Spielberg & Lucas Approve Indy 4 Script

Anonymous Coward writes "According to an article on ComingSoon.net, the script for the fourth Indiana Jones movie is moving forward. Lucas and Spielberg have agreed on the writing, with only Harrison Ford still required to sign off on the project before it can go into pre-production. Ford has yet to read the script."

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What could possibly go wrong?

[gumpish]

From the directors who brought you A.I. and The Phantom Menace...

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

"Yet another quest for more money"

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[datafr0g]

And Jaws
And Starwars
And Close Encounters
And Schindlers List
And Raiders of The Lost Ark
And Duel
And many others...

These guys have a pretty good batting average if you ask me...

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[gordgekko]

How many of those did George Lucas write?

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

And Jaws
And Starwars
And Close Encounters
And Schindlers List
And Raiders of The Lost Ark
And Duel
And many others...

... and that AI was actually a good movie. But I guess the moderation of my post will depend on the opinion of the movie by the randomly selected dude with the mod points.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[dafragsta]

AI was actually a fantastic movie IMHO. It was a good blend of a Kubrik story with Speilberg's very polished look and high production value that he's famous for.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[datafr0g]

Only Starwars from my list... and only Phantom Menace from your post.

he had nothing to do with A.I. which you put in the parent so I don't quite see what you're getting at.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Dancin_Santa]

It was a great adaptation of Pinocchio, down to the recreation of the circus, but why the need for anything after Osment dies at the bottom of the ocean?

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

oops! apologies for the accusation!! :)

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Begemot]

But I guess the moderation of my post will depend on the opinion of the movie by the randomly selected dude with the mod points.

IMO, /. "dudes" are not that randomly selected due to its narrow segmentation and low tolerance of opinions that are out of its local consensus.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

"... but why the need for anything after Osment dies at the bottom of the ocean?"

That was the best part of the movie!! Sadly, in a lot of ways, it was a little too subtle. (note: I don't blame the movie viewers for that, I think they made some questionable decisions at that part of the movie.)

David had a really nasty programming problem. He was hard-wired to 'love' one woman, his mom. Unfortunately, this program couldn't have been changed. David could, for all practical purposes, live forever, but his mother could not. After he was frozen underwater, he was found by the robots of the day. They survived, the human race didn't. When they found him, they interfaced with him, and worked out his program. (Thus evidenced by the 'touching scene' where his memories were being played back on their faces.)

As robots, it's easy to imagine they were quite sympathetic to David. He had a program that couldn't be fulfilled. Out of compassion, they found a creative way to fulfill his program. They gave him a bs story about bringing his mother back for only one day. (If you're curious what I mean about BS, consider that she was 'brought back', had all kinds of love for David, but never once asked where her husband or other child were. She was too good to be true. Fortunately, David was naieve.) David understood the one-day rule. So he spent the day with her and had the fun that he could. He knew when she'd fade away. When it was time for bed, he fell asleep before she did. If he were to wake up, he'd discover she was gone and his program would be fucked. So, instead, he fell asleep never to awaken. He dreamt, presumably of her.

Great solution to a really tough problem. I have a great affection for this movie, mainly because I really think most movies would have ended with him 'dying' under the water instead of trying to do something more meaningful. Very satisfying.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

It was a great movie, except that everything after the "blue fairy" was stupid. I don't care how they justified it, the whole aliens (which looked dumb) thing was just lame.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[martin-boundary]

Hah! Your reverse psychology won't work on me! I just got mod points right now, and right after I post this reply you're going down baby... Huh? where's my mod points? D'oh!

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Brad1138]

"Howard the Duck"
enough said

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

See that's the whole problem with the movie, right there. It's a sad fucking story: the entire human race has died. But then they feel like polishing the turd and saying that's OK, since one robot has fun with his mommie. Whee, a happy ending.

Man, when the day comes, count me in with the robot smashers.

PS: Everyone already knew what you were 'explaining' about the robot's BS story.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

"PS: Everyone already knew what you were 'explaining' about the robot's BS story."

Then explain to me why 'everybody' argued about the plausibility of bringing somebody back from the dead, but only for a day.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

Well, the difference is that you clearly like Disney-endings while most people seem to agree that a tragic ending would have been more powerful and enjoyable. I so regretted that the film didn't end with the boy/robot whistfully observing the blue fairy.

I think there would have been something more powerful in that. An unreal boy with "real" feelings, lost for eternity in his expectations for a miracle or some sort of redemption from an unreal fairy.

After watching that, the only thing I could think of was that I'd wished Spielberg had dropped dead and Kubrick had stayed around to finish that.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Bastian]

How many of those were made in the past ten years? Right.

Even famous directors can lose their edge. I present as evidence every George Lucas or Stephen Spielberg movie made since Russia swore in its first president.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

See, I got the movie, I just didn't think it made sense (nor was the extra hour necessary).

Specifically, I don't get why he 'went to sleep forever'. Since he understood that his mom could only be there for one day, why couldn't he have fun with her, go to bed and then wake up after she was gone? And if he couldn't then why bother telling him that she was only there for one day?

I may have forgotten the exact ending as I haven't seen it in a LONG time and didn't care much for it.

Aside from the conflict over the ending, the acting and scenerios in the thick of it were fairly lame, too. Hell, as a geek, how can you accept the whole ultra-light submarine transformer thingy?! How lame was that?!

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Kirsha]

As robots, it's easy to imagine they were quite sympathetic to David. He had a program that couldn't be fulfilled. Out of compassion, they found a creative way to fulfill his program.

Huh? Robots? I always thought those beings were aliens...

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[wankledot]

That's the beauty of the extra-long ending, it doesn't matter what they are! It's so vague and pointless, you can make anything you want up and it will fit.

I agree, stop with the stupid fucking Spielberg everyone's-happy ending. Not every movie needs 5 endings to show how everything worked out nicely. I was so pissed off that the movie didn't end right when he fell into the water, I seriously wish I had walked out right then and never had to endure the "real" ending.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Talez]

It said "directors"

Spielberg did AI.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

" Since he understood that his mom could only be there for one day, why couldn't he have fun with her, go to bed and then wake up after she was gone?"

Because while dreaming, he didn't know she was gone. His program would be fulfilled until he discovered she was dead. Seeing it would have undone what the super robots were trying to do.

"Hell, as a geek, how can you accept the whole ultra-light submarine transformer thingy?! How lame was that?!"

Mixed feelings. On the one hand, seems like a strange vehicle to put together. On the other, the world's sea level had drastically risen. More interestingly, it didn't play that big of part in the movie. Yes,it got David to where he was supposed to go, but that could have been accomplished mainly by using lengthier means. Not really that important

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[PakProtector]

Whoever modded this post insightful is a boob: They weren't aliens, they were the advanced robots of the future that had survived whatever killed off the humans.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[WMCoolmon]

Are you kidding? The ending was perfect. Him watching the blue fairy would have been tragic, sure, but it wouldn't be a lasting ending.

The ending we got was bittersweet...it can't be called a Disney-ending because it's not a happily ever after ending. Humanity is dead, and his mother (we're told) can basically live for a day before she dies forever, too. One day isn't a whole lot of time.

Can you imagine being transported back to the golden years of your life...and then being told you only had a day to spend in them? Suddenly, every minute just sitting in front of a TV, riding in a car, a bus, waiting for something to happen would be intolerable. The thing about happy times is that you never really expect them to end...because if you did, they wouldn't be happy at all.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

"Huh? Robots? I always thought those beings were aliens..."

No, they weren't. This is evidenced by the scene where they 'touch' David and pull his memories. Also, the DVD's extras are pretty clear on it.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

Exactly what in the movie confirmed that these were robots from earth? In fact, I don't necessarily recall that anything even confirmed they were *robots* (except that it was just asumed).

Like I said, I watched it along time ago, so maybe I missed something in the ending where this was very clearly explained.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

this is your "evidence" that Spielberg has lost his edge?

Hook
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Amistad
Saving Private Ryan
Artificial Intelligence
Minority Report
Catch Me If You Can
The Terminal
War of the Worlds

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

Yeah, but it's still just a robot.

That's like telling me how sad and tragic throwing my toaster away would be to my blender. I think the main reason anyone actually felt sad for the character was that in their heads, he was "Haley Joel Osmet" and back in those days, everyone secretly wanted to get all Michael Jackson on his hiney.

I just can't buy that the first robot to experience any signs of what is supposedly "emotion" (but really just his programming) would also in that same magical instance be capable of comprehending such emotional nuances as the ending required.

Osmet was still just an old fashioned robot without the advancement of the ones that "rescue" him. He was still just a fancy toaster with the typical "I'm a real boy!" transformation.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[zippthorne]

AI was a decent movie.. until the half hour deus ex machina (or machina-deus ex machina?) at the end. It would've been a great (but sad) film if they'd stopped when his 'battery' died.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[MidnightBrewer]

Yeah, but it's not a prequel and they're not re-editing another director's vision after his untimely death, so maybe they'll do better this time around.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[SparksMcGee]

AI was the single worst waste of my time in a movie theater in my entire life, sir. I want my two and a fucking half hours back.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

You could have posted anonymously, mod points in hand...

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

Impressive list of shitty movies you've got there.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[10Ghz]

I agree, stop with the stupid fucking Spielberg everyone's-happy ending.

Actually, the ending of A.I. was the way Kubrick wanted it to be. It was not something Spielberg added to it.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[nathanh]

Well, the difference is that you clearly like Disney-endings while most people seem to agree that a tragic ending would have been more powerful and enjoyable.

I disagree. The "tragic ending' most critics wanted is that the movie ends with the boy robot frozen at the bottom of the sea. I think that's a hackneyed ending fit only for B-grade movies and Star Trek episodes. The "Disney ending" as you call it was by far the more tragic ending.

The movie begins when a mother loses her real child to cancer and the boy robot is brought home to fill the void. However she finds the robot very difficult to accept. It has odd behaviour and inhuman mannerisms. She's obviously uncomfortable around it, to the extent that she hides from it and is scared when it is around. The mother never learns to love the robot, despite the boy robot's hardwired love for her.

When the aliens discover the frozen boy robot they build a simulacrum of the mother. The mother simulacrum does show affection to the boy robot and finally "he" is happy. However the simulacrum is effectively a robot. The tragedy of the story is that the boy robot was never loved by any real human; he was only ever loved by another robot. Humans tried to use or exploit him in some way, only seeing the robot as a tool to be abused for their own gain. It took another robot to show the boy the unconditional love and affection he desired.

I for one loved AI. It is an excellent movie adaptation of Aldiss' original story.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[evilviper]

These guys have a pretty good batting average if you ask me...

<INSERT COMMENT ABOUT SHEER NUMBER OF FILMS AND BROKEN CLOCKS>

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[LS]

Even your sig is a troll...

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

You guys are all a buncha dicks. Now you're got me off digging through my huge DVD collection trying to find my copy of AI so I can watch it again and see if I feel different about it the second time.

I hate you assholes. I'm goin' home.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Frodo Crockett]

Interesting idea Nano, but I have one problem with it. If David's future-mother is a construct (as the environment they placed him is obviously is, and if these robots can create such wondrous things, why not let him live with the construct forever? Wouldn't that be an excellent way to learn about mankind? I know they already trawled David's memories, but there would always be something new to learn from watching him interact with the construct. I don't see a moral dilemma, either, since he could spend forever fulfilling his programming.

I don't think he would catch on, either. If he bought the "one day rule" with no explanation at all he wouldn't question being told that his recreated mother was immortal. I think you might be reading a bit too much into the problems with the movie's ending.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Frodo Crockett]

Argh. I hate to reply to my own comment, but for some reason I couldn't submit the post with this last paragraph tacked on to it. Guess it's time to check my network settings. Anyway, here's the rest of the post:

Finally, while the ending was quite effective at tugging on the ol' heartstrings, it seemed like they were piling it on. Oh no, he's frozen underwater! Oh boy, he's alive and can meet his mother again! Oh no, it's only for one day! Oh boy, look how much fun they're having! Oh no, he's going to sleep for the last time! It's like a yo-yo.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[peragrin]

A ultra light helicopters/plane/submarine is possible.

It wouldn't go down very far. maybe a 150 feet or so but that is fifteen stories. Heck divers can free dive that far with out oxygen tanks. Remember a lot of small subs are built out of aircraft grade Aluminium. The big difference is propulsion. pitch, yaw, roll all still work the same in concept. hence http://www.deepflight.com/subs/dfa.htm

Second. The ending of humanity is a given. We are going to die out if we don't leave this planet for other ones. This universal truth has been known for millenea. Whether or not you can accept itis part of just how smart you are. heck it's even in the bible that the world ends. The only two questions are when and How? those can't be answered until the day of. Sorry that's just life.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[heffrey]

It wasn't the story that didn't work (although it was crap IMO) but just that the movie had no spark.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[David Horn]

You know one thing for certain after watching the ending of the movie where the robots have to touch each other...

Bluetooth is never going to be a success. :)

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Tibor the Hun]

DVD extras? What DVD extras?

Are you telling me that I didn't get the whole story by paying the movie theater price to see it?
WTF did I pay money for then?

I too thought they were aliens.

Last fucking time I go to a movie theater and expect to see an actuall movie that tells a complete story.
I'll just pretend I'm paying 7 bucks to see a DVD preview which will be out in a few months..

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Hast]

... and that AI was actually a good movie. But I guess the moderation of my post will depend on the opinion of the movie by the randomly selected dude with the mod points.

Personally I got bored with that movie due to inconsistencies. First, what moron designs a robot with a mounth which leads into an open computer in the chest cavity? Now in the "don't eat food" scene this causes him to short out and fail.

Later in the movie he falls into a swimming pool but apparently his circuit boards are not affected by water, only spinache, since this time he doesn't short out.

It was at this point my interest in the movie ended and I just went through the motions in the end.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[rikkards]

I think Kubrick dying was his punishment for Eyes Wide Shut. After seeing that movie I was not surprised that Nichole Kidman and Tom Cruise got divorced. There was no chemistry between the two. For me the only two movies he made that I thought were worthy of commending him for were 2001 and Full Metal Jacket. I even hated Dr. Strangelove.

But that is my opinion and I am sure that others would definitely disagree and they are justified in their feelings

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[rikkards]

Nah Mary Riley was worse. I intentionally fell asleep in that one to get out of it.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Bitsy Boffin]

When the aliens discover the frozen boy robot


ARGH! For fucks sake, they are NOT ALIENS. They are the mecha! How the hell do people come to think they are aliens?!

The humans built the mecha, but eventually the humans destroyed themselves through thier greed and hate and predjudice and wastefullness and... it was the robots who inherited the earth, and learned to evolve themselves into the beings we see at the end of the film.

They are the compassionate ones, the good ones, they are the ones who help David, thier very distant ancestor, who allow him the love he sought, and bring him peace, while the humans could show him only disdain and apathy at best.

Aliens. Bloody hell.

At least you liked the movie.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Cylix]

You do know the robots were torturing him right?

We can bring someone back for one day.... I call bullshit on robot over lords.

Honestly, they just tossed a bot together and molded her appearance from DNA. The next step is fairly simple as they merely have to toss them in a room and set him up for the fall. Terribly evil and sad movie.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[nathanh]

ARGH! For fucks sake, they are NOT ALIENS. They are the mecha! How the hell do people come to think they are aliens?!

Because they look like the aliens from Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Yes, I know they're really supermecha. I only call them aliens to annoy you :-)

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Bastian]

Personally, the only two I enjoyed on that list are Schindler's List and Amistad. And of those, Schindler's list is the one I would blame on the director - Amistad was merely good, not great, and I think it was mostly carried by the skill of a single actor.

Everything else up there generally fell in the "mediocre-to-forgettable melodramatic tripe" scale, in my opinion.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

Whether or not you can accept itis part of just how smart you are.

Whoa, I call troll on that one. This is an opinion that he has very little evidence to support, so he backs it up by saying something along the lines of "if you don't agree with me, you're stupid"? I've seen six year olds give better arguments.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[some guy I know]

What could possibly go wrong?

• Indiana will get a new sidekick named "Jar-Jar".
• When he wants to seduce his leading lady, Indiana will start talking about sand.
  He will also find out that the leading lady is his long-lost fraternal twin sister, which will be kind of a downer.
  Fortunately, he will discover this before he succeeds in his seduction attempts, so that nothing too naughty happens.
• Prior to the release of the fourth movie, the first three movies will be re-released with special effects and scenes that weren't there when the movies were originally released.
• The fourth movie will try to tie up all the loose ends in the other movies, with the result that there will be very little action, but plenty of boring discussion.
• Sean Connery's character will turn to the dark side (Naziism).
  However, in the climactic scene where he tells Indiana, "Indie, I am your father, Indiana will say, "Well, yeah, I know.", so it won't have quite the same punch.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Durandal64]

ARGH! For fucks sake, they are NOT ALIENS. They are the mecha! How the hell do people come to think they are aliens?!

ARGH! For fuck's sake, they are NOT MECHA. They are robots! How the hell do people come to think that some stupid anime term for grossly impractical walking robots comes to apply generally to every artificial contraption with two legs in sci-fi?

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

and my fave, Jurrasic park II, It was totally awesome when the girl used her gynmastic skill to kick that velociraptor in the head. Speilburg is such a racial pioneer because he had goldblum's character adopt a black child. So brilliant without stooping to cliches, or the lowest common demoninator.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous Coward]

Still a hell of a lot better than that silly fairytale "schindlers list". What rubbish. At least "Howard The Duck" wasn't passed off as a true story.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Afrosheen]

I think it'd be cool if they had a contest to design alternate endings for the film. Possibly from different directors as well.

Bruckheimer ending: Robot boy goes to the bottom of the ocean, the fairy ends up being a Navy SEAL team, and he takes a rocket in the face, KABOOM!

Woody Allen ending: Robot boy goes to the bottom of the ocean where he recites 15 minutes of neurotic dialog while the audience walks out. The New York audience stays for the duration and stages a parade after the film is over.

Kubrick ending: Robot boy goes to the bottom of the ocean where he ends up deactivating himself after realizing the fairy story was bullshit.

Disney ending: yada yada boy actually meets the fairy who is a hologram projection from Robocorp. The fairy instructs him to return to the lab where a cloned human body awaits. His memory is transferred into the clone and he's reunited with the family, happily ever after etc.

Lucas ending: boy meets fairy, fairy turns out to be his father. Epic battle commences, father sacrifices himself to save the boy at the hands of the Overlordbot. Robot boy loses a hand in the battle, replaces it with a human hand. To be continued.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Brad1138]

Never has "Anonymous Coward" been more appropriate.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[kalidasa]

Lucas isn't writing Indiana Jones 4, either.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[kalidasa]

You weren't paying attention, the narration while the shot is flying through the excavation makes it clear that they are the end product of robotic evolution.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[elrous0]

How many of those did George Lucas write?

And how many were made after 1981?

-Eric

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

" If David's future-mother is a construct (as the environment they placed him is obviously is, and if these robots can create such wondrous things, why not let him live with the construct forever? Wouldn't that be an excellent way to learn about mankind?"

That's an interesting point, and I don't have a rebuttal to it! hehe. I have a theory if you're curious: Maybe what we saw wasn't a construct. Maybe it was simply a visual, like a hologram. Perhaps they interfaced directly into David and made him think he was seeing her. There's little to support this (it may even be contradicted), but it's also a more efficient use of resources. Something to consider: David would never be able to leave the house. (He's a robot with one real priority so that may not matter.) In any event, what I suggests makes your suggestion even more practical.

You got me there, I can't say the movie was air-tight. :)

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[NanoGator]

"Are you telling me that I didn't get the whole story by paying the movie theater price to see it?"

No, I'm telling you that you didn't get the whole story because you weren't paying attention. I added the DVD extras bit in case you wanted to argue with me about it.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Bitsy Boffin]

Because IN THE MOVIE they are referred to as mecha (mechanicals), while humans are orga (organics).

For example in the quote spoken by Dr Know...

Come away, O human child
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand
For the world's more full of weeping, than you can understand.

Your journey will be perilous but the reward worth the price. In his book 'How can a robot become Human' Professor Allen Hobby writes of the process that will turn MECHA into ORGA.
Our "Blue Fairy" does exist in one place only
At the end of the world where the Lions Weep
This is the place where dreams are born.

Or from Joe in..

Is Blue Fairy mecha, orga, man or woman?

indicating that mecha is seperate to all orga and that orga is a more all encompassing term (presumadly covering all organics) than man and woman togethor.

Or right at he beginning of the movie spoken by the female collegue of Professor Hobby...

If a robot could genuinely love a person, what responsibility does that person hold toward that Mecha in return?

Or in the sequence with Joe and a client...

Joe: "Is this you first time with something like me?"
Woman: "I've never been with Mecha."
Joe: "That makes two of us."

I think that now you can see that mecha is the correct term for description of the robots, at least in common usage in the 22nd century portion of the movie (although David does refer to himself as a robot so we know that is at least a technically correct term even if it's not in colloquial usage).

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Basehart]

Damm, I thought I had it, but halfway through I realized it was Debbie Does Dallas instead!

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Seumas]

Oh man, no kidding. The only people I've ever met that liked Eyes Wide Shut were goth chicks. The kind of people who are into the whole poly-amorous, free-love, everything-is-art things found it the most amazing movie ever. For the sane among us, it was just a long, boring retarded romp through some underground sex cult. And Nicole Kidman isn't even a hot enough chick to have made that worth while.

I seriously hated that movie and I'm glad I only paid $10 for the DVD.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Dabido]

I wonder what would have happened if he'd been discovered by HAL.
David: Are you my mother?
HAL: I'm sorry, I cant' let you do that Dave.
David: Are you my mother?
HAL: I'm sorry, I cant' let you do that Dave.
David: Are you my mother?
HAL: I'm sorry, I cant' let you do that Dave.

[repeat ad infinitum!]

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[zippthorne]

I was hoping someone would mention that. The particular existance after they recharged battery did not make sense assuming the robots were compassionate and wanted to make the boy comfortable. His experience post "temporary reincarnation" would be hell to me. I'm not sure if it was intentional though. So many times, authors put stuff like that in to lighten up a dark film without really thinking it through. I just thought that the ressurecting robots were unnecessary to the plot. "conflict, climax, and resolution" had already occured and the end robots thing was really another story altogether.

If they were intentionally torturing him though.. why?

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[tsalaroth]

funny that it was a kubrick film...

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[Afrosheen]

Eh, not really what I'd consider a Kubrick film. Don't even mention Eyes Wide Shut either, it was the same Kubrick-ish debauchery as AI was.

When you say Kubrick, people think of 2001: A Space Odyssey, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, etc. The most recent films with the Kubrick stamp on them are junk that he never finished. They both got 'Spielberged'.

Rest in peace, old friend, and pray that your film making legacy isn't tainted by the last two stinkers.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[tsalaroth]

I agree that they were bastardized Kubrick films, but Kubrick films none-the-less.

It's the only reason why I could stomach AI, really.

Re:What could possibly go wrong?

[johkir]

The robots at the end just confirmed for me, how well we were able to emulate ourselves, and our lack of compassion for beings *below* us. As a buddhist, I found the first 2/3 of the movie hard to watch, because of the lack of compassion, and liked the robots as they implied a time and place for humans. When I saw it again, I picked up on the sub-plot.

Is this...

[Anonymous Coward]

Is this the fabled indiana jones/star wars crossover, where indy is revealed to be han solo?

I hope so!

Re:Is this...

[digismack]

I'd like to see a match to the death between the Wookie and Jar Jar.

Re:Is this...

[cat.os.mandros]

Yes, and how the empire gets allied with the nazis and ind^H^H^Hhan solo manages to steal the millenium falcon and and and.... oh wait, too much caffeine in vein....

Re:Is this...

[k.ovaska]

Is this the fabled indiana jones/star wars crossover, where indy is revealed to be han solo?

Indy shot first!

Re:Is this...

[Finuvir]

At first I thought you were joking but then I did a bit of research and it turns out that you're not far from the truth! Apparently both characters were played by the same actor! Some guy named Harrison Ford. I wonder if he's been in anything else good?

Pretty cool piece of trivia for you movie buffs, huh? Your friends will never believe you when you tell them.

Re:Is this...

[Anonymous Coward]

And just before this movie comes out, they will release a special edition of Raiders of the lost ark in which the big black robed muslim whirling the scimitar shoots first.

Re:Is this...

[falser]

Actually when I was a kid I didn't put this together on my own. My mom told me they were the same guy and that brought me to the horrible conclusion that Star Wars was in fact not real (gasp!). That was a really bad day, thanks for reminding me.

Ford's Options

[Anonymous Coward]

1 - Make millions.
2 - Don't make millions.

I'm betting on option 1.

one of the best

[cryptoz]

Being a Star Wars fan as well as an Indiana Jones fan, I am of the opinion that Harrison Ford has been one of the best actors recent movies have seen. Though I suppose it could be debated that he's a bit old for the role, I'm still quite happy to see this!

When Lucas came back to Star Wars, it took him six years to get it right again. Lets hope Indiana Jones can do it a tad better....

Re:one of the best

[qwave54]

Though I'm very psyched that they're making another Indiana Jones movie, I'm disappointed to see that they're trying to get Harrison Ford to reprise his role. He's just too old, and I feel that they could have brought new life to the Indiana Jones franchise with a new actor.
Though I haven't read the script; perhaps they've accomodated for his age??

Re:one of the best

[shark72]

"Being a Star Wars fan as well as an Indiana Jones fan, I am of the opinion that Harrison Ford has been one of the best actors recent movies have seen."

While I agree that he has star power, I am surprised by the phrase "best actor" being used in the same sentence as "Harrison Ford." That big crate containing the ark in the final scene of "Raiders" was less wooden than Mr. Ford. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was a carpenter before he got into "acting."

However, he's nothing if not consistent, and I expect the next Indy film to have plenty of finger shaking.

Re:one of the best

[wft_rtfa]

I guess if you say a man is only as old as that man's girlfriend, then Harrison Ford is only 41.

I guess that's a little old for an action film, but if they have some younger costar for the action parts, it should be pretty good. As even in the Fugitive, which was excellent, Ford was a little slow and that was over ten years ago.

Re:one of the best

[CortoMaltese]

He's just too old, and I feel that they could have brought new life to the Indiana Jones franchise with a new actor.

I, for one, wouldn't want to see Indiana Jones turn into another James Bond, with a new movie every other year and a new actor after a couple of movies. Don't get me wrong, I think Indy movies are great, but why not let it be? Why don't we let the character age as well?

Re:one of the best

[Chasuk]

I'm going to be honest, but I don't consider Harrison Ford an actor at all. A critic somewhere referred to him as a "reassuring presence," which I think sums him up perfectly. This isn't a criticism of Harrison Ford, mind you. Likewise, I don't consider Arnold Schwarzenegger or Clint Eastwood "actors," but rather people who are merchandizable because we like their personalities. Yes, I've seen all, or nearly all, of each of their movies. But I haven't seen any of them "act" yet.

Re:one of the best

[damsa]

They should replace Ford like they replaced him on Sum of All Fears. With Affleck. With Kevin Smith directing it, who wouldn't want to see it.

Parallels with Lucas and Smith are a many. Lucas had coming of age comedies, American Graffiti, Smith had Mallrats, both have shameless merchandising tie ins with their movies, and endless rereleases. They both released crappy prequels, Phantom Menance and Mallrats, prequel to Clerks. Lucas has R2D2 and 3CPO. Smith has Silent Bob and Jay. Lucas has Hair, Smith has Hair,

I think I proved my case. I think we should do an online petition to have the next Indy be made by Kevin Smith.

Re:one of the best

[16K Ram Pack]

I can only think of one film where I consider him as doing an acting job, and that's Witness. The rest, he was basically a star. At least he seemed to look like Star Wars and Indy were fun. Watch some of his recent films, and he looks totally bored.

Re:one of the best

[16K Ram Pack]

Replacing Harrison Ford with Ben Affleck? That's like replacing Windows NT with Windows ME.

Re:one of the best

[Thomas Miconi]

The Indiana Jones franchise:

- The most popular director on Earth, Steven Spielberg

- The box office record holder, George Lucas

- The coolest actor on Earth, Harisson Ford. I mean, you can't argue with a 60 years old guy who beds Calista Flockhart, right ?

- The single best original music theme in entire film history (ta ta-ta taaaa, ta ta-taaaa...)

Now the question is: will all this be enough to disprove the age-old theory according to which the best trilogies come up in three parts ?...

Thomas-

Re:one of the best

[Nadir]

> - The single best original music theme in entire film history (ta ta-ta taaaa, ta ta-taaaa...)

I'm afraid that place is already taken by Ennio Morricone's The Good The Bad and The Ugly theme. :)

Nadir

Re:one of the best

[praxim]

Now the question is: will all this be enough to disprove the age-old theory according to which the best trilogies come up in three parts ?...

I'd be astonished by any evidence that disproves that the best trilogies have three parts.

Re:one of the best

[robfoo]

I heard Ashton Kutcher is up for the role..

Re:one of the best

[Dix_sw]

> I'd be astonished by any evidence that disproves that the best trilogies have three parts.

well, the best one was a triology in four parts. (Then they added a fifth which didn't really fit, imho) :P

Re:one of the best

[Flounder]

They should replace Ford like they replaced him on Sum of All Fears. With Affleck. With Kevin Smith directing it, who wouldn't want to see it.

2 hours of Indiana Jones talking about Star Wars, Jaws, comic books, and dick and fart jokes??

Jay: Dude, throw me the bong, I'll throw you the whip.
Silent Bob gestures.
Jay: Oh yeah, and youz has to suck both of us.
Silent Bob slaps.
Jay: Ok, tubby here will suck you while you suck me.
Silent Bob slaps again.
Indy jumps into pit and ends it all.

Re:one of the best

[carninja]

Mallrats was NOT a prequel to Clerks -- Anything that gave you this idea was fueled by Crack Cocaine. If you need that special extra be-certain-proof, check the DVD commentary.

Re:one of the best

[rikkards]

The coolest actor on Earth, Harisson Ford. I mean, you can't argue with a 60 years old guy who beds Calista Flockhart, right ?

I heard she is doing a cameo in the new indy move as a skeleton.

Thanks I will be here all night!

Re:one of the best

[RasputinAXP]

True.

It only came, continuity-wise, before Clerks.

Re:one of the best

[DavidTC]

Hell, if they want to make it a series, they could just give him a kid. Show him with a three year old for twenty seconds at the start of this movie, and then they can worry about casting the guy when they make the next one, where Ford will have a five minute cameo at the start.

I mean, there's like 60 years of history to work with at this point. Even if this one is set during the 60s, that lets them set the next one during the 80s.

Re:one of the best

[Anonymous Coward]

I find that opinion a little surprising. For me to not see an actor as "acting", I need to find all his characters interchangable. Perfect example: Jeff Goldblum. He plays the same guy every time you see him.

But (off the top of my head) Han Solo, Indiana Jones, and the main characters from Frantic, Air Force One, and The Fugitive don't seem at all interchangable to me. The only thing they have in common is their ability to kick ass if necessary.

Re:one of the best

[Abcd1234]

I am of the opinion that Harrison Ford has been one of the best actors recent movies have seen

*snicker* You need to watch more movies. :) Seriously, Ford has, what, two, maybe three characters, tops? We have the Han Solo-like character (Solo, Indy, character in Six Days Seven Nights, etc, etc), we have the more serious action character (The Fugitive, Clear and Present Danger, Blade Runner (sort of)), and... err, that's it, aside from the occasional oddball role.

Honestly, Ford doesn't hold a candle to giants like, say, Johnny Depp. Sure, Ford's entertaining to watch (usually), but "best actor of recent movies"... I think not.

Re:one of the best

[fbjon]

He's good, consistent and sensible. Maybe he's a bit wooden, but at least he's not plastic.

Re:one of the best

[Photar]

What about that movie "What Lies Beneath"?

Re:one of the best

[damsa]

Are you going to believe the original film maker who made that commentary. Or are you going to believe some anonymous dude who wants AssMan to be the next Indy.

Re:one of the best

[Chasuk]

I agree with you re Jeff Goldblum, but Jeff Goldblum plays a character that I find endearing, so I still end up caring about Jeff Goldblum when I see him on screen.

With Harrison Ford, not only do I find him interchangeable in every role, I find that character uninteresting.

Daniel Day-Lewis is an actor. Watch My Beautiful Laundrette, My Left Foot, and In the Name of the Father, one right after the other. It is barely possible to comprehend that it is the same person starring in each of these three films. Ditto Robert De Niro. Compare Taxi Driver, The King of Comedy, and Meet the Fockers, for example. Is that really the same man?

Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[ScentCone]

Of the script? Is Ford really that able to make or break the script once he's agreed to do the project? Or, has he, essentially, not yet even agreed? With the buzz this has, isn't he more or less already beholden to do it?

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Hawkxor]

They made a pact that they would only make another Indy movie if all 3 of GL, SS, and HF agreed on the script being exceptional.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[poor_boi]

Not doing the movie might bring him some bad PR, yea. But I'm guessing he's influential enough to request (and have made) modifications to the script. When everyone involved already has enough money to retire happily, compromise and cooperation probably come without the fear of career ruining mistakes.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Engineer Andy]

pity GL didn't make such a pact for episode 1 and 2.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Seumas]

Dude - he's Harrison Ford. He's Indiana Fucking Jones. He's Han Frigging Solo. He's at a point in his career where he can probably have a binding contract rider to have both directors shave their nuts and glue the pubes to their upper lip and do a little Adolph dance, if he wants to.

Hell, he's doing three movies in 2006 and he's still the top of the A-lists.

Harrison Ford has made more good movies than both of those directors combined.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[grasshoppa]

Why no one has modded that hilarious yet is beyond me.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[64nDh1]

Dude - he's Harrison Ford. He's Indiana Fucking Jones. He's Han Frigging Solo.

That is all true...but Christ on a bike above all of those things he's Deckard.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

Harrison Ford has made what? 3 good movies without those two in his entire career? [blade runner, the fugitive and air force one]

What's he done say... In the past decade?

Air Force One, directed by Wolfgang Peterson, who isn't a pushover himself.

In hindsight, Harrison Ford is one of the primier actors who has benefit from good casting, picking good roles and riding them. He's like a little Sean Connery.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[superpulpsicle]

A-list?! In Hollywood you have to overdose and start sleeping with children MJ style for years before you drop to the B-list.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Seumas]

Well, also Jack Ryan.

Seriously - all one has to do is look at his list of movies on IMDB to be impressed by the amount of great work he has done and great movies he has been involved in.

When I think of "movie stars" pre-Kieth Ledger and Cameron Diaz (in other words, real stars), I think of very few people. Jack Nicholson, Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood...

Ford was (and still is, I suppose) the man women loved and men wanted to be. He had a good sense of comedic timing, a handsome look, a stoic persona. What modern male actors can you say is the guy that men universally want to be and women universally want to be with?! I can't think of any guy who has that right mix of bad-ass, intelligence, commedy and sex appeal. I guess some would argue Colin Farrel, but.. I mean - eew. I sure don't want to be him.

If you want a good idea of the contrast, look at Harrison Ford as Jack Ryan... then look at Ben Affleck as the new Jack Ryan. While I don't think Affleck was awful, he was no god damned Harrison Ford!

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[grasshoppa]

I can't think of any guy who has that right mix of bad-ass, intelligence, commedy and sex appeal.

Ewan McGregor

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Seumas]

You're kidding, right?

A Devils Own? (Jack Ryanesque film)

Regarding Henry? (A good change of pace compared to his other films)

Witness?

Mosquito Coast (awesome movie)?

Frantic? (Very underrated movie)

A little film called THE FUGITIVE....

Another little film called.. uh... BLADE RUNNER....

Oh, not to mention he had parts in the beginning of his career in a couple little movies known as APOLOCYPES NOW and AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Sure, they weren't big parts or anything, but that his career was just getting going.

And that's ON TOP of four STAR WARS movies, three INDIANA JONES movies and three(?) JACK RYAN movies.

Yeah, boy. What a slouch that guy is.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

I would have deemed your post credible. I say WOULD have, except for your depiction of Air Force One as a "good movie". I call TROLL!

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Seumas]

No, his name came to mind - but I sure as hell don't want to be him. He's too sensitive and not tough-guy-ish enough (except when weilding a light saber, I guess).

I guess the main difference is that Harrison Ford was one of those guys that was all of the above while still being a rugged man's man. So many of these other guys are cookie-cutter pretty boys that make the girls swoon, can maybe act, and get a few tough roles that they somehow manage to pull off.

Sure, the round of big stars had their pretty boys, too. They had Robert Redford and Paul Newman, for example. But watch Cool Hand Luke and tell me that Paul Newman isn't a man's man - a total badass and a rugged dude.

Then again, maybe teenagers today see movie stars differently than people nearing 30 see them (just like with music).

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

And that's ON TOP of four STAR WARS movies

The Star Wars holiday special doesn't count...

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Seumas]

My bad. For some reason, I got it into my head that he had a very brief role (as someone other than Han) in Star Wars I,II or III. I checked it out and I was clearly wrong about that.

I haven't seen II or III, so I didn't know for sure.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

umm.. he did say Blade Runner already.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[grasshoppa]

Give him time to mature a bit, I think you'll see another harrison ford. Hell, look at American Grafitti, Ford was *young* in that movie ( filmed in the very town I'm posting this from, btw ).

He's one of the greats of his generations, and he's just going to get better and better as he matures.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

Jack Ryan! You mean the husband of Jeri Ryan! I'd love to see a movie about that guy; but I sure don't remembere Harrison Ford playing any such role. What are you talking about.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

and three(?) JACK RYAN movies.

No way! Are you telling me that the X-husband of Jeri Ryan of Star Trek has 3 movies about him.

Sure, he lead an amazing life that all of /. aspires to : Taking the Borg 7-of-9 to sex clubs for group sex in real life! But is that enough to fill 3 movies!

Well,I guess so - I'd buy 3 sex movies of 7-of-9, and I have no idea what the heck you're talking about that Harrison Ford allegedly played in.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Osty]

You're also off on his Jack Ryan roles. He played Ryan twice: Patriot Games, and Clear and Present Danger (with the absolute horrible casting of Willem Dafoe as John Clark, but the rest of the movie was good). The only other movie adaptations of Jack Ryan novels were The Hunt for Red October and Sum of All Fears. Hunt was pre-Ford with Alec Baldwin as Jack Ryan, and Sum was post-Ford with Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan. Supposedly Rainbow Six is in the pipes for a movie adapatation, but Jack Ryan doesn't make an appearance in the novel. He might have some screen time, depending on how the script goes (Ryan was president during the novel), but I'd doub that. Besides, Sum of All Fears screwed up the movie timeline, so they may write the R6 script without Ryan as President.

IMDB does list some TV role in "The Secret World of Spying" with Ford as Ryan, but I have no idea what that is. However, it has Samuel L. Jackson listed as Robby Jackson, which means it can't be all bad (though he's a bit tall for Robby, who's supposed to be rather short according to the books). It looks like that was some sort of special, capitalizing on Patriot Games (both 1992), and so I'd call it similar to the Star Wars Holiday special -- it doesn't count.

(yes, I'm a Tom Clancy geek. Sorry :)

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Seumas]

For some reason, I keep counting Devil's Own as a Jack Ryan film. It's an honest mistake. I mean, if you didn't know better - wouldn't you assume it was a Jack Ryan film just based on the plot and characters? :)

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Osty]

The plot is superficially similar to Patriot Games, so I could see the mistake. IRA in Patriot Games, IRA in Devil's Own. Ford in Patriot Games (the movie), Ford in Devil's Own. Other than that, though, I wouldn't call them too similar. So sure, honest mistake, but not one I'd expect too many people to make :)

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you for real? You are giving me flashbacks of Jackie Harvey at The Onion.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[lxs]

I've heard that the new film takes place in the tomb of Harrison Ford's career, where it has been laying frozen in carbonite for 3000 years.

Yes most of those were great films, but notice that the most recent of those films is from 1997, and all the really good ones are from the eighties.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[niktemadur]

The Star Wars holiday special doesn't count...

Oh man, that was a knee-slapper. If I had mod points, I would gladly sacrifice one in the name of Funny.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Durandal64]

I just want to know what he was thinking when he signed on for Hollywood Homicide.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

Clancy is a loser :/

Robert Ludlum. Then when you realize it can be better - Andy McNab.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

With who, R2-D2? Or perhaps you mean Yoda? The only main characters in the original trilogy and the new trilogy were the Emperor, R2-D2, C3PO, Yoda, and ???

Those characters all had pretty excellent roles in the new films.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Anonymous Coward]

Mosquito Coast (awesome movie)?

I just wanted to jump in here and say I loved this movie. I'd never heard of it and discovered it in the $5 bin at Wal-Mart a few years ago. A very underrated film IMO.

As of a few years ago at least, if not still today, Harrison Ford lists this as his all-time favorite of the films he's made.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[timeOday]

Ford has a had a great career, and I'm sure he will make more good movies in the future.

However, he is now too old to play Indiana Jones. He'll be 65 when this film comes out. That is just to old to convincingly do things like drag under a truck by hanging on to a bullwhip, or to kick butt in hand-to-hand combat. (Yes, I'm aware stuntmen and not actors do these things, but the actor must look the part).

Ford should do the sort of role Sean Connery did in the earlier film, and pass the torch to a new Indy Jr.

But who should that new Indy Jr be?

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[/dev/trash]

Pauly Shore.

Re:Indiana Jones And The Search For Actor Approval

[Osty]

Clancy is a loser :/

Thanks for enlightening me. I was unaware Clancy was such a loser. I've now burned all of my Clancy books and will be preaching the anti-Clancy gospel to everyone I meet. Thank you for showing me the light.

The best of the series, I predict

[Dancin_Santa]

I don't have any blind loyalty to Harrison Ford as Indy. River Phoenix played Indy well in the TV series. A scrawl of blocky pixels played Indy well in the LucasArts games.

Indiana Jones is a character, and played well, can be played by anyone.

Though he hasn't been around lately, the range of an actor like Jim Carrey can bring new life to this old character. Wit, intelligence, and a talking buttcrack are things that typify Indy. With the possible exceptions of Morgan Freeman and Harrison Ford himself (who are both way past their prime in terms of physicality), Carrey would be an awesome choice to play this legendary character.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

that's so crazy it just might work!!

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Hawkxor]

Sean Patrick Flannery played Indy on TV; RP played Indy only in Last Crusade, then he died.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Freaky Spook]

I think Hue Jackman would make an awesome Indy, if I were to choose someone to replace Harrison, it would be him.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Hawkxor]

Jim Carrey, you say?

You are a bad man. You are a very bad man.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

Jackman (the guy who played Wolverine for all you comicbook nerds) lacks stage presence. Even in scenes where he is the main target of interest, he is overshadowed by the set or other supporting characters. Van Helsing, X-men, etc. His characters all lack the power that a better actor could infuse.

This isn't to say that I think he's not growing or is washed up as an actor. Just that he is too underpowered to play a role like Indiana Jones.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[AndroidCat]

Adam Sandler.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[phobos13013]

Stage Presence...? You realize Hue (or is it Hugh....) Jackman won a Tony award right? FOR BEST ACTOR!!!!!

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[AuMatar]

Carey's range? You mean his ability to go from an unfunny jackass to a really unfunny jackass?

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[MrShaggy]

I tend to think that myself. Kinda like the 007 movies. However I always thought someone like Johnny Depp might be good for something like that. He was good in 'Pirates'.It would be a natural evolution.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Poietes]

Kevin Costner.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Monkelectric]

A scrawl of blocky pixels played Indy well in the LucasArts games

I met him when he appeared on Inside the Actors Studio, nice guy.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

And again I refer you to his movies in which his "Tony award winning" stage presence is buried by the set and his own makeup. He makes a great character actor, but a character like Indiana Jones needs to also be the most important part of any scene.

Indiana Jones isn't like a puzzle where each character plays an important role in filling out the movie. Indy IS the movie. Jackman may play roles in the first type of movie well, but as we have seen in pretty much all of his big screen outings, he lacks as a significant presence in his own right. Harrison Ford, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis, and Christopher Walken all have that presence. When they are on the screen all eyes are on them and they play it well.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[NanoGator]

John Goodman playing Indy after letting himself go...

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Tuross]

Wit, intelligence, and a talking buttcrack are things that typify Indy

wrt. Jim Carrey, score 1 for the talking buttcrack.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

WTF is up with this Insightful mod?

The last paragraph is utter nonsense -- Jim Carrey to play Indiana Jones?!

And Morgan Freeman is black, if you hadn't noticed.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

So Indy and his brother go on a killing spree in Nazi Berlin and kill Hitler after quoting from the Grail Diary?

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

Wha? No mention of Chris Rock yet?

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

Carrey would be an awesome choice to play this legendary character.

Mr. Carrey,

Wouldn't you be better served by telling your agent you want the role and not posting it on Slashdot as "dancin santa"?

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Anonymous Coward]

Ahh you dirty dirty troll. Jim Carrey was too obvious. You are losing your touch.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Nishal]

jim carey? are you fucking high..thats as bad as having nic cage play superman

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Jace of Fuse!]

Um. Jim Carrey doesn't really have much range. He just gets lucky once in a while and isn't such a moron in some of his movies.

He would never really work as Indiana Jones. "Ace Ventura and the Temple of Doom" just doesn't have much of a ring to it.

Ford is cool. Carrey is a dork. Two totally different types, for two totally different parts. A "comedy Indy" movie would just be vile.

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Jesus_666]

Johnny Knoxville. The character will be renamed into "Indiana Jackass".

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Jesus_666]

Too bad that Mr. Pixels already declined. He got into an argument with with Lucas/Spielberg on how much SCUMM to use in the movie. Rumors say that after the argument he was all like
use door
use Great Lexicon of Swearwords with famous directors
Pixels: "Go f**k yourself!"
go to outside
use door

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[Ubergrendle]

Why stop there?

Cedric the Entertainer!

Re:The best of the series, I predict

[AndroidCat]

Indiana Jones and the Barr Sinister.

How 'bout

[Himring]

Evil SS Nazi: "So, Dr Jones, boxes or briefs?..."

Jones: "Depends...."

Re:How 'bout

[astromog]

Evil SS Nazi: "So, Dr Jones, boxes or briefs?..."

I prefer crates, myself.

Re:How 'bout

[Anonymous Coward]

Woah. Subtle.
Btw those anti-script images are getting frelling hard to make out :|

Re:How 'bout

[MrYotsuya]

I prefer crates, myself.

How could you compare a mere crate to the loose comfort of a large barrel (with suspenders)?

You're mad!

Re:How 'bout

[cranos]

You're both mad I say. Nothing surpasses the comfort and power of the STEAM DRIVEN GUSSET!!!

Re:How 'bout

[theconartist]

Nah, commando is the way to go!

Re:How 'bout

[Big Sean O]

It's 24 years after the first Indiana Jones movie and according to Wikipedia, it's set in 1936.

So... 1936 + 24 = 1960.

Indiana Jones and the Red Menace
Indiana Jones and the Beaver Cleaver
Indiana Jones meets Sputnik
Indiana Jones goes "On The Road" with the Beaniks
Indiana Jones and the Two Car Garage
Indiana Jones vs. Cassius Clay

The possibilities are endless... ly Stupid.

Sounds familiar...

[Anonymous Coward]

I remember something about Harrison Ford using a Mac... I think they made a game about it:

http://www.lucasarts.com/products/indy/

Beware TPB

Not a flame, just a fact...

[DigiShaman]

That Ford is too old to be doing this. Unless he can still act the part and look the part with makeup and CGI, I don't see how he can be Indi anymore. 10 year ago...maybe, but not now.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[poor_boi]

There's no reason why we can't have stories about Indy's adventures later in life.

We could even have Indy mentoring a youthful up-and-coming successor. Which then opens up the possibilities for youthful female love interests... which then opens up the pockets of lusty middle aged Americans, everywhere!

Maybe I should be a producer.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[Anonymous Coward]

If you watched the last crusade, you'd remember that he became immortal but will still age. Ergo, it works with the plot.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[NanoGator]

"That Ford is too old to be doing this. "

So was Sean Connery.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[PalmMP3]

That Ford is too old to be doing this. Unless he can still act the part and look the part with makeup and CGI, I don't see how he can be Indi anymore. 10 year ago...maybe, but not now.

If you would be a true Indy fan (like me), you would have heard plenty about this on some of the many fan sites out there, such as The Raider. One of the key details you would have found out is that Indy IV will be set in the '50s, to compensate somewhat for Ford's age.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[Anonymous Coward]

you've also seem to have forgotten the matter of christopher lee, the geriatric, and his kung fu count dooku cgi body courtesy of lucas enterprises.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[xquark]

I think its gonna be something like the one where Sean Connery was
playing his father, but this time Ford will be the old fart and
the guy that plays Indy in the "Young Adventures Of" will be the
new Indy, with Lucas doing a camio as the fat old disgruntled bad
guy :D

Arash

Re: Not a flame, just a fact...

[Black Parrot]

> with Lucas doing a camio as the fat old disgruntled bad guy

You mean "the director", of course.

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[Anonymous Coward]

Considering that it's been 24 years since the first film, the new one should be set in approx. 1967 to properly compensate for Ford's age. "Indiana Jones and the Summer of Love"?

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[OutOfMyTree]

Indiana Jones and the Zimmer Frame of Death?

Re:Not a flame, just a fact...

[PalmMP3]

Considering that it's been 24 years since the first film, the new one should be set in approx. 1967 to properly compensate for Ford's age. "Indiana Jones and the Summer of Love"?

It doesn't have to be 24 years at all - Indy's age does not have to match Ford's real age exactly; after all, Temple of Doom was made several years later, and the storyline is set one year earlier (1935)! The main thing is that it should be somewhat plausible - and since "the '50s" gives one the impression of being two decades later than "the '30s", the change in Indy's age makes sense to the veiewer.

Oh, and FYI, 1936 (the year he RotLA storyline is set in) + 24 years != 1967

old man jones

[downsize]

this will be cool to see him play a role as old man indy. I just hope he does play an old ass professor that mentors some youngin' on his quests.

Re:old man jones

[Anonymous Coward]

I just hope he does play an old ass professor that mentors some youngin' on his quests.

Combine this with the Road Trip and Euro Trip movies and you get Indiana Jones and the Field Trip of Doom. Insert a lot of topples nubile girls and sexual situations. Indy must be aware of the dangers on his quest, though (heart attacks, too much Viagra).

But Ford will look soooo OLD.....

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm worried it won't feel quite the same because of that difference...

SCOOP! George Lucas' one-line cameo

[AVIDJockey]

"Quality... I hate quality."

Call me crazy...

[craenor]

But for everyone who says Harrison Ford is too old...why not just make Indiana Jones older?

Set the movie in the late 1950's and you are good to go. *shrugs*

Re:Call me crazy...

[Fox_1]

Plot Summary: Steven Spielberg says that the film will feature all of Jones' former babes in various cameo roles. Karen Allen is expected to be back for one soundbite, and other Indy girls who had smaller roles will be coming back. It is still up in the air whether or not Kate Capshaw, Spielberg's wife, will make an appearance. Sean Connery as Indy's father will be back for a few scenes, and the film is set in the early '50s.

From one of the linked sites off the 'article'. So they did make him older, and are surrounding him with old women so we don't notice. Now where are they gonna find some Nazi's I wanna know. Or is it a new enemy? Koreans? Russians? South American Nazi's?

Re:Call me crazy...

[aussie_a]

He's too old to be doing all the sunts they'll make him do. No old guy is going to really do what they'll make Ford pretend to do.

Re:Call me crazy...

[Hawkxor]

what's with the "why not" and the "*shrugs*"

It's already been said on record (I think by Frank Marshall) that Indy 4 will be set in the 50s.

Re:Call me crazy...

[MagicDude]

Now where are they gonna find some Nazi's I wanna know.

I believe there was an entire movie that didn't involve Nazis. What was it called, Temple of something? Something of doom? Something of something?

Re:Call me crazy...

[CPUGuy]

Yeah, and it was probably the most hated of the 3 Indy films.

Re: Call me crazy...

[Black Parrot]

> Now where are they gonna find some Nazi's I wanna know.

Brazil. Expect another sight gag with an equally aged Hitler.

Re:Call me crazy...

[Anonymous Coward]

Especially by people who like Indian food, and had to put up with the stupid Eyeball Soup comments. Fucktards....

Re: Call me crazy...

[1u3hr]

Brazil. Expect another sight gag with an equally aged Hitler.

That's Hilter, (National Bocialist candidate for East Minehead).

Re:Call me crazy...

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, TOD has sort of cheap feeling into it. The other two are still pretty good IMO.

"Hindus, I hate hindus."

Re:Call me crazy...

[Anonymous Coward]

lol here's a glimpse of the script:

"Indy grabs an old grandma by the waist and after 30 seconds of cheesy flirt lines, kisses her passionately as they fall on the bed."

Re:Call me crazy...

[ajlitt]

Aren't he and his dad supposed to be immortal now or something?

Vaporware the motion picture

[Anonymous Coward]

Got to wonder if we shouldn't consider it vaporware until it actually gets started, maybe not even then. How many years before they got a script they liked? Their action star has litterally turned into a senior citizen while they waited for a script. Thank God for CG or he might be doing the stunts from a wheelchair.

Re:Vaporware the motion picture

[poor_boi]

It's in IMDB as "in production". Vaporous or not.

Re:Vaporware the motion picture

[Anonymous Coward]

In general IMDB isn't the most reliable source of information. The film is not in "Production", that would mean they were shooting. They are probably in what is called preproduction. They are trying to get key actors attached and nailing down a budget. Once the primary elements are in place the would try to enter into preproduction. On a film of this sort there is likely to be 6 months or more of preproduction. They are a long way from Production. A lot can happen in the meantime including the actor given his age falling ill. That's why I still dubbed it vaporware. Until they finish at this point there is going to be some doubt about whether it'll happen. The odds are good it's simply not a sure thing.

Re:Vaporware the motion picture

[Anonymous Coward]

well then, if its on IMDB it must be true!!

Re:Vaporware the motion picture

[ImTheDarkcyde]

yes, but IMDB also lists Die Hard 4 : Die Hardest

Re:Vaporware the motion picture

[Ecko7889]

Writing credits:
George Lucas (characters)
George Lucas (story)

Great.....

<German Accent>You've lost your marbles Mr. Jones!</German Accent>

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

(Lucas will never live that down)

All I want to know is...

[myowntrueself]

will Angelina Jolie be in it, starring as Lara Croft?

Re:All I want to know is...

[Seumas]

Yes, and she'll be screaming and moaning about her dry-desert of a uterus.

Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[Empiric]

Seems like it's going to be an interesting continuity-versus-drama challenge in that, if Indy can't die (having drank from the Holy Grail in the previous movie), what enemies/threats does he really have for the assumed action scenes?

(From a link off the main linked page)

Speaking about the story, Lucas adds that is it "vaguely in the realm of the supernatural. We have to accept the fact that Indiana Jones is an older man. But it's been hell getting a script out of it."

Seems like it would have to be... and I can understand the difficulty. :)

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[astromog]

Indy drank from the Holy Grail, yes. But the old knight said that you have to drink from it every day to have eternal life.

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[UpLateDrinkingCoffee]

...if Indy can't die (having drank from the Holy Grail in the previous movie), what enemies/threats does he really have for the assumed action scenes?

The effect of drinking from the grail only had effect within the borders of the temple. Once past the seal on the floor, you were no longer immortal.

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[shmlco]

if Indy can't die (having drank from the Holy Grail in the previous movie)

But he didn't stay inside the cavern. "Such is the price of immortality."

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[keraneuology]

Seems like it's going to be an interesting continuity-versus-drama challenge in that, if Indy can't die (having drank from the Holy Grail in the previous movie), what enemies/threats does he really have for the assumed action scenes?

He doesn't have immortality - the knight was quite clear that the price of eternal life requires that one never pass over the great seal. To maintain immortality it would appear that one would have to regularly drink from the cup.

You have chosen wisely. But the Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal. That is the boundary and the price of immortality.

- Knight Guardian

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[Anonymous Coward]

if Indy can't die (having drank from the Holy Grail in the previous movie)

God, you suck.

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[Ecko7889]

I believe that refers to the Grail (the cup) itself. You are not able to take the Grail past the seal and just use any water, and make the world immortal. It's a little confusing, but what I understood was that Jones was immortal at the end of the movie, and so was his father.

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[Zarn]

The effect of drinking from the grail only had effect within the borders of the temple. Once past the seal on the floor, you were no longer immortal.

How do you then explain that the stomach wounds of Indy's dad didn't return when they left the Temple?
I myself thought the drinking of the Grail tied in nicely with Young Indy adventures: the stories were told from Indiana as a spry 80-year old. Clearly he was meant to live a long, long time.

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[Saeger]

Hm. So the seal at the entrance was transmitting some kind of directional keep-alive signal into the mountain, and if the nanites -- which were released from the "holy grail" when drunk from -- in your body's cells lose this signal for too long, then the aging disease is allowed to continue. How cruel.

The obvious fix is to either figure out what the signal is and take it with you always, or, when the tech is available, replace the grail's cripple-ware immortality with GNU immortality nanites (if you want to remain in a biological body that is).

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[DimGeo]

I figured drinking from the Grail just makes your wounds go away and restores your body. So, to live forever, you would have to go regularly and drink from the Grail. Since the Grail was lost because of the young girl (I felt very sorry for her at the end of the movie, I got the feeling it was a tragic ending and it kinda ruined the happy ending thing I was expecting) - nobody would be immortal any more.

Re:Isn't Indiana now immortal?

[tsalaroth]

not to mention he drank it in the temple.

sheesh.

some people.

anyways, he's not too old.

in part 4,

[SQLz]

...Indiana Jones never whips first. He dodges laser beams then whips the blaster pistol from their hand....oh wait.

entertainment tonight

[hexstatik]

when did /. become a movie news/gossip/rumor site? really, if i wanted to know about trash like that, i'd watch entertainment tonight.

Re:entertainment tonight

[NanoGator]

"when did /. become a movie news/gossip/rumor site? really, if i wanted to know about trash like that, i'd watch entertainment tonight."

It's always been like that. Okay, it's not interesting to you, but how many 'nerds' aren't into Indiana Jones? I mean, for crying out loud, the dude was an archaelogist AND a ladies man!

Re:entertainment tonight

[Stormwatch]

It's "news for nerds". Which includes news related to "nerd films" such as: Star Wars, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings...

Re:entertainment tonight

[hexstatik]

don't get me wrong, i'm a geek and i like nerd movies too. but i want to hear about NEWS, not gossip about movies who are in the script approval stage. it just sounds like gossip or the hollywood rumour mill/hype machine at work to me.

Re:entertainment tonight

[Anonymous Coward]

don't get me wrong, i'm a geek and i like nerd movies too. but i want to hear about NEWS, not gossip about movies who are in the script approval stage. it just sounds like gossip or the hollywood rumour mill/hype machine at work to me.

So create your own fucking site and you can post whatever crap gets you off okay? /. doesn't revolve around your whiny ass so you might as well get used to simply ignoring the posts that don't interest you. oh yeah.. asshat.

Re:entertainment tonight

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure, where else would we find information about such obscure nerd films as Indiana Jones? Certainly mainstream entertainment news never even mention nerd cult figures like Harrison Ford or Steven Spielberg. It's a good thing we've got this great site to inform us of their ventures, so that we can give them the financial support they deserve!

Not too old!

[John Seminal]

Being a Star Wars fan as well as an Indiana Jones fan, I am of the opinion that Harrison Ford has been one of the best actors recent movies have seen. Though I suppose it could be debated that he's a bit old for the role, I'm still quite happy to see this!

The great thing about the Indy character is his smarts. Half the time he gets out of trouble because he thinks his way out, not because he uses force. Can Sean Connery play James Bond today? I think he could. Can Ford play Indy, I think he can.

I can't wait for Indy 4, the previous movies were awesome.

Indy is like MacGyver on steroids.

Lets just hope they get a good script, a good story, one that gets the intellect and imagination flowing together. Those movies are so rare.

I wonder how many people went into history or archeology because of the Indy movies?

Re:Not too old!

[Anonymous Coward]

And how many of them were *seriously* *seriously* disappointed?

Re: Not too old!

[Black Parrot]

> Can Sean Connery play James Bond today? I think he could.

I'd love to see Connery reprise as James Bond called out of retirement for some emergency that needed his talent. Provided the script didn't suck.

As for Indy IV, Ford's age suggests a movie set in the late '50s or early '60s, so it might be fun to have him run in to James Bond during the course of his adventure.

Re: Not too old!

[KozmoStevnNaut]

Sir Sean really should be James Bond, if only just once more, simply because his voice IS Bond.

Nobody does the "Bond, James Bond" shtick quite like he does.

Re: Not too old!

[Black Parrot]

> Nobody does the "Bond, James Bond" shtick quite like he does.

Let alone the "Poosie" Galore shtick.

Re: Not too old!

[1u3hr]

I'd love to see Connery reprise as James Bond called out of retirement for some emergency that needed his talent. Provided the script didn't suck.

The character he played in The Rock was James Bond in all but name. Just imagine that the reason Roger Moore took over was that the original 007 had been captured while stealing J Edgar's files. And much earlier, in 1967, there was Casino Royale with David Niven as an older Bond (along with several other Bonds, but this was a parody).

Re:Not too old!

[robfoo]

I wonder how many people went into history or archeology because of the Indy movies?

Four

Re: Not too old!

[Dogtanian]

I'd love to see Connery reprise as James Bond called out of retirement for some emergency that needed his talent. Provided the script didn't suck.

Connery *did* do that in 1983, in "Never Say Never Again". This was essentially a remake of "Thunderball" with some mild comedy. Some guy had the (joint) rights to Thunderball due (IIRC) to some work he'd done on it with Fleming in the 1960s, and thus another company were able to make a Bond film without getting sued into oblivion by Eon productions (who made all the Bond films except this and the 1960s Casino Royale).

Unfortunately, it didn't "feel" very good; the music wasn't Bond, and many elements (including characters) from the Bond films didn't appear (or were different); presumably because Eon rather than Fleming had been responsible for those elements.

Re: Not too old!

[mforbes]

Two words:

The Avengers.

Re: Not too old!

[Pope]

Strange that the fan favourite Star Wars movie, "The Empire Strikes Back," was directed by a guy who hasn't really done much big since, including "Never Say Never Again." It's really too bad, he's a good director with a real sense of how to work with actors, unlike Lucas or his puppet Marquand.

At least Nicholas Meyer got to do the two best Star Trek movies, "Wrath Of Khan" and "Undiscovered Country."

Re: Not too old!

[AndyChrist]

My brother had the best idea ever for a Bond movie:

All the surviving Bond actors should play like a round-table of villains.

How fucking cool would that be?

Re: Not too old!

[dargon]

Me, I was hoping he'd reprise the role when they got rid of Timothy Dalton. t could have been a great movie, Sean Connery comes in, kicks Daltons ass for being a shitty Bond, leaving him dead at the end of the movie where and MI6 hunting for a replacement.

Re: Not too old!

[Rallion]

As for Indy IV, Ford's age suggests a movie set in the late '50s or early '60s, so it might be fun to have him run in to James Bond during the course of his adventure.

Duuude. And then James Bond would be his father! And all that "Look what you did! I can't believe what you did!" from Last Crusade was just a sham!

Lucas would love it!

Re: Not too old!

[Black Parrot]

> > I'd love to see Connery reprise as James Bond called out of retirement for some emergency that needed his talent. Provided the script didn't suck.

> Connery *did* do that in 1983, in "Never Say Never Again". This was essentially a remake of "Thunderball" with some mild comedy. Some guy had the (joint) rights to Thunderball due (IIRC) to some work he'd done on it with Fleming in the 1960s, and thus another company were able to make a Bond film without getting sued into oblivion by Eon productions

The were supposedly going to do it again about five years ago, purportedly with James^w Sean Connery playing the villan. You may be able to find something about it by googling for its working title, "Warhead 2000".

Re: Not too old!

[Dogtanian]

It also says they wanted Jason Connery to play Bond.

In the words of Linus Torvalds, "They are smoking crack".

But obviously not that much, because they shelved the idea. Wonder if it was because they reckoned they'd lose against MGM or because there's only so much you can wring out of the rights to a film that's already been made twice...

Cold war. Classic dames.

[Anonymous Coward]

My understanding is that this *will* be set in the fifties, at the height of the cold war. Early rumors included Karen Allen reprising her role from the first film, although I understand that's fallen by the wayside.

A damned shame. Karen Allen carried the first Indy movie every bit as much as Harrison Ford did, and that's largely the reason why it's considered so superior to the latter two. I have no doubt this will be a fun movie - Indy three surely was - but if they want it to really sing, they'd bring her back as well.

Cmon don't screw it up.....

[beetlefeet]

And NO new versions of the original trilogy!! Harrison Ford can do it. I hope they don't do a 'passing the legacy' thing down to another actor/character. Also, they should have to watch that southpark episode about the raiders of the lost ark remake once every night during production.

It was finally approved?!!??

[blakespot]

Om nam shivai!! Om nam shivai!! Om nam shivai!! Om nam shivai!!

blakespot

Re:It was finally approved?!!??

[Anonymous Coward]

On the other hand...

Kali ma shakti day, Kali ma shakti day, Kali ma shakti day!

Look out Indy! It's a trap!

Re:It was finally approved?!!??

[Anonymous Coward]

You .. drink black blood .. of Kali ... You no wake up either...

INDY! Cover your heart!!!

Checklist for Harrison.

[Poietes]

Harrison better make sure it has all the essentials. It's not good to mess with the formula that geeks have come to know and love:

• Snakes, and Indy saying how much he hates them.
• Guns, and Indy saying how much he hates them.
• Nazis.
• A big nasty strong guy whom Indy defeats with cunning rather than brawn.
• A scrawny little guy with pince-nez glasses and a thick accent.
• An artifact of supernatural powers.
• A scene in which the terrible power of the artifact is realised.
• Hat and bullwhip.
• Sassy love interest.
• John Rhys-Davies in a red fez.
• Denholm Elliot stuttering his way through his lines.
• One or more booby traps.

That second to last one could prove to be quite difficult.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[beetlefeet]

Maybe it's:
Indiana Jones and the Ghost of Marcus Brody

And at the end they pull off the mask, and it's just nazi's playing a trick.

Also, out of interest in regards to:
- A big nasty strong guy whom Indy defeats with cunning rather than brawn.
The big tough guys in the 3 films are all played by the same actor. Pat Roach I think. They should try to get him back aswell.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[NotQuiteReal]

Heh, if they updated the setting too much, we'd have Indy getting to his destination, and his gun and bullwhip would be missing from his luggage, with a simple note saying that the TSA had to inspect his bags, sorry for any inconvenience...

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[NanoGator]

Or just buy the original trilogy.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[RedWizzard]

Denholm Elliot stuttering his way through his lines.

Since he's dead that'll be an opportunity for Lucas to put some more CGI in.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[UTPinky]

"The big tough guys in the 3 films are all played by the same actor. Pat Roach I think. They should try to get him back aswell."

He passed away last year... Throat cancer I believe.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[Lahiru]

Erm... Dernholm Elliot was only a stuttering buffoon in the Last Crusade. In the first Indy he seemed quite lucid and full of vigour, and it was implied that he may have once been something of an adventurer. He says that he would have gone after the Ark of the Covenant himself had he been younger, or something to that effect.

The Last Crusade is a great film, but it screwed over the characters of both Marcus Brody and Sallah - Sallah was a wily and resourceful fellow in the first film, but in Last Crusade I seem to recall him running around gathering camels or something equally degrading.

Hopefully, this trend won't continue into the forthcoming film. Given that Harrison Ford won't be as physically active as he was 20 years ago, he too may be relegated to bumbling around in the film. OK, Indy IS the film so maybe it won't be quite that bad, but even a few moments of senelity or incompetence of that nature will ruin the film. They have to find a way to make him age gracefully...

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[beetlefeet]

Thats a shame. I guess they need to hurry up if they want many cameos.

Also, in regard to defeating with cunning rather than brawn:
As far as I remember the tough guys generally get killed by themselves, while beating the crap out of Indiana.

In Raiders he gets chopped by a airplane propeller, in Temple he gets squished by a stone crushing machine.
I can't remember offhand the big guy in Crusade or how he died...

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[spongeboy]

and - shots of old maps with a moving icon because it would be too boring to show hours on end of Indy hanging onto a submarine.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[rhiorg]

Let's mix it up a bit and see if we can get a John Waters film out of some of the same ingredients...

* A big nasty strong Nazi snake with pince-nez glasses and a thick accent.
* A scrawny little guy with supernatural boobies.
* Sassy love interest played by John Rhys-Davies in a red fez, who unleashes the terrible power of the bullwhip on Denholm Elliot.

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[Anonymous Coward]

If it's the guy I'm thinking of, he stands there wielding a big sword kinda thing, ready to chop Indy to pieces, and then Indy pulls out a gun...

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[Mycroft_VIII]

All this talk of Indy ageing gracefully reminds me of League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. Take a look at Sean Connery's character there.
While League didn't get the best reviews Connery shure gave the right impression of a semi-retired adventurer, It's been a while, I'd have to re-watch to see if his lines were any good, I'm talking Connery's acting and most of all preseance(then again what else would you expect from Connery).

Mycroft

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[Thomas Miconi]

# Guns, and Indy saying how much he hates them.

Excuse me ? Are we talking about Indiana "do you fancy saber dance all you like I'll just shoot you down with my gun thank you very much" Jones here ?

Thomas--

Re:Checklist for Harrison.

[PalmMP3]

I can't remember offhand the big guy in Crusade or how he died...

That's because he didn't. Pat Roach's only part in LC was extremely small (more of a cameo): he is the guard you see running with Col. Vogel toward the zeppelin yelling and waving at the pilot not to take off yet.

Oh, and the bonus DVD has him in a deleted scene: a short clip of Indy (in his "ticket-collecter" disguise) knocking him unconscious in the hallway of the zeppelin.

I can see it now

[skingers6894]

A pistol holster and clip for his whip on either side of the walking-frame...

So Ford is old

[cpt kangarooski]

That's not the end of the world. Maybe the script is a rip-off of Bubba Ho-tep.

indiana jones

[MichaelGospatric]

This is good news, I am definitely looking forward to it.

But they are really milking these trilogies from 20 years ago. I wonder if they will come up with original ones at some point in the future, or if their careers are winding down.

Re:indiana jones

[Anonymous Coward]

Umm Indian Jones was not a trilogy. Its been three movies but when was it set in stone to be a trilogy. Its just sequals like James bond movies

what if

[WilyCoder]

What if Indy was a dad, like Sean Connery was? Suddenly all the complaints of old age fade away...

Re:what if

[NanoGator]

"What if Indy was a dad, like Sean Connery was? Suddenly all the complaints of old age fade away..."

Are you kidding? It'd fuel a new breed of complaints.

The problem with movie sequals, ESPECIALLY with movies that have already had a couple of them, is that people start seeing rules getting formed. Suddenly, everybody KNOWS how to make a sequal for that franchise. When one of thoes rules is broken, suddenly people rise and argue with it. (Usually passing this off as intelligence.) Even devastating rationale won't shut them up. Don't believe me? Go look for fanboy discussions on Episode III.

pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Leontes]

We had just watched Last Crusade for the fourth time, freshman in highschool, loving the ford/connery interaction, still jazzed about the marvelous escape into the crevice from petra's treasury. This idiot senior responded to my vague hope that they would make a fourth film, with self-righteous incredulity. "It was the LAST crusade get it? Get it?" Rolling his eyes, knowingly. I then proceeded to attempt to explain how the crusade was actually a reference to the fact that indiana et al were searching for the holy grail much like crusaders during the middle ages, but the person looked at me like I was nuts. He wouldn't hear of it, wouldn't listen to my insistence on a better, correct interpretation of the title. My inability to get through to this idiot still haunts me to this day: I'm far more able to explicate my points and get through to idiotic self-righteous assholes, but I feel like I failed this git. Hopefully, wherever this refuse is now, he'll hear this news and recognize what an idiot he was and have a moment of quiet reflection on how he shouldn't have been so sophmoronic.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Volvogga]

We're all happy for you.....

Moving on.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[iammaxus]

Funny thing is, chances are, this sophomoric senior (lame, i know..) long ago forgot about the incident and is, as we speak, having sex with more beautiful women then you will ever have a chance with, notwithstanding your immensely greater intellectual capabilities.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[complete loony]

Wait, you're posting to slashdot to *avoid* idiotic self-righteous assholes?

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Anonymous Coward]

You wasted you life dwelling on it. Congratulations.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Anonymous Coward]

where's the -1 Pathetic option?

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Johnny Mnemonic]

You have to get over High School. I know, I know, it took me a long time, and not a few recreational drugs, for me to as well. But, as they say, the best revenge is to live well.

Really, it was only 4 years. At this point in my life, I've owned socks for longer than that.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[miyako]

Wish I had modpoints... someone mod this up funny, or perhaps insiteful.
congrats, you just made my friends list.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Anonymous Coward]

Holy shit, you're still "haunted" by a frickin comment made to you in High School??

Get over it already! Geez, see a shrink and show him your post. After about $1000 of therapy, maybe you'll have the self esteem to live a normal life.

Un-be-frickin-leavable!

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Anonymous Coward]

How is this Interesting? Blah blah blah, I write unwieldy sentences, but claim excellent communication skills! My post reads like something out of an whiny high school livejournal and, OMG, there's one linked in my sig!

Please, good people, if you have the points, mod this thing into oblivion.

PS: I am not a script, and I'm having trouble reading the new captcha. What gives?

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[milimetric]

some things you just have to let go man...

no... just le.... no! just let it go!

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[Leontes]

We had just been cruising Slashdot that night for the fourth time, geeks of the oldskhool, loving the linux/os x shrillaction, still jazzed about the Tiger's release outstripping longhorn's vaporware inaction. This idiot poster responded to my vacuous though personal story regarding some sort of altercation in highschool, with self-righteous incredulity. "How is this Interesting? Blah blah blah, I write unwieldy sentences, but claim excellent communication skills!" Rolling his eyes, knowingly. I then proceeded to attempt to demonstrate how his response was missing the point entirely, that there was irony implicit in my post underscored by a saliency that resonated with many people also reading the forums, but the person looked at me like I was nuts. He wouldn't hear of it, wouldn't listen to my insistence on a better, more compelling conversation regarding individual events and memory. My inability to get through to this idiot still haunts me to this day: I'm usually far more able to explicate my points and get through to idiotic self-righteous assholes, but I feel like I failed this git. Hopefully, wherever this refuse is now, he'll hear read this news and recognize what an idiot he was and have a moment of quiet reflection on how he shouldn't have been so sophmoronic.

Re:pay attention, you faceless bully of snippiness

[fakedupe]

iammaxux is correct.

I did and I am and you're still wrong!

No, but a R rated version would be cool

[John Seminal]

There is so much that can not be done with a PG movie. Everyone spazed because the Star Wars Sith flick was rated PG-13.

Imagine what could be done with an R Indy movie. We could examine more of Indy's character. Instead of the bedroom doors closing, and the next scene being in the morning, we could see how Indy negotiates the night away. Imagine seeing Indy in a hot tub with two big hooters in his face. And he gets the girl because he is a nerd, he gets the girl because he talks to her about archeology.

Or better yet, maybe the next Indy flick will have Indy's busty young daughter, who just turned 18 and went on her first excovation. Imagine the possibilities.

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[eric17]

"Imagine seeing Indy in a hot tub with two big hooters in his face. And he gets the girl because he is a nerd, he gets the girl because he talks to her about archeology."

Indiana Jones and the Nipples Of Doom...

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[ocelotbob]

No, you don't need sex in an Indiana Jones movie. I am not a prude by any means. I like sex; I just need sex in a graveyard, an elevator, and an orgy to fill my slut bingo card. That being said, explicit sex in the indy movies would ruin the mood of the film. They're a throwback, a goofy adventure movie like was done in the 30s. Yes, we know the hero gets the girl and they have hot kinky monkey sex, but we don't need to see it. Not every movie needs to have the jizzmopper on standby, y'know.

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[PinkX]

Exactly. Most of the Indiana Jones character and adventures are based off that one of Gunga Din, which itself was written by Rudyard Kipling (of The Jungle Book fame). All this holds true specially for The Temple of Doom: located in India, is about the Thuggee cult and features the British army.

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[QuantumG]

I just need sex in a graveyard, an elevator, and an orgy to fill my slut bingo card.

Uhh, so what you're saying is all you've got circled so far is "parent's bedroom"?

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[pboulang]

Indiana Jones and the Nipples Of Doom...

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Poon

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[clem]

And, presumably, the free space.

Re:No, but a R rated version would be cool

[ocelotbob]

While I have done that, it was in the bedroom of a friend's parents. Sex on a tempurpedic bed is nice. I'm kinda partial to the vanilla outdoor sex, though the outdoor transvestite sex does have its appeal too. Hot tub sex is good as well, but swimming pool sex is better - easier to get into a comfortable position. Strip mall parking lot was mmeh, but movie theater was fun and risky. And threesomes are better than foursomes; foursomes are just two pair, threesomes, everyone gets to play with everyone.

Fate of Atlantis?

[eddy]

So is it based on the Fate of Atlantis?

Re:Fate of Atlantis?

[anttik]

I doubt it but it should. Fate of Atlantis rocked and it would have a lot of potential as a movie as well.

Where are you Kenner?

[ebooher]

[FANBOY]
Well, I'm not sure about this one. I mean, I would love to see the original Raiders of the Lost Ark, cleaned up and ready to rock on the big screen again. Mainly because I still buy the occasional toy and have been so buried by the amount of Star Wars figures the last decade that I'm ready for a change. Come on, we *need* an Indy line again. Just look at the Disney exclusives from the theme park. They still sell well on ye ol' eBay.
[/FANBOY]

Though, that being said, I'm not sure what they could do to the Indy movies sfx wise that would change them. With Star Wars, there is always a new alien to add in the background or spaceships on the huge expanse of space. But Indy? What would they do there? Add more spiders in the opening sequence? More dying Nazi's when they open the Ark? Raiders was never really a sfx power house. Didn't need to be, set in WWII and all, the tech to produce that is readily available and has been for 50+ years.

*sighs* I grew up on Indy, more so than Star Wars anyway. I've always enjoyed Star Wars, but the Indy series always meant more to me. Besides 3/4" scale Harrison Ford's just look cooler with a fedora instead of a blaster.

However, if they go through and recolor the fedora in every scene a nice Ferrari Red, someone dies.

Re:Where are you Kenner?

[beetlefeet]

Well he does shoot a guy who is brandishing a couple simitars 10 metres away. That's a pretty non cuddly thing to do don't you reckon?

I'm sure they could justify it to themselves to make that guy throw a sword or 2 before Indy shoots.

/shudder

Re:Where are you Kenner?

[Dancin_Santa]

In the re-released version, Lucas has the scimitar guy shooting first.

Re:Where are you Kenner?

[breon.halling]

And it's no longer a scimitar; it's a walkie-talkie.

Potential Titles they are kicking around

[lobsterGun]

Indiana Jones and the Magical Walker.

Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Viagra

Indiana Jones and the Grandchildren that never call.

Indiana Jones: Barely Alive

Indiana Jones: The Exploitation Sequel

Re:Potential Titles they are kicking around

[baadger]

That's only five, you haven't go a trilogy duet yet.

Re:Potential Titles they are kicking around

[niktemadur]

Indiana Jones Reloaded.

Indiana Jones Beyond the Thunderdome.

The Passion of the Indiana Jones.

Indiana Jones: A Space Odyssey.

Indiana Jones: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

Re:Potential Titles they are kicking around

[Xyrus]

You forgot:

Inidiana Jones and The Cure for Incontinence

Indiana Jones and The Curse of the Broken Hip

Indiana Jones: Raiders of The Lost...zzzzzzzz

Indiana Jones: What? Oh yeah...Raiders of The Lost...Lost...what were talking about?

Indiana Jones and the Last Nap

Indiana Jones in Korea

Indiana Jones: The Search for his Illegitimate Grandchildren

Indiana Jones and the Race of Golden Wheelchair

Indiana Jones: Revenge of the Phisher

~X~

Re:Potential Titles they are kicking around

[Anonymous Coward]

> Indiana Jones: The Exploitation Sequel

I think you're confused--that's the title of the *Star Wars* sequels coming out later...

Indy 4 script...

[DigiMan]

Ages ago I ran across this "unofficial" Indiana Jones 4 screenplay by Jeff Boam, the author of 1,2 and 3... I doubt that it has anything to do with the new film that they're working on... but then again, if some "anonymous author" did write it as a hoax, then why on earth wouldn't their name apear somewhere on it? I mean, a screenplay is a LOT of work to write!
Indiana Jones 4
...BUT for the longest time, I couldn't wait for this film to happen... and then from the time I originally saw the above link (probably 6+ years ago), to now, I started to loose hope...

Go Indy!!!

Re:Indy 4 script...

[beetlefeet]

Started reading it, seems cool. I just thought I'd mention a typo/spelling mistake I saw though:

"the sight" refering to "the site" seems unlikely the person who wrote 1,2 and 3 would spell site wrong...

I guess it could be an early draft without much of any editing/checking though.

Re:Indy 4 script...

[DigiMan]

Good catch - totally missed that one :)

Re:Indy 4 script...

[beetlefeet]

Another bad one:

"Good Riddin's"
vs
"Good Riddance"

Seems very amateurish the more I read.

Pretty sure it's pretty fake. But it's something to do at work :P

I hope ...

[ssand]

I hope the script isn't as bad as the scripts for Star Wars Episode 1, 2, and 3.

Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[rice_burners_suck]

The first three Indiana Jones movies were classic and beautiful. The movie felt realistic and compelling, in much the same way as the original three Star Wars movies.

I sincerely hope that Lucas won't royally fsck up Indiana Jones part 4 like he did with the Star Wars prequel(s). (I only watched the first one in the theater. It sucked so much that I skipped the second one entirely. My friends say the third is ok, so I'll wait until it gets to the cheap theater and then check it out.)

The biggest problem with the prequel(s) is this: The first three movies (meaning, episodes 4 through 6) used special effects in moderation. Costumes were consistent from one scene to the next and between movies. Everything appeared as it should. Yes, there were special effects, as we obviously don't have starships to fly around and film. But most of the movie's genius was in the simplicity and creativity of its photography and setting selection. Scenes were filmed in the desert, or in a forest, and these appeared quite realistic. Unfortunately, the prequel(s) were much more about special effects than good film technique. Even the acting sucked. And need I mention that the costumes and technology are not consistent, neither with the original three movies, nor from one scene to the next in the prequel(s). This damaged the movie, rather than provide added value.

I really have a feeling that Indy 4 will be all about special effects and corny acting than a compelling movie like the first three in that series, and that guess is based on past experience with Lucas. (Speilberg, I don't know, he still has some sense, I suppose, so hopefully he'll balance it out.)

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[TheTopher]

I thought Star Wars III had excellent acting. Their amazing acting made the dialogue look bad. Or maybe both were bad to begin with...

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[cybpunks3]

That is the fear. However, the difference between an Indy movie and the SW Prequels is that Lucas wouldn't be directing.

In the prequels, Lucas surrounded himself with yes men who were too grateful to be associated with the "legend" to talk back to him.

Spielberg is a true contemporary of Lucas' and has no reason to pull punches. He would not let the Indy franchise go down with bad dialogue in order to save Lucas' ego.

Spielberg doesn't direct movies the way Richard Marquand did in ROTJ. He would not just be a puppet for Lucas. He would be able to make it work. He would let Lucas do what he's good at, which is come up with good action choreography, and fill in the rest.

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[Anonymous Coward]

you know what confuses me about your post? the fact that you admit that you haven't seen episodes II or III, but then you go on to rant and rant about them.

also, no idea why you keep writing "prequel(s)" instead of just "prequels"

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[Osty]

You said:

I only watched the first one in the theater. It sucked so much that I skipped the second one entirely. My friends say the third is ok, so I'll wait until it gets to the cheap theater and then check it out

and later:

Unfortunately, the prequel(s) were much more about special effects than good film technique. Even the acting sucked. And need I mention that the costumes and technology are not consistent, neither with the original three movies, nor from one scene to the next in the prequel(s). This damaged the movie, rather than provide added value.

Perhaps I'm the only one wondering how you can make judgements about movies you haven't seen? Besides, of all the criticisms you could make, you've chosen the silliest: costumes. Watch the prequels again. The costumes are consistent. Perhaps you're referring to Padme/Amidala's penchant for changing outfits frequently in the Phantom Menace (that was part of her character as Queen of Naboo), but otherwise I have no idea what you might mean by this criticism. Character costumes were consistent within a movie, and while they did change across movies (as they did in the original trilogy, in case you didn't notice), they still stayed consistent within a character's style.

As for consistency in costume and technology between the prequels and the original trilogy, perhaps you should finish watching the last two films in the prequel trilogy before making that claim. You can easily see how the clone trooper armor and vehicles evolved into the costumes and technology of the empire in the original trilogy. Remember, there's ~20 years between episode 3 and episode 4, and there were ~10 years between episode 1 and episode 2 -- look back to technology (particularly computers and cars) and clothing from the 70s and 80s compared to today and draw your own conclusion about how quickly technology and fashion can change. For example, if you would've bothered to watch Episode 3 you'd have seen, among other things, an early Correllian gunship (the rebel cruiser at the beginning of episode 4), an early precursor to the X-wing starfighters from 4-6, and the change in republic officer uniform to what you'll later see as the imperial officer uniform in 4/5/6.

I won't claim that the prequel trilogy was good. The acting was horrible across all three movies (episode 3 was by far the best, but "best" is very relative here), and Lucas made a lot of odd changes (midichlorians?) to core story items. I'm simply saying that you might want to finish watching episodes 2 and 3 before you make these kinds of claims.

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[Eugene]

I totally agree. even if the script is good, it doesn't mean the final product is what we expected.

IMHO, the entertainment itself has changed over the years drastically. what we expect to be entertaining might not be what others perceive to be. or what the publisher/producer want the public to have. What I like in a movie is a good storyline, but a lot of people like special effects and movie stars over a good story line, they think entertaiment means lots of special effects and lots of TnA... who knows?

and the same can be applied to a lot of things. Movies, Novels, and computer games all heading to the directly of commercialization (hey, this is business afterall.) and there are enough people/luser/suckers willing to pay the money and get entertained. unless people's show it otherwise, it's going to continue the same trend... until there's no money left to make.

what start out as hobby/art/special talent, all comes down to business now, it become a tool of making money.

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[inkswamp]

I sincerely hope that Lucas won't royally fsck up Indiana Jones part 4 like he did with the Star Wars prequel(s). (I only watched the first one in the theater. It sucked so much that I skipped the second one entirely. My friends say the third is ok, so I'll wait until it gets to the cheap theater and then check it out.)

Oh, so you have formed an opinion on the prequels without actually having seen them all. Suddenly, the incessant whining around here makes a little more sense.

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[evilviper]

Spielberg is a true contemporary of Lucas' and has no reason to pull punches. He would not let the Indy franchise go down with bad dialogue in order to save Lucas' ego.

I hate to tell you, but Spielberg is second only to Lucas in his huge ego, and making of crappy movies in recent times.

Remake of "E.T." with radios instead of guns
"The Lost World" (Jurassic Park II)
"A.I." a bland mix of Pinoccio and Blade Runner
"The Terminal"
etc.

I'm very concerned that this Indiana Jones movie is going to be the "Terminator 3" of the series... the one that ruins all the rest of them.

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[TuringTest]

Oh, so you have formed an opinion on the prequels without actually having seen them all. Suddenly, the incessant whining around here makes a little more sense.

You mean, he can't have a separate opinion on each one of them?

I did the same thing, and have watched Episode II last week for the first time. The story was a little bit better than in Episode I (not difficult, because it haven't any story at all). But the movie was boring, the FX were plain and the acting was as bad as everybody had previously told me.

So yes, one can have a very good sense of what a movie will be by only seeing other works from the same director.

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[Anonymous Coward]

you like everyone else is forgetting one thing, harrison ford.
he is big enough now and the most important character of the film that he can call shots too and SS and GL have to deal with it.
why do you and everyone else think that harrison ford is going to sit there and let himself make a stinking pile of shit?

Re:Lucas will screw it up, I'd wager...

[rice_burners_suck]

Nah, Harrison Ford won't do Jack Schitt. His agent's agent's agent will do all the work to make sure that Ford won't turn himself into a stinking pile of anything. Once all the arguing and legal problems are out of the way, Ford will just do the acting, get a huge check, and go home.

Re:Cold war. Classic dames.

[samnice]

"There have been rumors about various scripts that supposedly are set in the 1950s, have Soviets for enemies, and include Indy's brother and a lost continent. Although many fans hope that Atlantis is the central point of the story, Lucas mentioned a while ago that he plans for Adam and Eve to play a large part in the movie, leading most to believe that the Garden of Eden will be the main point of the movie."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones

sounds good to me, whatever it is. i wouldn't mind a little ILM updating for the old dog. Indy has always been a favorite of mine, but i wonder what else might have to change to meet the new markets of today.

In Defense of AI

[Karma Sucks]

AI was an awesome movie, IMHO. Also, check this out:

http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/48/ai.htm

where's ford?

[teknokracy]

Heh, he hasn't read it because he's working down the road from my house, filming/producing/acting in a movie. The signs say "Antonio". BY THE WAY Is it just me or can nobody see the stupid letters behind the evil black lines on the "type the random text shown here" image?

Re:where's ford?

[dbcad7]

Had same problem with lines you did earlier.. so bad had to leave and come back to get a more readable set of letters. I think it could use an option to refresh for another set

Re:where's ford?

[Anonymous Coward]

BY THE WAY Is it just me or can nobody see the stupid letters behind the evil black lines on the "type the random text shown here" image?

This is quite normal. It just means you're a script.

MOD PARENT FUNNY

[ggambett]

...can't be seriously proposing Jim Carrey as Indy, right?

I don't think I could handle a replacement

[Delilah Jones]

Seriously.

Why don't you think they are going to do the original three Star Wars movies again?

Because we already have too many preconceptions and expectations as to the characters' appearances, mannerisms, etc.

I seriously think I would need a LOT of therapy if they make Indy a different actor. I love James Bond and all, but that actor swapping really tripeed me out.

And Jim Carrey? Dude. DOOOODE. I hope you were kidding. (Everyone knows that Indiana Jones has a butt-chin. P-sha!)

Re:I don't think I could handle a replacement

[fishbowl]

"I love James Bond and all, but that actor swapping really tripeed me out."

What about Dr. Who? The actor swapping is part of the appeal! But, then again, Jones was setup from the beginning to be one in the same with Ford, so it would be strange.

Does the script call for an aging Jones? That's the only way it would really work. Otherwise you'd really have to go to a *completely* different actor, and certainly not a look-alike. How about Mos Def?

The sequel to Silence of the Lambs failed IMO because they could not get Jodie Foster. I cannot think of any other examples right now.

Re:All hell is breaking loose at OSNews!

[Anonymous Coward]

Why isn't there a similar outrage here? Far worst travesties to the readers and subscribers have occured and the readers have largely been silent.

Re:Jim Carrey, indeed!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

You're the type of jerk that chased Dave to Africa and made me not have Chappelle's Show this season. I hate you, and I'm modding you overrated for it.

Re:All hell is breaking loose at OSNews!

[Anonymous Coward]

That's probably because Slashdot has become like the United States, in that it is complacent with it's journalistic shortcomings. The truth just plain doesn't matter, as long as the site gets its ad revenue.

OSNews, on the other hand, is far more like Europe. Correctness and integrity are a must, and that is why there has been so much strife over this editorial oversight. There is a revolution occurring over there that is amongst the worst the Internet has ever seen. But in the end freedom and truth will prevail.

Re:Jim Carrey, indeed!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Too late

OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[eno2001]

Wow. You are the only other person I've ever run into who liked this movie for what appear to be the same exact reasons that I liked it. Everyone I know who has seen it tells me how depressing it is. A friend I showed it to told me to never show him a movie like that again. To this day, he still reponds to any movie I'm going to show him with, "it's not like A.I., is it"?

I thought it was a beautiful movie with a melancholy, poignant ending. Interestingly enough, I hadn't seen Pinnocchio since 1978, so I recently rewatched it (I just got a daughter in October 2004 and I'm building up a library of movies to show her) and I was amazed with how much of it was reproduced in A.I. Again, I would have to say this is probably Spielberg's best work on many levels (I'm sure the Kubrick portions really raised the bar a good deal too).

Anyway... just thought I'd echo your post since it's a rare person who "gets" the idea of machines with feeling.

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[kevcol]

Hey! I got one of those machines with feeling too!

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[PakProtector]

I second the emotion. That movie made my cry like I haven't cried since the first time I read The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress and got to the end.

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[firephreek]

I think that an understanding of the movie is enhanced if the person watching has experienced the loss of a close loved one. If you've lost someone like that, some of the movie can just be overwhelming and some of the rest of it makes more sense. Somepeople just don't get it and that's fine. It's all opinions anyways. But there should be, at the very least, an appreciation for the artwork and cinematography. Overall, it was an incredible movie that I don't know if I'll ever be able to watch again.

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[Mycroft_VIII]

I hope you've gotten a chance to read "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls" and later Heinlein books then.
Trust me Brennan-monster, the reports of my death are greatly exagerated :)

Mycroft

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[Kinlan]

Why did you cry reading "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress"? are you a closset commie?

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[rikkards]

I too liked AI and thought the ending was suitable just like the ending for Seven as well if either had been different I would have thought it was a ripoff playing for the make you happy. For me the ending for AI was even though the robots had been oppressed to the point of being butchered for entertainment, they were able to overcome it and exist past the humans.

Also I really enjoyed TMIAHM as the book it is not for it's pro-communist subplot. But I definitely didn't cry at the end nor did I find any reason to. But then again I always thought Old Man and the Sea was about some old guy who went fishing.

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[Jesus_666]

I haven't lost a close loved one and to be honest I didn't get the movie. Or, more precise, the movie didn't move me the slightest. It didn't make me think - it didn't even make me try to parse the ending. To me it was just a lot of somewhat pointless eyecandy.

But after reading this thread I think I know what the movie was supposed to do... And I think that it's a movie with a very specific target audience. I probably don't have the prerequisites to properly appreciate it. Maybe I will, later.

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[PakProtector]

I liked Stranger in a Strange land. Haven't had alot of time to read RAH's stuff lately, though.

Poor Brennan-monster. Coulda killed Roy if he wasn't a family member.

Re:OT: A.I. is a Great Movie

[Mycroft_VIII]

I could envy someone who hasn't yet read all of Heinlien's works yet.
Unfortunately he passed away in 1988 so nothing new will be forthcomming.
Starting with "The Number of the Beast" he creates a meta setting to pull in characters from his various timelines together.

Mycroft

Hey!

[Black Parrot]

> Harrison better make sure it has all the essentials. It's not good to mess with the formula that geeks have come to know and love:

* Snakes, and Indy saying how much he hates them.
* Guns, and Indy saying how much he hates them.
* Nazis.
* A big nasty strong guy whom Indy defeats with cunning rather than brawn.
* A scrawny little guy with pince-nez glasses and a thick accent.
* An artifact of supernatural powers.
* A scene in which the terrible power of the artifact is realised.
* Hat and bullwhip.
* Sassy love interest.
* John Rhys-Davies in a red fez.
* Denholm Elliot stuttering his way through his lines.
* One or more booby traps.

Sounds like the details of the script have already leaked out...

Re:Hey!

[cowbutt]

Denholm Elliot stuttering his way through his lines.

He died nearly 13 years ago.

Re:Hey!

[Ubergrendle]

A few notes...

1. Denholm Elliot unfortunately has been dead for a number of years now...
2. Sassy love interest? Calista Flockhart will be the female lead, I don't think she can do sassy.
3. booby (traps). See #2.

Sorry to break it to you...

[Hamster Lover]

but Lucas was instrumental in the creation of Indiana Jones as the original movie was born out of ideas each bounced off the other on a vacation to Hawaii. It's a collaborative effort between the two.

According to Wikipedia, Indiana Jones is the combination of Spielberg's desire for a James Bond type movie with Lucas' love of the serialized "Republic" adventures of his childhood. Lucas even suggested the name "Jones" when Spielberg objected to the original name, a bland sounding "Indiana Smith".

In the production of the past Indiana Jones series, if memory serves, Lucas produced and Spielberg directed. So, if Lucas was going to fuck up the franchise he would have done so by now. I really wish they would explore an Atlantis theme along the lines of the "Fate of Atlantis" PC game, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Ooooh!

[ScrewMaster]

George Lucas approves! I guess it must be good then.

Harrison Ford has a better track record of picking good scripts. If he signs off on it I'll feel better.

Re:Ooooh!

[Verminator]

Harrison Ford has a better track record of picking good scripts. If he signs off on it I'll feel better.

Sarcasm, I trust.

Air Force One. K-19 The Widowmaker. Hollywood Homicide.

Hoo boy.

Re:Ooooh!

[GrassyNoel]

George Lucas approves! I guess it must be good then.

He approved Episode I, as well.

Just wait til this sucker hits 88

[ebooher]

Did someone mention De Lorean?! Oh, no, wait you just mentioned Back to the Future, sorry.

"A flying De Lorean? I haven't seen one of those in ... thirty years."

What they need is Harrison Ford in a De Lorean going back in time to a younger self so he can continue to play Indy forever.

Me Personally

[Ecko7889]

I think a fourth Indy movie would be great under certain curcumstances:

It's not out there to just make money and pull a "Episode III".

I think Harrison Ford could play Indy, although older, he would be wiser, and more like Sean Conery, his father .

If it is another actor, he still would have to be decently old, mid 40's. I don't think people would want a 20 year old hunk playing Indy.

The industry is trying to milk all it can out of old movies, but I don't think Spielburg has a record of just using movies to suck the hell out of Americas wallets. He's rich enough to do what he wants....

Re:All hell is breaking loose at OSNews!

[Anonymous Coward]

We got rid of Michael "I murdered Censorware.org in broad daylight, and proud of it" "Censoring fuck" Sims. It took a few years, but he was fucking killed with an icepick in Mexico City like Trotsky.

Just like the son of a bitch responsible for these captchas, we shall see if he has a job in a few years.

Joggle my man boobs.

... just Harrison' Ford's approval

[Infonaut]

with only Harrison Ford still required to sign off on the project before it can go into pre-production.

Whew! THAT'S ALL!!

Ford and Connery - that's an awesome combination

[KrisCowboy]

Harrison Ford is 63 years old. And as a matter of fact, he doesn't look his age and hasn't lost *any* of his old charms. It would be hard to imagine some one else as Indy. Can't express all my anxiety looking forward to the next Indy movie. Hey, Sean Connery is still playing Henry Jones right? The Last Crusade was by far the best Indy movie out of the three (Temple of Doom the worst, BTW). I hope the 4th one would top the list.

The real problem with the prequel FX...

[solios]

Eps IV-VI pushed the technology. Sound, motion control, matte work, etceteras. Used with skill and moderation for budgetary reasons.

I-III don't do anything that anything else on the market hasn't already done, and in most cases done better (Fifth Element and Galaxy Quest had vastly better non-humans, imo). Not only that, the effects work is so totally OVERKILL that it stops being "special", rockets right past "obvious" and settles down into "boring as hell."

Late in my academic career (3d effects and animation), I saw Episode I and Fear And Loathing in Las Vegas around the same time. Fear And Loathing was a vastly superior movie in every sense of the term - it ripped through my fanboi sensibilities like a nuclear test and left me wondering what, exactly, it was that I liked about movies.

Didn't take much for me to realize that what I like and what Lucas (and the Wachowskis, but that's another story) delivers is well below the level of what I'm looking for. "OOOH! PRETTY!" was great when I was eight, but I'm not eight anymore.

Re:The real problem with the prequel FX...

[inkswamp]

Fifth Element

Are you joking? That film was the most over-hyped, predictable, inconsistent pile of dung I've ever seen. It was one of those films where I caught myself thinkin "please be over in the next fifteen minutes" after the first hour. What a boring piece of crap. I still can't believe people compare that to Star Wars.

Re:The real problem with the prequel FX...

[16K Ram Pack]

At least the first Matrix had a lot more going on.

The real problem is that special effects are always going to be improved on, so you'd better have a lot more going on than that.

Re:The real problem with the prequel FX...

[solios]

Like SW isn't predictable. :P If anything, Ep3 is the most hyped pile of shit to see the light of day since Return of the King.

And it's still a shitload better than, say, Episode I. The dialogue, while campy, was bearable. "meat popsicle" versus midichlorians? Not much of a choice.

Say what you will about 5th Element, but I enjoyed it. It's fulfilling in many ways that Eps I-III fail to deliver on.

Randomly selected dude

[StandardsSchmandards]

Today I am that randomly selected dude and I choose to mod you "-1 Offtopic". I have a bad hair day.

Re:Randomly selected dude

[NanoGator]

"Today I am that randomly selected dude and I choose to mod you "-1 Offtopic". I have a bad hair day."

Heh. I once got a flamebait moderation over a comment I made about grilled chicken.

Re:Randomly selected dude

[ikkonoishi]

My mother is allergic to grilled chicken you insensitive clod.

Re:Randomly selected dude

[NanoGator]

"My mother is allergic to grilled chicken you insensitive clod."

I didn't say anything about your mom. Why are you being so fowl?

The second Indiana Jones movie wasn't that great

[jesterzog]

The first three Indiana Jones movies were classic and beautiful. The movie felt realistic and compelling, in much the same way as the original three Star Wars movies.

Perhaps I'm mis-remembering, or maybe we just have different opinions, but personally I thought that the second Indiana Jones movie wasn't anywhere near the standard of the other two.

Raiders was a lot of fun, with both the script and the acting. It also had several very strong characters, including Marion Ravenwood, who's possibly one of the best female characters to have come out of a 1980's Hollywood movie.

In the Temple of Doom, this was all traded in for what seemed to be the boring stereotypical mid-80's movie formula at the time: a whinging helpless city girl being dragged along on an adventure, repeatedly made to look stupid by both Indy and an irritating 10-year old boy. The plot and the acting were both below standard.

I thought that Last Crusade was back to the original standard, though.

Indianna Jones is a really cool movie trilogy, and to be honest it's one of my favourites. I don't think you can look at it, though, and claim that it was classic and beautiful. I might go as far as saying that about two of the movies, but it severely trailed off in the middle. Maybe Lucas just got lucky with the original Star Wars movies.

Hellboy/Indy

[immerrath]

I think they should do a Indiana Jones/HellBoy archeological supernatural artifact finding, nazi-ass kicking crossover movie. Yeah. That'd be awesome.

Re:Hellboy/Indy

[ScrewMaster]

Hopefully that would work out better than Predator vs. Alien.

Hello

[zhenga]

I'm selling these fine leather jackets.

Wrong media

[SuperKendall]

I prefer crates, myself.

I thought we were talking about a new movie, not a new videogame...

1% Inspiration But 99% Perspiration

[reporter]

With all due respect to George Lucas, I would prefer that Lucas confine himself to developing the overall game plan. He suggests the big picture and the major points in the plot.

Then, Steven Spielberg concentrates on the details. He fleshes out the plot, and Harrison Ford throws in the ad lib.

In short, Lucas should be the inspiration, and Spielberg should be the perspiration. Star Wars I & II is sufficient reason to keep Lucas in check.

As for the plot, since Harrison Ford is much older now, the appropriate theme would be something in the 1960s because the prior Indy films were set in the 1940s. The great tyrrany in the 1960s is, of course, mainland China and the Chinese occupation of Tibet. We could have Dr. Jones trekking to Tibet to find some lost artifact after first consulting with the Dalai Lama. Spielberg could throw in some old footage of the Chinese waving their little red Mao books at the height of the cultural revolution. There is also some old footage of Chinese soldiers randomly shooting at Tibetans.

Since Ford is a Buddhist and an admirer of the Dalai Lama, he would likely support such a plot.

Re:1% Inspiration But 99% Perspiration

[MBraynard]

You demonstrate perfectly the flaw in American's knowledge of history and how stupid it is to take lessons from celebrities.

The great tyrrany in the 1960s is, of course, mainland China and the Chinese occupation of Tibet.

No, while China was a huge problem and still is, Tibet was a small part of that. The principal tyrrany of the 1960s was Communism and was embodied in the Soviet Union. Are you aware that such a place ever existed? Are you aware of the tens of millions of Russians and other Slovaks who were slaughtered as part of it? Or even the millions killed in China by Mao?

But no, we here you whining about Tibet. Please.

Re:1% Inspiration But 99% Perspiration

[Anonymous Coward]

How about casting Ford on the side of the Chinese and set it in Vietnam? There were bigger things happening in the Sixties than Tibet.

Re:1% Inspiration But 99% Perspiration

[identity0]

Well, Indy is, despite the action-hero trappings, supposed to be an archieologist. All of Indy's adventures tie in to the search for treasure or artifacts.

Medieval Russia or ancient China could serve as the source of the plot or the "McGuffin", but Tibet is more exotic - plus, it ties in to the 30's era serials and pulp novels or comics about Shangri-La, mystical Tibet, etc.

Re:1% Inspiration But 99% Perspiration

[robertjw]

Tibet is more exotic - plus, it ties in to the 30's era serials and pulp novels or comics about Shangri-La, mystical Tibet, etc.

Actually, they kind of used that in Raiders. If you remember, he flew to Nepal to find Professor Ravenwood and the headpiece for the staff. I know, Nepal isn't Tibet, but it's close.

Re:1% Inspiration But 99% Perspiration

[MBraynard]

True - for the purpose of a movie almost any location would work. Recall Temple of Doom? I was reacting to his statement suggesting that the biggest issue in 1960 was the invasion of Tibet - rather than Communism.

Don't do it, George!!!

[inkswamp]

Dear Mr. Lucas,

Please don't make another Indy movie. You see, no matter how well executed it is, no matter how well-conceived it is, no matter how grandiose your overall plans are, the fans will inevitably nitpick it to death and ruin it for the young generation (and the young at heart) your films are generally meant for. I'm afraid my generation, despite growing up with your magical films, has become whiny and pathetic and we bitch and moan when you don't do thing 100% exactly like we expect. We want you to be just like the McDonalds we also grew up with. Make the next Indy film the most perfect Big Mac with Large Fries or we'll scream and shout that you've raped our childhood and that you suck beyond all comprehension.

Quite frankly, I love your films, but I don't know if I can handle another heaping, steaming pile of "fan" reaction yet again.

Thanks for hearing me out.

Re:Don't do it, George!!!

[atlasm]

Besides, Harrison is getting "old in the tooth". Time to update.

Re:Don't do it, George!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Quite frankly, I love your films

I think you meant Mesa Lovesa Yousa Filmsa.

Re:Don't do it, George!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

You see, no matter how well executed it is, no matter how well-conceived it is, no matter how grandiose your overall plans are, the fans will inevitably nitpick it to death and ruin it for the young generation

All this, Mr Lucase, while throwing their money at your uncontrollably. I don't know how you can bear it.

Re:Don't do it, George!!!

[belg4mit]

s/old/long/

doens't make much sense to use the word a euphemism
is intended to replace within it now does it?

Re:Don't do it, George!!!

[toddestan]

Quite frankly, I love your films, but I don't know if I can handle another heaping, steaming pile of "fan" reaction yet again.

Quite frankly, the Indiana Jones films are great, but do we really need another one? How about something original for a change?

Uh, oh ...

[Udo Schmitz]

From TFA (emphasize mine): "Lucas recently summoned Nathanson to his Bay Area headquarters, where they went over the draft."

Uh, oh ...

Oh dear god!

[interactive_civilian]

A terrible thought just came to me.

Can you imagine if they decide to re-release an "upgraded" Raiders of the Lost Ark? You remember the scene in the marketplace with all of they guys chasing Indy. The croud clears a circle and Indy is faced by a big guy with the sword. The guy shows off a bit swinging his sword around a lot. Then Indy just pulls out his gun and shoots the guy, and then walks away with a little grin on his face. (IMHO, one of the best scenes EVAR!)

Well, in the re-release he will wait and they guy comes charging at him. Indy dodges and then pistol-whips him on the back of the head and walks away with a remorseful look on his face because Lucas decides that he is really just a sensitive guy who would never shoot first, but only out of self-defense.

GAH! I think I need some mental-floss to clean that image out of my mind.

;p

It's not the age, it's the miles

[Anonymous Coward]

And BABY, Harrison's got a lot of miles on him.

This is like Never Say Never Again, with Sean Connery. The movie was more comedy than anything else. If they're putting Harrison Ford in there, I say put Vin Diesel in with him. Might as well work Judy Dench in there. Gary Oldman plays a good psycho, but you'd better put Christopher Walken instead, to keep the age gap narrow.

Hmmm...

[CJSpil]

I really hope that Harrison Ford is going to play the father of someone. Otherwise I can see it now...

"Indiana Jones and the Wheelchair of Destiny"

Ford and the script

[Theatetus]

Ford has yet to read the script.

Dag, what's taking him so long? The script's been on Gnutella for weeks!

Brief excerpt from the script:

[artemis67]

Hilter: Join me, Indy! Come over to the Nazi side!
Indy: No!
Hitler: Please?
Indy: OK! Do you have any children you want me to kill?

And best of all...

[artemis67]

the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL!

So in your face, Anonymous Coward!

What is possibly going wrong?

[frinkazoid]

mod points ... get your mod points today,
call us now, and we'll throw in some more posts about f*cking mod points.

Um,.. at the top if this page it says: "news for nerds, stuff that matters".
Lately I've been reading so much about everyones points I've begun to wonder whether it was some new pokémon-age craze.
So I went to look it up, I searched for mod-point playing cards, mod-point action-figures, mod-point clothes just mod-point merchandising. My search was unsuccesfull. (business opporuntity anyone ?)

C'mon guys, yo know it's just a populatity contest in a nonexisting nerd society ;)

Re:Ford and Connery - that's an awesome combinatio

[the_2nd_coming]

this one is to take place in the 50's or 60's.

You Are An EVIL Man!

[Schwarzchild]

and should be stopped at all cost!!! ;)

That line about replacing Ford with Affleck is the funniest thing I've seen in a couple of days.

Crates - hmmmm...

[Spy der Mann]

I prefer crates, myself.

Ah, so you took the puzzle path :)

There's Nothing to Learn

[Vagary]

I know they already trawled David's memories, but there would always be something new to learn from watching him interact with the construct.

You seem awfully sure that David is non-deterministic, which, frankly, I would consider an extraordinary claim even for Monica. Personally, I hope our new alien-robot overlords are corrected of the irrationality which would lead them to try and make David happy before they put him out of his misery and turn him off -- what difference does it make? But then I guess I'm not the touchy-feely target audience...

Re:All hell is breaking loose at OSNews!

[david_adams]

I hereby take this opportunity to resign as Publisher of OSNews, for the heinous crime of posting a submitted news item on a Memorial Day Weekend Sunday and only doing the most preliminary fact checking. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! I've been Punk'd.

I think that the comments on Slashdot is the perfect form for announcing my resignation.

Re: China plot

[Anonymous Coward]

Showing China as The Bad Guys? It's just not in harmony with the current US politic. China will ban the movie and surely someone will be upset... I don't believe this. Maybe in China, maybe Bad Guys but they will tweak something so Chinese (and Mao) will be good ones.

Any guesses for the title?

[Robotron23]

Mine is...Indiana Jones and the Lost Zimmer Frame :)

Re:Cold war. Classic dames.

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, the Bad Commies from USSR'50 are a desirable enemy for US movie. Dumb, short, fat and short-lived. Blah!

MOD PARENT UP!

[PalmMP3]

Why this hasn't been modded "hilarious" yet is beyond me...

True Story

[Anonymous Coward]

...well, it came from someone who works in film, so may not be 100% true. This was someone who told me in the same conversation that "Dargonheart" would be good.

In late 1995 I was at a party with someone who works in movie-marketing: renaming "the Soliders Wife" to "The Crying Game", editing trailers that sort of thing. He was periodically contacted by British tabloids (we are in the UK) for movie tips: he would just take the money and make up any old shit because they never checked and always came back for more. He had recently claimed that the next Indiana Jones film would be the search for Atlantis and was panicking because a week later he had found out it was "true" and might get blamed for the "leak" he had made up. Fortunately it seems that he had been duped the same way, and every slack jawed media whore makes up the same lazy Atlantis story and has been for over ten years!

If you want to see more of this sort of cocksuckery, check out any of the recent attempts at "spoilers" in the Daily Mirror and Daily Mail regarding the new series of Doctor Who, which show an hilarious lack of appreciation for what makes a convincing lie.

The Tibetans are Suffering

[Anonymous Coward]

I have a couple of points.

1. Like the Chinese, MBraynard takes the position that if a person criticizes one atrocity, that same person must be ignorant of other atrocities. Wrong, MBraynard. Are you Chinese? You act like one.

2. Second, the great slaughter in the Soviet Union happened in the 50s. The parent article is proposing a time frame in the 60s, which is the era of Kruschev.

3. Today, Russia is democratic. Tibet is still under the yoke of Chinese brutality. Highlighting Tibet on the big screen would be a big plus.

Finally, if you want to hurt the Chinese like MBraynard, here is what you do. The Chinese Communist Party often sends its kids to the USA to study and to enjoy the freedoms that are denied to the Tibetans. You befriend these elite Chinese students. Then find out their address in mainland China. Give this information to Korean vigilante groups. They will hunt down and kill the Chinese thugs and everyone in their family.

What I am proposing is perfectly legal and does not violate American laws. You have not committed a crime, but you have advanced the day of liberation for Tibet.

CORRECTION:

[PalmMP3]

by Jeff Boam, the author of 1,2 and 3...

BZZZZZZT!!!! WRONG ANSWER!!!! Jeffrey Boam did NOT write all three scripts.

Lawrence Kasdan wrote the script for Raiders.
William Huyck and Gloria Katz wrote the script for Temple of Doom.
Jeffrey Boam was the screenwriter ONLY for The Last Crusade.

Thanks for playing IndyTrivia! Be sure to take a complimentary door prize on your way out!

Re:The second Indiana Jones movie wasn't that grea

[Anonymous Coward]

In the special features disc of the Indiana Jones DVD set, it explains why The Temple of Doom was such a dark film. In the time it was made, George Lucas was going through a divorce, thus must've decided to spill his emotions onto the screen. Lucas even says this himself! (not in those words, exactly)

AAMOF, The Temple of Doom was actually the movie that got the movie industry to create the PG-13 rating (AFAIK). So maybe there was a little good out of that movie... incongruently?

Re:All hell is breaking loose at OSNews!

[Anonymous Coward]

pahahaha that shit was funny, now go fuck yourself with a chainsaw

Re:The Tibetans are Suffering

[MBraynard]

I'm going to ignore yout but for other readers will respond to the first part. The problem is the parent of my original post suggested that the big problem was China/Tibet - while ignoring that both were/are derived from the real menace - the Red one.

Re:what if Are we there yet ?

[wizardguy]

Yes I can see that. His kids yelling "Are we there yet ?" as he travels across the world searching for some lost artifact.

Eastwood's acting

[Stu Charlton]

You know, there's one litmus test about the quality of an actor, that the screenwriter William Goldman came up with: look at their staying power. Some actors aren't very good, but are popular. People are fickle; they tend to not to stay enamoured for long.

Goldman thinks (and I tend to agree) there's no modern actor that can top Eastwood. Look at each decade for the past 40 years -- from the 60's through now. He would be on a top-10 list each time in terms of popularity.

Now a lot of this depends on how you define acting. Eastwood isn't a method actor or a character actor. He's a macho actor -- the "reassuring presence", as you say. Whether that's actually "acting" may be debatable, but I'll note that not too many people can pull that off. And they try.

Thus demonstrating...

[absurdist]

...that geeks have little or no sense of humor, and take crap like the Indiana Jones movies WAY too seriously. Ever consider it might be a joke?