For anything resembling domestic use, it's still not gonna happen
This is industrial scale computing but it really doesn't have industrial scale power usage compared with light or heavy industry. I don't think you could even fit that number of racks into most houses so why bother wondering whether you can power it without a few 3 phase plugs:)
So, sure, if you have a huge space, and a 1950's jet engine hooked up to a generator you can trivially generate this power.
They are actually not all that big but you do need to keep people away from the exhaust and they are noisy as hell - it's amazing how many little Avon jets ended up as generators. It's something you use to do a cold start of a coal fired power station since there are so many conveyors, crushers, sootblowers etc that require electricity to run. Anyway, my point stands that you could power 130 of these things with something in use as a (large) backup generator! From the 1950s!
Mainboards etc. have gone way down in power consumption in the last years... Let's say the power difference when idle is 30W
I'm not sure that is very realistic since we are now discussing components that draw very little power in comparison to CPUs and storage. At 5V DC that's a whopping 6 amps of current remember.
Just calculate for yourself!
Based on a faulty premise it becomes nothing but pointless numerolgy:(
SSD versus spinning storage on the other hand IS going to save quite a few watts, so replacing those old 80GB or less operating system drives on some things would make a dent.
I was kicking myself that I got a long way into "American Gods" before I twigged that Low-Key Lyesmith was Loki. HBO dropped the TV series they were going to make out of it but Starz have shown some interest.
That's what we do with other people's mythology to fit in into stories, especially if there's nobody left that sees it as anything other than distant mythology. Take a look at some things that Japanese anime do with Christian motifs for another example (eg. Hellsing, Evangelion, A Certain Magical Index, Chrono Crusade). To push stories along they do things to Christian ideas that could be seen as disrepectful if it wasn't clear that those worlds have some large differences with ours.
From the posts here it looks like a lot of us are just grabbing the wrong end of the hammer - Marvel see "Thor" as the job title of whoever has the hammer and the moviegoing public like me see "Thor" as the name of a specific character born in Asgard. So I think most of the complaints are just people grabbing the wrong end of the hammer and rubbing vigorously in public - not a good look.
The entire medium is about "what if". This time it's "what if Thor was a woman - what would change?" It's no less valid in the setting than "what if Jimmy Olsen was turned into a Gorilla - again?" Whether it's readable or not and breaks other things in the setting is a different story. Some artists and writers could make it interesting.
Everyone knows that the real Thor will be back once this "arc" finishes
Just like what was done with turning Wonder Woman into a female Batman with no superpowers a while back. That was mentioned here a while back and I'll bet that's over and now a side story with zero effect on continuity.
Why not Thor as a lazy Panda! I don't really get this since I thought Thor was supposed to be a paticular person and not the job of whoever picks up the hammer, green lantern style.
However, a young female Thor type has already been done in the animes Nanoha A's and Nanoha StrikerS. Her hammer has a rocket assist.
That's why I like the SuperMicro (and I'm sure others) way of doing a dense server. With some models each machine in the shared case shares the power supply and that's it. You may need third party software to wrangle the cluster, and no deeper than the OS level but a different bit of hardware isn't going to upset anything else.
Fair enough and sorry about being rude. An anecdote, for what anecdotes are worth, is a couple of years back my Uncle had a heart attack and blacked out while driving and hit a large hardwood tree (gray gum) at more than 110km/hr in a small Peugot. His single injury was a detached retina in one eye despite the car being squashed almost into a cube, the engine passing underneath the cab (and not a scratch on the tree). In that situation death is a more likely result in something like an SUV, minivan or older car without the extensive crumple zones in some of the newer European (including European Ford+GM) or Japanese cars. In two vehicle accidents I suppose you can hope to use the other vehicle to crumple instead of getting a lot of energy expended injuring the people inside the vehicles.
Funny thing is I've heard of argon filled lamps labelled halogen but it does seem in hindsight that it could have been some sort of marketing thing - you are correct.
are filled with low pressure mercury vapor and argon, xenon, neon, or krypton
Which is technically also called halogen because that describes the type of gas inside but that label is also on very hot and bright lights that consume more power than CFL lights.
but are slow to come to full brightness as you describe
I saw that complaint about CFL lights a lot here and thought it was bullshit - then I bought a piece of shit Phillips CFL that pretended to look like a incandescant globe and found out what so many were going on about. Don't get the good looking dimmable CFLs aimed at the US market, get a cheap and nasty Chinese thing with long loops everywhere and you'll have something that seems to come to full brightness within a couple of seconds, is cheaper and puts out more light.
and if our cars were as light as European ones, our fatal crash statistics would suffer enormously
It would only work that way with collisions between cars and immovable objects such as trees or versus heavy vehicles such as 18 wheel trucks - so I really think an agenda is being pushed with little reference to reality here. I hate how so much of that shit is going on in this place now. As a long term poster you should know better.
Not every year is the same. Seven good years, seven bad - want to deny the Bible as well as science now? Not so convenient for your luddite bullshit propaganda is it? WTF is it with Christianity-Lite franchises and science denial? Haven't you people got something better to do like help out the poor like mainstream religion does?
Very amusing post. Look up how "monsoons" is used in terms of seasons and climates to see exactly why:) So much certainty from someone with zero clue - WTF are you doing here on a site that discusses technical matters where reality trumps bluster?
It's only six years old, which should put it well after the power hungry Pentium4 type "netburst" Xeons and into the more modern Xeons or AMD cores that don't consume much more power or run much slower than what is available now in multi-way systems. What more recent stuff has on this is density, which is not always a big deal. Storage has improved massively over six years but x86_64 CPUs not enough to make this a losing proposition.
Let's turn that bullshit around and inject some reality.
El Nino, La Nina, Monsoons - The 19th century called and suggested that a bit of modern science could help in that field. And it did. Scientists have been doing this for literally centuries and it has made a massive difference to the world. Unfortunately any suggestion that the world has changed since an apparently very limited God put it together one week 6000 years ago is seen as a financial threat to some merchants in temples, hence the rise of ridiculous luddite attacks like the "farmers have been doing this for literally centuries and the decades of super-computing haven't improved the averages in the "developed" countries"
It seemed to still suck immensely on the Win8.1 tablet I set up but half of that could have been the annoying animated advertising that Lenovo shipped it with. Having to fucking search just to get to windows update? It's broken windows.
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That all you've got? If you are getting paid for this shit somebody is getting very badly ripped off.
This is industrial scale computing but it really doesn't have industrial scale power usage compared with light or heavy industry. :)
I don't think you could even fit that number of racks into most houses so why bother wondering whether you can power it without a few 3 phase plugs
They are actually not all that big but you do need to keep people away from the exhaust and they are noisy as hell - it's amazing how many little Avon jets ended up as generators. It's something you use to do a cold start of a coal fired power station since there are so many conveyors, crushers, sootblowers etc that require electricity to run.
Anyway, my point stands that you could power 130 of these things with something in use as a (large) backup generator! From the 1950s!
I'm not sure that is very realistic since we are now discussing components that draw very little power in comparison to CPUs and storage. At 5V DC that's a whopping 6 amps of current remember.
Based on a faulty premise it becomes nothing but pointless numerolgy :(
SSD versus spinning storage on the other hand IS going to save quite a few watts, so replacing those old 80GB or less operating system drives on some things would make a dent.
I should have known that - thanks.
The numbers are a bit different but the "new style" is not new.
I was kicking myself that I got a long way into "American Gods" before I twigged that Low-Key Lyesmith was Loki.
HBO dropped the TV series they were going to make out of it but Starz have shown some interest.
That's what we do with other people's mythology to fit in into stories, especially if there's nobody left that sees it as anything other than distant mythology. Take a look at some things that Japanese anime do with Christian motifs for another example (eg. Hellsing, Evangelion, A Certain Magical Index, Chrono Crusade). To push stories along they do things to Christian ideas that could be seen as disrepectful if it wasn't clear that those worlds have some large differences with ours.
Far better to squeeze gently.
From the posts here it looks like a lot of us are just grabbing the wrong end of the hammer - Marvel see "Thor" as the job title of whoever has the hammer and the moviegoing public like me see "Thor" as the name of a specific character born in Asgard.
So I think most of the complaints are just people grabbing the wrong end of the hammer and rubbing vigorously in public - not a good look.
This time it's "what if Thor was a woman - what would change?"
It's no less valid in the setting than "what if Jimmy Olsen was turned into a Gorilla - again?"
Whether it's readable or not and breaks other things in the setting is a different story. Some artists and writers could make it interesting.
Just like what was done with turning Wonder Woman into a female Batman with no superpowers a while back. That was mentioned here a while back and I'll bet that's over and now a side story with zero effect on continuity.
Why not Thor as a lazy Panda!
I don't really get this since I thought Thor was supposed to be a paticular person and not the job of whoever picks up the hammer, green lantern style.
However, a young female Thor type has already been done in the animes Nanoha A's and Nanoha StrikerS. Her hammer has a rocket assist.
That's why I like the SuperMicro (and I'm sure others) way of doing a dense server. With some models each machine in the shared case shares the power supply and that's it. You may need third party software to wrangle the cluster, and no deeper than the OS level but a different bit of hardware isn't going to upset anything else.
Look at a SuperMicro catalogue from around 2008 onwards or Verari from even earlier.
Fair enough and sorry about being rude.
An anecdote, for what anecdotes are worth, is a couple of years back my Uncle had a heart attack and blacked out while driving and hit a large hardwood tree (gray gum) at more than 110km/hr in a small Peugot. His single injury was a detached retina in one eye despite the car being squashed almost into a cube, the engine passing underneath the cab (and not a scratch on the tree). In that situation death is a more likely result in something like an SUV, minivan or older car without the extensive crumple zones in some of the newer European (including European Ford+GM) or Japanese cars. In two vehicle accidents I suppose you can hope to use the other vehicle to crumple instead of getting a lot of energy expended injuring the people inside the vehicles.
Funny thing is I've heard of argon filled lamps labelled halogen but it does seem in hindsight that it could have been some sort of marketing thing - you are correct.
Which is technically also called halogen because that describes the type of gas inside but that label is also on very hot and bright lights that consume more power than CFL lights.
I saw that complaint about CFL lights a lot here and thought it was bullshit - then I bought a piece of shit Phillips CFL that pretended to look like a incandescant globe and found out what so many were going on about. Don't get the good looking dimmable CFLs aimed at the US market, get a cheap and nasty Chinese thing with long loops everywhere and you'll have something that seems to come to full brightness within a couple of seconds, is cheaper and puts out more light.
It would only work that way with collisions between cars and immovable objects such as trees or versus heavy vehicles such as 18 wheel trucks - so I really think an agenda is being pushed with little reference to reality here. I hate how so much of that shit is going on in this place now. As a long term poster you should know better.
Not every year is the same. Seven good years, seven bad - want to deny the Bible as well as science now?
Not so convenient for your luddite bullshit propaganda is it? WTF is it with Christianity-Lite franchises and science denial? Haven't you people got something better to do like help out the poor like mainstream religion does?
Working it out was the start of modern climate science.
Very amusing post. Look up how "monsoons" is used in terms of seasons and climates to see exactly why :)
So much certainty from someone with zero clue - WTF are you doing here on a site that discusses technical matters where reality trumps bluster?
Of course it has and I put three forecasting examples used since the 19th century in the subject heading.
It's only six years old, which should put it well after the power hungry Pentium4 type "netburst" Xeons and into the more modern Xeons or AMD cores that don't consume much more power or run much slower than what is available now in multi-way systems. What more recent stuff has on this is density, which is not always a big deal.
Storage has improved massively over six years but x86_64 CPUs not enough to make this a losing proposition.
A 1950s jet engine hooked up to a generator can supply 20MW - that puts that "massive" 150kW in perspective doesn't it?
Let's turn that bullshit around and inject some reality.
El Nino, La Nina, Monsoons - The 19th century called and suggested that a bit of modern science could help in that field. And it did.
Scientists have been doing this for literally centuries and it has made a massive difference to the world.
Unfortunately any suggestion that the world has changed since an apparently very limited God put it together one week 6000 years ago is seen as a financial threat to some merchants in temples, hence the rise of ridiculous luddite attacks like the "farmers have been doing this for literally centuries and the decades of super-computing haven't improved the averages in the "developed" countries"
It seemed to still suck immensely on the Win8.1 tablet I set up but half of that could have been the annoying animated advertising that Lenovo shipped it with.
Having to fucking search just to get to windows update? It's broken windows.