Here's the thing - the researchers are not allowed to look at it, they are only allowed to look at the outside. It reminds me of the Horvarth "water car" scam. The area around the car was roped off but a chemical engineer looking at it lay on the ground and could see a bright red hydrogen gas cylinder under the engine before he was taken away by a security guard. That wasn't enough to stop taxpayers money going into the scam.
How can anyone have a stake in it failing apart from perhaps hoping that taxpayers money doesn't get spent on it? I don't know about Erik, but I'm personally still a bit pissed off about my government putting millions towards a scam of a car running on water and a spaceport project that ended up being two people in a suburban office, neither with experience, education or connections in that field.
Tesla was a genius but got screwed over by a business guy? Really? Was he THAT gullible?!
It happens a lot today. Some dirty tricks like share dilution where you go from owning 50% of a company to 1% overnight without being informed are not obvious until it's happened. Then there's other stuff like splitting off all the assets into a new company and leaving the previous owners with nothing but debt - all at least partially reversible if you've got the cash to keep lawyers fed for a decade but it gets sprung on people who can't. Courtrooms are full of such stuff and the penalties on the people that play these tricks are very light to non-existent.
It was mainly a misunderstanding of the atmosphere that required a lot of research to correct. The ionosphere is weird enough with what we know about it today. In a world without transmission lines it would have looked like it was worth giving it a try.
Wedgewood did the same more than a century earlier as an a fully industrial example and there were plenty of examples linked to academia. Edison's company did a lot but there's no point crediting him with such a thing.
Some guy who worked for Edison invented the light bulb, hence the Steve Jobs comparison, and in many ways he was a far bigger prick than Jobs. For instance Steve Jobs did not call a press conference to publicly electrocute animals as some sort of snarky one-upmanship on a rival.
Or just seen as more useful than not, enough so that it would be political suicide to clean things up because it would be framed as "damaging America's security" by the other side in politics. It would take someone very brave in politics to do it - seen any? It's the same reason the TSA is still allowed to squeeze your balls instead of being shut down and replaced by a much smaller number of professionals.
Progress has been made. The tricky bit is we don't know how much more we've got to do to scale Teller's success down to fit into a box and behave itself.
Really? What position is that? I can't even see a position there - I'm pointing out the lack of foundation of your own which appears to just be based on mindless propaganda of weasels going for soft political targets.
So where exactly did I write about not taking precautions and not avoiding contact? I repeatedly wrote things like "A guy with gloves, mask and wheelbarrow full of food and water that unloads the contents where his neighbours can pick it up later" to directly address that. Hide and hope for someone else to help get your community running again is the instruction that you give to children. Do the best you can without making things worse is the instruction you give to adults. Simple isn't it? That's what I'm trying to get across instead of the "OMG it's the end times, get a gun so you can shoot your neighbour if they come to get your food" infantilization from the movies. That stuff is poison doing "immense harm" while "do the best you can without making things worse" is not.
If you want to get more of an idea of what I'm talking about some non-fiction about communities dealing with the Spanish Influenza pandemic or "The Plague" by Camus based on his experience of a bubonic plague outbreak in Algeria give some ideas.
If you hide you'll be hiding for a very long time, so eventually you'll be relying on people who did not hide to bring you things.
With respect - Snowden dumped the documents with journalists so "The US is just walking around with their fly down until they get Snowden home" doesn't apply. The fly is down until there's nothing left in the pile worth releasing as news whether anything happens with Snowden or not.
Does look like they need adult supervision - sentry hawk, owl, raven etc it's so fucking comic book that you wonder if they spend all their time dreaming up James Bond plot lines instead of actually getting some work down. Get rid of these toy soldiers and replace them with real ones.
Nice little insult but I've never been tested. It had been debunked by the time I went to school in the 1970s, but I suppose it stayed on as some sort of fad where you live. File it with ley lines, crystal healing and so on as a relic of stuff pretending to have meaning from the 1960s.
Yes, Hillary "get the credit card details of all those diplomats of allied nations so we can frame them" Clinton. That leak is probably 90% of why Assange and Manning are not able to go outside and why she shouldn't be trusted in a position of responsibility.
Then what on earth are they useful for other than something to boast about or a lazy HR sorting technique? The scores apparently vary greatly with the same individual - your IQ goes up an amazing amount just by doing a few IQ tests in a row.
The expense is staggering for a placebo so there's more to it than that. Somebody must really believe that shit or still be making money out of it. Wouldn't it be funny if it's a vector for corruption like the Rapiscan things were, and it's used as a prop to catch those copyright violators.
I know it's supposed to be off topic, but I'd take one look at their polygraph and wonder how much of a kickback Hoover got for deciding the FBI was going to buy such voodoo and why they are still using such useless shit. The lying doesn't seem to matter if it's at the top.
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Here's the thing - the researchers are not allowed to look at it, they are only allowed to look at the outside.
It reminds me of the Horvarth "water car" scam. The area around the car was roped off but a chemical engineer looking at it lay on the ground and could see a bright red hydrogen gas cylinder under the engine before he was taken away by a security guard. That wasn't enough to stop taxpayers money going into the scam.
The other bits you can buy "off the shelf".
How can anyone have a stake in it failing apart from perhaps hoping that taxpayers money doesn't get spent on it?
I don't know about Erik, but I'm personally still a bit pissed off about my government putting millions towards a scam of a car running on water and a spaceport project that ended up being two people in a suburban office, neither with experience, education or connections in that field.
A body spray is not going to work unless they get some of your skin in their mouth. By then you don't need it :)
It happens a lot today. Some dirty tricks like share dilution where you go from owning 50% of a company to 1% overnight without being informed are not obvious until it's happened. Then there's other stuff like splitting off all the assets into a new company and leaving the previous owners with nothing but debt - all at least partially reversible if you've got the cash to keep lawyers fed for a decade but it gets sprung on people who can't. Courtrooms are full of such stuff and the penalties on the people that play these tricks are very light to non-existent.
It was mainly a misunderstanding of the atmosphere that required a lot of research to correct. The ionosphere is weird enough with what we know about it today.
In a world without transmission lines it would have looked like it was worth giving it a try.
Wedgewood did the same more than a century earlier as an a fully industrial example and there were plenty of examples linked to academia. Edison's company did a lot but there's no point crediting him with such a thing.
Some guy who worked for Edison invented the light bulb, hence the Steve Jobs comparison, and in many ways he was a far bigger prick than Jobs. For instance Steve Jobs did not call a press conference to publicly electrocute animals as some sort of snarky one-upmanship on a rival.
Or just seen as more useful than not, enough so that it would be political suicide to clean things up because it would be framed as "damaging America's security" by the other side in politics. It would take someone very brave in politics to do it - seen any? It's the same reason the TSA is still allowed to squeeze your balls instead of being shut down and replaced by a much smaller number of professionals.
That's about 50 steps down the track. Kettle first, steam train doing 100 miles per hour later.
Progress has been made. The tricky bit is we don't know how much more we've got to do to scale Teller's success down to fit into a box and behave itself.
Thought it was CERN - at least it is when the science fiction "Steins Gate" references John Titor as part of background for the plot.
Really? What position is that? I can't even see a position there - I'm pointing out the lack of foundation of your own which appears to just be based on mindless propaganda of weasels going for soft political targets.
They is a lot more to them than an IQ test and they don't pretend to cover everything like an IQ test which is why they are useful.
Snowden isn't sitting in Russia handing out press releases. This stuff was dropped off a long time ago.
So where exactly did I write about not taking precautions and not avoiding contact? I repeatedly wrote things like "A guy with gloves, mask and wheelbarrow full of food and water that unloads the contents where his neighbours can pick it up later" to directly address that.
Hide and hope for someone else to help get your community running again is the instruction that you give to children. Do the best you can without making things worse is the instruction you give to adults. Simple isn't it? That's what I'm trying to get across instead of the "OMG it's the end times, get a gun so you can shoot your neighbour if they come to get your food" infantilization from the movies. That stuff is poison doing "immense harm" while "do the best you can without making things worse" is not.
If you want to get more of an idea of what I'm talking about some non-fiction about communities dealing with the Spanish Influenza pandemic or "The Plague" by Camus based on his experience of a bubonic plague outbreak in Algeria give some ideas.
If you hide you'll be hiding for a very long time, so eventually you'll be relying on people who did not hide to bring you things.
With respect - Snowden dumped the documents with journalists so "The US is just walking around with their fly down until they get Snowden home" doesn't apply. The fly is down until there's nothing left in the pile worth releasing as news whether anything happens with Snowden or not.
Does look like they need adult supervision - sentry hawk, owl, raven etc it's so fucking comic book that you wonder if they spend all their time dreaming up James Bond plot lines instead of actually getting some work down. Get rid of these toy soldiers and replace them with real ones.
Nice little insult but I've never been tested. It had been debunked by the time I went to school in the 1970s, but I suppose it stayed on as some sort of fad where you live. File it with ley lines, crystal healing and so on as a relic of stuff pretending to have meaning from the 1960s.
Yes, Hillary "get the credit card details of all those diplomats of allied nations so we can frame them" Clinton. That leak is probably 90% of why Assange and Manning are not able to go outside and why she shouldn't be trusted in a position of responsibility.
"exceptionally grave damage to the national security"
For fucks sake. Get rid of the toy soldiers and replace them with real ones.
Then what on earth are they useful for other than something to boast about or a lazy HR sorting technique? The scores apparently vary greatly with the same individual - your IQ goes up an amazing amount just by doing a few IQ tests in a row.
The expense is staggering for a placebo so there's more to it than that. Somebody must really believe that shit or still be making money out of it. Wouldn't it be funny if it's a vector for corruption like the Rapiscan things were, and it's used as a prop to catch those copyright violators.
They've been considered useless for sorting kids into classes in education since at least the 1970s, so still not precise enough.
I know it's supposed to be off topic, but I'd take one look at their polygraph and wonder how much of a kickback Hoover got for deciding the FBI was going to buy such voodoo and why they are still using such useless shit.
The lying doesn't seem to matter if it's at the top.