It was a girl writing about a shitty time she had at a convention and a lot of boys that never grew up getting offended by her daring to write that. So nothing of note but a lot was spilled over a small corner of the net and swilled over onto this site - stuff about "Mens Rights Activism" and how the right to insult teenage girls is written into the constitution or something.
My point is obviously that they have gone too far once. For some purposes that's considered enough, and anything on top of that is just adding insult to injury.
I seem to remember a lot of "false" claims about Bill Crosby and Phil Spector that no longer sound so false. There were "false" claims against Jimmy Saville to well over a dozen police stations over the years. How about you quote a relevant portion of one of those things you've name dropped to show that it really says what you are suggesting it does. Don't try the cowardly weasel trick of suggesting that all cases dropped due to lack of evidence or similar reasons are false claims - a false claim is a claim that has been proved to be false.
Read his stuff and you will understand why I have written that. Also that IS the point being addressed - the "Linus is being targeted" thing comes ENTIRELY from Eric S. Raymond. There is no second source.
He's still earned more credibility
Read his stuff - he's lost all credibility on some issues hence my "Ah - Eric S. Raymond - enough said" comment.
but it seems only one side is apparently infallible
I never said that, and besides there is only one side here with Eric S. Raymond's claims that day. Nothing else to see so no other side to call a liar or not. Read his other stuff and make up your own mind - either fall for it or hone that bullshit detector.
Said group has disbanded but they spread out to other "Women in Tech" groups to try the same type of things.
Only nobody every tried those things and the only source that said it was going to happen is a bit of a biased ranting fruitcake called Eric Raymond - the "fisking" guy, who said he heard about it in an online chat somewhere.
Thus nothing at all to do with Linus who never had to fear for anything like that.
Read a few things he's written over the years to remove all doubt, especially the "Fisking" idiocy, but that "targetted" thing is even more ridiculous. Somebody he won't name says an org that no longer exists was going to play James Bond honeypot games? Seriously? You've been misled by the Lindbergh effect - somebody with fame in one area can push some ideas that are not exactly sane in other areas.
I am particularly skeptical when a "harassment policy" is put in place too
Sadly once an org gets big enough you have to deal with the fact that some people will steal, some people will bully and others will grope. The policies to deal with all are mostly just common sense and referral to law enforcement unless you have HR people that like to micromanage or empire build.
consistent with reports of SJW dezinformatsiya tactics from elsewhere
Note Eric's fucking huge chip on his shoulder from his wording. Expect bias.
If true, these claims will rock the world of software development
Notice how they didn't rock anything? Life went on and it's a year later. Maybe Eric's blog rant was just another of Eric's blog rants.
If you are going to bring it up again I suggest you mention Eric's name instead of defaming Linus. I thought you were bringing up something new that actually involved Linus instead of Eric's deranged rant of "deliberately planned and persistent campaign to frame Linus" which for some reason Linus was not able to notice.
Ah - Eric S. Raymond - enough said. While he's done a few things of note in one area he's a bit of a goose in others. See also his introduction of the word "Fisking" into the jargon file as an example of how utter full of shit he is at times when he has a political agenda to push - in that case opposition to anyone even mildly critical of Israel, in this case he's definitely been very upset with feminist politics on occasion instead of just ignoring something that's never going to impact on his life in any way at all.
Raymond quoted excerpts from an online chat with a trusted source, who told him that the Ada Inititiative, a recently-discontinued feminist advocacy group in tech, was trying to “collect scalps” by concocting charges of attempted sexual assault against male software developers.
In other words utter fucking bullshit passed on at least twice from who knows where before posted on 4chan or whatever.
Cells are full of people just like Applebaum is supposed to be. It's happened a lot before. Maybe it's just happening again. As for Assange vs Spooks, that was happening in little ways long before he went to Sweden so the chances of that strange case being mixed up with that are very high.
It's all moot because false sexual misconduct claims are about as rare as bigfoot. The prospect of a claimant having to face a hostile courtroom where she's assumed to be a hooker pulling a scam before she even turns up tends to put people off.
It's worse than that conspiracy theory. Instead of it being an arm of government ultimately responsible to the citizens if it goes too far it's a group only accountable to MS management (the shareholders don't get any say).
Do you really think that? He scored a LOT of political points from that little show. Did you forget that he was an actor with many years experience and knew exactly what he was doing in front of a live microphone?
It's called "dog whistle" politics by some. Put out a message to extremists and when questioned by others not as extreme insist you didn't really mean it, but insist in such a way that it can look like a lie. Some "smooth political operators" even manage to put conflicting messages out and convince different extremists that the other message doesn't matter.
Trump is just another "carpetbagger" right out of 19th century politics, only without a bunch of cronies going around beating people up.
I would call it Rupert Murdoch picking a side and expecting to collect later when his bet pays off. That's how he did it in the UK and some other places.
It looks like a spectacularly massive ego trip that will mostly be paid for by people other than Trump. Not a joke, it just looks that way to those of us who are not narcissists.
It's not ridiculous for Ukraine to worry about Russia, but it is a bit for the USA to worry about Russia any more than the background concern and attention that has been paid since the fall of the Berlin wall. It's at the "keep the dog from next door from digging under the fence" level of worry, not a "they are arming our enemies" level of worry.
Romney was trying out a cold war scare campaign - very bad move. That's a lot more than just worrying about Russia.
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So where are those relevant quotes then?
It was a girl writing about a shitty time she had at a convention and a lot of boys that never grew up getting offended by her daring to write that. So nothing of note but a lot was spilled over a small corner of the net and swilled over onto this site - stuff about "Mens Rights Activism" and how the right to insult teenage girls is written into the constitution or something.
Is proof about that one parking ticket.
My point is obviously that they have gone too far once. For some purposes that's considered enough, and anything on top of that is just adding insult to injury.
I seem to remember a lot of "false" claims about Bill Crosby and Phil Spector that no longer sound so false. There were "false" claims against Jimmy Saville to well over a dozen police stations over the years.
How about you quote a relevant portion of one of those things you've name dropped to show that it really says what you are suggesting it does. Don't try the cowardly weasel trick of suggesting that all cases dropped due to lack of evidence or similar reasons are false claims - a false claim is a claim that has been proved to be false.
One in five? Seriously? How dumb do you think we are?
Also that IS the point being addressed - the "Linus is being targeted" thing comes ENTIRELY from Eric S. Raymond. There is no second source.
Read his stuff - he's lost all credibility on some issues hence my "Ah - Eric S. Raymond - enough said" comment.
I never said that, and besides there is only one side here with Eric S. Raymond's claims that day.
Nothing else to see so no other side to call a liar or not.
Read his other stuff and make up your own mind - either fall for it or hone that bullshit detector.
Only nobody every tried those things and the only source that said it was going to happen is a bit of a biased ranting fruitcake called Eric Raymond - the "fisking" guy, who said he heard about it in an online chat somewhere.
Thus nothing at all to do with Linus who never had to fear for anything like that.
Read a few things he's written over the years to remove all doubt, especially the "Fisking" idiocy, but that "targetted" thing is even more ridiculous. Somebody he won't name says an org that no longer exists was going to play James Bond honeypot games? Seriously?
You've been misled by the Lindbergh effect - somebody with fame in one area can push some ideas that are not exactly sane in other areas.
Sadly once an org gets big enough you have to deal with the fact that some people will steal, some people will bully and others will grope. The policies to deal with all are mostly just common sense and referral to law enforcement unless you have HR people that like to micromanage or empire build.
Note Eric's fucking huge chip on his shoulder from his wording. Expect bias.
Notice how they didn't rock anything? Life went on and it's a year later. Maybe Eric's blog rant was just another of Eric's blog rants.
If you are going to bring it up again I suggest you mention Eric's name instead of defaming Linus. I thought you were bringing up something new that actually involved Linus instead of Eric's deranged rant of "deliberately planned and persistent campaign to frame Linus" which for some reason Linus was not able to notice.
While he's done a few things of note in one area he's a bit of a goose in others.
See also his introduction of the word "Fisking" into the jargon file as an example of how utter full of shit he is at times when he has a political agenda to push - in that case opposition to anyone even mildly critical of Israel, in this case he's definitely been very upset with feminist politics on occasion instead of just ignoring something that's never going to impact on his life in any way at all.
In other words utter fucking bullshit passed on at least twice from who knows where before posted on 4chan or whatever.
Only in high school and really shitty hobby coding instead of anything in science or industry.
Cells are full of people just like Applebaum is supposed to be. It's happened a lot before. Maybe it's just happening again.
As for Assange vs Spooks, that was happening in little ways long before he went to Sweden so the chances of that strange case being mixed up with that are very high.
Where the hell did that come from?
It's all moot because false sexual misconduct claims are about as rare as bigfoot. The prospect of a claimant having to face a hostile courtroom where she's assumed to be a hooker pulling a scam before she even turns up tends to put people off.
It's worse than that conspiracy theory. Instead of it being an arm of government ultimately responsible to the citizens if it goes too far it's a group only accountable to MS management (the shareholders don't get any say).
Isn't that enough of a pain?
Proof is proof FFS anyway.
It's just another, although somewhat trivial, example of how he can not be trusted.
He's the guy that demanded that Obama should show his penis to everyone so this new thing isn't enough to put off Trump supporters.
Do you really think that? He scored a LOT of political points from that little show.
Did you forget that he was an actor with many years experience and knew exactly what he was doing in front of a live microphone?
It's called "dog whistle" politics by some. Put out a message to extremists and when questioned by others not as extreme insist you didn't really mean it, but insist in such a way that it can look like a lie. Some "smooth political operators" even manage to put conflicting messages out and convince different extremists that the other message doesn't matter.
Trump is just another "carpetbagger" right out of 19th century politics, only without a bunch of cronies going around beating people up.
I would call it Rupert Murdoch picking a side and expecting to collect later when his bet pays off. That's how he did it in the UK and some other places.
It looks like a spectacularly massive ego trip that will mostly be paid for by people other than Trump. Not a joke, it just looks that way to those of us who are not narcissists.
It's not ridiculous for Ukraine to worry about Russia, but it is a bit for the USA to worry about Russia any more than the background concern and attention that has been paid since the fall of the Berlin wall. It's at the "keep the dog from next door from digging under the fence" level of worry, not a "they are arming our enemies" level of worry.
Romney was trying out a cold war scare campaign - very bad move. That's a lot more than just worrying about Russia.