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Community, OSL and Sun Jump to Drupal's Rescue
Robert Douglass writes "Drupal asked for help and received a major dose of it. Sun Microsystems has stepped up and donated a Sun Fire V20z server which will be the backbone of Drupal's new server architecture at the Open Source Lab. Furthermore, over $10,000 in donations were collected in a matter of a couple days (thanks to all the people who responded to the previous /. post!), plus thousands more in pledges from groups like Apress and CivicSpaceLabs... looks like the community loves Drupal!"
Pictures of the Sun equipment. Coral Cahed to boot.
Damn I'm a nice guy!
Remind me what Drupal is again given there isn't an obvious link to a "What is Drupal?" page.
Maybe Slashcode should adopt a system that automatically links to topics that the story poster does not define.
not only is it good they got support but it's good advertisement too. I was looking for a site system like that but was unsatified with those I had found even the commercial ones.
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Does anyone have any opinions on Drupal? How does it compare to other Content Management Systems like LCMS, Rainbow, DotNetNuke, and PHPNuke.
Is Drupal going to be running Solaris, or are they going to install Linux (SPARC) instead?
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http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/0 7/10/1924256&from=rss
As you can tell from the way the drupal.org site is (not) responding, it is still being run from the old server.
Interesting?! Modded interesting!??? Funny, maybe, troll, probably, but here's what drupal is: an online, open source, content management system. You can run newspapers from it (I do), blogs (most people), or getfirefox promotional webpages. But this comment is not "interesting," it's "nonsensical" (which I also happen to find "funny").
Now sun have donated a server with dual Opteron and 4G RAM. This alone would probably have been enough to host the drupal site wiht a serious improvement in performance. But they've also purchased 3 Dell 1850s with dual Xeons and 2G RAM.
Given what was serving the site before, do they really need all this horsepower? With the unexpected server donation from Sun, could the money raised have been better spent on something other than more servers?
So, is the statement: "Drupal is the leading open-source (written in PHP) content management system and is used to power tens of thousands of websites, blogs, community sites, etc." really accurate?
Drupal's new Sun Fire V20z has suffered a meltdown due to a /.ing.
... fix the vulnerabilities in Drupal. http://www.kdedevelopers.org/ was running Drupal and was hacked into.
Good for Drupal. Glad to see that people still care about others projects.
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Oh, and I was curious what drupal was too, the slashdot link doesn't give much more info than that it's a CMS, and drupal.org is down (looks like they haven't installed the new hardware in time for slashdot).
Here's the wikipedia with link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal [wikipedia.org]
Drupal is a content management framework, content management system and blogging engine which was originally written by Dries Buytaert and is the software used to power Debian Planet [1], Terminus1525 [2], Spread Firefox [3] and Kernel Trap [4], among others. Drupal is written in PHP using strict coding standards.
Drupal is the English spelling for the Dutch word 'druppel' which means 'drop'.
Though it started as a small bulletin board system, Drupal has become much more than just a news portal, thanks to its flexible architecture. Drupal has a basic layer, or core, which supports pluggable modules that enable additional behaviors. The modules available for Drupal provide a wide assortment of features, including e-commerce systems, workflow, photo galleries, mailing list management, and CVS integration. Drupal's taxonomy/classification module is especially interesting, in that it allows any content to be classified with a flexible tagging system.
Some of the more special roles that Drupal has filled include company intranets, online classrooms, art communities and project management. Many feel that Drupal's focus on user communities is what makes it stand out from its competition.
CMSs are used by some people to make wonderful stuff used by millions... stuff that they wouldn't be able to do by themselves.
Example: several years ago I made a free info site that gets 5k unique visitors a day. Many people benefit greatly from what I've posted there (a lot of text, some useful web tools, etc.).
Back when I was making it, I had absolutely no php (or anything similar) skills and simply wouldn't have done that website. I made it because there were some CMSs. And many people benefited my work (and indirectly the work of people that made my CMS).
Now... I don't see how is a driver for some device for not so popular OS far more useful than millions of people being able to use CMS-based websites. Both things are important, let's just not be "my stuff is the only important thing"-like nazis.
OMG!
The money they recieved were from donations. Not a penny was from someone who didn't want Drupal to have that money.
"Donations like this should be going to people doing things worth being done"
This is the stupidest thing I've read in a long time... Donations are given to people/projects which the donators think are doing something worthwhile, hence the donation!
I can't think of a singel thing to better prove if something is of value than other people giving money to support the continued development.
*shakes head*
It is so simple really.
You don't think Drupal is good? -Don't donate!
If someone else think it's good and they donate, don't bitch and whine about it. Clearly they feel that Drupal is WORTH IT!!
either the new horsepower hasn't been put in place yet, or they need more money to buy better machines ;) (or optimise the software, duh)
> > Drupal is great because you can find everything there and for very low prices
> ... But this comment is not "interesting," it's "nonsensical" (which I also happen to find "funny").
Dude! It makes ferpect [sic] sense! Providing you pronounce "Drupal" as "Frugal"!
...though I love the idea that Google may need community help with funding. You know, what with being so cash-starved and all. ;-)
This is where the serious fun begins.
It so easily drops into a how much does it pay ? from it's cool, that's why I do it !. Speaking as someone who got paid a couple of thousand bucks to work on OSS, I just didn't feel like I was working for that rush anymore. The change was very shocking to me at first, then I realized WHY open source is popular - because it lets people work on what they like (want is ambigous because people might want a bounty job).
On the other hand, more hardwareBut yeah, SUN's just showing off !. Sort of like a PR stunt - but it's good for drupal , so we don't mind.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
Who is to say that Drupal, if they get a foundation together, might not use some of their newly found horsepower to support/host other projects that are getting off the ground, or need their help?
... or summer internships for a few kids ... or something useful like that.
Personally, i'd love to see them use their new stuff for the betterment of their project and a few others. Also, it'd be great to see them take the excess money and invest it in such a way that it can continually pay for their operating costs
Here's to hoping.
Go figure... Dual Opterons, 10k in donations, and a whole crapload of servers STILL don't stand up to a slashdotting... :-p
dual opterons are nice, but quad (with dual core = 8CPUs) with up to 32Gb makes for a (more) nice database server.
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It's also used by the Ourmedia site so that they can get all that creative commons stuff dynamically published out to the site.
http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/07/14/Dru
It seems that he deserves some credit for starting the ball rolling.
A nice comment in the article:
Well, to counter you, the people donating to Drupal obviously aren't that bright to begin with, since they're using a CMS. Can you trust these peoples' judgement?
Sorry, I've missed something here. Use of CMS == Not that bright? Wow. I never realised that. I've made a CMS system for my employer's customers - they range from academia to high-street retail. And here was me thinking they were bright! Thanks for tipping me off; next time I meet with a client I'll know - secretly, since they use a CMS, they're stoopid.
/sarcasm
This is where the serious fun begins.
drupal had a patch out very very fast. but you still need to upgrade to take "advantage" of it (as spreadfirefox.org and others didnt!)
-- for undocumented cisco commands, take a peek @ dotu
" Well, to counter you, the people donating to Drupal obviously aren't that bright to begin with, since they're using a CMS. Can you trust these peoples' judgement?
You can't really say that these people were completely aware of what they were doing by donating money to something so stupid.
It's like donating money to a group of people that are making free hats with holes in them, sure, they're free, but you can't be that bright to be giving the people making them money and access to a factory so they can make even more holey hats."
It's like posting as an AC while pretending you have something worthwhile to say.
Geez, someone's always going to have a problem with donating to any cause. Get over it.
I know someone probably has a problem with my "Kill a friendly Kitten" fund donations. Fuck 'em.
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MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
Drupal and other free CMS suites are often used to generate local community and charity sites. Of course we could just make them pay for a commercial package, but somehow I think the money saved by using drupal, etc maybe used more wisely
Choose your allies carefully, it is highly unlikely you will be held accountable for the actions of your enemies
n/t
feh. stuff.
No, this the Slashdot where BSD fans whine anonymously about a quite impressive and important generosity made in the FOSS scene. IIRC the proposal of PKH to work on the FreeBSD kernel after he receibed $X in donations (not sure what he worked on or for how much) was also posted here.
Which Mambo? The open source version or the corporate version by Miro?
Ben in DC
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be moved by statistics" Oscar Wilde
Measuring open source projects based on their ranking on Sourceforge only makes sense if those projects host their development files and release files through Sourceforge! Drupal doesn't.
Or disable the use of xmlrpc, which we had to do in several cases, because the modules we use are not ported over to 4.6.2 yet, and we'd lose quite a bit of the database schema by upgrading, which would eat some data we require.
In our case, an upgrade isn't possible without a dump, clean reinstall and mostly-manual reload of the data by hand. No thanks, not yet anyway. When we migrate to a new server in a few months or years, we'll consider an upgrade, but right now, losing data is unacceptable.
YMMV of course, if you use a "basic" Drupal instance.
...it's for some serious HL2 lan-partying!
What? No sinister theories as to why Sun's done this? What has /. come to when a gift from Sun is not looked upon as evil?!?!?!? Has the magnetic polarity of earth reversed? Dogs and cats, sleeping together, it's pandemonium!!!
It's really not too hard, but there is a learning curve to understanding the "Drupal" way. We did make some changes to core Drupal code, but that was more us not yet grasping the best way to make changes.
What is the best way? Customizing Drupal through the use of modules. We wrote a few new modules for locations and maps and hacked a few others for groups and users.
We spent about 3 months customizing Drupal. However, the task was made more complex because we had to integrate it with our existing JSP site and existing database.
Read the Customizing and Developing links to learn all you need to know.
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James
When would you use Drupal in favour of a Wiki? I'm trying to decide which would suit our intranet better.
How come when a project like this asks for donations they get tens of thousandths of dollars and hardware to boot, but when a project like NASA World Wind, that uses probably 100x the resources with at least 5x the user base asks for donations, we can barely make up a measly 300$ a month for the one community server. http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
We love Debian too, right?
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http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/200
I was just reading that SpreadFirefox.com was cracked. Apparently they were using Drupal.
Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
Yah, thanks for /. drupal in the first place, and /. again soon after the new server is up.
Whoever posted this story is a total cocksucker. You think it makes you cool that you know the name of some obscure project and should therefore force everyone else to go look it up, rather than explaining. The only world where this makes you look cool is whichever parent's basement you live in.
http://osuosl.org/ the host of drupal uses plone. http://plone.org/
As an aside I want to say that to combat this common perception that people have, I simply create a sf.net project and redirect everything back to my "standalone" resources on my project website. I recommend that all project managers do this or something similar. I have a listing at Freshmeat and several other sites as well.
I happen to host my downloads on SF, but even if I did not, I'd want the SF listing because it can help increase traffic, and it provides a consistent interface to those interested in other SF-hosted projects.
Sourceforge !=CVS & mailing-lists.
> Which Mambo? The open source version or
> the corporate version by Miro?
Number 5.
Just a quick questions to those who know Drupal. Does it have a wiki-extension? Can it be configures in such a way, that all users (resitered and anonymous) could edit all wiki pages (like on Wikipedia)?
Will appreciate the answer, the only Drupal wiki module I found was designed to allow wiki-formatting in "forums", "pages" and "stories".
postrational
I started using Drupal about a month ago to totally revamp my site. It's still under construction, but the bulk of the work has been adding my existing content more than anything else. I wrote a few PHP modules to add some functions I wanted that didn't already exist, and tweaked some of the existing modules to my taste, but there was nothing there a decent coder would find troublesome.
It's a bit confusing to learn at first, especially wrapping my head around how the taxonomy system works. But aside from that, it's been totally effortless, and I'd recommend it for folks who want a CMS that's more than just a WordPress-style blogging tool.
--R.J.
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I could understand if he asked "What is Linux?" or "What is PHP?" but this Drupal thing is new to me. Heck, my last project involved evaluating and deploying a content management system, and yet I've never heard of Drupal.
I have, luckily, heard of Google, though.