If PETA wants a case, they can look into getting RHAT shares for the birds--you know, commercial use of an image and all that...
Actually, even though I'm not an animal rights freak, I gotta say...the penguins there sounded like a bad idea. Linus met the mascot for the first time in an open-air zoo, where they were free to run.
Oh, and I kind of LIKE the idea of being able to interact with Linus and feed him peanuts and beer. Perhaps he would like it also. But that's just me.
Well, I've gotten in to every single stupid phracking window timeperiod phone call whatever...jumped thru every burning hoop held over every vat of radioactive medical waste...spent hours on the phone...
And STILL nobody knows my status or if I'm getting any damn shares! Looks like I got entered into the system twice on two different superspecial lists or something....
I give them until their stupid deadline tomorrow. If I don't get my shares after all of this, all I can say is...they lost a customer AND gained an active enemy. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....
Just got off the phone with E*Trade. The people seemed genuinely apologetic...but yes, folks, we must ONCE AGAIN camp out on the site and RE-SUBMIT our info if we wish to get in on the RH IPO. AND...we may be TURNED DOWN even if we were approved the FIRST time, if the amazing Powers that Be determine that the extra $2/share will break our little banks.
Oh, and it MAY NOT EVEN BE TODAY.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....the little man will NEVER win.
I have a DAY JOB, folks...I can't park all day! What the hell IS this? (very frustrated now)
Oh, btw...I have excellent mood music in the 'puter CD player right now...for this situation, I recommend "Halber Mensch" by Einsturzende Neubauten. Annoying, jarring, LOUD, and edgy...makes me grateful that my German is bad enough where I DON'T understand the lyrics...
Hey all. Just got done reading the order, after putting on my big silly Lawyer's Hat (and taking the Red one off for a minute). Here's my 2c...
1) Folks, this isn't really all that revolutionary. Yes, it shows rampant stupidity and a desparate need on Clinton's part to kowtow towards the right. However, none of the listed governmental bodies are being given one iota more power than they already really have. The fact that no mention is made that LIMITS THE POWER OF THE CM'TE to US LAWS shows that this thing is probably being done as a sort of political pre-emptive strike--a real hack job. This Order's true target will no doubt rear its disgusting head in the next few weeks or so.
2) This can also be seen as a potential strike against crypto, especially strong crypto--look at all those allusions to "just how well can law enforcement deal with this stuff...." Great straw man.
3) The fact that the Budget Cmte. gets to review any recommendations BEFORE they are officially presented to the Prez and Veep also shows that they just want an excuse to write more bad laws, not make real policies. It's a lot easier to tell everyone that they can't do x y or z (like use crypto, have open access at libraries, etc) then to bother to train, recruit, and outfit top-notch people to help get after the real crooks.
4) He's pulled in just about every freaking major association and commission in the GubMint. Can you say False Consensus Building?
In short, the whole thing is just a made-to-order straw man for law enforcement and the Porn Police, IMHO.
If anything, this should not be something that's limited to Federal committees. Write your Congressmen and Senators and DEMAND that the users of new technologies get a voice in the proceedings.
Foreign Slashdotters: Protest, protest, protest and make sure that YOUR governments remind the US that they ain't the only game in town. Use crypto. Help foster use of encryption standards that work between the US and the rest of the planet.
Hope this sheds some light w/o generating too much heat.
Well, I'm also a female member of the Linux species {---note EXCEPTION to I before E rule BTW and...well, my boyfriend was and is a turbo-geek. How did we meet? In a dive bar! And believe me, after some signs of interest from me, he straightened up and flew straight on the hygenie issue. Gotta say this to Mr. Hopes-Chicks-are-There and his brethren:
Bathe. Clean Clothes. Brush Teeth. but the biggest hint of all:
Don't be afraid to say HI!!
Seriously...I had casually met my man once or twice thru a mutual friend and all we did was grunt generic greetings. One nite Mutual Pal failed to show, and we drank in silence. Finally we both got hungry and retired to the same diner. We've been together since Xmas and are still mutually astonished that we found each other!
So everybody bring cards, soap, and protection, and have a BLAST! Too bad I'm stuck @ work (sob!!) But at least I found out that I'm in for 200 shares of RedHat (which is probably gonna be better than free beer or sex anyway)
Dude...you should have asked to talk to a rep, and fill it out over the phone. That's what I did. I still have to wait until tomorrow to see if I got in or not, but at least I got past the first gate...
However, let me say this: If I DON'T get in, fuck em. I'm taking my money and leaving. If I get approved and don't get any stock, STILL f-em.
This was the most stressfull, energy-wasting financial exploit I've ever engaged in.
What really has to happen is a fundamental change in the way IPO's are handled by ALL brokerages. I think Business 2.0 had an alternate model for this some months ago....
Don't forget...even if they don't charge a "fee" to close an account, they make it up with the interest they get while keeping your money away from you.
All I know is that I feel pretty screwed by the whole thing.
That's why I didnt' cash in the money I've been carefully stowing away for the IPO.
I used to work at a brokerage. Let me tell you...there are almost ALWAYS fees associated with closing out an account. The minute I saw all the shit that E*Trade was throwing at me just for the high honor of taking my money, I knew something was wrong.
Also: WHY would one need experience trading in the case of volatile stocks **in one's field of expertise?** ((---note caveat
Seriously. Most of the old brokers I used to work with didn't know their butts from their elbows when it came to ANYTHING with an "on" switch. Yet they were being trusted with huge personal accounts to work IPO stocks and tech stocks all the time. If RH saw fit to invite "the community" to the IPO, then the community should be assumed to know enough about what they are buying.
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If PETA wants a case, they can look into getting RHAT shares for the birds--you know, commercial use of an image and all that...
Actually, even though I'm not an animal rights freak, I gotta say...the penguins there sounded like a bad idea. Linus met the mascot for the first time in an open-air zoo, where they were free to run.
Oh, and I kind of LIKE the idea of being able to interact with Linus and feed him peanuts and beer. Perhaps he would like it also. But that's just me.
Well, I've gotten in to every single stupid phracking window timeperiod phone call whatever...jumped thru every burning hoop held over every vat of radioactive medical waste...spent hours on the phone...
And STILL nobody knows my status or if I'm getting any damn shares! Looks like I got entered into the system twice on two different superspecial lists or something....
I give them until their stupid deadline tomorrow. If I don't get my shares after all of this, all I can say is...they lost a customer AND gained an active enemy. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....
Well, guess what...JUST got off the phone with E-Shit and they said that they are STILL giving out affinity shares!
Hang in there!
Just got off the phone with E*Trade. The people seemed genuinely apologetic...but yes, folks, we must ONCE AGAIN camp out on the site and RE-SUBMIT our info if we wish to get in on the RH IPO. AND...we may be TURNED DOWN even if we were approved the FIRST time, if the amazing Powers that Be determine that the extra $2/share will break our little banks.
Oh, and it MAY NOT EVEN BE TODAY.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....the little man will NEVER win.
I have a DAY JOB, folks...I can't park all day! What the hell IS this? (very frustrated now)
Oh, btw...I have excellent mood music in the 'puter CD player right now...for this situation, I recommend "Halber Mensch" by Einsturzende Neubauten. Annoying, jarring, LOUD, and edgy...makes me grateful that my German is bad enough where I DON'T understand the lyrics...
Yeah, that pisses me off BIGTIME.
It seems like no matter WHAT a woman accomplishes, it will NOT get written up in the US media if her hubby is famous also.
(NOTE: Shameless drooling fandom follows):
Gotta say it's fabu to see yet another flattering press piece on Da Man. Wish they would say more about his wife n kids though.
Also, I mean, really...he looks 10 lbs. heavier every time I see him in print!
Otherwise though it is a wonderful, wonderful interview. Shows the man's intellect and soul and all that.
Hey all. Just got done reading the order, after putting on my big silly Lawyer's Hat (and taking the Red one off for a minute). Here's my 2c...
1) Folks, this isn't really all that revolutionary. Yes, it shows rampant stupidity and a desparate need on Clinton's part to kowtow towards the right. However, none of the listed governmental bodies are being given one iota more power than they already really have. The fact that no mention is made that LIMITS THE POWER OF THE CM'TE to US LAWS shows that this thing is probably being done as a sort of political pre-emptive strike--a real hack job. This Order's true target will no doubt rear its disgusting head in the next few weeks or so.
2) This can also be seen as a potential strike against crypto, especially strong crypto--look at all those allusions to "just how well can law enforcement deal with this stuff...." Great straw man.
3) The fact that the Budget Cmte. gets to review any recommendations BEFORE they are officially presented to the Prez and Veep also shows that they just want an excuse to write more bad laws, not make real policies. It's a lot easier to tell everyone that they can't do x y or z (like use crypto, have open access at libraries, etc) then to bother to train, recruit, and outfit top-notch people to help get after the real crooks.
4) He's pulled in just about every freaking major association and commission in the GubMint. Can you say False Consensus Building?
In short, the whole thing is just a made-to-order straw man for law enforcement and the Porn Police, IMHO.
If anything, this should not be something that's limited to Federal committees. Write your Congressmen and Senators and DEMAND that the users of new technologies get a voice in the proceedings.
Foreign Slashdotters: Protest, protest, protest and make sure that YOUR governments remind the US that they ain't the only game in town. Use crypto. Help foster use of encryption standards that work between the US and the rest of the planet.
Hope this sheds some light w/o generating too much heat.
Well, I'm also a female member of the Linux species {---note EXCEPTION to I before E rule BTW and...well, my boyfriend was and is a turbo-geek. How did we meet? In a dive bar! And believe me, after some signs of interest from me, he straightened up and flew straight on the hygenie issue. Gotta say this to Mr. Hopes-Chicks-are-There and his brethren:
Bathe.
Clean Clothes.
Brush Teeth.
but the biggest hint of all:
Don't be afraid to say HI!!
Seriously...I had casually met my man once or twice thru a mutual friend and all we did was grunt generic greetings. One nite Mutual Pal failed to show, and we drank in silence. Finally we both got hungry and retired to the same diner. We've been together since Xmas and are still mutually astonished that we found each other!
So everybody bring cards, soap, and protection, and have a BLAST! Too bad I'm stuck @ work (sob!!) But at least I found out that I'm in for 200 shares of RedHat (which is probably gonna be better than free beer or sex anyway)
Dude...you should have asked to talk to a rep, and fill it out over the phone. That's what I did. I still have to wait until tomorrow to see if I got in or not, but at least I got past the first gate...
However, let me say this: If I DON'T get in, fuck em. I'm taking my money and leaving. If I get approved and don't get any stock, STILL f-em.
This was the most stressfull, energy-wasting financial exploit I've ever engaged in.
What really has to happen is a fundamental change in the way IPO's are handled by ALL brokerages. I think Business 2.0 had an alternate model for this some months ago....
Good luck to all still waiting...
To the tune of "Hooray for Captain Spaulding" from "Animal Crackers":
Hooray for Captain Stallman,
the Free Software Implorer!
Brought GNU out to the fore!
Hooray, Hooray, Hooray!
Add more stanzas as you like!
Don't forget...even if they don't charge a "fee" to close an account, they make it up with the interest they get while keeping your money away from you.
All I know is that I feel pretty screwed by the whole thing.
That's why I didnt' cash in the money I've been carefully stowing away for the IPO.
I used to work at a brokerage. Let me tell you...there are almost ALWAYS fees associated with closing out an account. The minute I saw all the shit that E*Trade was throwing at me just for the high honor of taking my money, I knew something was wrong.
Also: WHY would one need experience trading in the case of volatile stocks **in one's field of expertise?** ((---note caveat
Seriously. Most of the old brokers I used to work with didn't know their butts from their elbows when it came to ANYTHING with an "on" switch. Yet they were being trusted with huge personal accounts to work IPO stocks and tech stocks all the time. If RH saw fit to invite "the community" to the IPO, then the community should be assumed to know enough about what they are buying.