LOL it's the fucking government's work to provide those conditions. AND you have to pay 300k to get that education. You can't put a rocket in space, or do brain surgery, learning at the community college. This isn't about "I make $$$ more than you because I bust my ass every day laying shingles". By that measure, women that whine about low salaries in education should become prostitutes or strippers, they make a ton of cash! Vocation matters. It's not about making $$$. It's about making $$$ AND ENJOY DOING IT. It doesn't have to be a drag.
NASA is not the only organization allowed to do those advances. But if NASA is only paying one company to do it, IT'S A FUCKING GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY TO A PRIVATE COMPANY!
Oh you little trollity troll-troll. He's not asking for education. He's asking for conditions to get education. The europeans put a fucking camera on a moving asteroid and they didn't have to pay $300,000 in college for it. You're privatizing your space agency to a charismatic billionaire.
No antenna is perfect, and the GPS satellites are 35,000Km away from earth. It's very easy to interfere from a couple km away with relatively low power.
Indeed. Americans are weird types. They take pride in their "hard work", sometimes you can't believe what kind of nonsense they have to do. Really few holidays a year. NO vacations (walmart gives their new employes ZERO days of vacations, they "earn" them by working years and years there. They're forced to do weird shifts. They are all hurr durr "free market will solve it dont give me no regulations that's for communists, if you dont like your job quit!" and then they have Amazon workers on food stamps. yes, people employed full time earn a salary that doesn't cover their minimal expenses. they are EXPECTED to work overtime). weird people. And they think *that* is what makes them the world's largest economy (it's not). They think *they* have the best standard of living. Most of them have never been in another country, and they seem to think you can just "move" to Canada. weird people, indeed.
Automation doesn't destroy jobs? Did you know before the invention of the alarm clocks we had people knocking on your window to wake you up? Did you know before the invention of electric light, you had people turning on and off all street lights? Plenty of jobs have been destroyed by automation.
Your point on "short-term dislocation" is the key here. So far we've increased the demand fast enough to reconvert the lost jobs. But at some point we won't be able to. This is what I'm trying to make you understand. You need to look way forward. Not now, not in 10 years, or 20 years. 50, maybe 100 years from now will be the problem. And if population continues to grow at the rate of the last few decades, it will be a huge problem.
The thing is: UKUSA keeps the world from developing. They have done everything in their power to mess with most of the world's economies. They see Latin America and Africa mainly as a huge reserve of valuable minerals. The USA has fucked up all of latin america, keeping it poor and undeveloped (see Condor Plan or what they did in central america). The US doesn't play fair with those economies. Latin America has vastly more resources than the US, and a larger population. And yet it never develops. It's crisis after crisis. Asia, though, is growing at impressive levels.
In short: if the US wants to compete with China for world leadership, THEY NEED LATIN AMERICA. It could be a great opportunity for all of the american continent. But the US (or UK?) doesn't want that. They need us to be poor and undeveloped in order to get our minerals for cheap.
Oh we are heading for collapse in the long term. The rich will NOT give us "just enough". The rich won't give us anything. Rich people build higher walls to keep the poor outside. This is like any other failed communist state (like Venezuela right now), where you have a top 1% government ultra-rich, a 10% "well fed" military to keep the poor at bay, and the rest of the population slowly starving (venezuelans have lost several kg weight in average in the last decade). This is what we're heading for. But the unemployment won't be caused by mismanagement from corrupt government officials, but by technology itself.
More people eat at McDonald's than they eat at all fancy restaurants in the world, combined. That's the thing. There are only a few "elite" types that will be able to "afford nice things", and too many people willing to serve them. That's such a huge oversupply that will make salaries almost zero.
The industrial revolution happened because it allowed to lower costs, and this in turn made it so more people could afford things. Since now more people bought more things, there was a demand for different jobs. Now you automate the new jobs. This works only for so long. There is a point where you will have automated all work, and once this happens, people lose their job. This is a downward spiral. You don't need "human level AI", you just need to displace a big enough percentage of works to tip the system off. Once you do that, everything comes tumbling down. The 2008 financial crisis shows how fragile the system is. Some bank in the US lends too much money and people lose their work in a factory in Japan. Ethiopia, Niger, Afghanistan didn't "wisely avoid" automtion. They were devastated by wars and corruption.
But automation will eventually displace all work. Once you do that, there's no star trek-esque space exploration. It's all endgame capitalists with all the money in the world, and the rest with nothing. What we call "menial jobs" is what MOST PEOPLE in the world do, and are fine doing. The "educated, creative types" are a very rare exception. We might stand a chance in a fully automated world. But "most people" won't. They just don't have the mental ability to.
Automation doesn't "create more jobs". Automation destroys jobs. So far it's been working because goods become cheaper, and more people buy more of those goods, so you need other jobs now. But there will be a point where people won't be needed. Google showed you can have a machine instead of a whole call center. That's literally millions of jobs around the world. What are those people going to do? What other job possibilities do you have NOW that one of the most menial jobs (talking on the phone while reading off a screen) has been effectively destroyed? And more jobs get destroyed every day.
The industrial revolution is a pyramid scheme. It's worked because we haven't reached the bottom yet. But we're getting there.
And none of us is going to be safe. Not even us software developers. Once AI picks up pace, we, some of the best paid positions in the world, will become useless. Some day we will finally see a computer that you will tell it "i want a program that will do X", and the computer will do it. And from the way things look, it will probably be in our lifetime.
Now, don't take me for a luddite. I like automation. I have a robot vacuum, a dishwasher, a clothes washer. The amount of time these things save me allows me to do other things with my money. But I'm well aware that I can afford my hobbies only because I don't have to pay a person to do the things the machines do. I have two money. The maid now has zero money.
And life expectancy is high. We will have a few decades to wait before all these people die off. And once they do, what will the last-capitalist-standing do? Die. The machines will kill our species, not terminator style, not "I, Robot" style. No. They will starve all of us and that will be it.
also Paraguay where a large part of the population only speaks Guarani but no Spanish. China has hundreds of dialects and often people from different parts of the country can't communicate.
So let me get this straight: you stole territory from another country, colonized their land, and somehow you're still mad that people from the area don't want to speak the language you forced upon them? Let's do the opposite. Russia and China nuke the US down. Now your territory is divided between the two. You're a Chinese citizen now. As a law-abiding citizen I EXPECT YOU to speak chinese at all times.
Remember when people used to answer "I cannot confirm on deny that such action has taken place"? Nowadays they just flat out deny it. And then months later the truth comes up, heads roll, stock prices drop, investors buy the stock for pennies. Then people forget about it, stock prices go up, investors sell the stock, and make a lot of money. Everyone's happy. The head that rolled? Got his golden parachute. The investors? They got a lot of money. Everyone else? Don't remember a thing.
Because misty rain is still wet and makes poles slippery.
Let's get on the other side of your argument for a bit: you argue that he should just have gone up the pole and get done with it. I argue the opposite: the manager should have just waited for the rain to stop to ask the employee to climb that pole. They had 3 hours to argue. If they were in such a rush, they would have agreed to pay hazard.
Many Amazon and Walmart workers are on food stamps and get no vacation. But somehow the average american thinks he doesn't need unions. That he can stand for himself in front of a huge corporation.
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How dare they ask for more!
LOL it's the fucking government's work to provide those conditions.
AND you have to pay 300k to get that education. You can't put a rocket in space, or do brain surgery, learning at the community college. This isn't about "I make $$$ more than you because I bust my ass every day laying shingles". By that measure, women that whine about low salaries in education should become prostitutes or strippers, they make a ton of cash! Vocation matters. It's not about making $$$. It's about making $$$ AND ENJOY DOING IT. It doesn't have to be a drag.
NASA is not the only organization allowed to do those advances. But if NASA is only paying one company to do it, IT'S A FUCKING GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY TO A PRIVATE COMPANY!
the problem with this is that your average american thinks you're being serious.
Oh you little trollity troll-troll.
He's not asking for education. He's asking for conditions to get education.
The europeans put a fucking camera on a moving asteroid and they didn't have to pay $300,000 in college for it.
You're privatizing your space agency to a charismatic billionaire.
No antenna is perfect, and the GPS satellites are 35,000Km away from earth. It's very easy to interfere from a couple km away with relatively low power.
OH SHUT THE FUCK UP. A megaphone is way more than enough to get things sorted out.
SPECIAL TACTICS for that matter. SWAT is supposed to be trained for things normal cops aren't.
The problem is that, by the look of things, anyone can "arrange for loaded guns to be pointed at people". AMERICA, FUCK YEAH
Indeed. Americans are weird types. They take pride in their "hard work", sometimes you can't believe what kind of nonsense they have to do. Really few holidays a year. NO vacations (walmart gives their new employes ZERO days of vacations, they "earn" them by working years and years there. They're forced to do weird shifts. They are all hurr durr "free market will solve it dont give me no regulations that's for communists, if you dont like your job quit!" and then they have Amazon workers on food stamps. yes, people employed full time earn a salary that doesn't cover their minimal expenses. they are EXPECTED to work overtime). weird people. And they think *that* is what makes them the world's largest economy (it's not). They think *they* have the best standard of living. Most of them have never been in another country, and they seem to think you can just "move" to Canada. weird people, indeed.
Automation doesn't destroy jobs?
Did you know before the invention of the alarm clocks we had people knocking on your window to wake you up?
Did you know before the invention of electric light, you had people turning on and off all street lights?
Plenty of jobs have been destroyed by automation.
Your point on "short-term dislocation" is the key here. So far we've increased the demand fast enough to reconvert the lost jobs. But at some point we won't be able to. This is what I'm trying to make you understand. You need to look way forward. Not now, not in 10 years, or 20 years. 50, maybe 100 years from now will be the problem. And if population continues to grow at the rate of the last few decades, it will be a huge problem.
The thing is: UKUSA keeps the world from developing. They have done everything in their power to mess with most of the world's economies. They see Latin America and Africa mainly as a huge reserve of valuable minerals. The USA has fucked up all of latin america, keeping it poor and undeveloped (see Condor Plan or what they did in central america). The US doesn't play fair with those economies. Latin America has vastly more resources than the US, and a larger population. And yet it never develops. It's crisis after crisis. Asia, though, is growing at impressive levels.
In short: if the US wants to compete with China for world leadership, THEY NEED LATIN AMERICA. It could be a great opportunity for all of the american continent. But the US (or UK?) doesn't want that. They need us to be poor and undeveloped in order to get our minerals for cheap.
Oh we are heading for collapse in the long term. The rich will NOT give us "just enough". The rich won't give us anything. Rich people build higher walls to keep the poor outside.
This is like any other failed communist state (like Venezuela right now), where you have a top 1% government ultra-rich, a 10% "well fed" military to keep the poor at bay, and the rest of the population slowly starving (venezuelans have lost several kg weight in average in the last decade). This is what we're heading for. But the unemployment won't be caused by mismanagement from corrupt government officials, but by technology itself.
More people eat at McDonald's than they eat at all fancy restaurants in the world, combined.
That's the thing. There are only a few "elite" types that will be able to "afford nice things", and too many people willing to serve them. That's such a huge oversupply that will make salaries almost zero.
The industrial revolution happened because it allowed to lower costs, and this in turn made it so more people could afford things. Since now more people bought more things, there was a demand for different jobs. Now you automate the new jobs. This works only for so long. There is a point where you will have automated all work, and once this happens, people lose their job. This is a downward spiral. You don't need "human level AI", you just need to displace a big enough percentage of works to tip the system off. Once you do that, everything comes tumbling down. The 2008 financial crisis shows how fragile the system is. Some bank in the US lends too much money and people lose their work in a factory in Japan.
Ethiopia, Niger, Afghanistan didn't "wisely avoid" automtion. They were devastated by wars and corruption.
So far.
But automation will eventually displace all work. Once you do that, there's no star trek-esque space exploration. It's all endgame capitalists with all the money in the world, and the rest with nothing.
What we call "menial jobs" is what MOST PEOPLE in the world do, and are fine doing. The "educated, creative types" are a very rare exception. We might stand a chance in a fully automated world. But "most people" won't. They just don't have the mental ability to.
Automation doesn't "create more jobs". Automation destroys jobs. So far it's been working because goods become cheaper, and more people buy more of those goods, so you need other jobs now. But there will be a point where people won't be needed. Google showed you can have a machine instead of a whole call center. That's literally millions of jobs around the world. What are those people going to do? What other job possibilities do you have NOW that one of the most menial jobs (talking on the phone while reading off a screen) has been effectively destroyed? And more jobs get destroyed every day.
The industrial revolution is a pyramid scheme. It's worked because we haven't reached the bottom yet. But we're getting there.
And none of us is going to be safe. Not even us software developers. Once AI picks up pace, we, some of the best paid positions in the world, will become useless. Some day we will finally see a computer that you will tell it "i want a program that will do X", and the computer will do it. And from the way things look, it will probably be in our lifetime.
Now, don't take me for a luddite. I like automation. I have a robot vacuum, a dishwasher, a clothes washer. The amount of time these things save me allows me to do other things with my money. But I'm well aware that I can afford my hobbies only because I don't have to pay a person to do the things the machines do. I have two money. The maid now has zero money.
And life expectancy is high. We will have a few decades to wait before all these people die off. And once they do, what will the last-capitalist-standing do? Die. The machines will kill our species, not terminator style, not "I, Robot" style. No. They will starve all of us and that will be it.
yeah the part in bold letters is completely unnecesary and a waste of time. linux is still a jerk, with less curse words but still a jerk.
also Paraguay where a large part of the population only speaks Guarani but no Spanish.
China has hundreds of dialects and often people from different parts of the country can't communicate.
So let me get this straight: you stole territory from another country, colonized their land, and somehow you're still mad that people from the area don't want to speak the language you forced upon them?
Let's do the opposite. Russia and China nuke the US down. Now your territory is divided between the two. You're a Chinese citizen now. As a law-abiding citizen I EXPECT YOU to speak chinese at all times.
There are plenty of countries in the world where people "can't talk to each other".
and Red Hat contributes A LOT to open source too. If it wasn't for Red Hat there would be no "Linux" as we know it.
Remember when people used to answer "I cannot confirm on deny that such action has taken place"?
Nowadays they just flat out deny it. And then months later the truth comes up, heads roll, stock prices drop, investors buy the stock for pennies. Then people forget about it, stock prices go up, investors sell the stock, and make a lot of money.
Everyone's happy. The head that rolled? Got his golden parachute. The investors? They got a lot of money. Everyone else? Don't remember a thing.
good luck getting that on a laptop.
Because misty rain is still wet and makes poles slippery.
Let's get on the other side of your argument for a bit: you argue that he should just have gone up the pole and get done with it. I argue the opposite: the manager should have just waited for the rain to stop to ask the employee to climb that pole. They had 3 hours to argue. If they were in such a rush, they would have agreed to pay hazard.
Many Amazon and Walmart workers are on food stamps and get no vacation. But somehow the average american thinks he doesn't need unions. That he can stand for himself in front of a huge corporation.
But then they complain about the 1%.
Weird.
You mean Tox? https://tox.chat/
Clinton also said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". On record.