalds over it every day of the week and twice on sundays. I was young, but the commercials were really cool, McDonalds was a popular place, and I liked their food. Plus, you could get toys there.
No matter what a parent teaches their kid, it is hard to make the lesson stick when McDonalds has a commercial on TV every half hour telling your kids the exact opposite.
Imagine what could be done with an R Indy movie. We could examine more of Indy's character. Instead of the bedroom doors closing, and the next scene being in the morning, we could see how Indy negotiates the night away. Imagine seeing Indy in a hot tub with two big hooters in his face. And he gets the girl because he is a nerd, he gets the girl because he talks to her about archeology.
Or better yet, maybe the next Indy flick will have Indy's busty young daughter, who just turned 18 and went on her first excovation. Imagine the possibilities.
The great thing about the Indy character is his smarts. Half the time he gets out of trouble because he thinks his way out, not because he uses force. Can Sean Connery play James Bond today? I think he could. Can Ford play Indy, I think he can.
I can't wait for Indy 4, the previous movies were awesome.
Indy is like MacGyver on steroids.
Lets just hope they get a good script, a good story, one that gets the intellect and imagination flowing together. Those movies are so rare.
I wonder how many people went into history or archeology because of the Indy movies?
I disagree, I think people get smarter in their 30's and are capable of doing more intellectual work in their 30's than 20's.
Schools should be hammering away the three R's... reading, writing, and arithmatic.
Instead, kids are in college learning what should be taught in highschool. The class names might stay the same, but the curriculum has changed.
And dare I say, class size has something to do with it? If a smart kid is in a class of 15, they will have more time to ask questions than if they are burried in a class of 35.
The smart kids will keep reading later in life. They will spend much effort undoing the teaching society forced on them. And eventually, they will make their great discovories; just later in life.
Not GWB, but a Bush. :-)
Greed affects all people the same way. Power will currupt. The 3000 square foot house seems small compared with the new 4500 square foot house next door. Yet, somehow, the people in the 1960's seems to live very comfortably and happily in 1000 square foot homes. Power works much in the same way.
The problem is greed becomes institutionalized within families. A family such as the Bush family, they need power to hide what they have done in the past.
Will the day come when they will decide being president is not enough? The 10000 square foot house is feeling constricting, more is wanted. What about power? Is the presidence not enough?
Explain to me exactly how they got me to fund a system that is detrimental to my freedom?
If we have a system where everyone is tracked, through databases, camera's, RFID in cars, fingerprints in libraries, and a future dna database, think about the abuse?
Someone hacks the government servers, and puts in data, data that says you are a terrorist, a dangerous terrorist with knowledge of how to build bombs.
You, of course, are just an avarage joe who is walking to the local park to read Invisible Man. Next thing you know, a van hits you on the sidewalk, and you're dead. The driver is not just some old man who lost control. He is an old man who appears to have lost control.
I can't help but wonder, if Joe Mccarthy was alive, if Bush would nominate him to be Director of Homeland Security? The technology we have today is what he was missing to acomplish his goals. If he had todays technology, he could have killed the people who complained, before they got organized. Just find out who is reading the "banned" books, and execute them. Of course, the USA will never pull a book off a library shelf. They will just monitor who reads it.
They make the system just insecure enough to let hackers get in, to let disasters strike. They use that as justification for more intrusive forms of government control.
Is it possible that governments aim here is not to make a system that is unhackable? Maybe they want it to fail, as a prelude to enslavement?
This is why computers suck. They will no longer be an aide to your life, no longer making life simpler and easier. Computers will now be used to track you, identify you. You are already probably in some government index with a score of how much of a threat you are. Check out Lenin from the library, your score goes up. Join the wrong chats, your score goes up.
Remember, this is the same government that tapped the phones of the Black Panthers in the 1960's, arrested innocent people, killed innocent people, overthrew the democratically elected president of Chile. Our government stinks with evil.
Libraries are now requiring finger prints.
Chicago installed 3000 camera's.
And now this...
I just have one question. Did ANYONE read the patriot act?
What if I want to read a book by Lenin, and not let anyone know that I have read his book? It seems that will be more difficult to do in the future. If I read it at the library, they have my fingerprint scan. If I buy it from the downtown borders, the police camera can look inside to see what books I have. If I somehow sneak the book home, and read it, then want to discuss it on the internet, they can find me.
This reminds me of Ray Bradbury, only far more sinister, with a splash of Orwell tossed in. My dear God, how dumb is the american populace? Has the smartest 5%, the ones that run the entertainment industries, the news, the companies, has the smartest 5% of the people sold their souls for more money?
We have all been enslaved.
Israel has employed many methods of espionage, but the worst is using our own politicians to help them. Our politicians turn the back, and look the other way. What would the USA do if Syria stole USA secrets for making missiles? There would be an uproar, calls for sanctions, and planning an attack.
The USA has been selling fighter jets and bombs to Israel for a long time now. But that is not enough for Israel, they steal our secrets too.
I think Israel is the reason for all the problems in the world. All muslims hate them for good reason. And everyone else gets pulled in this war.
if the city administered these programs, they would be free. let me repeat that, they would be free.
since republicans started forcing cities to buy services from companies, rather than provide the service themselves, the price has increased.
look at property taxes. they used to include garbage pickup service. now my city requires pre-paid stickers for each bag of garbage to be picked up.
as for internet wireless, the cost is free right now. let me repeat that, free. if a city office needs the internet, they can put the wireless router on so anyone can use it. most cities have multiple city buildings with internet access. in my city, we have the police department on one side, the fire department on the other, the city administraion buildings elsewhere. there is a library in the middle, and a county health building. if all these offices opened up their wi-fi, everyone in my city would be no more than a 10 minute stroll to an access point.
it is the same thing with phones. why do we pay so much money for something that should cost nothing? all the phone lines are established. it does not cost very much to maintain them. where does the money go? how many millions of dollars go to executives? how many millions of dollars go to less than a dozen people?
the anwser is for the people to take control of their city. buisnesses have infultrated city government, and there are more lies than the 2am infomercial promising you wealth through real estate.
i think everyone with over 1 million dollars is a traitor, they stole it from employees. they should all be hanged. i am rooting for the terrorists. they are targeting the centers of power, and i know that will never be me or my kind. we're only good for minimum wage.
Mac's cost more.
Windows gets hacked more.
Mac's look cooler.
Windows are faster, they have twice as many Mhz as apple's.
Mac's are making a statement about culture.
Windows are getting the job done.
I think that sums it up. :p
Your idea is perfect. Just perfect. It will deal wonderfully with the situation where the terrorists have barricaded themselves in the toilet with a bomb, for example. It has no flaws in the situation where the first thing anyone knows is that three terrorists all have guns pressed against kids' temples. And when some paranoid nut goes mad on a plane and starts thinking the stewardesses are terrorists, well, thank God he'll be armed! And their families will all stand up at their funerals to bless John Seminal of Slashdot for his wonderful plan.
You have little faith in people. I trust 90% of the people to be responsible with guns. The other 10% will be taken care of by the 90%.
Let me tell you, that redneck probably can deal with terrorists damn well. It is like trying to square dance with a rattlesnake, I'm tellin ya!
I can just hear the music.
Now grab your partner by the beard
Pull real hard he's just a dear.
Now give him alcohol
he'll like a beer.
And some BBQ pork
Its a jamboree.
Now if that muslim is a bit dirty
Whop his ass so God can see.
Seriously. The point is if 3 terrorists come on an airplane with guns, yet of the other 200 passengers 45 have guns. How the hell will the terrorists know who they are? And if the shooting starts, I am pretty sure it will end with three dead terrorists. Grandma ain't missing with all 6 bullets.
If the law abiding people don't have guns, the terrorists will find ways to bring other weapons on the airplane. Then what does everyone do?
Everyone should be able to have a gun anywhere. The only people who don't carry guns are the ones who obey the law. The ones who carry guns are the criminals. Do you see why this is bad??
The law was changed a few years back. I think your reffering to the laws in the 1970's and 80's.
Bankrupcy can no longer take off federally gaurneteed loans, like school loans.
The debt stays for life. And what is worse, they can add on outrageous collection fee's.
It can be 30 years later, and they can keep trying to collect. To take all your land. To garnish your wages. To take your property.
If you know of a way to have a student loan that was gaurenteed by the USA government taken off through bankrupcy, many would love to hear it.
Soon, using community oxygen will be a privilege. Don't like it? Don't breath.
The point is, the USA used to be a principled nation. We valued ideas, like "no searches without a warrent", now we have searches without any judiciary approval (look at the patriot act).
Did you know that some sections of the patriot act are not even public? It is illegal to talk about some of the laws passed?
If government can pull someone off the street, throw them in jail, and not charge them with any crime, we have a HUGE problem.
You just don't care about other people. You figure fuck it, government is not after me. You remind me of the Jews in Germany. When hitler went for them, there was nobody left to hear their cries for help.
You will get modded down as a troll, even though you have a point.
It is one of the scariest things I see happening in the USA. People are bloodthirsty to do what the republicans want, like the left is filled with treasonous traitors.
Politicians are doing everything they can to associate emotions with a catch pharse. This kind of strategy stops people from thinking. You ever see a big southern redneck get a tear in his eye when showing off how patriotic he is?? You can't tell someone like that how wrong government is with WMD in Iraq or anything. They look at their fellow citizen as the problem, not the lies that were told to us by government.
I wonder if this is what Germany was like when Hitler sold his pack of propaganda? "We're the best country in the world" and "We know what's best for everyone else, we need to remove these dictators".
You should become a writer for Family Guy. It is exactly the kind of stuff they use. Most people wouldn't get half of what is packed in those 2 sentences. Most won't get what Dulles is (or who he is). Most won't get what he did while working for Eisenhower. If someone does figure out it is an airport in DC, that is about all I would expect. And Debbie, man that was the first porn I saw as a kid. I loved it. And a Texan. LOL. Add in the weapons joke.
Dude, that was one of the most gifted and funniest posts I have seen on Slashdot. It was insightful, and most people will not get it.
What we should do is open up the airplanes for anyone to fly, without background checks, without any searches (except looking for bombs). Send the dogs through the luggage holding section. I would feel safe, those dogs are good.
Let me take a gun on an airplane. Let Joe Sixpack take his shotgun on an airplane. Let the little old grandmother pack a glock in her purse. Nobody will know who is armed. If some terrorist decides to hijack the airplane, they will get blown away. They won't even know what direction the shot will come from.
I know what most are saying, shoot a gun on an airplane and you could blow out a wall.
There are things that can be done to stop this from happening. Force airplanes to have steel reinforced doors to the cockpit, and to keep sections seperate. What reason does someone from coach have going in first class? Throw up some locked steel doors. If one section gets blown open, the plane can still land. Second, have a good steel skeleton, so even if all the walls come down, the plane can land. And bolt the chairs down.
If the airplane has a steel skeloton, and all the chairs are bolted, nobody will get sucked out. And since the blow out will only affect one section, the other 4 sections of the airplane will be unaffected. The pilot will land as quick as possible. It will be a bit scary, but everyone will survive. And that is the worst case scenereo. If airplanes limit guns to .22's, it will still be enough to kill a person but it won't blow a hole in anything.
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The problem is, whatever they implement with airplanes will later be implemented with trains and other forms of transportation.
What if someone wants to get lost? To start over? It will be less possible with the loss of privacy?
I'll give you one example. A person turns 18, and goes off to college. He is not that smart, but family pressure for a good job pushes him into college. He somehow passes some of the easier classes, cheating, copying, buying reports. He gets a C in english, a C in history, a A in a PE activity class, a F in science. That allows him to come back for another year. But the next year, his classes get smaller, he now is getting F's in just about everything. Three years later, he is dismissed from the university, $30,000 in debt to federal loans. During the same time, he runs up his credit cards. He finds out the federal loans stay for life, there is no bankrupcy. To top it off, the credit card debts keep getting sold, and that is reported as activity, so the 7 year limit keeps getting reset.
This guy can't get a good job, his grades are crap, and he realizes that he was born to be a mechanic working for $11 bucks an hour. He is happy that he has something better than working for $7 an hour in McDonalds.
It is not enough to live well, but with a roomate an apartment becomes possible. Food is cheap fare. There is nothing left over. If he gets sick and can't work, he will be thrown on the street.
Now he starts getting letters from the government threatening throwing him in jail, having his paycheck garnished, all sorts of nasty stuff.
So what does he do? He wants to move to a different city, pick a different identity. It should not matter, he is working for little pay. He figures a mechanic is needed everwhere, people need their cars fixed.
These new laws will screw him. What if everytime he wants to take a train they ask for a fingerprint (like a library in naperville is doing)? What if Congress passes a national ID act? He won't be able to live.
The city of chicago followed next, installing 3000 camera's. They can look inside cars. They can tell if you're smoking a joint. They can tell if you're talking to a prostitute.
The city of naperville is installing fingerprint machines in order for people to use the library.
The United States Congress is pushing for a national ID card, with biometrics.
Lets face it, people will soon be tracked, it will be impossible to just slip into a city. The police will know who you are and where you are at all times.
They will soon take your DNA, without your agreement. Anyone hear about DNA dragnets being used in towns? And it is easy for them to get it. They pull you over in your car, they take you down to the station with a bogus charge. They take your picture and fingerprints. They then tell you, we'll we made a mistake, sorry, you're free to go. And as you leave, they vacum up the hair that fell out off your head. Now they have all the information, and there is nothing you can do about it.
So what if they can see you naked? Big deal. That should be the least of your worries, that Officer Friendly can see your wee-wee. What would worry me more is he can keep a tab on what your reading at the library.
Databases are here to stay, and in the future your whole life will exist in a database, somewhere.
It sucks, but that is the preperation for the revolution. If you're not willing to work 50 hours a week just to cover your rent, you will be labled a terrorist. Cuba is waiting for all who complain.