Anyone care to explain to me why the Athlon FX, a procesor lacking that last pin which provides MP support has the 2nd and 3rd buss used only for communication between processors?!?!?!
I blew that one off when I saw NVIDIA...
You can't expect someone who fouls up a company's trademark and name to actually DO RESEARCH, can you?!?!?!
nVidia, damnit, not INVIDIA! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!
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yeah yeah yeah, okay, one person claims to have been ripped off by, and recieved poor customer support from C1 Host... According to my credit union (it is a VERY large credit union, serving the better part or 7/8 of Michigan), AOL is rated one of the WORST ISPs (err, ICPs, they're a CONTENT provider) in THE WORLD as far as service, BILLING ISSUES, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE, and they CHARGED ME $50 for my FREE TRIAL PERIOD because the ASSHOLE didn't cancel it when I called to cancel it. I declined the transaction on my credit card (visa debit from my checking account, actually), called, complained, canceled the account AGAIN, and 2 months later, they hit me for $100 that VISA won't allow me to dispute because it is a RE-POST. I call them back and the guy switched it to AOL-by-phone, he did NOT cancel it! Now, I don't keep alot of money in my checking, only what I need to cover chacks and charges I make to that account. A $100 overdraft as such caused my account to be closed.
Think I could sue AOL as well?
Probably!
As for C1, let them be. As long as you got your issue with the billing taken care of, let it alone. I owe my credit union $100 still that I won't pay until I get blood from AOL (they should pay it) and that is safe for me because my credit union WILL NOT NOTIFY CREDIT BUREAUS OF ANY ADVERS ACTION TAKEN DUE TO ANY AOL-RELATED TRANSACTION! Why? BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THIER RECORDS, ROUGHLY 50% OF THIER MEMBERS HAVE HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH AOL!
Simply adding to my post.
If you're truly concerned about a company using spyware in a software product you use, simply draft a license file for all information on and about your PC, network, and all related hardware, and e-mail it to them upor the installation of the software in question, stating the reasons for the license and the fact that they WILL be bound to it. Let them know that if they don't agree to be bound by the terms of the license, they may either give you a full refund for the software in question and you will return it to them, or give them the option to provide you with a patch, if such information gathering techniques are used by the software, that will disable this "feature".
If they don't explicitly agree to the terms and/or don't provide either the refund or the patch, you may have a suit against them. In any case, given the fact that they recieved such a license from you, if they DO recieve any information about your PC without your prior consent, you DO have a suit against them.
Software companies make more money yearly from piracy suits that from software sales (don't quote me on that, as I'm loosely quoting another post on this topic and am not sure how reliable the poster was), why not get in on a potential piracy suit of your own; the piracy of the information on and about your PC!?
So the (alleged) spyware sends copies of certain information about your computer back to the company that produced the software.
The user still has all the information they started with. No one has been deprived of any information. All that has happened is that an additional copy of this information has been created and distributed.
Ok, and when I download a pirated copy of MS Office XP (yes, I'm a windoze uzer, and no, i don't have any pirated software, so back off!) I did the same thing. Microsoft
still has all the information they started with. No one has been deprived of any information. All that has happened is that an additional copy of this information has been created and distributed
to me!
If your example proves true, so would mine.
I mean, for christ sake, they have the opprotunity to license the software/information to users and would-be pirates - what if a user has prepared a license file stating that any and all information on or about his computer could not be viewed by any third party without prior consent (that not being given by the user agreeing to the software company's license) and they "spy" the information anyway because they never saw the license? Well? The license is still there! I know damned well that nobody reads every word (if any) of most software licenses, therefore they likely never see them, beyond the first paragraph or so - or in the case of software that includes a license.txt file IN THE INSTALLATION ARCHIVE and gives no way to view it until AFTER INSTALLATION! Surely, my presenting such a license for the information on and about my PC would stand up in court if I were to sue some company for "spying" such data, just as such license would protect thier software.
Not sure where this will cut me off, so I'll add more in a reply.
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Yes, and the antibodies (patches) generated for current-generation OSes will be passed down to their children.
if people learned from virus attacks, there would be on virus in the wild and the rest would never have infected more than a dozen systems...
OH COME ON!
Anyone care to explain to me why the Athlon FX, a procesor lacking that last pin which provides MP support has the 2nd and 3rd buss used only for communication between processors?!?!?!
Seems a bit of a waste to me.
I blew that one off when I saw NVIDIA... You can't expect someone who fouls up a company's trademark and name to actually DO RESEARCH, can you?!?!?! nVidia, damnit, not INVIDIA! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! main(moderator->rate(thispost, -1));
yeah yeah yeah, okay, one person claims to have been ripped off by, and recieved poor customer support from C1 Host... According to my credit union (it is a VERY large credit union, serving the better part or 7/8 of Michigan), AOL is rated one of the WORST ISPs (err, ICPs, they're a CONTENT provider) in THE WORLD as far as service, BILLING ISSUES, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE, and they CHARGED ME $50 for my FREE TRIAL PERIOD because the ASSHOLE didn't cancel it when I called to cancel it. I declined the transaction on my credit card (visa debit from my checking account, actually), called, complained, canceled the account AGAIN, and 2 months later, they hit me for $100 that VISA won't allow me to dispute because it is a RE-POST. I call them back and the guy switched it to AOL-by-phone, he did NOT cancel it! Now, I don't keep alot of money in my checking, only what I need to cover chacks and charges I make to that account. A $100 overdraft as such caused my account to be closed. Think I could sue AOL as well? Probably! As for C1, let them be. As long as you got your issue with the billing taken care of, let it alone. I owe my credit union $100 still that I won't pay until I get blood from AOL (they should pay it) and that is safe for me because my credit union WILL NOT NOTIFY CREDIT BUREAUS OF ANY ADVERS ACTION TAKEN DUE TO ANY AOL-RELATED TRANSACTION! Why? BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THIER RECORDS, ROUGHLY 50% OF THIER MEMBERS HAVE HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH AOL!
and I was afraid I'd get labeled a troll with my first post. great to see some like-minded individuals out there...
12 years? 19"?? I have a 21 inch RCA that just so happens to be 3 years older than me! (it's 24!)
see my post a little ways up the board, my friend.
Simply adding to my post. If you're truly concerned about a company using spyware in a software product you use, simply draft a license file for all information on and about your PC, network, and all related hardware, and e-mail it to them upor the installation of the software in question, stating the reasons for the license and the fact that they WILL be bound to it. Let them know that if they don't agree to be bound by the terms of the license, they may either give you a full refund for the software in question and you will return it to them, or give them the option to provide you with a patch, if such information gathering techniques are used by the software, that will disable this "feature". If they don't explicitly agree to the terms and/or don't provide either the refund or the patch, you may have a suit against them. In any case, given the fact that they recieved such a license from you, if they DO recieve any information about your PC without your prior consent, you DO have a suit against them. Software companies make more money yearly from piracy suits that from software sales (don't quote me on that, as I'm loosely quoting another post on this topic and am not sure how reliable the poster was), why not get in on a potential piracy suit of your own; the piracy of the information on and about your PC!?
Ok, and when I download a pirated copy of MS Office XP (yes, I'm a windoze uzer, and no, i don't have any pirated software, so back off!) I did the same thing. Microsoft to me!
If your example proves true, so would mine.
I mean, for christ sake, they have the opprotunity to license the software/information to users and would-be pirates - what if a user has prepared a license file stating that any and all information on or about his computer could not be viewed by any third party without prior consent (that not being given by the user agreeing to the software company's license) and they "spy" the information anyway because they never saw the license? Well? The license is still there! I know damned well that nobody reads every word (if any) of most software licenses, therefore they likely never see them, beyond the first paragraph or so - or in the case of software that includes a license.txt file IN THE INSTALLATION ARCHIVE and gives no way to view it until AFTER INSTALLATION! Surely, my presenting such a license for the information on and about my PC would stand up in court if I were to sue some company for "spying" such data, just as such license would protect thier software.
Not sure where this will cut me off, so I'll add more in a reply.