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Tor Project Confirms Sexual Misconduct By Developer Jacob Appelbaum (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: The Tor Project, a nonprofit known for its online anonymity software, says it has verified claims that former employee Jacob Appelbaum engaged in "sexually aggressive behavior" with people inside and outside of its organization. "We have confirmed that the events did take place as reported," Shari Steele, Tor's executive director, tells The Verge. In a blog post today, Steele says that Tor began an investigation into Appelbaum's behavior after several people came forward with allegations of misconduct in late May. In a statement made in June, he said the allegations were "entirely false." He resigned from the Tor Project in May. "I want to thank all the people who broke the silence around Jacob's behavior," Steele writes. "It is because of you that this issue has now been addressed. I am grateful you spoke up, and I acknowledge and appreciate your courage." Steele says that Tor is now implementing a new anti-harassment policy, as well as a process for submitting complaints and having them reviewed. The changes will be put in place this week. Tor also announced last month that it would replace its entire board of directors.
This kind of accusation is usually BS to frame politically dangerous people. Case in point, Julian Assange.
A "confirmation" from an internal corporate investigation is worth about as much as my toilet.
Tor is backdoored. You can see that from the ease with which the Feds locate sites and users. Thus its one and only use: bringing free, anonymous, speech to people in repressive regimes, its ended.
When a company first sacks someone facing no charges, then hires a PI to confirm their reason for sacking, even though he's not claiming wrongful dismissal. That pretty much tells you that the organization is stuff full of bad actors. They go beyond any allegations and into a hatchet job.
And those bad actors delivered exactly what is expected. Good people gone, bad people in, product *demonstrably* no longer works for its primary purpose. When outside universities can point out 100 fake attack nodes, that Tor Project somehow didn't notice, that tells you they are more bad than good in there.
So a new thing has to be made, and that new thing has to be made from trustable people. And that is Jacob.
These "we slept together and he licked my muff and that's rape because I didn't agree before hand he could lick my muff, only share the bed"... these are Assange style attacks, they were disclosed in the Snowden leaks, and they just make him more, demonstrably honest:
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
"By publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger, the targeting of Anonymous with the very same DDoS attacks they accuse “hacktivists” of using, the use of “honey traps” (luring people into compromising situations using sex) and destructive viruses. "
Anonymous, secure, free speech trumps any of this shit, and a secure network delivered by a trusted person is necessary now. That's not Tor.
This kind of accusation is usually BS to frame politically dangerous people.
Um. No. Seriously and respectfully ask some of your female friends what kind of misconduct they've experienced in the workplace. You may be amazed.
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Ever since gamergate my concepts of fair reporting, harassment, he said she said have been seriously adjusted. There was totally horrible people, saying horrible things, but it seems only one side of the story is ever reported, making people more and more jaded and cynical of the media.
Stories such as Linus specifically having to avoid spending any time with females one on one as he's been "targeted for take down". Situations of outright false claims against people, proven clear and still people write incorrect articles about them, deliberately.
This story may well be correct, however in the very very least, I will no longer blindly leap into "condemn them, silence them!!" mode as is intended. I am particularly skeptical when a "harassment policy" is put in place too, as those have been going a general indicator of people "meddling in the name of righteousness " regardless if there was even a problem in the first place.
Be wise and if you read the article at least try to find multiple sources and preferably the other side of the story. At least GG taught me take stuff on the Internet with again of salt finally.
P.s off topic , I used to see posts whining about how awful Slashdot mobile is, I thought the people were exaggerating. They aren't, it's a warcrime.
that once a certain position in the hierarchy of a group is achieved, a polygynous mating pattern re-appears.
Could be useful to improve survival of a species. With humans - well, brain size and adequate usage of this capacity still lags severely behind.
Worse, they already purged anyone who might've disagreed. They also fail to address this point: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sop8ps
Oh, and they don't want an actual court to investigate. They did hire an investigator who... talked to people. No indication of whether they did things like gather corroborating evidence and it's not really clear how much of that a PI can do without any ability to issue subpoenas. And the whole investigation is private.
I don't know which story is true here, but I do know which side of this is operating in an open and transparent manner and which side is not.
Jacob Appelbaum engaged in "sexually aggressive behavior" with people inside and outside of its organization.
Inside the organization is inappropriate and essentially constitutes sexual harassment, a definite no no. But outside the organization he's just a dude trying to get laid. Did he commit sexual assault? If not last I checked it is not a crime to use bad, rather forward pick up lines such as wanna get laid?
It isn't a coincidence that these alleged thingamajics surface right at the crux of entire board being offed.
While rest of you are having a social hard-on for and against the whole abuse scenario as per to their plan,
do we yet have answers to the actually meaningful questions?
I mean, The entire board of directors are being replaced. that's not a small thing.
what else?
There is always a reason, though not always obvious. Tor is now shit, because the good people were chased away. Notice that there are no criminal charges anywhere, just allegations and accusations repeated over and over on any media outlet that would print it. Lead developer gone, whole new board being elected, one should be rather suspicious.
Now for the tin foil hat: A whole lot of money and effort goes into taking over a project like Tor, and as we saw with the Snowden NSA leaks it is a global exploitation at least after the fact. China, the US, the UK, and just about everyone else suddenly has no problem finding people on Tor networks. All of those same groups can claim ignorance when the cat jumps out of the bag.
Sometimes it's not easy to see who benefits and a clear goal. That is when you need to look around to see why you are being distracted.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Why would you trust it ever?
I don't see any single sentence in the Tor statement that says, as the Verge reported, that they confirmed Appelbaum's misconduct, only that they heard stories from his "victims" and decided to implement a new internal system for reporting misconduct. Am I blind?
And with a final shake of his fist, and maybe his willy, Jacob Applebaum goes off to join the NSA or Kim Jong-Un. Either way, he'll be in an underground bunker, plotting the downfall of civilization (or Tor at least).
Dude should be do some hard time. That'll get him sorted.
That is one lousy article. The name of the guy is the only thing revealed, and that is a journalistic no-no IMO: you don't give the full name unless charges have been proven. By a judge. About the nature of his "misconduct", the article is very vague: it's couched in different terms, but it's never made clear what happened, when, where, in what context and who were the victims. It also focuses on the sexual transgressions, and only gives a fleeting reference to people being "humiliated, intimidated, bullied", without explaining why. I understand there is some sort of political battle that largely includes both sides in parallel, and that is not even hinted at. In short, it's bad journalism.
I can see how all women rejecting you might cause you to believe they're all untrustworthy but it's actually YOUR own fault that you're unattractive. Sorry truth hurts, had to say it though. Can't wait to get downmodded by virgins.
David DeAngelo? is that you?
What is "sexual mistreatment"? I can't find any info in the article, or the link within that was purported to contain more information.
Given that this kind of accusation can permanently prevent someone from finding work in their field, I find these articles--lacking details, with no formal legal proceedings--troubling.
A cat can't teach a dog to bark.
i don't care about the article but i did come to bid farewell. i have lurked this site for years, typically finding very insightful and interesting discussions and points i'd otherwise not be exposed to. i stopped checking /. hourly, then daily, then weekly.. figure can't sleep might as well give her a whirl for old time's sake and am bombarded with advertisements on my handset. maybe i'm just a relic but i believe in respecting and empowering users. cheers and thanks for everything.
Who the fuck cares?!?
Obviously backdoored, and they are using a "sexual harrasment that would not stand up in court" as a cover for removing people that are resisting.
Did anybody wonder if there is something funny with Shari Steele? - her husband is working with the NSA. and probably works/worked for the NSA: https://bvass.wordpress.com/ta... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I had absolutely no idea that Shari Steele and the Tor Project Administration was a court of law!
Oh wait, they're not? Fascinating!
But boy howdy, you gotta admire their moxie. After all they did their own little investigation and found him guilty all by themselves. No pesky evidence or defense lawyers needed -- just enough harpies claiming victimization (but not enough to actually go to the police) and you too can destroy someone's life forever. ... ESPECIALLY interesting since one of the "victims" later pointed out that she wasn't a victim, it was a bunch of SJWs speaking on her behalf without permission to create a lynch mob towards Jacob...
(Although I have it on good authority she's suffering from internalized misogyny and thus you should believe the 3rd party witnesses over her statements, because Third Wave Feminists represent all women, even women who don't want to be represented by them. ESPECIALLY those kinds of women.)
Remember there was an active attempt to frame Linus Torvalds with sexual assault allegations. Around the same time you saw these types trying to push codes of conduct that were backdoors to get editorial control over projects they were targeting.
So everyone needs to be a tiny bit wary when hearing stories like this, especially when you see these SJW style shame lynch mob tactics used. No evidence, mobbing tactics, public shaming, threatening people who question the narrative, and demanding reparations for perceived slights in the form of policy changes and increased decision making power to their political allies. It's a playbook that targets some known exploits in our culture -- namely that everyone's hesitant to demand evidence of an overly emotional woman, and everyone's first response is to beat up whomever she's pointing at and ask questions later.
If there are actual allegations, they need to be taken to a court of law. If they won't hold up in a court of law, recognize it for what it is -- bitchy ex girlfriends wanting to slander an ex boyfriend they're mad at. Don't let the Kangaroo Court bullshit that's infested our campuses start leaking out into the real world.
And if you want to implement an "anti-harassment" policy for your project: Don't. It's a stupid fucking idea leading to drama and abuse by lesser minds.
If you are really looking for a nice Code of Conduct, aim for the Code of Merit - because as ESR has so adamantly pointed out, "We must constantly demand merit – performance, intelligence, dedication, and technical excellence – of ourselves and each other."
SJW Codes of Conduct like the Orwellian Contributor Covenant by Coraline Ada Ehmke (who is tied to Model View Culture, which is ran by white supremacist "feminist" Shanley Kane, which is also tied to the Ada Initiative's two founders, which was the group attempting to frame Linus for rape...) are nothing more than a way to backdoor losers like Ehmke and her ilk into projects they don't deserve access to.
While he's done a few things of note in one area he's a bit of a goose in others.
See also his introduction of the word "Fisking" into the jargon file as an example of how utter full of shit he is at times when he has a political agenda to push - in that case opposition to anyone even mildly critical of Israel, in this case he's definitely been very upset with feminist politics on occasion instead of just ignoring something that's never going to impact on his life in any way at all.
In other words utter fucking bullshit passed on at least twice from who knows where before posted on 4chan or whatever.
The fact that women can and do tear down entire, functional and productive organizations and destroy mens careers like this with some tears and stories is why they shouldn't be allowed to participate in the first place.
If he assaulted you, you should be down at the police station with wounds you received defending yourself. If you didn't defend yourself, then quit asking us to take your claims of assault seriously.
This shit has to stop. These bitches need to start being publicly identified and shunned, along with the organizations that coddle them.
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Note Eric's fucking huge chip on his shoulder from his wording. Expect bias.
Notice how they didn't rock anything? Life went on and it's a year later. Maybe Eric's blog rant was just another of Eric's blog rants.
If you are going to bring it up again I suggest you mention Eric's name instead of defaming Linus. I thought you were bringing up something new that actually involved Linus instead of Eric's deranged rant of "deliberately planned and persistent campaign to frame Linus" which for some reason Linus was not able to notice.
He tried to put his puny TORpedo back in a tube where it belongs to stop it from exploding. It did anyway. On his face!
if you are a girl, you should not go to sleep with a dude and say "no sexy times", the guy is not going to sleep, the guy is rolling to the side and hiding his boner, and not sleeping. And that is cruel, have him sleeping on the floor, on the dog house, knock him unconcious for the night, anything
also if somehow the guy manages to sleep, how the hell do you expect to not touch anything weird eventually, i sleep with a massive boner every single night, the chances i roll to the side and stab you somewhere with my boner are high, its not like when i wake up im thinking about stabing you, its just that at that moment im merely a sleepy thing thats attached to a staby boner
the hand down pants applebaum situation is avoidable by the guy because the hand doesnt think by itself, like the boner does, so even if the guy does not want to take advantage of you, there are risks right there of encountering a wild boner
also morning wood is different, its not like any other wood, when we have a random boner thru the day, we all can make it go away, we just think of margaret thatcher, and its gone, its something universal, we all do it, a guy in africa is climbing a tree about to get a delicious fruit from it, gets a boner, and thinks about thatcher, is universal.
Morning wood is not like that, because wanting to pee is a factor and it just wont go away until you pee, you can even think of hillary clinton, it wont go away until you pee
Read all the stories about him at http://jacobappelbaum.net/.
Overall it seems like he is pretty much an aggressive sexual partner.
A lot of women are into that. Some arent but are too weak to resist his advances then they cry about it? wtf?
that Tor is a US Government supported project, right? The DoS is a big supporter.
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Eww. Tell your five bucks they have a foul mouth and that they shouldn't put images in peoples' heads.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
If it was really as in this article , this would be something for the police, and yes german woudl extradite him for that. But it was done that way, right ? It is instead a plain accusation , libel on a web page. I am for hunting sexual predator. But I am for doing it in the justice system where everybody has its says to the court. THIS link is repugnant it is vigilantism and libel mixed. And that remind me of Matress girl.
The only "sexual misconduct" worth discussing by millions of people, most of whom have never even heard the names of the parties, is rape. And even then — only on specialized forums.
Why is this on Slashdot's "front page"? It is nothing compared to the other sad facts of life, such as, for just one example, that 78% of Of Female Birds Sexually Harassed By Strangers.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Safe rooms for developers and trigger warnings in all code and enforcement by IRC bots.
I'm completely unwilling to accept any of this at face value. This thing wreaks of bullshit!
But the accusation website that the anonymous "victims" have created is positively terrifying. They whine of their fear of being "doxed", but look at what they gleefully do to this guy. Holy shit!
Their excuses for not going to authorities are just that, (lame) excuses. All other highly questionable accusations of intimidation and harassment aside, they accuse this man of rape. If this is real, or I am to take any of it seriously, this must be reported to police and formal charges be brought. It doesn't matter that he moved to Berlin, formal charges can and should still be filed.He can absolutely be extradited on rape charges. Saying that he left the country is is fallacious whining that causes me to doubt the veracity of these faceless accusers even more.
But, to think that faceless people could put up such a website, using his own name for the domain, is deeply disturbing.
Is there any list of specific acts by Applebaum that prompted this controversy? Or is this another nerd clumsily asking women for dates, Clarence Thomas style?
Can you connect these two distant dots? (Because what you "see" is extremely different from what everyone else is seeing.) What did you find, or what did you learn from the Fed's successes, which suggests a back door?
Are you fucking stupid APK? This guy is on MOBILE.
AKA your shit hosts files does ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING.
This is why APK's stuff is untrustworthy - he can't even be bothered to read, he just spouts off with his bullshit HOSTS (which every modern operating system and most modern browsers are now actively bypassing.)
Even if it's not criminal harassment, it's so amazingly stupid!
One of my wife's co-workers basically doesn't have to work at work anymore, because she fucked the manager for a few months and then they broke up. She's got that on him now, so she can never be disciplined. Her peers are pissed because they have to do her work, but nothing can ever be done about it. Everyone's morale is total shit.
He is going to have a worthless underling until he or she changes positions (so the non-worker can be someone else's problem). Don't get me wrong: he is a True piece of shit; I'm not trying to frame him as a victim. But everyone suffers now. It's so destructive to the org.
Every day (I have been waiting for a couple years now, though) I hope my wife comes home and tells me that it finally blew up and they're both fired. But it never happens. And until it does, my wife's days will suck (because she does about 1.3 jobs) so I'm hearing about that every other night... These shitbags' liaisons years ago, are still tainting my evenings, and I don't even work there! Fuck!! The only hope is that my wife laterals out of that unit.
I am totally with you about zero tolerance for shenanigans. If I'm ever a manager (alas, I'll never be one anywhere), I will be a holy terror of unstoppable hatred, wrath and VENGEANCE if I ever hear about a manager and underling fucking. Don't, just don't!! Half of the people in whole damn world have a pussy; don't go looking for it at work!
They want your mind off the actual scandal which is.. Tor is compromised.
This post explains it all.
https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9435259&cid=52586189
Dear Slashdot editors and modedators
Please cut the crap with these SJW articles that only talk/write about gossip and unproven information.
Thank you!
Yours Truly
Anonymous Coward
.. funny how people who are working against the power elite are said to have committed sexual misconduct.
I don't believe the accusations for a second without proof.
Folks, learn the difference among "sexual harassment," "unwanted sexual contact," "sexual assault," and "rape."
"Sexual harassment" includes saying something mean to a woman, saying something unpleasant to anyone, and a woman finds out and deems it creates a "hostile workplace." For example, using the word "fuck." This is not a crime.
"Unwanted sexual contact" includes touching a woman who doesn't want to be touched. This can include a butt tap, or even putting an arm around a woman, or touching her shoulder, if she deems it to be "sexual." This is not a crime, except possibly in the US military.
"Sexual assault" is a crime, but it is defined differently in different jurisdictions. Usually it involves force, penetration with an object, etc. It can also involve groping, including breasts or genitals.
"Rape" also is defined differently in different jurisdictions. In some it involves use of the male member. In others, penetration by anything. Lack of consent results in rape. What is "lack of consent"? In some jurisdictions it means the woman being under the age of 18, no matter what she said. In some, if the woman has had any alcohol she is incapable of giving consent, and intercourse is therefore rape.
Advocates are constantly trying to confuse these different acts, and constantly trying to define the terms downward, so that any sexual assault is rape, any unwanted "sexual" contact is sexual assault, and any "sexual harassment" is sexual assault.
For all I know, the guy just looked at female employees... or maybe asked them to do some work. Thanks to SJW's I literally couldn't care any less about these things
The guy looked at and made advances towards male employees too. Does that disturb you?
Mobile phones have hosts files. I use one on my rooted droid and used adb to place a new custom hosts file on it using the debugging bridge's pull command.
See subject: Android Debugging Bridge is an example of how to put hosts on a smartphone (rooted).
Linux, MacOS X + Windows ALL have hosts files & they work on them.
HOWEVER:
Only Windows afaik "bypasses" hosts for Windows update (a good thing IF hosts is hijacked - not possible in usermode while my program is running) for ALL builds of Windows!
For "modern Windows 10" spyware (it is) firewall rules take care of the "telemetry" (I have a ruleset that does it)
OR
You can avoid the 'update patches' that install it say, on Windows 7, via a few simple registry hacks (there's automated tools that do it too).
* Due to ALL of the above? You have FAILED...
APK
P.S.=> You're stupid & untrustworthy ac troll (projecting your OWN failures beforehand unsuccessfully onto me due to YOUR LIES & TECHNICAL BLUNDERS I just corrected...)... apk
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Guess what: you normal people are the problem. Perverts' motto is "safe, sane and consensual"
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Notice I am not posting anonymously
You're kidding, right? You're hiding behind a pseudonym and not even showing your email address publicly. Jacob would have no fucking clue who the hell you are. You are no less anonymous than I am.
This whole series of events is proof that Tor is in desperate need of a back door.
We must be able to prevent the use of Tor for harassment, as it has been used against female members of the Tor project by Jacob's supporters.
Roger Dingledine knew about Jacob's behavior, that's why he was fired immediately.
Roger needs to be fired too, he's a sociopath who allowed his friend to rape women with impunity.
You are the one that's pretending that all non-convictions mean the woman was a lying bitch making it all up.
There are many reasons not just that one as you know but are pretending not to - that false stupidity to push a point must be taught in school debating or something, so much of that shit around.
For example - often when it's without doubt that a crime has been committed it's not clear who did it.
You are lumping that in with your "cry wolf" numbers.
You are getting the number for a collection of fruit and pretending they are all apples when there are mostly oranges in the mix.
This must be the Brave New World I hear so much of - the one where one procedes directly from accusation to punishment without going through pesky intervening stages like "trial" and "conviction". At lest, that is my impression. So, since the accusation has been made and trial and conviction are being bypassed I can go directly to punishing the people involved for attempting to undermine the fundamental human rights of the accused.
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