âoeIn the past year or so, the engagement has been combative, with abrupt, disruptive policy changes that are being held without consultation, and, unusually, with absolutely no room for negotiation...â
I seriously do not get this at all. It's s no longer the 1800s, we can put up a clock that everyone can see that stops and starts when the ref hits the button. I mean, come on.
Saying we "care more about criminals than we do for victims" because someone thinks you should NOT be allowed to shoot someone who MAY be a Peeping Tom is just silly.
Thanks for the info. Regarding your last comment, I wasn't talking about why the article or folks here didn't mention flywheels. Just wondering if someone had some perspective on why flywheels are never mentioned for solving the intermittent generation problems of wind and solar.
It's not a bad apology I guess, but it still seems to ignore the main reason for all the trouble-- the firing of Victoria. I'm not sure whose anger she thinks she's answering.
Private schools do an excellent job of dumping high cost students (ADHD, special needs, etc) on the public schools, and then babbling about how they're more cost-efficient. Show me ONE private school that matches the public school's mandate to accept all "last resort" students, and then we'll compare efficiency. Good luck finding one. Until then, it's just comparing apples to lying assholes.
The reason documentation sucks in Linux is because programmers are writing it. It's not because of the myth that programmers can't write, it's because writing is not really their passion-- creating the programs is. I mean, give me a choice between fixing/improving my code and documenting it, and the choice is pretty damn obvious.
One thing I learned in my tech writing days-- programming ALWAYS outpaces code. ALWAYS. A business can keep that in check (or not, which is frequently and increasingly the case), but in FOSS the programmers are just going to run away with their passions (and rightfully so) while the documentation lags. Someone might try to write some documentation for software they love after the fact, but the FOSS release cycle is such that the documentation will be outdated before it's completed. Very unsatisfying.
Bad documentation is the price we pay for FOSS. Generally, I think FOSS is worth it.
If I had money lying around, I'd try to setup a clearinghouse for web boards dedicated to answering questions as they come up, and create the best damn search interface I could. In short, a better system of what we kinda of have now.
There's not a lot in it for the consumer. Surprise!
For Samsung, however, moving away from Android likely gets them out of an expensive and pointless proxy war with Apple. That's a big deal for Samsung.
Apple's Android vendetta has been about Holy Vengeance Upon Google from the beginning, not really about Samsung. If Samsung could gain a platform that they won't be sued over for including basic functions, Samsung could get back to the business of making smartphones, rather than being a professional defendant.
Making smartphones is actually something Samsung does phenomenally well. Also, Tizen is targeted at other gadgets (read: tablets and smart TVs), other areas of Samsung strength.
The downside for Samsung is that Tizen does not yet have an app-building community like iOS or Android, and it would take years to build one. This looks like Samsung testing waters to me.
Although the source code is open, part of the value proposition is to access the Android store. Google, by tying together search and access to the android store, is doing "bundling". Since they are probably a monopoly, this bundling of services may be illegal as is reduces competition (in search and in store services).
There's nothing that forces the device to use Android Market. Cell companies can and do provide alternatives, sometimes making them the dominant app store or eliminating the Android Market entirely.
And the answer is "Where it says it's about measured browser usage data in the first line of the summary".
Or if you actually read the article (yeah. right - you couldn't even read the first line of the summary), click on any of the links in the table and select by browser.
(Sigh).
Does it really have to be this way?
Despite your mean-spirited assertion, clicking the link DOES NOT provide any information about whether this is market share by: total browser views, unique browser, etc. It just asserts the nebulous term "market share" without any real explanation of what that meant or how it's calculated. When you click on the table link as you suggest, it just shows a breakdown by month. Click on the browser type, and it just shows the first table again, except only for whatever browser you chose. It doesn't answer my question at all.
Kind of like you.
Obviously, the Slashdot summary doesn't seem backed up by the document linked. You'd think you'd have noticed this since you read so diligently, but maybe flaming is more important to you.
The only thing dumber than a stupid RTFA flame is a RTFA flame where the flamer didn't really read the article or bother to understand the post. Grow up.
If they're talking about traffic VOLUME, how can you possibly compare internet access by Android when all those iPads are being lumped in here with the mobile phones?
Why wouldn't Archos, Acer Iconia, ASUS Eee Pad, Motorola Xoom, B&N Nook Color, Amazon Kindle Fire, and other tablets running Android be lumped in with Android traffic volume?
They would be. Do you think the numbers of Android tabs versus iOS tabs are so close as to be a wash?
With these statistics, it's just damn clear that the average Android user isn't using their phones for anything but "dumb phone with nice screen+keyboard" activities.
I'm not sure how you get that conclusion based on this. This metric appears to be saying nothing about how much devices are being used to do specific stuff, but we just don't know.
The metric here is, "Mobile/Tablet Top Operating System Share Trend", which is a pretty nebulous title. Share of what? Market share? How was it determined -- sales? Web access traffic at specific websites? IP traffic through certain ISPs? Which ones?
If they're talking about traffic VOLUME, how can you possibly compare internet access by Android when all those iPads are being lumped in here with the mobile phones? Surely iPad internet use-- streaming, for example, absolutely crushes internet use on smartphones.
I find it disappointing that NetMarketShare doesn't explain what it is they are measuring. If we knew what they were REALLY measuring, these numbers would provide some insight. But without knowing what these numbers are actually based on, it's just an excuse for everybody to just repeat what they always say anyway about iOS / Android / whatever.
This is flamebait but the parent isn't? Give me a break.
The above post made a legitimate point-- Apple is ALONE among the handset manufacturers in putting this crapware on their phone. We know this for many reasons, not least because Apple explicitly says they don't allow carriers to mitigate the Apple experience. It's possible some of the other manufacturers have done this, but since the carriers have the ability to do this themselves on the other platforms, it makes a lot of sense that they put this on when they put all their other junk on.
On the flip side, CIQ appears less nefarious on iOS and is certainly easier to disable. I can't believe I've got to root and mod my Samsung Vibrant to get this crapware off it.
>Apple and Microsoft pundits worry about this deal more than Google analytics. I'm not >saying that Google did it with ease in heart, but more or less they outplayed Billy and Jobs.
Billy is semi-retired. Google outplayed The Steves.
> For a tiny fraction of what they spent to buy MM they could have designed a new > mobile OS from the ground up and gotten some great press.
And what would have stopped AppleSoft from suing this NEW phone OS into oblivion using the same BS patents? Anyone? Buehler?
You can't engineer around patents that cover obvious functions. Apple has made it, uhm, patently clear they were going to destroy Android with BS patent litigation. Now that Google has tons of mobile patents-- some of the earliest and most basic in the business-- destroying Android via litigation just went from foregone conclusion to longshot.
Was it worth 12.5 billion to save a whole ecosystem? Now that's a reasonable debate. With so many enemies teaming up against Google to beat them by any means necessary, I say yes. Google needed weapons in the patent war. Badly. Now they've got them.
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âoeIn the past year or so, the engagement has been combative, with abrupt, disruptive policy changes that are being held without consultation, and, unusually, with absolutely no room for negotiation...â
I wonder where they learned that?
I seriously do not get this at all. It's s no longer the 1800s, we can put up a clock that everyone can see that stops and starts when the ref hits the button. I mean, come on.
Rents are the future of innovation.
Taste the Freedum!
Or don't breath in before the sneeze.
No air, no sneeze.
I still hate Christian Lattn-- wait a second.
Saying we "care more about criminals than we do for victims" because someone thinks you should NOT be allowed to shoot someone who MAY be a Peeping Tom is just silly.
Is this an ironic post?
It's now been 6 years since I've had to pay for credit reports because of all the breaches my data has been involved in.
Thanks for the info.
Regarding your last comment, I wasn't talking about why the article or folks here didn't mention flywheels. Just wondering if someone had some perspective on why flywheels are never mentioned for solving the intermittent generation problems of wind and solar.
I never see flywheels discussed in this context. I don't understand why not, though.
No need for exotic compounds, sky-high efficiency. They don't have to be replaced every three years.
There must be a reason people keep dismissing them out of hand...does here anyone know what the reason is?
Gravity is not just an explanation-- it's the LAW.
It's not a bad apology I guess, but it still seems to ignore the main reason for all the trouble-- the firing of Victoria. I'm not sure whose anger she thinks she's answering.
Private schools do an excellent job of dumping high cost students (ADHD, special needs, etc) on the public schools, and then babbling about how they're more cost-efficient.
Show me ONE private school that matches the public school's mandate to accept all "last resort" students, and then we'll compare efficiency. Good luck finding one.
Until then, it's just comparing apples to lying assholes.
Agreed.
The reason documentation sucks in Linux is because programmers are writing it. It's not because of the myth that programmers can't write, it's because writing is not really their passion-- creating the programs is. I mean, give me a choice between fixing/improving my code and documenting it, and the choice is pretty damn obvious.
One thing I learned in my tech writing days-- programming ALWAYS outpaces code. ALWAYS. A business can keep that in check (or not, which is frequently and increasingly the case), but in FOSS the programmers are just going to run away with their passions (and rightfully so) while the documentation lags. Someone might try to write some documentation for software they love after the fact, but the FOSS release cycle is such that the documentation will be outdated before it's completed. Very unsatisfying.
Bad documentation is the price we pay for FOSS. Generally, I think FOSS is worth it.
If I had money lying around, I'd try to setup a clearinghouse for web boards dedicated to answering questions as they come up, and create the best damn search interface I could. In short, a better system of what we kinda of have now.
Pre-tax deductions have not changed. I don't know what wacko changes have changed your taxes, but it ain't ACA.
There's not a lot in it for the consumer. Surprise!
For Samsung, however, moving away from Android likely gets them out of an expensive and pointless proxy war with Apple. That's a big deal for Samsung.
Apple's Android vendetta has been about Holy Vengeance Upon Google from the beginning, not really about Samsung. If Samsung could gain a platform that they won't be sued over for including basic functions, Samsung could get back to the business of making smartphones, rather than being a professional defendant.
Making smartphones is actually something Samsung does phenomenally well. Also, Tizen is targeted at other gadgets (read: tablets and smart TVs), other areas of Samsung strength.
The downside for Samsung is that Tizen does not yet have an app-building community like iOS or Android, and it would take years to build one. This looks like Samsung testing waters to me.
Also, the "stone's throw" is like about an hour at highway speeds. Some throw. ;-)
Although the source code is open, part of the value proposition is to access the Android store. Google, by tying together search and access to the android store, is doing "bundling". Since they are probably a monopoly, this bundling of services may be illegal as is reduces competition (in search and in store services).
There's nothing that forces the device to use Android Market. Cell companies can and do provide alternatives, sometimes making them the dominant app store or eliminating the Android Market entirely.
And the answer is "Where it says it's about measured browser usage data in the first line of the summary".
Or if you actually read the article (yeah. right - you couldn't even read the first line of the summary), click on any of the links in the table and select by browser.
(Sigh).
Does it really have to be this way?
Despite your mean-spirited assertion, clicking the link DOES NOT provide any information about whether this is market share by: total browser views, unique browser, etc. It just asserts the nebulous term "market share" without any real explanation of what that meant or how it's calculated. When you click on the table link as you suggest, it just shows a breakdown by month. Click on the browser type, and it just shows the first table again, except only for whatever browser you chose. It doesn't answer my question at all.
Kind of like you.
Obviously, the Slashdot summary doesn't seem backed up by the document linked. You'd think you'd have noticed this since you read so diligently, but maybe flaming is more important to you.
The only thing dumber than a stupid RTFA flame is a RTFA flame where the flamer didn't really read the article or bother to understand the post. Grow up.
If they're talking about traffic VOLUME, how can you possibly compare internet access by Android when all those iPads are being lumped in here with the mobile phones?
Why wouldn't Archos, Acer Iconia, ASUS Eee Pad, Motorola Xoom, B&N Nook Color, Amazon Kindle Fire, and other tablets running Android be lumped in with Android traffic volume?
They would be. Do you think the numbers of Android tabs versus iOS tabs are so close as to be a wash?
This is not about installations, this is about web site views.
Where does it say this is about web site views?
Six months now.
With these statistics, it's just damn clear that the average Android user isn't using their phones for anything but "dumb phone with nice screen+keyboard" activities.
I'm not sure how you get that conclusion based on this. This metric appears to be saying nothing about how much devices are being used to do specific stuff, but we just don't know.
The metric here is, "Mobile/Tablet Top Operating System Share Trend", which is a pretty nebulous title. Share of what? Market share? How was it determined -- sales? Web access traffic at specific websites? IP traffic through certain ISPs? Which ones?
If they're talking about traffic VOLUME, how can you possibly compare internet access by Android when all those iPads are being lumped in here with the mobile phones? Surely iPad internet use-- streaming, for example, absolutely crushes internet use on smartphones.
I find it disappointing that NetMarketShare doesn't explain what it is they are measuring. If we knew what they were REALLY measuring, these numbers would provide some insight. But without knowing what these numbers are actually based on, it's just an excuse for everybody to just repeat what they always say anyway about iOS / Android / whatever.
This is flamebait but the parent isn't? Give me a break.
The above post made a legitimate point-- Apple is ALONE among the handset manufacturers in putting this crapware on their phone. We know this for many reasons, not least because Apple explicitly says they don't allow carriers to mitigate the Apple experience. It's possible some of the other manufacturers have done this, but since the carriers have the ability to do this themselves on the other platforms, it makes a lot of sense that they put this on when they put all their other junk on.
On the flip side, CIQ appears less nefarious on iOS and is certainly easier to disable. I can't believe I've got to root and mod my Samsung Vibrant to get this crapware off it.
I don't get why you're complaining. It's clear that the users were holding their iTunes accounts wrong.
>Apple and Microsoft pundits worry about this deal more than Google analytics. I'm not
>saying that Google did it with ease in heart, but more or less they outplayed Billy and Jobs.
Billy is semi-retired. Google outplayed The Steves.
> For a tiny fraction of what they spent to buy MM they could have designed a new
> mobile OS from the ground up and gotten some great press.
And what would have stopped AppleSoft from suing this NEW phone OS into oblivion using the same BS patents? Anyone? Buehler?
You can't engineer around patents that cover obvious functions. Apple has made it, uhm, patently clear they were going to destroy Android with BS patent litigation. Now that Google has tons of mobile patents-- some of the earliest and most basic in the business-- destroying Android via litigation just went from foregone conclusion to longshot.
Was it worth 12.5 billion to save a whole ecosystem? Now that's a reasonable debate. With so many enemies teaming up against Google to beat them by any means necessary, I say yes. Google needed weapons in the patent war. Badly. Now they've got them.