Re:SSL for the first hop isn't enough. (Try SMIME)
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And thats the problem. Its not built into all e-mail clients. You can't send an e-mail with smime or pgp and assume the other end can read it. We need a new RFC thats adopted by everyone who makes mail clients. (including web based)
Your one person. He meant everyone. Without following HCI guidelines, it makes it difficult for someone new to start using the program. Let me give you an example. I used to work on a coworkers computer in my spare time for a little extra money. She only liked Mozilla (and later firefox). Her husband only liked Opera 6. (literally one version) He would not switch off opera or let me upgrade it. He complained that anything other than the browser he knew was too hard. His wife just thought it was a piece of crap like IE. She was able to use IE, Netscape 4, Mozilla 1.x and Firefox without me telling her much. She just needed to know how to organize bookmarks and change her homepage. She could not use opera, but every other browser was ok. Why is that? Could it be the odd layout in opera? Yes. Now I realize that is the charm of opera for some, but the masses hate it. Its similar to Mac OS X that way. Its different enough that some fear or hate it. This could be applied to anything thats different like gnome, kde, etc. People are used to certain widgets in certain places with a certain look and feel. Unlike the web, conventional user interfaces must follow strict guidelines. (games are the exception to some degree) Even on the web there are certain conventions like RSS icons for instance.
Never used NEXTSTEP? Version 3 was the best OS I've ever used to this day. I prefer it to the modern OSX incarnations. The amount of detail has never been seen in any OS since. Open source software can be good, but its almost never polished. Gnome developers are stuck on changing their api every five minutes. I should haven't to recompile firefox because a new 2.x release comes out. gtk should be stable aside from bug fixes (binary compatible) during a 2.x release cycle of gnome. Tinker in a seperate branch like the BSDs do. KDE is a little better, but not much. Most of their problems stem from g++ changes as C++ "evolves". Obviously desktop environments aren't operating systems, but people often include them in the linux camp. Linux is just a kernel though.
10.5 will just be a stability release for apple just as 10.3 and 10.1 were. Odd numbers are the stable releases. Even Microsoft seems to go through that cycle. WFW 3.11/DOS 6.22 stable, Windows 95 not so much, Windows 98 stable, 98SE buggy on some hardware (VIA chipsets, sis, anything with amd or cyrix on top), Windows 2000 stable, Windows ME unstable, Windows XP stable. I did skip NT4 as it doesn't fit in very well. It started out as a POS and because quite usable around service pack 3.
Saying that you love OSX and insulting someone else for liking OSX heritage makes little sense. I personally figure apple's going to almost go out of business in the next 3 years. They're starting to get numbers back and this is when the fumble historically. I already see a lack of quality in a few of their products. When people realize that Apple and Microsoft share the same faults they'll just still with the 90 percent camp. I'll get ridiculed for my iBook again and that will be that.
To everyone wanting a cutting edge OS, build one! Thats what open source is for. If you like micro kernels (tantenbaum camp.. sorry if I spelled that wrong), there are several newer projects with potential. Google it. If you like linux, help improve it or add the things you think are missing from modern operating systems. Like almost every point in computing, this is an exciting time. Get involved. There are even hybrid approaches. For instance, DragonFly BSD is using message passing instead of fine grain locking in every little corner of the kernel. They are seperating code quite nicely. Its almost an in between kernel design long term (my interpretation). FreeBSD 5.x+ and MidnightBSD (plug) both use fine grain locking code. NetBSD and OpenBSD have stuck with the old school BSD design for SMP. On 2 cores they seem fast in benchmarks.
Well for me its a cheaper price. I'm happy about it. I've had more than half of the rebates I sent in rejected for one reason or another. When I buy something with a rebate I assume i'll never see it even if i mail it in. In additon to the higher tax someone pointed out, you also have the price of the stamp and the TIME to fill out the crap. As an economist how much your time is worth. You'd be surprised. Rebates are a screw.
Yes, I've got 9 systems here between me and my wife. (she's a cs person as well) Two are servers running my websites and I bought one of them from a university for 50 dollars! It was a 5 year old dell poweredge 550mhz with 2 18gb scsi disks. Its running websites and an et server for me. I've got some old suns that i bought for under 100 dollars. Even my last desktop was refurbished (1200 for a dual xeon 2.0ghz dell precision ~2 years ago)
You don't need cutting edge right now even as a gamer. My dual xeon can run quake 4 fine, doom 3 is a bit slow (no smp patch), and everything else i've tried works great. (hl2 based, source engine... fine) My mother's still using a 733mhz celeron and my father is on a p166 laptop. Its fine for their needs. Perhaps when vista comes out or a new major release of kde or gnome we'll need the power.
I've only got 2 monitors here. Most of my systems I simply ssh to or use RDC. (3 are laptops) I found it better to put unix-like systems on their own machines so that I can use them all the time instead of dual booting.
That guy with the pc133 ram hasn't bought a system in awhile. It seems like they increase the speed on the ddr and ddr2 all the time. I had to buy pc2100 for my laptop, and pc2700 for my AMD box. I would have bought a pentium D recently except i have to buy faster ram. Sure you can buy faster ram up front if its out when you make your purchase. Its not like the times when PC100 could be put in any computer over a few year period easily.
My father is gay. He came out during my freshman year of high school. His homosexuality had no ill impact on my upbrining aside from the normal pains of divorce. Actually I wish my parents never would have been married. It would have simplified things and if my father was in a steady relationship, he would have been the better parent to live with. I find the church views rediculous. I was actually ex-communicated from the missouri synod lutheran church because my dad is gay and I didn't marry a christian. They kicked my dad out first after my mother told the pastor in a counseling session!
I've met several others with gay parents. They can be great just like many straight people who raise children. I've also noticed that in many (but not all) cases, christians who are against it on moral grounds often dislike abortion. Imagine all those gay parents ready to adopt children who are shunned. Perhaps less abortions would occur if someone adopted children?
I think my father is entitled to the same rights I have as a married person. I believe in equal rights for all americans regardless of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation.
And before you disregard my post as crazy liberal talk, I'd like to point out i'm a pre-911 republican. That means I voted republican prior to 911, but not i'm not radical enough to be apart of their party. The right went extreme and the left moved closer to center.
Also, my wife doesn't want to have children so you've tried to challenge my right to marriage as well. I have a problem with that. As for gay hating, I don't know if you hate gays but you certainly don't understand them. Georgia and New York apparently hate gays.
Thats great for a lab, but I'm more concerned with the 640mb ram limit on my original iBook G4. I was able to run 10.3 on 384mb, but had to buy a memory upgrade to run photoshop. I'm a college student.. i can't afford to buy a highend macbook pro or PowerMac G5. You know your mac hasn't got enough ram when mail.app crashes constantly.
Its not like I haven't tried to upgrade my iBook. I've maxed out the ram, added an airport extreme and put in a 60gb 5400rpm disk. (52 screws suck!)
Not only does it repeat some of the copeland and OSX comments, but it also reminds me of the many Vista posts I read. Microsoft has a beta, but apple had a beta of copeland too. Apple had a big incentive to get mac users to upgrade to 10.4, but I'm wondering what could be so interesting for PPC users in 10.5. All the new features sound like they need an intel mac. Its also possible it has less new features as odd releases tend to be the stable ones. (10.0 sucked.. 10.1 was good.. 10.2 had serious problems.. 10.3 was ok.. 10.4 is buggy on lowend hardware or when you don't have enough ram)
Streamline? Apple added dashboard and spotlight in 10.4. Not to mention the other 150 new features in Tiger. As for speed, 10.4 seems faster since apple has added more acceleration using the video card, and more caching. It also uses a lot more ram. Its not always faster on older hardware, especially if you don't have the ram to handle it. Apple also changed their startup sequence for services with little dependance on rc.d startup scripts and cron anymore.
Windows XP is also around 4 years old. On newer systems its very fast. If you ever ran it on a k6-2 400 or some other outdated hardware, you'll know how much slower it is to Windows 2000 or NT4 (in some cases). XP introduced a higher level of software compatibility than Windows 2000 though. You can run more software in XP that home users have enjoyed. I ran NT4 for years at home and had trouble playing many games (except quake2 and AOE2). It only supported directx 3. Things have changed for the better on both platforms. Both still need a great deal of work.
Its possible, but I hope apple holds off a little. I'd rather have Leopard come out after vista so its the newest OS and their bootcamp or whatever replaces it will be compatible with vista.
If you look at the specs, it probably uses the core duo mac mini motherboard.
I wish apple would let you configure systems like dell does. I want a smaller display with a faster processor and video both on a desktop and laptop. 17 inches is perfect on the desktop and i like 12-13 inch laptops as they are more portable. It may sound odd but i like to be able to watch the screen when gaming. (i like FPS titles)
They deserve it for all of the above. Almost all websites use Windows Media now. If you aren't using windows (and a recent version at that), you can't see news stories on CNN or MSNBC for example. Sure some of cnn's content is in real format, but not all of it. I can't even watch some content because of browser/media player javascript checks even though i'm using Windows Media player on my mac or flip4mac. I haven't tried browsing in linux/bsd lately, but i'd image its even worse on those platforms.
Anyone running a website with content, use at least 2 formats! I should have to own a windows copy or a mac to watch a website. That means use quicktime, real, windows media or something more open yet. And no, not everyone can run flash contrary to popular belief. You effectively only get windows/mac/linux with flash. (and 2 of the 3 on x86) What about other unix like operating systems? What about other processor architectures?
I'd like to see Microsoft forced to give out an implementation of their file sharing and office formats in an OSI approved license. If its open source AND implemented we can see some real competition from the linux community and apple. (hopefully others as well)
So true. I don't think people realize that attack vectors change although concepts behind them don't very often. There are flaws with apple's design too.
1. users can install software 2. users administer their home computers 3. kids know more than their parents and install kazaa or whatever the next trend is.
When apple finally gets back serious market share, we will see more attacks against the os. In fact, some of the worst windows malware is INSTALLED by the users. There is no attack unless you consider it social engineering. No OS can protect from idiots.. it can only slow them down.
There's a reason people never agree on security through obscurity. Hell you've generalized that people believing in it don't like public disclosure. I personally feel it can deter script kiddies as their scripts occasionally look for banners, etc. There are cases it can help. Not everyone is smart enough to use a program to determine OS type, or other fingerprinting strategies.
I think these researchers just proved once again that nothing is uncrackable. The idea of security is similar to the titanic. Its unsinkable until everyone owns your box. Don't make fun of the security through obscurity camp.. even if it can be futile at least we try something. (i also patch like crazy, run firewalls, review logs, etc)
I don't mind public disclosure as long as the company gets time to patch the product (up to 30 days). Since we're talking about china, well zero day is fine.
Hell its the parents faults. I wish parents would WATCH THEIR CHILDREN ON THE INTERNET. I'm really sick of video games, websites and anything else related to computing getting blamed for parent's lack of interest in their children. There is no law that will fix this problem unless parents get jail time when their kids are abducted, assaulted, or whatever. I know that's a bit messed up, but jail time might cause them to watch their damn kids.
I'm in an Enemy Territory clan and many members are under 18. I've only seen two have their parents stop their play or even inquire about it. I find it odd that parents let their kids play games with adults. I'm not one of those psychos but they don't know that.
The hardware problem isn't microsoft's fault though. Its gateway, dell or whoever built the machine. While I've mostly bashed apple in my recent posts, there is a reason they charge 600+ for a computer. Lowend hardware doesn't hold up as well, especially when some old person buys a computer desk with a front door cover to the computer and the damn thing overheats. No one seems to think about air flow going to electronics anymore. My father has killed a computer and a receiver because he sticks them in little tight enclosed spaces.
FAT32 is not a good file system. Use NTFS if you want some stability. It is a journalized file system (well mostly) just as Mac OS 10.4, 10.3 and even 10.2.8 (if you enable it) have. You're running on an NT kernel, use it right.
If you install and uninstall software all the time you will have problems. The registry doesn't scale well because there's crap left over. Also, who knows what source you're getting the software from. I do not get viruses simply because I do not install untrusted software on my system and i don't open emails from people i don't know. I also use thunderbird so they don't auto execute or some crap. I do have antivirus software, but its not active most of the time. I use my windows box for.NET development and gaming primarily. Its under load often. I didn't buy a cheap 300 dollar system and expect perfection though. I have a dell precision workstation with a dual xeon 2ghz (precision 650). Its as reliable as my wife's powermac. I'm still running on the original motherboard unlike her mac. (well logic board on that end)
Who's throwing FUD. I didn't bring up ease of use. I'm not going to argue on that anyway. I do personally feel most mac software is easier to use.
There are documented security breaches. I've seem macs attacked as i used to be a Mac sys admin. It doesn't typically happen on a current box (latest os) but it does happen. I have looked at microsoft's patch list since i also use windows. I can tell you that apple, microsoft and redhat release updates to their software all the time. Microsoft updates less often than redhat does (or at least when i ran it). Its all the same. Apple tends to hide security patches in updates to their software. If you count those (by reading the change list), you'll note its about the same as Microsoft. I said i had 3 tiger based macs in the house so i obviously use it. (4 macs total)
If you think tiger is excellent, I feel for you. Its a POS. Its not better than XP. I hate to say that, but its not. It might be faster (not disk io) if one were to benchmark something like WoW on an intel Mac. That doesn't make it better though. I've actually reinstalled Mac OS X and Windows XP the same number of times on my two main machines. The mac is 6 months older, but all the installs have been tiger (it shipped with panther). Tiger like 10.2 does not handle upgrades well if you actually use the bsd subsystem and run anything but standard gui apps in their default config. My wife's upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4 on the same machine but she doesn't tend to do any changes to the defaults either. (aside from using fink a bit) If you run a mac network, you'll see all the problems with tiger. 10.4 server is even worse than client. Read the OSX server mailing list for a few months. Learn the dark side to your beloved apple.
Apple even lies with their ad campaigns now. There are claims of no virsues (there are at least 3 for osx), not having to remove crap when you buy one (office trial, iWorks trial, etc). And intel macs are not rediculously faster than the PowerPC systems they replaced either. (native code is fast, but rosetta is a joke)
I've been a Mac user at home since august 2000 and at work i had used os7 and os8. I've supported them. I've used them. I even used to feel like you that apple could do no wrong and their software was amazing. If you want to see amazing, try NEXTSTEP on an old pizza box style NeXT machine. There was attention to detail, and consistancy. Its not there with newer OSX releases. I won't even start in on the hardware problems some macs have. (yes dell is worse)
Thats because no one would hear of it. I attempted to post my personal experiences on slashdot at the time. No one believed me. Google's SoC list at the time was full of information on their mistakes. A bit of it hit the freebsd mailing list too i believe.
But they switched to ubuntu. I don't consider them true geeks. Almost any other linux distro would have gotten my attention. We're talking about 2 users here. If two users stop using linux do we have a slashdot story? Ok.. lets try it. I stopped using linux in 1999. Anyone care to write a story? What did i switch to? Solaris and Mac OS 9. Oh no... is that a trend? I think not.
I literally know 3 linux users, but I know 35 mac users. Who's in the minority? Ubuntu is trying to gain apple and microsoft end users. Thats their target audience. Sure some will switch to ubuntu with their weird network patches and lack of full compiler (ppc version at least) but I doubt we'll see a huge run to ubuntu. More linux users will switch distros than anything. Then when ubuntu isn't cool anymore, the next one will get all the users. This has happened to redhat and gentoo already.
That said, I have to agree that Apple's support isn't what it used to be. Worse yet, their quality of software is extremely poor. Look at the patch list lately. I've had to upgrade iTunes and Quicktime for security related issues way to often. Their windows software is extremely buggy. Mac OS 10.4.7 seems slower on 2 of the 3 macs running tiger here than 10.4.6. Apple better seriously wow me with 10.5. Its an odd release so it should be stable.
In reality, i think the open source community needs to focus on the application layer a bit more. Most open source systems have decent kernels these days. (presuming they don't screw with them often) Get some control on the linux QA process and lets start focusing on applications. You want people to switch to your platform, give them software replacements for what they use today. If I were to suggest linux to my mother today, she'd ask me the following:
1. Does it have iTunes? 2. Does it play movies? 3. Does it play my yahoo games? 4. Can i get my email? 5. Will i get another virus?
Now linux has 3 4 and 5 going for it. If I illegally use decss i can satisfy number 2. Hmm.. what to do about iTunes... (yes she uses the store)
That didn't work out. Lets try my dad: 1. Can i use aol? right off the bat...
There's two windows users who aren't switching.
How about my mother in law?
1. can i use aol? No. Well forget it.
One mac user stuck on 10.3:)
I could see my father in law switching but he's the least technical of the group. I wouldn't recommend it to him.
I always find it interesting how many on slashdot find Microsoft employees at google so great. Most of us regularly make fun of Microsoft for one thing or another. Quite a few of us love some open source operating system. Yet, we want google to hire Microsoft employees? Do we think google will get better? Perhaps this trend is part of the problem. Many end users find google to be great. THey talk about gmail like its a new thing. (i had hotmail in 1998 people... and i got rid of it for a reason) What about the summer of code nightmare from lastyear thats rearing its ugly head yet again. I'm sure google will change the requirements which automatically voids applications and doesn't pay out again even though the person made real progress. Google does harm, its just not as bad as some companies. Google is a company... accept they aren't some idealistic open source fantasy.
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And thats the problem. Its not built into all e-mail clients. You can't send an e-mail with smime or pgp and assume the other end can read it. We need a new RFC thats adopted by everyone who makes mail clients. (including web based)
Your one person. He meant everyone. Without following HCI guidelines, it makes it difficult for someone new to start using the program. Let me give you an example. I used to work on a coworkers computer in my spare time for a little extra money. She only liked Mozilla (and later firefox). Her husband only liked Opera 6. (literally one version) He would not switch off opera or let me upgrade it. He complained that anything other than the browser he knew was too hard. His wife just thought it was a piece of crap like IE. She was able to use IE, Netscape 4, Mozilla 1.x and Firefox without me telling her much. She just needed to know how to organize bookmarks and change her homepage. She could not use opera, but every other browser was ok. Why is that? Could it be the odd layout in opera? Yes. Now I realize that is the charm of opera for some, but the masses hate it. Its similar to Mac OS X that way. Its different enough that some fear or hate it. This could be applied to anything thats different like gnome, kde, etc. People are used to certain widgets in certain places with a certain look and feel. Unlike the web, conventional user interfaces must follow strict guidelines. (games are the exception to some degree) Even on the web there are certain conventions like RSS icons for instance.
Judge for yourself.
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Never used NEXTSTEP? Version 3 was the best OS I've ever used to this day. I prefer it to the modern OSX incarnations. The amount of detail has never been seen in any OS since. Open source software can be good, but its almost never polished. Gnome developers are stuck on changing their api every five minutes. I should haven't to recompile firefox because a new 2.x release comes out. gtk should be stable aside from bug fixes (binary compatible) during a 2.x release cycle of gnome. Tinker in a seperate branch like the BSDs do. KDE is a little better, but not much. Most of their problems stem from g++ changes as C++ "evolves". Obviously desktop environments aren't operating systems, but people often include them in the linux camp. Linux is just a kernel though.
10.5 will just be a stability release for apple just as 10.3 and 10.1 were. Odd numbers are the stable releases. Even Microsoft seems to go through that cycle. WFW 3.11/DOS 6.22 stable, Windows 95 not so much, Windows 98 stable, 98SE buggy on some hardware (VIA chipsets, sis, anything with amd or cyrix on top), Windows 2000 stable, Windows ME unstable, Windows XP stable. I did skip NT4 as it doesn't fit in very well. It started out as a POS and because quite usable around service pack 3.
Saying that you love OSX and insulting someone else for liking OSX heritage makes little sense. I personally figure apple's going to almost go out of business in the next 3 years. They're starting to get numbers back and this is when the fumble historically. I already see a lack of quality in a few of their products. When people realize that Apple and Microsoft share the same faults they'll just still with the 90 percent camp. I'll get ridiculed for my iBook again and that will be that.
To everyone wanting a cutting edge OS, build one! Thats what open source is for. If you like micro kernels (tantenbaum camp.. sorry if I spelled that wrong), there are several newer projects with potential. Google it. If you like linux, help improve it or add the things you think are missing from modern operating systems. Like almost every point in computing, this is an exciting time. Get involved. There are even hybrid approaches. For instance, DragonFly BSD is using message passing instead of fine grain locking in every little corner of the kernel. They are seperating code quite nicely. Its almost an in between kernel design long term (my interpretation). FreeBSD 5.x+ and MidnightBSD (plug) both use fine grain locking code. NetBSD and OpenBSD have stuck with the old school BSD design for SMP. On 2 cores they seem fast in benchmarks.
Well for me its a cheaper price. I'm happy about it. I've had more than half of the rebates I sent in rejected for one reason or another. When I buy something with a rebate I assume i'll never see it even if i mail it in. In additon to the higher tax someone pointed out, you also have the price of the stamp and the TIME to fill out the crap. As an economist how much your time is worth. You'd be surprised. Rebates are a screw.
Yes, I've got 9 systems here between me and my wife. (she's a cs person as well) Two are servers running my websites and I bought one of them from a university for 50 dollars! It was a 5 year old dell poweredge 550mhz with 2 18gb scsi disks. Its running websites and an et server for me. I've got some old suns that i bought for under 100 dollars. Even my last desktop was refurbished (1200 for a dual xeon 2.0ghz dell precision ~2 years ago)
You don't need cutting edge right now even as a gamer. My dual xeon can run quake 4 fine, doom 3 is a bit slow (no smp patch), and everything else i've tried works great. (hl2 based, source engine... fine) My mother's still using a 733mhz celeron and my father is on a p166 laptop. Its fine for their needs. Perhaps when vista comes out or a new major release of kde or gnome we'll need the power.
I've only got 2 monitors here. Most of my systems I simply ssh to or use RDC. (3 are laptops) I found it better to put unix-like systems on their own machines so that I can use them all the time instead of dual booting.
That guy with the pc133 ram hasn't bought a system in awhile. It seems like they increase the speed on the ddr and ddr2 all the time. I had to buy pc2100 for my laptop, and pc2700 for my AMD box. I would have bought a pentium D recently except i have to buy faster ram. Sure you can buy faster ram up front if its out when you make your purchase. Its not like the times when PC100 could be put in any computer over a few year period easily.
I don't get what the problem is. Are there specific instructions used often in raid 5 algorithms that are slow on the new chips? Is it bus contention?
My father is gay. He came out during my freshman year of high school. His homosexuality had no ill impact on my upbrining aside from the normal pains of divorce. Actually I wish my parents never would have been married. It would have simplified things and if my father was in a steady relationship, he would have been the better parent to live with. I find the church views rediculous. I was actually ex-communicated from the missouri synod lutheran church because my dad is gay and I didn't marry a christian. They kicked my dad out first after my mother told the pastor in a counseling session!
I've met several others with gay parents. They can be great just like many straight people who raise children. I've also noticed that in many (but not all) cases, christians who are against it on moral grounds often dislike abortion. Imagine all those gay parents ready to adopt children who are shunned. Perhaps less abortions would occur if someone adopted children?
I think my father is entitled to the same rights I have as a married person. I believe in equal rights for all americans regardless of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation.
And before you disregard my post as crazy liberal talk, I'd like to point out i'm a pre-911 republican. That means I voted republican prior to 911, but not i'm not radical enough to be apart of their party. The right went extreme and the left moved closer to center.
Also, my wife doesn't want to have children so you've tried to challenge my right to marriage as well. I have a problem with that. As for gay hating, I don't know if you hate gays but you certainly don't understand them. Georgia and New York apparently hate gays.
Thats great for a lab, but I'm more concerned with the 640mb ram limit on my original iBook G4. I was able to run 10.3 on 384mb, but had to buy a memory upgrade to run photoshop. I'm a college student.. i can't afford to buy a highend macbook pro or PowerMac G5. You know your mac hasn't got enough ram when mail.app crashes constantly.
Its not like I haven't tried to upgrade my iBook. I've maxed out the ram, added an airport extreme and put in a 60gb 5400rpm disk. (52 screws suck!)
I've read statistics in the past saying women use the internet more than men. Perhaps more men are stupid enough to click on spam?
Not only does it repeat some of the copeland and OSX comments, but it also reminds me of the many Vista posts I read. Microsoft has a beta, but apple had a beta of copeland too. Apple had a big incentive to get mac users to upgrade to 10.4, but I'm wondering what could be so interesting for PPC users in 10.5. All the new features sound like they need an intel mac. Its also possible it has less new features as odd releases tend to be the stable ones. (10.0 sucked.. 10.1 was good.. 10.2 had serious problems.. 10.3 was ok.. 10.4 is buggy on lowend hardware or when you don't have enough ram)
Streamline? Apple added dashboard and spotlight in 10.4. Not to mention the other 150 new features in Tiger. As for speed, 10.4 seems faster since apple has added more acceleration using the video card, and more caching. It also uses a lot more ram. Its not always faster on older hardware, especially if you don't have the ram to handle it. Apple also changed their startup sequence for services with little dependance on rc.d startup scripts and cron anymore.
Windows XP is also around 4 years old. On newer systems its very fast. If you ever ran it on a k6-2 400 or some other outdated hardware, you'll know how much slower it is to Windows 2000 or NT4 (in some cases). XP introduced a higher level of software compatibility than Windows 2000 though. You can run more software in XP that home users have enjoyed. I ran NT4 for years at home and had trouble playing many games (except quake2 and AOE2). It only supported directx 3. Things have changed for the better on both platforms. Both still need a great deal of work.
Its possible, but I hope apple holds off a little. I'd rather have Leopard come out after vista so its the newest OS and their bootcamp or whatever replaces it will be compatible with vista.
If you look at the specs, it probably uses the core duo mac mini motherboard.
I wish apple would let you configure systems like dell does. I want a smaller display with a faster processor and video both on a desktop and laptop. 17 inches is perfect on the desktop and i like 12-13 inch laptops as they are more portable. It may sound odd but i like to be able to watch the screen when gaming. (i like FPS titles)
They deserve it for all of the above. Almost all websites use Windows Media now. If you aren't using windows (and a recent version at that), you can't see news stories on CNN or MSNBC for example. Sure some of cnn's content is in real format, but not all of it. I can't even watch some content because of browser/media player javascript checks even though i'm using Windows Media player on my mac or flip4mac. I haven't tried browsing in linux/bsd lately, but i'd image its even worse on those platforms.
Anyone running a website with content, use at least 2 formats! I should have to own a windows copy or a mac to watch a website. That means use quicktime, real, windows media or something more open yet. And no, not everyone can run flash contrary to popular belief. You effectively only get windows/mac/linux with flash. (and 2 of the 3 on x86) What about other unix like operating systems? What about other processor architectures?
I'd like to see Microsoft forced to give out an implementation of their file sharing and office formats in an OSI approved license. If its open source AND implemented we can see some real competition from the linux community and apple. (hopefully others as well)
So true. I don't think people realize that attack vectors change although concepts behind them don't very often. There are flaws with apple's design too.
1. users can install software
2. users administer their home computers
3. kids know more than their parents and install kazaa or whatever the next trend is.
When apple finally gets back serious market share, we will see more attacks against the os. In fact, some of the worst windows malware is INSTALLED by the users. There is no attack unless you consider it social engineering. No OS can protect from idiots.. it can only slow them down.
There's a reason people never agree on security through obscurity. Hell you've generalized that people believing in it don't like public disclosure. I personally feel it can deter script kiddies as their scripts occasionally look for banners, etc. There are cases it can help. Not everyone is smart enough to use a program to determine OS type, or other fingerprinting strategies.
I think these researchers just proved once again that nothing is uncrackable. The idea of security is similar to the titanic. Its unsinkable until everyone owns your box. Don't make fun of the security through obscurity camp.. even if it can be futile at least we try something. (i also patch like crazy, run firewalls, review logs, etc)
I don't mind public disclosure as long as the company gets time to patch the product (up to 30 days). Since we're talking about china, well zero day is fine.
Hell its the parents faults. I wish parents would WATCH THEIR CHILDREN ON THE INTERNET. I'm really sick of video games, websites and anything else related to computing getting blamed for parent's lack of interest in their children. There is no law that will fix this problem unless parents get jail time when their kids are abducted, assaulted, or whatever. I know that's a bit messed up, but jail time might cause them to watch their damn kids.
I'm in an Enemy Territory clan and many members are under 18. I've only seen two have their parents stop their play or even inquire about it. I find it odd that parents let their kids play games with adults. I'm not one of those psychos but they don't know that.
The hardware problem isn't microsoft's fault though. Its gateway, dell or whoever built the machine. While I've mostly bashed apple in my recent posts, there is a reason they charge 600+ for a computer. Lowend hardware doesn't hold up as well, especially when some old person buys a computer desk with a front door cover to the computer and the damn thing overheats. No one seems to think about air flow going to electronics anymore. My father has killed a computer and a receiver because he sticks them in little tight enclosed spaces.
FAT32 is not a good file system. Use NTFS if you want some stability. It is a journalized file system (well mostly) just as Mac OS 10.4, 10.3 and even 10.2.8 (if you enable it) have. You're running on an NT kernel, use it right.
.NET development and gaming primarily. Its under load often. I didn't buy a cheap 300 dollar system and expect perfection though. I have a dell precision workstation with a dual xeon 2ghz (precision 650). Its as reliable as my wife's powermac. I'm still running on the original motherboard unlike her mac. (well logic board on that end)
If you install and uninstall software all the time you will have problems. The registry doesn't scale well because there's crap left over. Also, who knows what source you're getting the software from. I do not get viruses simply because I do not install untrusted software on my system and i don't open emails from people i don't know. I also use thunderbird so they don't auto execute or some crap. I do have antivirus software, but its not active most of the time. I use my windows box for
I'm thinking medical researchers should work on ways to speed up this process. It could change many lives.
Who's throwing FUD. I didn't bring up ease of use. I'm not going to argue on that anyway. I do personally feel most mac software is easier to use.
There are documented security breaches. I've seem macs attacked as i used to be a Mac sys admin. It doesn't typically happen on a current box (latest os) but it does happen. I have looked at microsoft's patch list since i also use windows. I can tell you that apple, microsoft and redhat release updates to their software all the time. Microsoft updates less often than redhat does (or at least when i ran it). Its all the same. Apple tends to hide security patches in updates to their software. If you count those (by reading the change list), you'll note its about the same as Microsoft. I said i had 3 tiger based macs in the house so i obviously use it. (4 macs total)
If you think tiger is excellent, I feel for you. Its a POS. Its not better than XP. I hate to say that, but its not. It might be faster (not disk io) if one were to benchmark something like WoW on an intel Mac. That doesn't make it better though. I've actually reinstalled Mac OS X and Windows XP the same number of times on my two main machines. The mac is 6 months older, but all the installs have been tiger (it shipped with panther). Tiger like 10.2 does not handle upgrades well if you actually use the bsd subsystem and run anything but standard gui apps in their default config. My wife's upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4 on the same machine but she doesn't tend to do any changes to the defaults either. (aside from using fink a bit) If you run a mac network, you'll see all the problems with tiger. 10.4 server is even worse than client. Read the OSX server mailing list for a few months. Learn the dark side to your beloved apple.
Apple even lies with their ad campaigns now. There are claims of no virsues (there are at least 3 for osx), not having to remove crap when you buy one (office trial, iWorks trial, etc). And intel macs are not rediculously faster than the PowerPC systems they replaced either. (native code is fast, but rosetta is a joke)
I've been a Mac user at home since august 2000 and at work i had used os7 and os8. I've supported them. I've used them. I even used to feel like you that apple could do no wrong and their software was amazing. If you want to see amazing, try NEXTSTEP on an old pizza box style NeXT machine. There was attention to detail, and consistancy. Its not there with newer OSX releases. I won't even start in on the hardware problems some macs have. (yes dell is worse)
Thats because no one would hear of it. I attempted to post my personal experiences on slashdot at the time. No one believed me. Google's SoC list at the time was full of information on their mistakes. A bit of it hit the freebsd mailing list too i believe.
But they switched to ubuntu. I don't consider them true geeks. Almost any other linux distro would have gotten my attention. We're talking about 2 users here. If two users stop using linux do we have a slashdot story? Ok.. lets try it. I stopped using linux in 1999. Anyone care to write a story? What did i switch to? Solaris and Mac OS 9. Oh no... is that a trend? I think not.
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I literally know 3 linux users, but I know 35 mac users. Who's in the minority? Ubuntu is trying to gain apple and microsoft end users. Thats their target audience. Sure some will switch to ubuntu with their weird network patches and lack of full compiler (ppc version at least) but I doubt we'll see a huge run to ubuntu. More linux users will switch distros than anything. Then when ubuntu isn't cool anymore, the next one will get all the users. This has happened to redhat and gentoo already.
That said, I have to agree that Apple's support isn't what it used to be. Worse yet, their quality of software is extremely poor. Look at the patch list lately. I've had to upgrade iTunes and Quicktime for security related issues way to often. Their windows software is extremely buggy. Mac OS 10.4.7 seems slower on 2 of the 3 macs running tiger here than 10.4.6. Apple better seriously wow me with 10.5. Its an odd release so it should be stable.
In reality, i think the open source community needs to focus on the application layer a bit more. Most open source systems have decent kernels these days. (presuming they don't screw with them often) Get some control on the linux QA process and lets start focusing on applications. You want people to switch to your platform, give them software replacements for what they use today. If I were to suggest linux to my mother today, she'd ask me the following:
1. Does it have iTunes?
2. Does it play movies?
3. Does it play my yahoo games?
4. Can i get my email?
5. Will i get another virus?
Now linux has 3 4 and 5 going for it. If I illegally use decss i can satisfy number 2. Hmm.. what to do about iTunes... (yes she uses the store)
That didn't work out. Lets try my dad:
1. Can i use aol? right off the bat...
There's two windows users who aren't switching.
How about my mother in law?
1. can i use aol? No. Well forget it.
One mac user stuck on 10.3
I could see my father in law switching but he's the least technical of the group. I wouldn't recommend it to him.
I always find it interesting how many on slashdot find Microsoft employees at google so great. Most of us regularly make fun of Microsoft for one thing or another. Quite a few of us love some open source operating system. Yet, we want google to hire Microsoft employees? Do we think google will get better? Perhaps this trend is part of the problem. Many end users find google to be great. THey talk about gmail like its a new thing. (i had hotmail in 1998 people... and i got rid of it for a reason) What about the summer of code nightmare from lastyear thats rearing its ugly head yet again. I'm sure google will change the requirements which automatically voids applications and doesn't pay out again even though the person made real progress. Google does harm, its just not as bad as some companies. Google is a company... accept they aren't some idealistic open source fantasy.