They chose a protection that was once law, to suggest that they got it right the first time.
I'd argue most movies make their profit in the first 5 years anyway. Theater, payperview, rentals, retail sales, bargain bin doesn't take all that long.
Most business managers wouldn't accept a payback in the tens of years anyway. It should pay back FAST or VERY large, or the project gets killed.
That is the point, if they only have a shelf life of 5 years, why do we need 100 years of copyright protection?
This is a real company proving that shorter terms will have a very small, if any effect on them. And provide a case study that short terms are effective.
(This is of course a bug in the application, not the system, but I though I'd mention it.)
And applications are in the OpenBSD "Base Install".
Which means the base install might very likely have some bugs, which is unacceptable.
I think one of the great appeals of OpenBSD is a very strong preference for known good as the target, rather then "good enough because it is so unlikely to happen".
10 Years ago you could do internet/email/word processing/spread sheets with just a 33MHz Intel 386 with 16 MB RAM. Today you need for the very same things a Pentium IV with 2 GHZ and 128 MB RAM.
I still use my p133 for many tasks, irc, email and personal server.
Web browsing on a 386/33, never did it, I had a 386/40. It was VGA (640x480 w16 colours), It was slow, the pages were simple. It was the only thing I could do at the time.
Now I browse with many windows, 24bit colour at higher resolutions (rarely anything as pathetic as 1024x768). I can play mp3's without skipping a beat, along with movies. I was glad to get a.mod playing on my 386 without skipping.
We've come a long way, we do have overkill for many applications, but it isn't all waste. I think too many people who complain aobut how excessive it is today forget how relatively wimpy it was before it became mainstream.
Does anyone else remember how cool it was to have a 486 that would dir a directory listing faster then you could read it?
This sounds like a poorly thought out plan by someone too lazy to try it.
More readable filesystem, yawn. You don't really need to look at it anyway, users only see their home directory.
People who pay get better servers, excellent idea.
Games and contests to keep people interested, uh yeah because flash is always the best way to create real value.
And some good quotes "The GPL provides little room for making money on software" "We will be good open source citizens, but we will protect some of our investment." "Even the minimal install will include every common system tool my develops can think of. We don't want anyone, anytime, to have dependancy problems."
I think this proposal is soo poorly thought out, it isn't even worth considering.
Sorry, the only consumers being ripped off are those who let themselves get ripped off. I generally don't buy CD's because they aren't worth that much money. This is my choice, it is a free market.
if you commit an illegal act If, not when some group merely accuses you of doing so. I think we should punish people AFTER they are convicted, not before.
This is a civil case, one group is asking for the private records of another, you should not have to turn over private information to any person who requests it.
When the police get a warrant, there is an impartial authority (the judge) who decides that such information is worth violating the one parties privacy.
The complaint is that there is no judicial oversite to these requests, and hence no protection for the individuals privacy.
The key point is that these people are being targetted despite not being convicted of a crime, or even charged. There isn't necessarily enough evidence to accuse them of a crime, which Verizon would like to happen first.
I'm young and arrogant and married so here are my answers.
1. How do we ditch the kids? Give them something interesting to do, hire a babysitter. Many things can be fun with kids along too.
2. Why do you pay more attention to your buddies than me? Don't pay more attention to them, you need "quality time" with your wife & family. You should have some compatible interests.
3. Why do you pay more attention to that computer than me? see #2
4. Do you think that woman's attractive? Yes, I do. What's with a bit of honesty, just because the 19yr old girl is hot doesn't mean your wife is a fat slob. Ask her what she thinks. Also sometimes you can be critical, pick on something dumb like the wrong coloured socks.
5. I can pay $100 for a new purse, but you can't pay $49.95 for a new game (see #3) Create a system of personal disposable income to spend, this allowance works quite well for me. (But I ran out of money a LOOONG time ago)
6. You don't care about my feelings. Ask what makes her feel that way. It's probaly something you didn't notice, guys are notoriously emotionally dumb.
7. You're not sensitive to my needs. Then tell me stuff obvious to you isn't obvious to me.
8. Why don't you do something constructive. I worked today, nothing critical needs to be done now, I'm taking a break you should take one too. If something critical needs to be done, you should do it, if it can wait, it can wait.
9. Rub my feet. Free gropeage? Move that into a leg massage, back massage, front massage and get it on. I don't see the problem.
10. Do we have to do that again? Why can't we just cuddle? Cuddle afterwards, afterplay is foreplay for the next time.
What I say:
1. How do we ditch the kids? above
2. Would you please stop grooming me! Groom her back, Victoria Secrets is nice.
3. Would you please stop parking in the dead center of the garage! Explain how you want to share the garage with her.
4. Would you please stop falling asleep in the dead center of the bed! I honestly don't know the answer to this one, I have given up.
5. Not everything is cooked on 10. Learn to cook, if you want something done right do it yourself.
6. For the last time, here's how to use the tivo. Make written directions.
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So some authority signs binaries what is the problem. I don't have to use their binary. I don't have to use their signature. I don't have to use their kernel.
Most of the comments suggest the GPL is developer-oriented whereas the EULA is user-oriented.
Oriented at the user maybe. From the article MS can alter your computer, gain information from your computer and redistribute it, without asking. gives Microsoft rights to collect information about the system and the its use gives Microsoft the right to supply this information to other organisations gives Microsoft the right to make changes to the computer without having to ask.
Doesn't sound user friendly to me.
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It isn't the tool, it is the job. When your job is adding 5+3, MS calculator works just fine. When your job is making sure everyone else can add 5+3 for now and in the future, and allow them all the freedom to modify that program (ie octal), then may MS Calculator isn't the write tool for the job.
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Isn't this the point of the GPL, to give others the same rights?
And since I can imaging signing binaries myself, I don't feel that I can disallow anybody else doing so.
I think all that is needed is for the product to do something useful. If I make or find something that does something useful, and actually works, it is a success.
I have several simple scripts that are successful, they simply do what I want.
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And several burnt CD's wouldn't be proof enough?
My point is they can't sue.
SCO distributed the code under the GPL, anyone including IBM can redistribute it under the GPL.
IBM didn't distribute it under any license other then the GPL, I don't see a violation.
SCO released a linux distribution.
At least the kernel was released under the GPL.
I would like to see how they explain that IBM GPL release of code is much more damaging then their own release, under the GPL, of that same code.
The fact that SCO has licenced others to redistribute this code under the GPL should make it pretty hard to get damages for others doing the same.
They chose a protection that was once law, to suggest that they got it right the first time.
I'd argue most movies make their profit in the first 5 years anyway.
Theater, payperview, rentals, retail sales, bargain bin doesn't take all that long.
Most business managers wouldn't accept a payback in the tens of years anyway. It should pay back FAST or VERY large, or the project gets killed.
That is the point, if they only have a shelf life of 5 years, why do we need 100 years of copyright protection?
This is a real company proving that shorter terms will have a very small, if any effect on them. And provide a case study that short terms are effective.
(This is of course a bug in the application, not the system, but I though I'd mention it.)
And applications are in the OpenBSD "Base Install".
Which means the base install might very likely have some bugs, which is unacceptable.
I think one of the great appeals of OpenBSD is a very strong preference for known good as the target, rather then "good enough because it is so unlikely to happen".
10 Years ago you could do internet/email/word processing/spread sheets with just a 33MHz Intel 386 with 16 MB RAM. Today you need for the very same things a Pentium IV with 2 GHZ and 128 MB RAM.
.mod playing on my 386 without skipping.
I still use my p133 for many tasks, irc, email and personal server.
Web browsing on a 386/33, never did it, I had a 386/40. It was VGA (640x480 w16 colours), It was slow, the pages were simple. It was the only thing I could do at the time.
Now I browse with many windows, 24bit colour at higher resolutions (rarely anything as pathetic as 1024x768).
I can play mp3's without skipping a beat, along with movies. I was glad to get a
We've come a long way, we do have overkill for many applications, but it isn't all waste. I think too many people who complain aobut how excessive it is today forget how relatively wimpy it was before it became mainstream.
Does anyone else remember how cool it was to have a 486 that would dir a directory listing faster then you could read it?
This sounds like a poorly thought out plan by someone too lazy to try it.
More readable filesystem, yawn.
You don't really need to look at it anyway, users only see their home directory.
People who pay get better servers, excellent idea.
Games and contests to keep people interested, uh yeah because flash is always the best way to create real value.
And some good quotes
"The GPL provides little room for making money on software"
"We will be good open source citizens, but we will protect some of our investment."
"Even the minimal install will include every common system tool my develops can think of. We don't want anyone, anytime, to have dependancy problems."
I think this proposal is soo poorly thought out, it isn't even worth considering.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/05/194223 6&mode=thread
They've been selling well for a while.
How much power?
You can block addresses, you can restrict ports and protocols.
Seems as though you have a lot of power.
The only good M&M is the green one anyway, what a woman!!!
My brother wastes his money in other stupid ways. Chrome exhaust tips don't make your car go faster.
Sorry, the only consumers being ripped off are those who let themselves get ripped off.
I generally don't buy CD's because they aren't worth that much money.
This is my choice, it is a free market.
if you commit an illegal act
If, not when some group merely accuses you of doing so.
I think we should punish people AFTER they are convicted, not before.
This is a civil case, one group is asking for the private records of another, you should not have to turn over private information to any person who requests it.
When the police get a warrant, there is an impartial authority (the judge) who decides that such information is worth violating the one parties privacy.
The complaint is that there is no judicial oversite to these requests, and hence no protection for the individuals privacy.
The key point is that these people are being targetted despite not being convicted of a crime, or even charged. There isn't necessarily enough evidence to accuse them of a crime, which Verizon would like to happen first.
I've been with my wife for 10 years now. Only married the last few though.
I freely admit that I'm young and stupid, which is probaly on of the the only good excuses out there.
I'm young and arrogant and married so here are my answers.
1. How do we ditch the kids?
Give them something interesting to do, hire a babysitter. Many things can be fun with kids along too.
2. Why do you pay more attention to your buddies than me?
Don't pay more attention to them, you need "quality time" with your wife & family. You should have some compatible interests.
3. Why do you pay more attention to that computer than me?
see #2
4. Do you think that woman's attractive?
Yes, I do. What's with a bit of honesty, just because the 19yr old girl is hot doesn't mean your wife is a fat slob. Ask her what she thinks. Also sometimes you can be critical, pick on something dumb like the wrong coloured socks.
5. I can pay $100 for a new purse, but you can't pay $49.95 for a new game (see #3)
Create a system of personal disposable income to spend, this allowance works quite well for me. (But I ran out of money a LOOONG time ago)
6. You don't care about my feelings.
Ask what makes her feel that way. It's probaly something you didn't notice, guys are notoriously emotionally dumb.
7. You're not sensitive to my needs.
Then tell me stuff obvious to you isn't obvious to me.
8. Why don't you do something constructive.
I worked today, nothing critical needs to be done now, I'm taking a break you should take one too.
If something critical needs to be done, you should do it, if it can wait, it can wait.
9. Rub my feet.
Free gropeage? Move that into a leg massage, back massage, front massage and get it on. I don't see the problem.
10. Do we have to do that again? Why can't we just cuddle?
Cuddle afterwards, afterplay is foreplay for the next time.
What I say:
1. How do we ditch the kids?
above
2. Would you please stop grooming me!
Groom her back, Victoria Secrets is nice.
3. Would you please stop parking in the dead center of the garage!
Explain how you want to share the garage with her.
4. Would you please stop falling asleep in the dead center of the bed!
I honestly don't know the answer to this one, I have given up.
5. Not everything is cooked on 10.
Learn to cook, if you want something done right do it yourself.
6. For the last time, here's how to use the tivo.
Make written directions.
So some authority signs binaries what is the problem.
I don't have to use their binary.
I don't have to use their signature.
I don't have to use their kernel.
If these things change, then we have a problem.
Most of the comments suggest the GPL is developer-oriented whereas the EULA is user-oriented.
Oriented at the user maybe.
From the article MS can alter your computer, gain information from your computer and redistribute it, without asking.
gives Microsoft rights to collect information about the system and the its use
gives Microsoft the right to supply this information to other organisations
gives Microsoft the right to make changes to the computer without having to ask.
Doesn't sound user friendly to me.
It isn't the tool, it is the job.
When your job is adding 5+3, MS calculator works just fine.
When your job is making sure everyone else can add 5+3 for now and in the future, and allow them all the freedom to modify that program (ie octal), then may MS Calculator isn't the write tool for the job.
Isn't this the point of the GPL, to give others the same rights?
And since I can imaging signing binaries myself, I don't feel that I can disallow anybody else doing so.
I think all that is needed is for the product to do something useful.
If I make or find something that does something useful, and actually works, it is a success.
I have several simple scripts that are successful, they simply do what I want.
I get callback validation less then 5% of the time.
try calling his local pizza place, and order several.
Because fraud is fun? Or you just want to cause trouble for innocent business owners.
Just don't tell anyone to use the bomb as a technical measure to conceal communications.
When I NAT/ipmasq am I obscuring the final destination?
Or am I merely not advertising the final destination.
If I covertly forward email back and forth between two people am I violating this law? or am I THE service provider?