Because 2 more v20s provide a much better return than 3 Dell 1850's. I would take a few v20s any day over more Dell systems. Why buy 3 dell servers when a competitor can do the job with only 2 servers? That is like saying they should have just bought a bunch of Dell poweredge $250 servers. They could have got 40 servers that way. Why didn't they just do that? Just because you can get more systems cheaper doesn't mean you are getting the same quality/performance that you could have gotten elsewhere.
Yes, that is a great option. If I am a corporate customer I am going to be using RedHat. No one else even has a chance with corporate customers right now except RedHat. Suse is getting to the point of being a corporate os, but nowhere near that of RedHat. So, what option do I have? Are you really suggesting that I go through a cat and mouse game of switching OS every time I am not happy with the software. It should be the software companies job to make me happy. I am the consumer. I don't have time to mess with changing the OS on my thousands of servers every time linux messes up on me.
With Solaris you have a clear path of communication, and if you are a large customer you can talk directly with the programmer in charge of that specific code. With linux who knows who wrote a specific part. It could be some guy in Germany that hasn't contributed to linux in 5 years.
Actually there have been a lot of studies that show using Sun hardware with Solaris is usually cheaper in the long run than switching to comodity Intel/AMD on linux.. You have to remember that the major concerns of those using Suns high-end hardware is more on the nature of minimizing electrical cost. Have you any idea how much it cost to power/cool thousands of little AMD/Intel boxes compared to the power/cooling requirements for a few high-end Sun systems.
Why is Sun still around? Maybe it is because they are selling 10+ billion dollors worth of hardware/software/support a year. So obviously someone is buying their stuff. Sure it might not be joe average system admin, but Sun is huge in the telecommunications areana, and other areas that require near 100% uptime on their systems. Also you might note that they actually provide support for Solaris which is very important to large corporate customers. Who do you goto if you have a linux problem? Not like you can just phone up Linus and say you have issues with the kernal. That is what makes Sun stand out from Linux, and that is why corporations will not replace solaris on their high-end systems anytime soon.
Really? Do you realize how large Sun is? They sell more hardware/software in a few days than SGI sells in a whole year. Sun is still a big time player. Sure you might not be buying them for your business, but that doesn't mean they are not running a good deal of the backend infrastructure systems of the world. Just because you don't see their boxes out in the world everyday doesn't mean millions of them are not sitting in the data warehouses of the world.
The headline is somewhat misleading. SGI has not declared bankruptcy. Sure they are not looking good, but that doesn't mean they are bankruptcy. They still have 65 million in cash/investments. If anything we are going to see them layoff a good number of people or just be bought outright. Right now their market cap is around 150 million. I can see a big player buying them out for that much. Might be worth it for all the experience sgi has in its nitch fields.
Last I checked they were a search company. Oh, and Time Warner has sales of 42.45 billion a year compared to Googles 4 billion in sales. I can't wait for Googles stock to burst. Whoever is investing in this company in the $300 range is crazy. Don't complain when you lose all your money because you are a dope.
I use google because I like google. I wouldn't use microsoft even if their search engine were superior. I'm happy with what I have, and do not plan on changing for a good long while.
I'm guessing intel is not backwards compatible. I would be suprised. How are they going to make money selling all their mobos if they make them backwards compatible. That would make way too much sense.
I cannot wait until Sun comes out with its 8-way dual core opteron server. That this is going to be sweeeeeeet! Just think of 16 opterons all running in one box.
That is interesting. I goto WalMart 3-4 times a week. Have never been asked for Id. Just swipe my card and stick it back into my wallet. It is one of those superwalmarts...don't know if that makes any difference.
Yes, and we all know how the stock market always knows everything. Just like before the bubble when all the tech stocks were in the $200 range. Sun has been slow to make a comeback like most of the tech companies that did not go bust, but they still have 7 billion in the bank and things are starting to look bright once again.
The reason they won't buy Red Hat is because red hats current market cap is near 3.2 billion. Novell is around 2.8 billion. Novell has sales of 1.1 billion a year, Red Hat had sales of 280 million last year. Its a no brainer. Novell is a better deal, and they get more than just Suse in the process.
The difference is that you do not physically make a copy of the Book. It is yours and you are free to give it away/loan it to friends. If you made a photocopy of the book and gave it away then it would be illegal.
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Because 2 more v20s provide a much better return than 3 Dell 1850's. I would take a few v20s any day over more Dell systems. Why buy 3 dell servers when a competitor can do the job with only 2 servers? That is like saying they should have just bought a bunch of Dell poweredge $250 servers. They could have got 40 servers that way. Why didn't they just do that? Just because you can get more systems cheaper doesn't mean you are getting the same quality/performance that you could have gotten elsewhere.
Yes, that is a great option. If I am a corporate customer I am going to be using RedHat. No one else even has a chance with corporate customers right now except RedHat. Suse is getting to the point of being a corporate os, but nowhere near that of RedHat. So, what option do I have? Are you really suggesting that I go through a cat and mouse game of switching OS every time I am not happy with the software. It should be the software companies job to make me happy. I am the consumer. I don't have time to mess with changing the OS on my thousands of servers every time linux messes up on me. With Solaris you have a clear path of communication, and if you are a large customer you can talk directly with the programmer in charge of that specific code. With linux who knows who wrote a specific part. It could be some guy in Germany that hasn't contributed to linux in 5 years.
Actually there have been a lot of studies that show using Sun hardware with Solaris is usually cheaper in the long run than switching to comodity Intel/AMD on linux.. You have to remember that the major concerns of those using Suns high-end hardware is more on the nature of minimizing electrical cost. Have you any idea how much it cost to power/cool thousands of little AMD/Intel boxes compared to the power/cooling requirements for a few high-end Sun systems.
Why is Sun still around? Maybe it is because they are selling 10+ billion dollors worth of hardware/software/support a year. So obviously someone is buying their stuff. Sure it might not be joe average system admin, but Sun is huge in the telecommunications areana, and other areas that require near 100% uptime on their systems. Also you might note that they actually provide support for Solaris which is very important to large corporate customers. Who do you goto if you have a linux problem? Not like you can just phone up Linus and say you have issues with the kernal. That is what makes Sun stand out from Linux, and that is why corporations will not replace solaris on their high-end systems anytime soon.
Really? Do you realize how large Sun is? They sell more hardware/software in a few days than SGI sells in a whole year. Sun is still a big time player. Sure you might not be buying them for your business, but that doesn't mean they are not running a good deal of the backend infrastructure systems of the world. Just because you don't see their boxes out in the world everyday doesn't mean millions of them are not sitting in the data warehouses of the world.
The headline is somewhat misleading. SGI has not declared bankruptcy. Sure they are not looking good, but that doesn't mean they are bankruptcy. They still have 65 million in cash/investments. If anything we are going to see them layoff a good number of people or just be bought outright. Right now their market cap is around 150 million. I can see a big player buying them out for that much. Might be worth it for all the experience sgi has in its nitch fields.
Last I checked they were a search company. Oh, and Time Warner has sales of 42.45 billion a year compared to Googles 4 billion in sales. I can't wait for Googles stock to burst. Whoever is investing in this company in the $300 range is crazy. Don't complain when you lose all your money because you are a dope.
I use google because I like google. I wouldn't use microsoft even if their search engine were superior. I'm happy with what I have, and do not plan on changing for a good long while.
Sun is comming out with an 8 core sparc processor early 2006. That think is going to have some horsepower in it.
I'm guessing intel is not backwards compatible. I would be suprised. How are they going to make money selling all their mobos if they make them backwards compatible. That would make way too much sense.
I cannot wait until Sun comes out with its 8-way dual core opteron server. That this is going to be sweeeeeeet! Just think of 16 opterons all running in one box.
That is interesting. I goto WalMart 3-4 times a week. Have never been asked for Id. Just swipe my card and stick it back into my wallet. It is one of those superwalmarts...don't know if that makes any difference.
Yes, and we all know how the stock market always knows everything. Just like before the bubble when all the tech stocks were in the $200 range. Sun has been slow to make a comeback like most of the tech companies that did not go bust, but they still have 7 billion in the bank and things are starting to look bright once again.
The reason they won't buy Red Hat is because red hats current market cap is near 3.2 billion. Novell is around 2.8 billion. Novell has sales of 1.1 billion a year, Red Hat had sales of 280 million last year. Its a no brainer. Novell is a better deal, and they get more than just Suse in the process.
The difference is that you do not physically make a copy of the Book. It is yours and you are free to give it away/loan it to friends. If you made a photocopy of the book and gave it away then it would be illegal.