Suppose it depends on the audience that the software is aimed at. I haven't used CS3 yet but if what you said is true, that's a bad move by Adobe. It's excusable for a package like gcc but certainly not for an application made for people who want to make images, not become intimate with their OS. SAP from what I've seen is probably the best example of the "to hell with the UI, look how many transactions per second this baby can handle" mentality.
The typical user is afraid to change from IE6 to IE7, or from Word 2003 to Word 2007. Any change freaks them out.
I find it's almost the opposite. Users don't upgrade because they can't see a reason to do so as long as things keep working. When they finally do upgrade (sometimes by accident when they use an auto-update tool), they're horribly unprepared and end up with a nightmarish mix of modern software and ancient bits.
Yeah, the installer experience has come a long way and that's arguably one of the greatest advances in Linux. I wonder how many people were put off over the years when they inserted a disk and were thrust in to pdisk or similar? I just installed OpenBSD and love the system but its installation process reminded me of the old days of Linux. Probably not a serious issue though since OpenBSD isn't exactly aimed at the desktop crowd.
I think the message he's trying to get across is that future software won't be a success unless it's easy to use, despite the amount of functionality that the developers cram in to it. I think that is going to be true for the majority of users.
You're right though. Usability and simplicity should be considered features, not just something that you get if things go well.
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Strider44, that comment was long overdue and helps remove some of the confusion seen in earlier posts.
I hack around with code from various sources and licences, and the most common factor in them is that they restrict distribution. The closest I've seen to restrictions would be authors asking that I add my contact information to the modified product so they don't get bombarded by people complaining about the errors I introduced (in a web application for example).
an ad hominem and an appeal to authority in one post. Pretty good going.
Moore's films may be describable as documentaries but his creative editing and downright dishonesty just harm his cause. I've seen Farenheit 911 and found it entertaining in parts, sometimes thought-provoking, but certainly not convincing.
Michael Moore does half-decent satire but he's about the limit of his ability.
Unfortunately quite a bit of the site is waiting to be translated but it's a decent initiative. I like the following advice.
"Every time you send a message, check that the email addresses contained in the recipient's field and cc can be clearly transmitted. If you want to send a copy to certain recipients, choose the field bcc or cci . Ensure you do not use the tool "forward to a friend" presented in some sites allowing giving an email to a third party without his consent."
I've been able to stop most people from doing it but it's still a pain when I receive another 'funny' email and notice that my work address is just one of dozens of addresses CC'ed. Now we just need email clients to use BCC as the default rather than CC.
True, I emigrated to the moon and found few restrictions in place. I didn't even to show my passport. Finding work and oxygen has been a bit tricky but I'm optimistic.
U.S. immigration are a total pain in the arse, I've seen that when friends have tried to get in to the US - even married couples where one of them is US citizen. Even if the rules technically allow immigration, the implementation can be very patchy. I know at least 2 people who have waited almost a year now to get permission to work in Ireland - one of them a US citizen (a professional worker with decent savings and impeccable work/security history) married to an EU citizen.
An American friend tried recently to come and work in Europe and despite being married, the process too so long that it was no longer financially viable to wait any longer. That's not just US citizens but pretty much anyone who isn't an EU citizen is going to have a miserable time getting residency.
Some other European countries might be more lax but not from what I've seen. I've looked at Ireland, UK and Denmark.
Depends on whether the right people like or dislike you as well. Politically motivated decisions are rife in some companies, particularly when it comes to promotions and dismissals. It's less common in Europe since employee protection tends to be a bit better, i.e. if you boss fires you without good reason then it's going to cost the company a lot of money and that's difficult to cover-up.
Depends on the game. If you have invested a lot of time in a particular character, particularly at end-game level, it's a good idea to maintain a decent reputation. It's true though that there is normally nothing to stop a player acting like a total arse and then creating a new character with a clean slate.
I expect that when you're asked to define a 'normal person', it will bear more than a passing resemblance to you. My definition of a normal person tends to be a bit like me. What you described isn't the normal reaction, it's how you'd respond.
He despises Microsoft so he's going to yank their chain a bit. I hate my local cable company so when they kept sending me postage paid envelopes inviting me to join them, despite me asking them repeatedly to stop doing it, I'll post them whatever I happen to have lying around in my kitchen. Used tea bags, ham, bread - anything that's lying around. They stopped sending their envelopes.
The point is, Microsoft trying to hire him would be like the police trying to hire Charles Manson without being aware of his history. Whether Eric would be a decent engineer to have on their project is debatable but his very well publicised political views certainly make him a bad choice.
Unfortunately I don't get to shoot very often since I'm in Europe but as soon as I can get over to the US, I will almost certainly become a gun nut. Not so sure about the self-importance. I know an ad hominem when I see one.
Yep, but an alternative to this measure would require Reid to actually think. I'm surprised he went for the sophisticated fingerprint idea. I'd have guessed that he'd suggest that all portable devices come equipped with a 30 kilo weigh and the owner's name branded on the front of it.
You've described how things would work in an idea world. I'm assuming that you've never sat in a meeting with executives and asked yourself how on earth they could think this will work? obviously most decisions must be good or at least harmless in order for the company to stay in business. Some bad decisions will creep through though - even when you have a massive legal team. Hoover's Free Flights Promotion being a classic example. That cost Hoover around £40-50 million.
Shareholders might sue if they see a decision that affects the value their investment. You have to then look at who the shareholders are. Individuals are the ones likely to crowd-in to the street or turn up at the AGM dressed as batman, but the larger institutions are playing the long-game here. They'll have to decide whether it's better to avoid high-profile legal action that risks depressing their investment even further.
The problem here is the message that is sent out everytime a company signs up. Companies considering Linux see that a large corporation has paid Microsoft so they wonder themselves whether Linux is going to be risky unless they also pay Microsoft. It's a bloody sneaky tactic, akin to the local butcher spreading false rumours that his rival up the road has sex with the meat before he sells it. Despite no evidence, some people are going to avoid the alleged 'spermy-sausages' just to be on the safe side.
The EU has one major advantage of the US. If the US decides that you're no longer its friend, it's quick to act against you. The EU though will take years to decide what to do and by then, most people have probably forgotten why we were arguing in the first place.
It's like trying to get the UN to decided on what to have for lunch.
You're right that the EU can't criticise Turkey without feeling a bit uncomfortable. It's incredible that it's actually illegal to deny the holocaust in some EU member states.
France's law that makes it illegal to deny the Armenian holocaust is just as pointless and oppressive as this law being proposed in Turkey.
Yep, I tend to agree that chimps aren't human and therefore shouldn't be treated exactly like humans. They do deserve better treatment though.
Based on PeTA logic, I think that chimps with human rights will no longer be considered animals. Because of this, PeTA will begin providing funding to lunatics who want to firebomb chimps for being sell-outs.
PeTA exists for two reasons.
1)To provide an alternative to fundamentalist Islam for people who don't believe in Allah but still want to enjoy the hypocrisy and violence.
2)As an excuse for celebrities to revive their careers by posing naked in publicity campaigns - i.e the "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" things they run. This reason isn't half bad actually.
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Suppose it depends on the audience that the software is aimed at. I haven't used CS3 yet but if what you said is true, that's a bad move by Adobe. It's excusable for a package like gcc but certainly not for an application made for people who want to make images, not become intimate with their OS. SAP from what I've seen is probably the best example of the "to hell with the UI, look how many transactions per second this baby can handle" mentality.
Based on my visit to that site, I can only assume that the developer studied at the Myspace College of Web Design.
The typical user is afraid to change from IE6 to IE7, or from Word 2003 to Word 2007. Any change freaks them out.
I find it's almost the opposite. Users don't upgrade because they can't see a reason to do so as long as things keep working. When they finally do upgrade (sometimes by accident when they use an auto-update tool), they're horribly unprepared and end up with a nightmarish mix of modern software and ancient bits.
Yeah, the installer experience has come a long way and that's arguably one of the greatest advances in Linux. I wonder how many people were put off over the years when they inserted a disk and were thrust in to pdisk or similar? I just installed OpenBSD and love the system but its installation process reminded me of the old days of Linux. Probably not a serious issue though since OpenBSD isn't exactly aimed at the desktop crowd.
I think the message he's trying to get across is that future software won't be a success unless it's easy to use, despite the amount of functionality that the developers cram in to it. I think that is going to be true for the majority of users.
You're right though. Usability and simplicity should be considered features, not just something that you get if things go well.
Strider44, that comment was long overdue and helps remove some of the confusion seen in earlier posts.
I hack around with code from various sources and licences, and the most common factor in them is that they restrict distribution. The closest I've seen to restrictions would be authors asking that I add my contact information to the modified product so they don't get bombarded by people complaining about the errors I introduced (in a web application for example).
an ad hominem and an appeal to authority in one post. Pretty good going.
Moore's films may be describable as documentaries but his creative editing and downright dishonesty just harm his cause. I've seen Farenheit 911 and found it entertaining in parts, sometimes thought-provoking, but certainly not convincing.
Michael Moore does half-decent satire but he's about the limit of his ability.
Unfortunately quite a bit of the site is waiting to be translated but it's a decent initiative. I like the following advice.
e commandations/usagers_de_la_messagerie_electroniqu e_et_mobile/10
"Every time you send a message, check that the email addresses contained in the recipient's field and cc can be clearly transmitted. If you want to send a copy to certain recipients, choose the field bcc or cci . Ensure you do not use the tool "forward to a friend" presented in some sites allowing giving an email to a third party without his consent."
http://www.signal-spam.fr/en/index.php/frontend/r
I've been able to stop most people from doing it but it's still a pain when I receive another 'funny' email and notice that my work address is just one of dozens of addresses CC'ed. Now we just need email clients to use BCC as the default rather than CC.
You're doing a good job of tanking the mods - you built up some nice aggro there.
True, I emigrated to the moon and found few restrictions in place. I didn't even to show my passport. Finding work and oxygen has been a bit tricky but I'm optimistic.
U.S. immigration are a total pain in the arse, I've seen that when friends have tried to get in to the US - even married couples where one of them is US citizen. Even if the rules technically allow immigration, the implementation can be very patchy. I know at least 2 people who have waited almost a year now to get permission to work in Ireland - one of them a US citizen (a professional worker with decent savings and impeccable work/security history) married to an EU citizen.
An American friend tried recently to come and work in Europe and despite being married, the process too so long that it was no longer financially viable to wait any longer. That's not just US citizens but pretty much anyone who isn't an EU citizen is going to have a miserable time getting residency.
Some other European countries might be more lax but not from what I've seen. I've looked at Ireland, UK and Denmark.
Depends on whether the right people like or dislike you as well. Politically motivated decisions are rife in some companies, particularly when it comes to promotions and dismissals. It's less common in Europe since employee protection tends to be a bit better, i.e. if you boss fires you without good reason then it's going to cost the company a lot of money and that's difficult to cover-up.
Depends on the game. If you have invested a lot of time in a particular character, particularly at end-game level, it's a good idea to maintain a decent reputation. It's true though that there is normally nothing to stop a player acting like a total arse and then creating a new character with a clean slate.
I expect that when you're asked to define a 'normal person', it will bear more than a passing resemblance to you. My definition of a normal person tends to be a bit like me. What you described isn't the normal reaction, it's how you'd respond.
He despises Microsoft so he's going to yank their chain a bit. I hate my local cable company so when they kept sending me postage paid envelopes inviting me to join them, despite me asking them repeatedly to stop doing it, I'll post them whatever I happen to have lying around in my kitchen. Used tea bags, ham, bread - anything that's lying around. They stopped sending their envelopes.
The point is, Microsoft trying to hire him would be like the police trying to hire Charles Manson without being aware of his history. Whether Eric would be a decent engineer to have on their project is debatable but his very well publicised political views certainly make him a bad choice.
Unfortunately I don't get to shoot very often since I'm in Europe but as soon as I can get over to the US, I will almost certainly become a gun nut. Not so sure about the self-importance. I know an ad hominem when I see one.
Seems like a fair response given their total lack of research.
Yep, but an alternative to this measure would require Reid to actually think. I'm surprised he went for the sophisticated fingerprint idea. I'd have guessed that he'd suggest that all portable devices come equipped with a 30 kilo weigh and the owner's name branded on the front of it.
You've described how things would work in an idea world. I'm assuming that you've never sat in a meeting with executives and asked yourself how on earth they could think this will work? obviously most decisions must be good or at least harmless in order for the company to stay in business. Some bad decisions will creep through though - even when you have a massive legal team. Hoover's Free Flights Promotion being a classic example. That cost Hoover around £40-50 million.
Shareholders might sue if they see a decision that affects the value their investment. You have to then look at who the shareholders are. Individuals are the ones likely to crowd-in to the street or turn up at the AGM dressed as batman, but the larger institutions are playing the long-game here. They'll have to decide whether it's better to avoid high-profile legal action that risks depressing their investment even further.
The problem here is the message that is sent out everytime a company signs up. Companies considering Linux see that a large corporation has paid Microsoft so they wonder themselves whether Linux is going to be risky unless they also pay Microsoft. It's a bloody sneaky tactic, akin to the local butcher spreading false rumours that his rival up the road has sex with the meat before he sells it. Despite no evidence, some people are going to avoid the alleged 'spermy-sausages' just to be on the safe side.
The EU has one major advantage of the US. If the US decides that you're no longer its friend, it's quick to act against you. The EU though will take years to decide what to do and by then, most people have probably forgotten why we were arguing in the first place.
It's like trying to get the UN to decided on what to have for lunch.
Pope Benedict, when did you join Slashdot?
You're right that the EU can't criticise Turkey without feeling a bit uncomfortable. It's incredible that it's actually illegal to deny the holocaust in some EU member states.
France's law that makes it illegal to deny the Armenian holocaust is just as pointless and oppressive as this law being proposed in Turkey.
The Coast Guard?
And being allowed to openly masturbate in public.
Just move to Germany.
I do like the nanas bit, I could get used to that.
Yeah, was kidding around but received some nice informative responses, if slightly too literal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Logic
Don't make the mistake to thing that you are so special. Your specie will not survive the test of time like the other species before you.
Opposable thumbs, superior intelligence and a hell of a lot of guns say otherwise hippy.
Yep, I tend to agree that chimps aren't human and therefore shouldn't be treated exactly like humans. They do deserve better treatment though.
Based on PeTA logic, I think that chimps with human rights will no longer be considered animals. Because of this, PeTA will begin providing funding to lunatics who want to firebomb chimps for being sell-outs.
PeTA exists for two reasons.
1)To provide an alternative to fundamentalist Islam for people who don't believe in Allah but still want to enjoy the hypocrisy and violence.
2)As an excuse for celebrities to revive their careers by posing naked in publicity campaigns - i.e the "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" things they run. This reason isn't half bad actually.